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Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I know what Snapshots are, Gene.  Smile.  Perhaps you have a point here.  I just figured it would make things possibly a bit more seemless.  Shruggs.  I guess not though.
 
Oh well, it was... worth me asking, I suppose.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I don't think it makes sense to have NVDA download snapshot builds.  For one thing, many users may be confused or not know what a snapshot is.  Snapshots are not production code.  They are intended for testing and having to go to a web site to download snapshots indicates that the person doing so has enough knowledge to be aware, or to be reasonably be assumed to be aware, that this is test code and may not run well.  Test code should be kept separate from production code.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
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Re: Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Gene
 

I don't think it makes sense to have NVDA download snapshot builds.  For one thing, many users may be confused or not know what a snapshot is.  Snapshots are not production code.  They are intended for testing and having to go to a web site to download snapshots indicates that the person doing so has enough knowledge to be aware, or to be reasonably be assumed to be aware, that this is test code and may not run well.  Test code should be kept separate from production code.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
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Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.


Re: Subgroup and moderator election poll results: subgroup proposal adopted, moderator election will not take place

Daniel Semro <semrodaniel@...>
 

I'd love to help be a moderator!

On 3/25/16, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,



The subgroup and election poll is hereby closed.



The final tally:



* Subgroup proposal: 7 yes, 2 no (proposal adopted).

* Moderator election: 4 yes, 7 no (moderators will be chosen by
leaders).



So far, two people have shown interest in becoming the next associate
moderator (one who'll take my seat): Doug and Stuart. As for the procedure
to be used by Nimer, it'll be up to him. Nimer and I are still looking for
candidates.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Suggestion for upcoming NVDA build

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.
 
How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it.  Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.
 
What do you all think?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.


Re: skype going universal

Arlene
 

I don’t use it either. Joking! In case people use it. Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: March-25-16 3:21 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] skype going universal

Seems a bit daft to cut any form of existing system that gives more people
access.
I hardly ever use Skype any more. Its about time that Apple released their
system so third party providors could add it to other platforms.
Brian

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briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] skype going universal


Hi.
Forgot what list this origionally came on but someone was talking about an
app releasefor skype and the phasing out of desktop.
I did a chat with support, who told me that they were not even planning to
release the universal just yet and don't know when that will be.
I asked them to give us a classic interface with same keyboard layout and
no ribbons weather this changes things I don't know but at least I tried.



Re: Freelists archive freeze

Arlene
 

Hi, I left Freelists after Josiph said he was moving the NVDA list. I left after I joined this new list.

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: March-25-16 5:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi,

Ah, that’s because the former list wasn’t set to announce-only list yet (that’s coming next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon [mailto:supanut2000@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:16 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Re: Weird desktop messages?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Wonderful.  Thank you for your quick response.  It's appreciated.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Tyler Spivey
 

Thanks for this. I didn't know you could do that on the desktop. It's
not in the context menus, even when everything is unselected with
control+space.
It also seems that, testing briefly, list has one entry per line
vertically instead of the grid when in icon view.

On 3/25/2016 6:27 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,

Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as
ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lino Morales <mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>
*To:* <mailto:nvda@groups.io>nvda@groups.io
*Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows
key+d, I get all this extra speech added with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Re: Latest Weather Add On Not Working For last 24 hours

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Ron and all,

I thought that it was my Internet connection. I haven't tried since I rebooted, but I will keep this in mind. I love weather plus. I would hate to see it go the way of Moxier world.

Ben

On Mar 25, 2016, at 08:46, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Group,

Has anyone noticed that the Weather Add on (the more sophisticated one) is not working for the past 24 hours?

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Re: Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Control+Shift+6

On 3/25/2016 9:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Lino,
 
Is there by chance a command which will do the same thing as ctrl+Shift+5, only that will activate Detail?
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird desktop messages?

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Re: Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Yep, that fix it. Thanks for that.

