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Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


First off, let me refer you to this link:
 

http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/

 

OK, so here's the deal.

 

I have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.

 

I'm trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over here to figure out, excuse my language, why in the bloody hell! this isn't working.

 

Here's what I've done up to this point.

 

1. Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

 

2. Typed c: and pressed enter.

 

3. Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed enter on the NVDA folder.

 

4. Navigated to builtin.dic

 

5. Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard

 

6. Navigated to my Documents folder

 

7. Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a backup copy.

 

8. Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter to open Builtin.dic

 

9. Found the line about breaking words that end with numbers. This line, in itself was commented, but the line referenced in the link above right below it wasn't.

10. Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very beginning of the line directly after the break line. I then put a space after the number sign.

 

So, here is what my entire file looks like. Note that to seperate the file's content from the rest of the file, I have put the content between two lines of three hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are only being used as a container placeholder to show you all where the content begins and ends, so, beware.

 

---

#break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1

---

 

11. Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save as dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the save button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then got an error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an administrator.

 

12. Closed this Notepad window with the file, went to my Documents folder, found the file, editted it in Notepad to read as the following:

 

---

#break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1

---

 

Then pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as saving the file.

 

13. I then copied this file over to the c:\Program Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was already there with the newly modified version. I was asked if I wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges to complete this task, and I said OK. The file was copied over successfully.

 

14. I restarted NVDA.

 

15. I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and went to Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the Ella voice, which is fine, as she's exactly who I want to do this with.

 

15. I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I typed:

 

#LAUGH01#

 

I tried this all the way up to 05, and it did absolutely no good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1  number.

 

I tried putting a space after this line of text, no good. I even tried a carriage return, but that didn't work either. No other text was on the same line. The whole document was totally empty except for this.

 

16. I tried

 

#COUGH05#

 

I wanted to make her cough as hard as she could, so I could really really hear it in case it was suttle. That didn't work. All I heard was number cough 05 number.

 

17. I also tried with

#CRY05#

 

No good.

 

I dono what on earth I did wrong!

 

I know some voices don't have all the sounds nor exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it looks like Ella should have all the above sounds included. I should note that the syntax of how I am writing these things in Notepad on a line all by themselves is: number sign, then in all caps, the sound name, like cough, for example, c o u g h, then no space after the letter h, 05, then another number sign.

 

I've tried putting a space after the first number sign before the letter C in cough. No good. I tried putting a space after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've put a space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a space on both sides, before the C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a space before the C, after the H, and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long story short, I tried every combination under the fortunate sun!

 

I'm totally sure the voices are activated, and these voices are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5 levels of laugh, cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even have tried CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No good.

 

Have tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey, Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I also tried with Mika.

 

I'm totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work around by adding the actual number sign symbol to the temporary dictionary, and replacing with nothing more than a space character, then, setting the radio button cluster to Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got rid of it saying number, but now, all I get is

 

Cry05

 

and that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing.

 

I have some txt files of things I've written, and I really, really, really! would like to get these things working, as I think it would make reading the files really awesome, if I could get those codes to work.

 

If anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step by step what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I can revert back to if you'd like me to just start over totally fresh from before I ever started screwing with this, this way we're at ground square 1.

 

The more specific keystroke by keystroke you can be at telling me how to do this, the better. Please, be as specific as you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna need it.

 

Again, Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4 official release.

 

Thank you profusely!

 

Chris.


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

If you have downloaded Control Usage Assistant 2.4, I’d like to ask you to download it a second time due to a critical problem discovered by at least two users. Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:24 AM
To: 'nvda@groups.io' <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi,
Fixed in a revision (will hit the air soon).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for
this add-on from Joseph's labs

also pressing nvda caps lock and h does nothing any where.

On 31/01/2017 17:03, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Joseph,.


I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.



On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,



Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a
localization update with some cleanups here and there.



I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end
of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren
expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways
with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a
rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the
next level. I'm grateful for users of this add-on for giving me
suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I
learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development
through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first
original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for
controls).



