Re: new member and a few questions
Yes your advice did help. However, where do I go to make the change regarding backstage? Thank you very much.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:22 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions Hi Dan, Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance. You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files". If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get: Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12. In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get: "ctrl+s File name: combo box collapsed Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed Not sure if that helps though? On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote: First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA. Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line? Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time. NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12. When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce, “copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct? Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance. This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim “God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd
-- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer
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Re: new member and a few questions
Hi there, what is the add on and where do I download it? Thanks for your guidance.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions hi dan. and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader. On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote: Hi Dan,
Welcome to the group!
Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.
You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: "ctrl+s Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12.
In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected Document.rtf "
In Notepad I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected *.txt"
Not sure if that helps though?
Regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@gmail.com> wrote:
First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.
Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?
Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.
NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.
When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,
“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?
Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.
*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim
*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd
-- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: new member and a few questions
Thanks very much Chris for your wisdom and comments.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 5:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue. Cheers Chris -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions hi dan. and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader. On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote: Hi Dan,
Welcome to the group!
Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.
You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: "ctrl+s Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12.
In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected Document.rtf "
In Notepad I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected *.txt"
Not sure if that helps though?
Regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@gmail.com> wrote:
First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.
Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?
Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.
NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.
When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,
“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?
Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.
*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim
*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd
-- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net
Thanks heaps, Gene!
Ciao,
Ollie
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Il 01/02/2017 12:00, Gene New Zealand ha scritto: Hi guys
Recently updated: The following tutorials have been added to accessibilitycentral.net
RECENTLY UPDATED: A free TV guide for New Zealand that can be used with NVDA; Audio described listings by Able.co.nz (both on the NVDA tutorials for other programs page). http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html NEW: All NVDA related pages have had a brief description and link added which will take you to the recent nvaccess In Process blog (to keep NVDA users up to date with developments)
I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.
Gene NZ
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Re: new member and a few questions
The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue.
Cheers Chris
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions hi dan. and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader. On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote: Hi Dan,
Welcome to the group!
Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.
You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: "ctrl+s Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12.
In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected Document.rtf "
In Notepad I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected *.txt"
Not sure if that helps though?
Regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@gmail.com> wrote:
First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.
Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?
Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.
NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.
When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,
“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?
Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.
*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim
*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd
-- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net
hi gene. i realy appreciate your efforts and great tutorials. your reward with God aand accept my sincere appreciation.
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NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
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Re: new member and a few questions
hi dan. and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.
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On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote: Hi Dan,
Welcome to the group!
Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.
You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: "ctrl+s Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12.
In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected Document.rtf "
In Notepad I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected *.txt"
Not sure if that helps though?
Regards
Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@gmail.com> wrote:
First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.
Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?
Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.
NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.
When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,
“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?
Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.
*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim
*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd
-- Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Ph +61 7 3149 3306 www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
-- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
Hello chris can you also email me off list as well if you get this
figured out?
thanks
Hank
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On 1/31/2017 8:40 PM, Christopher-Mark
Gilland wrote:
Nimer, if you know what's wrong
with my syntax, then please will you respond off list and let
me know? I'm desperet.
I did write Accappella about
this, and they're not responding. It's now been almost half a
week.
Chris.
Chris.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31,
2017 10:35 PM
Subject: Admin's Note: RE:
[nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly
confused!
Hello,
Please respond to Chris off-list. Chris,
you should probably also contact Acapela directly. This is
more of an issue with their synth and your syntax than with
the NVDA screen reader. No further admin intervention will
occur unless this thread gets out of hand. Also, please
endeavor to moderate your language on this list as we do
have a wide variety of members, and we are the
representatives of the great NVDA screen reader. If you have
any questions, please submit them to the owner address.
Thanks.
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
First off, let me
refer you to this link:
http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/
OK, so here's the deal.
I have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I'm trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over
here to figure out, excuse my language, why in the
bloody hell! this isn't working.
Here's what I've done up to this point.
1. Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.
2. Typed c: and pressed enter.
3. Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed
enter on the NVDA folder.