On 3/25/2016 9:19 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.



Re: Weird desktop messages?

Lino Morales
 

You are in the details view. Hit CTRL shift 5 for list.

On 3/25/2016 9:18 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Weird desktop messages?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, when i go to the desktop, in windows 8 with the windows key+d, I get all this extra speech added  with my icons.
For example, foobar2000; 1 KB; Shortcut; ‎3/‎19/‎2016 ‏‎5:17 PM.
The tool tips, and help balloons are turned off in NVDA.
I'm just thinking it's something i accidentally hit.


Subgroup and moderator election poll results: subgroup proposal adopted, moderator election will not take place

 

Hello everyone,

 

The subgroup and election poll is hereby closed.

 

The final tally:

 

·         Subgroup proposal: 7 yes, 2 no (proposal adopted).

·         Moderator election: 4 yes, 7 no (moderators will be chosen by leaders).

 

So far, two people have shown interest in becoming the next associate moderator (one who’ll take my seat): Doug and Stuart. As for the procedure to be used by Nimer, it’ll be up to him. Nimer and I are still looking for candidates.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Hi,

Ah, that’s because the former list wasn’t set to announce-only list yet (that’s coming next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Supanut Leepaisomboon [mailto:supanut2000@...]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 5:16 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Re: Freelists archive freeze

 

Yes I know that, but I wonder why there are still new messages being posted on Freelists version of the forum?


Creating Start page in the Edge?

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
We're happily using Windows 10 with NVDA and even use the Edge browser some. Can we set up a start page of our choice or is that inaccessible for us? If we can, please tell me how? Thanks.

Sent from Lisa's iPhone6


Re: prevent pages from refreshing

Gene
 

I don't know what Cobra is.  I can say that in Firefox, there is a setting to stop the browser from refreshing.  I don't know what effect the setting has on structures such as carousels.  Nor do I know if what is going on has the same or a similar cause because I don't know what is being described as refreshing in today's message. 
 
If you use firefox, in the main window, press alt, then press t, wait a moment then o.
Tab once after waiting a moment.
down arrow to advanced.
If you get stuck partway down the list, up arrow then continue down again to get you unstuck.
Once you get to advanced, start tabbing.  You will see a check box about notifying you if Firefox is being redirected or refreshing a page.  That isn't the exact wording but it's there and my description should allow you to kno it.  Check the check box.  There is no ok button.  Continue using firefox now.  Or close it if you wish. 
 
You may find that you get one such message when a page wants to do something and nothing more during that session of working on the page. You don't have to worry about closing such messages.  They don't block anything and will be replaced automaticaally with future messages. 
 
As far as commercial screen-readers are concerned, while they have features to stop refreshes, I don't know if they work in all cases.  I have found times in the past when the JAWS feature didn't work when confronted by some kinds of page refreshes.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] prevent pages from refreshing


Hello Davy,

I started this topic more than once, and even last week or ten days ago.
I was told that "I was describing a way Firefox behaves on my machine",
and that if this had been a problem for more people than myself, there
would be ah uge number of messages on this (or soemthing to that ilk).

Clearly, this is an issue that NVDA should find a way of solving, one
way or another. This constant refiesching of webpages is nnoying, and
prevents one from working correctly.

Other screen readers have a way of blocking this, so it MUST be possible.

I'd hate to have to go back to commercial screen readers because of this
issue, because more and moe web pages seem to be employing this horrible
technology (Carousels, or whatever they call them).

Thanks for beinging this up again.
Hopefully, since there are now tro of us, someone will take a minute to
look into this.
Ciao,
Ollie



Il 25/03/2016 17:34, Davy Cuppens ha scritto:
> Hi folks
> Is there a way in nvda that one can prevent pages from being
> constantly refreshed? In my professional sr Cobra I have a shortcut s
> in virtual mode so that pags become static and focus won’t jump to the
> front of it.
> Regards
> Davy
>