For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

Kevin Cussick
 

also pressing nvda caps lock and h does nothing any where.

On 31/01/2017 17:03, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Joseph,.


I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.



On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,



Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a
localization update with some cleanups here and there.



I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of
support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren
expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with
the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising
star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next
level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions
,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot
about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this
add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original
add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).



For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi,

It’s online for me. NV Access did a server upgrade, perhaps that’s why.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi Joseph, Not sure if the mentioned site is down  I could not open it.Thanks!

 
Robert Mendoza

On 2/1/2017 1:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Don’t worry about this for now – when you click that link, it’ll ask you to download version 2.4.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi Joseph,.

 

I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.

 

 

On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi Joseph, Not sure if the mentioned site is down  I could not open it.Thanks!

Robert Mendoza
On 2/1/2017 1:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

Don’t worry about this for now – when you click that link, it’ll ask you to download version 2.4.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi Joseph,.

 

I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.

 

 

On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi,

Don’t worry about this for now – when you click that link, it’ll ask you to download version 2.4.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi Joseph,.

 

I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.

 

 

On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Joseph,.


I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.



On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs

 

Hi all,

 

Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.

 

I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).

 

For fans of this add-on, the download link is:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Accessing charts in excel sheets!

Jeffrey Shockley
 

Hello,

I think using insert F7 to access the elements list will bring it up so you can find it and read it.

I hope this helps,

Jeffrey

On 1/31/2017 7:52 AM, Mailing Lists wrote:
Hi All,


Is there a key command in NVDA to access a chart that's already on an excel sheet. The arrow keys move around the cells but not onto the chart.

Many thanks for any help or tips.




Regards

Paul.



















































***





Accessing charts in excel sheets!

Mailing Lists
 

Hi All,


Is there a key command in NVDA to access a chart that's already on an excel sheet. The arrow keys move around the cells but not onto the chart.

Many thanks for any help or tips.




Regards

Paul.



















































***


Re: Problem

Gene
 

In a laptop, the operation isn't just mechanical.  When you plug in the headphones, there is a mechanical aspect.  A circuit is completed in the jack.  But the actual switch to sending audio to the headphones is not mechanical.  I don't know if the code is in the soundcard or the driver, I doubt it is in Windows itself, makes the change once the headphones are detected.  Therefore, dirt or damage may be the problem but the problem could well be with the computer-like operation that changes from speakers to headphones. 
 
Cleaning the jack may solve the problem or it may do nothing and the problem may have nothing to do with dirt or damage.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem

If its an ordinary headphone issue, then its more likely to be muck or
damage in the socket which normally mechanically switch out the speakers on
all the laptops I have seen, in which case USB headphones might be the
answer, or a usb device that can drive ordinary  headphones.
 They normally sound better than the tiny speakers in most laptops it has to
be  said.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sakina" <sakina.gable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem


> Hello Gean and friends,
>
> Thank you all for the quick response.
>
> I am using ordinary headphones.
>
> I am sorry for for not having any knowledge of usb headphones nor the usb
> sound card, nor have no idea of the cost of either.
>
> If I do get for argument sake the sound card, will I need someone to help
> me
> there.
>
> As usb headphones sounds like I can plug them in the usb pot.
>
> Please I will very much appreciate your guidance.
>
> Thanking you always
>
> Sakina
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:20 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem
>
>
>
> When I saw the original message, I thought they were probably ordinary
> headphones.  I didn't remember the original wording but perhaps that was
> why.
>
>
>
> I don't know about what variety there is in USB headphones.  But one thing
> I
> like about the USB sound card idea is that, if the person wants to
> continue
> using the headphones currently being used, they can be used with the
> external sound card.  If they are good headphones, buying an inexpensive
> soundcard and continuing to use the good headphones might be cheaper than
> buying another good pair of USB headphones.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
>
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:40 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:48 am, Gene wrote:
>
> The kind of headphones wasn't specified.
>
> True, but when the descriptor "ordinary headphones" and phrase "still
> attached" are used together that leads to the logical conclusion that 1/8"
> jack headphones are being talked about.
>
> I figure the most likely option and then, if the user has omitted
> something,
> they'll bring it up when the responses start pouring in.  I'll be curious
> to
> see what the ultimate resolution turns out to be.
> --
> Brian
>
>    If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to
> something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you
> have a legal mind.
>
>        ~ Thomas Reed Powell
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Problem