4. Navigated to builtin.dic
5. Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard
6. Navigated to my Documents folder
7. Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a
backup copy.
8. Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed
enter to open Builtin.dic
9. Found the line about breaking words that end
with numbers. This line, in itself was commented, but
the line referenced in the link above right below it
wasn't.
10. Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very
beginning of the line directly after the break line. I
then put a space after the number sign.
So, here is what my entire file looks like. Note
that to seperate the file's content from the rest of the
file, I have put the content between two lines of three
hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are only
being used as a container placeholder to show you all
where the content begins and ends, so, beware.
---
#break up words that use a capital letter to
denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully
uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
11. Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a
save as dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the
save button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then
got an error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an
administrator.
12. Closed this Notepad window with the file, went
to my Documents folder, found the file, editted it in
Notepad to read as the following:
---
#break up words that use a capital letter to
denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully
uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
Then pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as
saving the file.
13. I then copied this file over to the c:\Program
Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was
already there with the newly modified version. I was
asked if I wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges
to complete this task, and I said OK. The file was
copied over successfully.
14. I restarted NVDA.
15. I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer,
and went to Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the
Ella voice, which is fine, as she's exactly who I want
to do this with.
15. I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I
typed:
#LAUGH01#
I tried this all the way up to 05, and it did
absolutely no good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1
number.
I tried putting a space after this line of text,
no good. I even tried a carriage return, but that didn't
work either. No other text was on the same line. The
whole document was totally empty except for this.
16. I tried
#COUGH05#
I wanted to make her cough as hard as she could,
so I could really really hear it in case it was suttle.
That didn't work. All I heard was number cough 05
number.
17. I also tried with
#CRY05#
No good.
I dono what on earth I did wrong!
I know some voices don't have all the sounds nor
exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it
looks like Ella should have all the above sounds
included. I should note that the syntax of how I am
writing these things in Notepad on a line all by
themselves is: number sign, then in all caps, the sound
name, like cough, for example, c o u g h, then no space
after the letter h, 05, then another number sign.
I've tried putting a space after the first number
sign before the letter C in cough. No good. I tried
putting a space after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've
put a space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a
space on both sides, before the C, and after the 5 both.
No good. I even did a space before the C, after the H,
and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long story
short, I tried every combination under the fortunate
sun!
I'm totally sure the voices are activated, and
these voices are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5
levels of laugh, cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even
have tried CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No
good.
Have tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey,
Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I also tried
with Mika.
I'm totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work
around by adding the actual number sign symbol to the
temporary dictionary, and replacing with nothing more
than a space character, then, setting the radio button
cluster to Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got
rid of it saying number, but now, all I get is
Cry05
and that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no
aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing.
I have some txt files of things I've written, and
I really, really, really! would like to get these things
working, as I think it would make reading the files
really awesome, if I could get those codes to work.
If anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step
by step what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I
can revert back to if you'd like me to just start over
totally fresh from before I ever started screwing with
this, this way we're at ground square 1.
The more specific keystroke by keystroke you can
be at telling me how to do this, the better. Please, be
as specific as you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage
will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna
need it.
Again, Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for
NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4 official release.
Thank you profusely!
Chris.
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Re: new member and a few questions
Hi Dan,
Welcome to the group!
Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance. You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.
Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads: "ctrl+s Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected some filename.docx" Which is exactly the same if I press f12.
In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected Document.rtf "
In Notepad I get:
"ctrl+s Save As dialog File name: File name: Save as type: Save as type: File name: combo box collapsed edit Alt+n selected *.txt"
Not sure if that helps though?
Regards Quentin.
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote: First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA. Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line? Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time. NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12. When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce, “copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct? Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance. This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim “God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd
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Re: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'mutterly confused!
Right… if you have concerns about a moderator’s decision on this list or any other list for that matter, I suggest that you contact the owner address for that list. As for now though, because this topic does not actually have very much to do with NVDA, and because the issue could be better troubleshot individually with Chris, I am recommending that this thread does not continue further on this list. Again, if you wish to join me for a cup of tea to discuss this further off-list, please send a message to the owner address. I am very open to an off-list tea party. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Life My Way via Groups.IoSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 21:46 To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: Re: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'mutterly confused! from what i remember, the reperesentive for the company posted this link and the way to get this to work on the list; so i think this could be talked about on list. On 1/31/2017 9:35 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote: Hello, Please respond to Chris off-list. Chris, you should probably also contact Acapela directly. This is more of an issue with their synth and your syntax than with the NVDA screen reader. No further admin intervention will occur unless this thread gets out of hand. Also, please endeavor to moderate your language on this list as we do have a wide variety of members, and we are the representatives of the great NVDA screen reader. If you have any questions, please submit them to the owner address. Thanks. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 First off, let me refer you to this link: http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/ OK, so here's the deal. I have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit. I'm trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over here to figure out, excuse my language, why in the bloody hell! this isn't working. Here's what I've done up to this point. 1. Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog. 2. Typed c: and pressed enter. 3. Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed enter on the NVDA folder. 4. Navigated to builtin.dic 5. Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard 6. Navigated to my Documents folder 7. Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a backup copy. 8. Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter to open Builtin.dic 9. Found the line about breaking words that end with numbers. This line, in itself was commented, but the line referenced in the link above right below it wasn't. 10. Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very beginning of the line directly after the break line. I then put a space after the number sign. So, here is what my entire file looks like. Note that to seperate the file's content from the rest of the file, I have put the content between two lines of three hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are only being used as a container placeholder to show you all where the content begins and ends, so, beware. --- #break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1 --- 11. Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save as dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the save button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then got an error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an administrator. 12. Closed this Notepad window with the file, went to my Documents folder, found the file, editted it in Notepad to read as the following: --- #break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1 --- Then pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as saving the file. 13. I then copied this file over to the c:\Program Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was already there with the newly modified version. I was asked if I wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges to complete this task, and I said OK. The file was copied over successfully. 14. I restarted NVDA. 15. I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and went to Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the Ella voice, which is fine, as she's exactly who I want to do this with. 15. I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I typed: #LAUGH01# I tried this all the way up to 05, and it did absolutely no good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1 number. I tried putting a space after this line of text, no good. I even tried a carriage return, but that didn't work either. No other text was on the same line. The whole document was totally empty except for this. 16. I tried #COUGH05# I wanted to make her cough as hard as she could, so I could really really hear it in case it was suttle. That didn't work. All I heard was number cough 05 number. 17. I also tried with #CRY05# No good. I dono what on earth I did wrong! I know some voices don't have all the sounds nor exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it looks like Ella should have all the above sounds included. I should note that the syntax of how I am writing these things in Notepad on a line all by themselves is: number sign, then in all caps, the sound name, like cough, for example, c o u g h, then no space after the letter h, 05, then another number sign. I've tried putting a space after the first number sign before the letter C in cough. No good. I tried putting a space after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've put a space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a space on both sides, before the C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a space before the C, after the H, and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long story short, I tried every combination under the fortunate sun! I'm totally sure the voices are activated, and these voices are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5 levels of laugh, cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even have tried CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No good. Have tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey, Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I also tried with Mika. I'm totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work around by adding the actual number sign symbol to the temporary dictionary, and replacing with nothing more than a space character, then, setting the radio button cluster to Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got rid of it saying number, but now, all I get is Cry05 and that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing. I have some txt files of things I've written, and I really, really, really! would like to get these things working, as I think it would make reading the files really awesome, if I could get those codes to work. If anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step by step what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I can revert back to if you'd like me to just start over totally fresh from before I ever started screwing with this, this way we're at ground square 1. The more specific keystroke by keystroke you can be at telling me how to do this, the better. Please, be as specific as you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna need it. Again, Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4 official release. Thank you profusely! Chris.
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new member and a few questions
First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA. Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line? Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving file for the first time. NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12. When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce, “copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct? Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance. This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim “God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd
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Re: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
from what i remember, the reperesentive for the company posted
this link and the way to get this to work on the list; so i think
this could be talked about on list.