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I bought a Creative sound card fro under 10 pounds, it as two leads, one for normal phones or an amplifier and another for a microphone. It was to replace an internal card that was crackly, and it works fine even plug and play on xpp.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem


Sakina,

* USB sound cards are small dongles that plug in to a USB port and typically have a headphone port and a microphone port for 1/8" jack connections. On Windows 8 and later most are "plug and play" devices while on Windows 7 and earlier you'll likely have to install a device driver. For examples, and to see how inexpensive they are, have a look at this webpage (and I cannot attest to its accessibility): http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20sound%20card ( http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20sound%20card )
* USB headphones are, as you suspected, just like regular headphones but instead of having an 1/8" jack it has a USB connector. These are plugged in to a USB port and behave like typical headphones. These are inexpensive as well. That being said, they're getting somewhat harder to find as wireless bluetooth headsets have become much more popular and are quite inexpensive if you're not looking for audiophile quality sound. If your computer doesn't have Bluetooth built in then you'd need to buy a USB Bluetooth Adapter (see: http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20bluetooth%20dongle ( http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20bluetooth%20dongle ) ) and these are very inexpensive.

--
*Brian*

If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

~ Thomas Reed Powell


Re: Problem

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

If its an ordinary headphone issue, then its more likely to be muck or damage in the socket which normally mechanically switch out the speakers on all the laptops I have seen, in which case USB headphones might be the answer, or a usb device that can drive ordinary headphones.
They normally sound better than the tiny speakers in most laptops it has to be said.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sakina" <sakina.gable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem


Hello Gean and friends,

Thank you all for the quick response.

I am using ordinary headphones.

I am sorry for for not having any knowledge of usb headphones nor the usb
sound card, nor have no idea of the cost of either.

If I do get for argument sake the sound card, will I need someone to help me
there.

As usb headphones sounds like I can plug them in the usb pot.

Please I will very much appreciate your guidance.

Thanking you always

Sakina





_____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem



When I saw the original message, I thought they were probably ordinary
headphones. I didn't remember the original wording but perhaps that was
why.



I don't know about what variety there is in USB headphones. But one thing I
like about the USB sound card idea is that, if the person wants to continue
using the headphones currently being used, they can be used with the
external sound card. If they are good headphones, buying an inexpensive
soundcard and continuing to use the good headphones might be cheaper than
buying another good pair of USB headphones.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel <mailto:@britechguy>

Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:40 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem



On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:48 am, Gene wrote:

The kind of headphones wasn't specified.

True, but when the descriptor "ordinary headphones" and phrase "still
attached" are used together that leads to the logical conclusion that 1/8"
jack headphones are being talked about.

I figure the most likely option and then, if the user has omitted something,
they'll bring it up when the responses start pouring in. I'll be curious to
see what the ultimate resolution turns out to be.
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Re: Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi to all, thanks for the swift response and info. This is noted.

On 1/31/2017 3:05 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
this new behaviour happened since nvda version 2016.3
its advantage is ability to cut, or deleted our desire selection, but
previously we could only copy it.
another advantage is that we can understand how many characters we selected.
but in previous versions, nvda does not say the numbers of characters
we selected.
when we press nvda+shift+up nvda says nothing selected in previous
versions, but with current change, say the numbers of selected
characters.
after your selection is finished, press nvda+f10 twice fast to copy
your selection

On 1/31/17, Jacques <lists4js@...> wrote:
This in my opinion is one of the small, yet great features of NVDA. The
change that was built into this functionality some builds ago makes it
even more handy than previously was the case. Instead of being able to
simply copy the marked text, it can also be used to highlight a portion,
which can then be deleted, cut or copied. Very handy indeed.