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On 1/31/2017 9:35 PM, Nimer Jaber
wrote:
Hello,
Please respond to Chris off-list. Chris,
you should probably also contact Acapela directly. This is
more of an issue with their synth and your syntax than with
the NVDA screen reader. No further admin intervention will
occur unless this thread gets out of hand. Also, please
endeavor to moderate your language on this list as we do have
a wide variety of members, and we are the representatives of
the great NVDA screen reader. If you have any questions,
please submit them to the owner address.
Thanks.
Sent from Mail
for Windows 10
First
off, let me refer you to this link:
http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/
OK,
so here's the deal.
I
have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I'm
trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over here to figure
out, excuse my language, why in the bloody hell! this
isn't working.
Here's
what I've done up to this point.
1.
Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.
2.
Typed c: and pressed enter.
3.
Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed enter on the
NVDA folder.
4.
Navigated to builtin.dic
5.
Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard
6.
Navigated to my Documents folder
7.
Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a backup
copy.
8.
Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter to open
Builtin.dic
9.
Found the line about breaking words that end with numbers.
This line, in itself was commented, but the line
referenced in the link above right below it wasn't.
10.
Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very beginning of
the line directly after the break line. I then put a space
after the number sign.
So,
here is what my entire file looks like. Note that to
seperate the file's content from the rest of the file, I
have put the content between two lines of three hyphens.
The hyphens are not in the file. They are only being used
as a container placeholder to show you all where the
content begins and ends, so, beware.
---
#break
up words that use a capital letter to denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully
uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
11.
Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save as
dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the save
button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then got an
error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an
administrator.
12.
Closed this Notepad window with the file, went to my
Documents folder, found the file, editted it in Notepad to
read as the following:
---
#break
up words that use a capital letter to denote another word
([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully
uppercase word
([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1
#Break words that have numbers at the end
# ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
Then
pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as saving the
file.
13.
I then copied this file over to the c:\Program Files
X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was already
there with the newly modified version. I was asked if I
wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges to complete
this task, and I said OK. The file was copied over
successfully.
14.
I restarted NVDA.
15.
I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and went to
Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the Ella voice,
which is fine, as she's exactly who I want to do this
with.
15.
I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I typed:
#LAUGH01#
I
tried this all the way up to 05, and it did absolutely no
good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1 number.
I
tried putting a space after this line of text, no good. I
even tried a carriage return, but that didn't work either.
No other text was on the same line. The whole document was
totally empty except for this.
16.
I tried
#COUGH05#
I
wanted to make her cough as hard as she could, so I could
really really hear it in case it was suttle. That didn't
work. All I heard was number cough 05 number.
17.
I also tried with
#CRY05#
No
good.
I
dono what on earth I did wrong!
I
know some voices don't have all the sounds nor
exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it
looks like Ella should have all the above sounds included.
I should note that the syntax of how I am writing these
things in Notepad on a line all by themselves is: number
sign, then in all caps, the sound name, like cough, for
example, c o u g h, then no space after the letter h, 05,
then another number sign.
I've
tried putting a space after the first number sign before
the letter C in cough. No good. I tried putting a space
after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've put a space before
the numbers 05, no good. I put a space on both sides,
before the C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a
space before the C, after the H, and after the 5 all 3. No
good. Basically, long story short, I tried every
combination under the fortunate sun!
I'm
totally sure the voices are activated, and these voices
are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5 levels of laugh,
cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even have tried CAR
REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No good.
Have
tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey, Amilio, Josh,
and I think even Heather. I also tried with Mika.
I'm
totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work around by
adding the actual number sign symbol to the temporary
dictionary, and replacing with nothing more than a space
character, then, setting the radio button cluster to
Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got rid of it
saying number, but now, all I get is
Cry05
and
that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no aaaaaaaaarg!
Nothing.
I
have some txt files of things I've written, and I really,
really, really! would like to get these things working, as
I think it would make reading the files really awesome, if
I could get those codes to work.
If
anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step by step
what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I can revert
back to if you'd like me to just start over totally fresh
from before I ever started screwing with this, this way
we're at ground square 1.
The
more specific keystroke by keystroke you can be at telling
me how to do this, the better. Please, be as specific as
you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage will not drive
me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna need it.
Again,
Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for NVDA V 1.49,
and NVDA 2016.4 official release.
Thank
you profusely!
Chris.
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Re: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Nimer, if you know what's wrong with my syntax,
then please will you respond off list and let me know? I'm
desperet.
I did write Accappella about this, and they're not
responding. It's now been almost half a week.
Chris.
Chris.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:35
PM
Subject: Admin's Note: RE: [nvda]
Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
Hello,
Please respond to Chris off-list. Chris, you should
probably also contact Acapela directly. This is more of an issue with their
synth and your syntax than with the NVDA screen reader. No further admin
intervention will occur unless this thread gets out of hand. Also, please
endeavor to moderate your language on this list as we do have a wide variety
of members, and we are the representatives of the great NVDA screen reader. If
you have any questions, please submit them to the owner address.
Thanks.
Sent from Mail for Windows
10
First off, let me
refer you to this link:
http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/
OK, so
here's the deal.
I have NVDA
2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit.
I'm trying
whilst pulling my dang hair out over here to figure out, excuse my language,
why in the bloody hell! this isn't working.
Here's what
I've done up to this point.
1. Press
Windows key+R to open the run dialog.
2. Typed c:
and pressed enter.
3. Navigated
to Program Files X86, and pressed enter on the NVDA folder.
4. Navigated
to builtin.dic
5. Pressed
CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard
6. Navigated
to my Documents folder
7. Pressed
CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a backup copy.
8. Went back
to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter to open Builtin.dic
9. Found the
line about breaking words that end with numbers. This line, in itself was
commented, but the line referenced in the link above right below it
wasn't.
10. Typed a
number sign, (#) right at the very beginning of the line directly after the
break line. I then put a space after the number sign.
So, here is
what my entire file looks like. Note that to seperate the file's content from
the rest of the file, I have put the content between two lines of three
hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are only being used as a
container placeholder to show you all where the content begins and ends, so,
beware.
---
#break up
words that use a capital letter to denote another
word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting
with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1
\2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end #
((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
11. Pressed
CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save as dialog. Left the file name alone,
tabbed to the save button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then got an
error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an administrator.
12. Closed
this Notepad window with the file, went to my Documents folder, found the
file, editted it in Notepad to read as the following:
---
#break up
words that use a capital letter to denote another
word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting
with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1
\2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end #
((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
Then pressed
CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as saving the file.
13. I then
copied this file over to the c:\Program Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing
the file that was already there with the newly modified version. I was asked
if I wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges to complete this task, and I
said OK. The file was copied over successfully.
14. I
restarted NVDA.
15. I
pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and went to Accappella TTS. ON my
end this loaded the Ella voice, which is fine, as she's exactly who I
want to do this with.
15. I opened
a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I typed:
#LAUGH01#
I tried this
all the way up to 05, and it did absolutely no good. All she says is, number
laugh 0 1 number.
I tried
putting a space after this line of text, no good. I even tried a carriage
return, but that didn't work either. No other text was on the same line. The
whole document was totally empty except for this.
16. I
tried
#COUGH05#
I wanted to
make her cough as hard as she could, so I could really really hear it in case
it was suttle. That didn't work. All I heard was number cough 05
number.
17. I also
tried with
#CRY05#
No
good.
I dono what
on earth I did wrong!
I know some
voices don't have all the sounds nor exclamations recorded, but unless I read
it wrong, it looks like Ella should have all the above sounds included. I
should note that the syntax of how I am writing these things in Notepad on a
line all by themselves is: number sign, then in all caps, the sound name, like
cough, for example, c o u g h, then no space after the letter h, 05, then
another number sign.
I've tried
putting a space after the first number sign before the letter C in cough. No
good. I tried putting a space after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've put a
space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a space on both sides, before the
C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a space before the C, after the
H, and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long story short, I tried every
combination under the fortunate sun!
I'm totally
sure the voices are activated, and these voices are on version 1.49. I've
tried all 5 levels of laugh, cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even have tried
CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No good.
Have tried
with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey, Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I
also tried with Mika.