Jacques

On 31 Jan 2017 08:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
You need to double-press NVDA+F10 to handle the copying part of the
process.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 06:04, Robert Mendoza wrote:
hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier
in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10
is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a
notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct
combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced
or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the
way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review
the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note,
I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the
addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does
anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of
your thoughts. Thanks in advance.




--


Robert Mendoza


Re: Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

 

hi.
this new behaviour happened since nvda version 2016.3
its advantage is ability to cut, or deleted our desire selection, but
previously we could only copy it.
another advantage is that we can understand how many characters we selected.
but in previous versions, nvda does not say the numbers of characters
we selected.
when we press nvda+shift+up nvda says nothing selected in previous
versions, but with current change, say the numbers of selected
characters.
after your selection is finished, press nvda+f10 twice fast to copy
your selection

On 1/31/17, Jacques <lists4js@...> wrote:
This in my opinion is one of the small, yet great features of NVDA. The
change that was built into this functionality some builds ago makes it
even more handy than previously was the case. Instead of being able to
simply copy the marked text, it can also be used to highlight a portion,
which can then be deleted, cut or copied. Very handy indeed.


Jacques

On 31 Jan 2017 08:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
You need to double-press NVDA+F10 to handle the copying part of the
process.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 06:04, Robert Mendoza wrote:
hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier
in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10
is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a
notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct
combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced
or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the
way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review
the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note,
I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the
addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does
anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of
your thoughts. Thanks in advance.






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Re: Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

Jacob Kruger
 

Too true.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 08:40, Jacques wrote:
This in my opinion is one of the small, yet great features of NVDA. The change that was built into this functionality some builds ago makes it even more handy than previously was the case. Instead of being able to simply copy the marked text, it can also be used to highlight a portion, which can then be deleted, cut or copied. Very handy indeed.


Jacques

On 31 Jan 2017 08:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
You need to double-press NVDA+F10 to handle the copying part of the
process.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 06:04, Robert Mendoza wrote:
hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier
in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10
is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a
notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct
combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced
or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the
way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review
the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note,
I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the
addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does
anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of
your thoughts. Thanks in advance.







Re: Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

This in my opinion is one of the small, yet great features of NVDA. The change that was built into this functionality some builds ago makes it even more handy than previously was the case. Instead of being able to simply copy the marked text, it can also be used to highlight a portion, which can then be deleted, cut or copied. Very handy indeed.


Jacques

On 31 Jan 2017 08:32, Jacob Kruger wrote:
You need to double-press NVDA+F10 to handle the copying part of the
process.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 06:04, Robert Mendoza wrote:
hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier
in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10
is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a
notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct
combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced
or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the
way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review
the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note,
I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the
addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does
anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of
your thoughts. Thanks in advance.




Re: Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

Jacob Kruger
 

You need to double-press NVDA+F10 to handle the copying part of the process.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-01-31 06:04, Robert Mendoza wrote:
hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note, I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of your thoughts. Thanks in advance.


Problem with nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 for copying text

Robert Mendoza
 

hi to all,


Not sure if I'm only the one noticed this or has been raised earlier in this post that the function for the nvda plus F9 and nvda plus F10 is not behaving as it was before. I tried to copy a large text from a notepad of paragraph. Though, I I'm aware that I hit the correct combination of it. From the earlier version of nvda it was announced or heard that it was copied to clipboard. But, today that is not the way it should response. Also, when I press the nvda plus C to review the text selection the mentioned text was copied. On the other note, I'm using the latest version of nvda - 2016.4 and tried to disable the addons as well but the same scenario or result is happened. Does anyone observed this or has been experiencing this, let me know of your thoughts. Thanks in advance.


--
Robert Mendoza