I'm totally
at a loss! I even did the sloppy work around by adding the actual number sign
symbol to the temporary dictionary, and replacing with nothing more than a
space character, then, setting the radio button cluster to Anywhere. That
didn't do it either. That got rid of it saying number, but now, all I get is
Cry05
and that's
it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing.
I have some
txt files of things I've written, and I really, really, really! would like to
get these things working, as I think it would make reading the files really
awesome, if I could get those codes to work.
If anyone's
gotten this to work, then tell me step by step what to do. I have a backup
copy of NVDA that I can revert back to if you'd like me to just start over
totally fresh from before I ever started screwing with this, this way we're at
ground square 1.
The more
specific keystroke by keystroke you can be at telling me how to do this, the
better. Please, be as specific as you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage
will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna need it.
Again,
Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4
official release.
Thank you
profusely!
Chris.
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Admin's Note: RE: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
Hello, Please respond to Chris off-list. Chris, you should probably also contact Acapela directly. This is more of an issue with their synth and your syntax than with the NVDA screen reader. No further admin intervention will occur unless this thread gets out of hand. Also, please endeavor to moderate your language on this list as we do have a wide variety of members, and we are the representatives of the great NVDA screen reader. If you have any questions, please submit them to the owner address. Thanks. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From: Christopher-Mark GillandSent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 21:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: [nvda] Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused! Importance: High First off, let me refer you to this link: http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/ OK, so here's the deal. I have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64 Bit. I'm trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over here to figure out, excuse my language, why in the bloody hell! this isn't working. Here's what I've done up to this point. 1. Press Windows key+R to open the run dialog. 2. Typed c: and pressed enter. 3. Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed enter on the NVDA folder. 4. Navigated to builtin.dic 5. Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the clipboard 6. Navigated to my Documents folder 7. Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a backup copy. 8. Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter to open Builtin.dic 9. Found the line about breaking words that end with numbers. This line, in itself was commented, but the line referenced in the link above right below it wasn't. 10. Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very beginning of the line directly after the break line. I then put a space after the number sign. So, here is what my entire file looks like. Note that to seperate the file's content from the rest of the file, I have put the content between two lines of three hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are only being used as a container placeholder to show you all where the content begins and ends, so, beware. --- #break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1 --- 11. Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save as dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the save button, pressed enter, said yes to replace, then got an error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an administrator. 12. Closed this Notepad window with the file, went to my Documents folder, found the file, editted it in Notepad to read as the following: --- #break up words that use a capital letter to denote another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word starting with a capital from a fully uppercase word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1 --- Then pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as saving the file. 13. I then copied this file over to the c:\Program Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was already there with the newly modified version. I was asked if I wanted to use automatic elevated priveledges to complete this task, and I said OK. The file was copied over successfully. 14. I restarted NVDA. 15. I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and went to Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the Ella voice, which is fine, as she's exactly who I want to do this with. 15. I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I typed: #LAUGH01# I tried this all the way up to 05, and it did absolutely no good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1 number. I tried putting a space after this line of text, no good. I even tried a carriage return, but that didn't work either. No other text was on the same line. The whole document was totally empty except for this. 16. I tried #COUGH05# I wanted to make her cough as hard as she could, so I could really really hear it in case it was suttle. That didn't work. All I heard was number cough 05 number. 17. I also tried with #CRY05# No good. I dono what on earth I did wrong! I know some voices don't have all the sounds nor exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it looks like Ella should have all the above sounds included. I should note that the syntax of how I am writing these things in Notepad on a line all by themselves is: number sign, then in all caps, the sound name, like cough, for example, c o u g h, then no space after the letter h, 05, then another number sign. I've tried putting a space after the first number sign before the letter C in cough. No good. I tried putting a space after the 5 in cough05, no good. I've put a space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a space on both sides, before the C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a space before the C, after the H, and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long story short, I tried every combination under the fortunate sun! I'm totally sure the voices are activated, and these voices are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5 levels of laugh, cough, cry, sneeze, breath, and even have tried CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No good. Have tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey, Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I also tried with Mika. I'm totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work around by adding the actual number sign symbol to the temporary dictionary, and replacing with nothing more than a space character, then, setting the radio button cluster to Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got rid of it saying number, but now, all I get is Cry05 and that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing. I have some txt files of things I've written, and I really, really, really! would like to get these things working, as I think it would make reading the files really awesome, if I could get those codes to work. If anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step by step what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I can revert back to if you'd like me to just start over totally fresh from before I ever started screwing with this, this way we're at ground square 1. The more specific keystroke by keystroke you can be at telling me how to do this, the better. Please, be as specific as you can be. Trust me. The extral verbiage will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm gonna need it. Again, Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4 official release. Thank you profusely! Chris.
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Accappella TTS Config: OK, face it. I'm utterly confused!
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
First off, let me refer you to this
link:
http://www.acapela-nvda.com/blog/2017/01/12/is-your-acapela-voice-laughing-or-crying-with-nvda/
OK, so here's the deal.
I have NVDA 2016.4 on Windows 10 Home 64
Bit.
I'm trying whilst pulling my dang hair out over here
to figure out, excuse my language, why in the bloody hell! this isn't
working.
Here's what I've done up to this point.
1. Press Windows key+R to open the run
dialog.
2. Typed c: and pressed enter.
3. Navigated to Program Files X86, and pressed enter
on the NVDA folder.
4. Navigated to builtin.dic
5. Pressed CTRL+C to copy it to the
clipboard
6. Navigated to my Documents folder
7. Pressed CTRL+V to paste the file so I'd have a
backup copy.
8. Went back to the NVDA directory, and pressed enter
to open Builtin.dic
9. Found the line about breaking words that end with
numbers. This line, in itself was commented, but the line referenced in the link
above right below it wasn't.
10. Typed a number sign, (#) right at the very
beginning of the line directly after the break line. I then put a space after
the number sign.
So, here is what my entire file looks like. Note that
to seperate the file's content from the rest of the file, I have put the content
between two lines of three hyphens. The hyphens are not in the file. They are
only being used as a container placeholder to show you all where the content
begins and ends, so, beware.
---
#break up words that use a capital letter to denote
another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word
starting with a capital from a fully uppercase
word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have
numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
11. Pressed CTRL+S to save. Was presented with a save
as dialog. Left the file name alone, tabbed to the save button, pressed enter,
said yes to replace, then got an error access denied. Yes. I am logged on as an
administrator.
12. Closed this Notepad window with the file, went to
my Documents folder, found the file, editted it in Notepad to read as the
following:
---
#break up words that use a capital letter to denote
another word ([a-z])([A-Z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break away a word
starting with a capital from a fully uppercase
word ([A-Z])([A-Z][a-z]) \1 \2 1 1 #Break words that have
numbers at the end # ((?:(?=\D)\w)+)(\d+) \1 \2 1 1
---
Then pressed CTRL+S to save. This worked as far as
saving the file.
13. I then copied this file over to the c:\Program
Files X86\NVDA directory, replacing the file that was already there with the
newly modified version. I was asked if I wanted to use automatic elevated
priveledges to complete this task, and I said OK. The file was copied over
successfully.
14. I restarted NVDA.
15. I pressed NVDA+CTRL+S to select synthesizer, and
went to Accappella TTS. ON my end this loaded the Ella voice, which
is fine, as she's exactly who I want to do this with.
15. I opened a blank file in Notepad, and in it, I
typed:
#LAUGH01#
I tried this all the way up to 05, and it did
absolutely no good. All she says is, number laugh 0 1 number.
I tried putting a space after this line of text, no
good. I even tried a carriage return, but that didn't work either. No other text
was on the same line. The whole document was totally empty except for
this.
16. I tried
#COUGH05#
I wanted to make her cough as hard as she could, so I
could really really hear it in case it was suttle. That didn't work. All I heard
was number cough 05 number.
17. I also tried with
#CRY05#
No good.
I dono what on earth I did wrong!
I know some voices don't have all the sounds nor
exclamations recorded, but unless I read it wrong, it looks like Ella should
have all the above sounds included. I should note that the syntax of how I am
writing these things in Notepad on a line all by themselves is: number sign,
then in all caps, the sound name, like cough, for example, c o u g h, then no
space after the letter h, 05, then another number sign.
I've tried putting a space after the first number
sign before the letter C in cough. No good. I tried putting a space after the 5
in cough05, no good. I've put a space before the numbers 05, no good. I put a
space on both sides, before the C, and after the 5 both. No good. I even did a
space before the C, after the H, and after the 5 all 3. No good. Basically, long
story short, I tried every combination under the fortunate sun!
I'm totally sure the voices are activated, and these
voices are on version 1.49. I've tried all 5 levels of laugh, cough, cry,
sneeze, breath, and even have tried CAR REVVING. I even tried all 5 of AARGH. No
good.
Have tried with Ella, Will, Will Happy, Rosey,
Amilio, Josh, and I think even Heather. I also tried with Mika.
I'm totally at a loss! I even did the sloppy work
around by adding the actual number sign symbol to the temporary dictionary, and
replacing with nothing more than a space character, then, setting the radio
button cluster to Anywhere. That didn't do it either. That got rid of it saying
number, but now, all I get is
Cry05
and that's it. No boo hoo hoo, no ha ha ha, no
aaaaaaaaarg! Nothing.
I have some txt files of things I've written, and I
really, really, really! would like to get these things working, as I think it
would make reading the files really awesome, if I could get those codes to
work.
If anyone's gotten this to work, then tell me step by
step what to do. I have a backup copy of NVDA that I can revert back to if you'd
like me to just start over totally fresh from before I ever started screwing
with this, this way we're at ground square 1.
The more specific keystroke by keystroke you can be
at telling me how to do this, the better. Please, be as specific as you can be.
Trust me. The extral verbiage will not drive me crazy. Right now, I think I'm
gonna need it.
Again, Windows 10 Home 64 bit, Accappella TTS for
NVDA V 1.49, and NVDA 2016.4 official release.
Thank you profusely!
Chris.
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Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs
Ladies and gentlemen, If you have downloaded Control Usage Assistant 2.4, I’d like to ask you to download it a second time due to a critical problem discovered by at least two users. Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 8:24 AM To: 'nvda@groups.io' <nvda@groups.io> Subject: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs Hi all, Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there. I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls). For fans of this add-on, the download link is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs
Hi, Fixed in a revision (will hit the air soon). Cheers, Joseph
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 1:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs also pressing nvda caps lock and h does nothing any where. On 31/01/2017 17:03, Ron Canazzi wrote: Hi Joseph,.
I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.
On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.
I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I'm grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for
controls).
For fans of this add-on, the download link is:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs
also pressing nvda caps lock and h does nothing any where.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 31/01/2017 17:03, Ron Canazzi wrote: Hi Joseph,.
I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1.
On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi all,
Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there.
I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls).
For fans of this add-on, the download link is:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs
Hi, It’s online for me. NV Access did a server upgrade, perhaps that’s why. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Usage Assistant 2.4 released, end of line for this add-on from Joseph's labs Hi Joseph, Not sure if the mentioned site is down I could not open it.Thanks! Robert Mendoza On 2/1/2017 1:07 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, Don’t worry about this for now – when you click that link, it’ll ask you to download version 2.4. Cheers, Joseph Hi Joseph,. I don't see this on the add on page. The latest I see if 2.1. On 1/31/2017 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi all, Control Usage Assistant add-on 2.4 just hit the air. This is mostly a localization update with some cleanups here and there. I also hereby announce that Control Usage Assistant has entered end of support countdown. With the number of my add-on brainchildren expanding, academics and what not, I felt it is time to part ways with the current version of this add-on. Thankfully, Derek Riemer, a rising star in NVDA community, has agreed to take this add-on to the next level. I’m grateful for users of this add-on for giving me suggestions ,advice and encouragement for the last four years, and I learned a lot about NVDA add-ons world and screen reader development through this add-on (by the way, Control Usage Assistant is my first original add-on; released in 2013, it allows users to obtain help for controls). For fans of this add-on, the download link is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/controlUsageAssistant.en.html Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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