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Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

James AUSTIN
 

The wired keyboard can be used on a Windows PC.

On 6 Feb 2017, at 20:08, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

That's what I thought! Why would you want to use an Apple key board on a windows computer? The Apple keyboard functions are for Apple what I thought!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: February-06-17 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Hello, Not to be contentious or anything, but the apple bluetooth keyboard sited by hecter is made by apple specifically for apple products.


Hecter, your keyboard uses fn plus right arrow for end, making the required
keystroke nvda + fn + shift + right arrow. The apple bluetooth keyboard is
very minimalist, but as some one else said, you can use nvda + 1 to press
key combinations and see what they do.

If you have a little money to spend, you can also install VMware fusion and
virtualize your bootcamp partician. You can then use karabiner to add
aditional functionality to your apple keyboard including a built in number
pad and assignments for keys such as the application context key.

This is the setup I used when I owned a mac.

Sorry I missed this when it first came out. I'll keep my eye on the thread
in case any one else has questions.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
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On February 6, 2017 1:55:43 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@...> wrote:

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector
















Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Arlene
 

Oh, okay! Sorry about that! I was wondering why you were asking about a mac keyboard.  Now it makes sense. Okay I get it.  sorry for the last post.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hector Elias
Sent: February-06-17 5:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

 

Hello Everyone:

Thank you for your responses. I am sorry that I was not more specific on my earlier post. I am running boot camp on a 2012 iMac, so I do not have the touch bar. When I press NVDA + 1 to enter "Input  Help" I get the following message, "NVDA + Shift + right arrow moves the navigator object to the next object." On my Mac I use the FN key with the right arrow to perform the key stroke to simulate the "End" key. When I press just the FN + right arrow, when in input help, I get the message, "end". So I know that the latter key combination works. I wonder if it will only take certain keys at once. If so, besides using Sharp keys, is there another work around anyone knows of?

I hope this clarifies any questions you may have.

Thanks again,

Hector

 

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:41 AM, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:

Hi again folks

I forgot to add that on Mac laptop and Apple wireless keyboards, the FN key is on the bottom left row at the far left. On wired Apple keyboards, if I remember correctly the FN key is in place of the Insert key, at the far left of the block of six above the arrow keys.

Take care

James




On 06/02/2017 10:36, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi all,

On a Mac the Windows key is mapped to the Apple key which is in the place of the ALT key on a PC keyboard. As for the touch strip along the top of Mac laptop keyboards is usable with Voice Over, but at present the touch strip has not found its way to the desktop keyboard.

For other Windows key bindings, there is I think an app called Sharp Keys.

Take care

James

On 06/02/2017 10:16, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key.  So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out.  That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do.  If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the  laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if  there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector






 







 


Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Arlene
 

That's what I thought! Why would you want to use an Apple key board on a windows computer? The Apple keyboard functions are for Apple what I thought!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: February-06-17 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Hello, Not to be contentious or anything, but the apple bluetooth keyboard sited by hecter is made by apple specifically for apple products.


Hecter, your keyboard uses fn plus right arrow for end, making the required
keystroke nvda + fn + shift + right arrow. The apple bluetooth keyboard is
very minimalist, but as some one else said, you can use nvda + 1 to press
key combinations and see what they do.

If you have a little money to spend, you can also install VMware fusion and
virtualize your bootcamp partician. You can then use karabiner to add
aditional functionality to your apple keyboard including a built in number
pad and assignments for keys such as the application context key.

This is the setup I used when I owned a mac.

Sorry I missed this when it first came out. I'll keep my eye on the thread
in case any one else has questions.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On February 6, 2017 1:55:43 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@...> wrote:

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector









Re: Facebook

Arlene
 

I Thank the person who posted the site to this list days ago. I don’t like the regular site. It's too cluttered. Also, What I found was this, if I was on that site for a long time. My computer would slow down!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: February-06-17 7:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

I use the mobile version of Facebook on my HP laptop running Windows
10 and works very well with NVDA. The regular Facebook is too cluttered, something that does not go well with screen readers.
Nevzat Adil

On 2/6/17, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:
Try:

<https://m.facebook.com/> https://m.facebook.com/





Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using
Windows 8.1.



From: Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@...>

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com
<http://www.facebook.com> just use m.facebook.com and there is no
problem at all!



From: Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@...>

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far,
no luck. All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page
interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to
use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... <mailto:nickjentz@...>
wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any
of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the
newsfeed and have it read. Specifically, how do I get into the
newsfeed and then how do you get it to read? Thanks for any help.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows
10








Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hello, Not to be contentious or anything, but the apple bluetooth keyboard sited by hecter is made by apple specifically for apple products.


Hecter, your keyboard uses fn plus right arrow for end, making the required keystroke nvda + fn + shift + right arrow. The apple bluetooth keyboard is very minimalist, but as some one else said, you can use nvda + 1 to press key combinations and see what they do.

If you have a little money to spend, you can also install VMware fusion and virtualize your bootcamp partician. You can then use karabiner to add aditional functionality to your apple keyboard including a built in number pad and assignments for keys such as the application context key.

This is the setup I used when I owned a mac.

Sorry I missed this when it first came out. I'll keep my eye on the thread in case any one else has questions.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On February 6, 2017 1:55:43 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@...> wrote:

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector








A Couple More Word Quesions

kelby carlson
 

Sorry for asking so many of these; maybe I should buy the book.

1. Is there any way to quickly move to misspelled words in the
document by quick keys or does one have to use f7 to go to the
toolbar? (This is another thing NVDA might not do that JAWS can.)
Also, how do you route the mouse to a specific word so that you can
right clock on the word to see i.e. the thesaurus? I've tried this
with object navigation but I'm not getting anything?

2. Is there a way to get rid of the editing/proofing toolbar when
you're done with it so you don't have to push f6 so many times when
moving between panes?


Re: NVDA and the Nano text editor

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Yep, use nano all the time. I don't have any issues using it, but then again, I've been using linux since somewhere around 1992-93 timeframe, so I'm used to it, and don't have problems moving around the screen using it. There's always the control-L command if your cursor is completely lost, and you can't find it (doesn't happen often, but it does happen, much less now that dialup is gone), what specifically are you having trouble with? give me steps to replicate, and I'll find a solution for you.

On 2/6/2017 6:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:
Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James



Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home, end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer, what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.

On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector






Re: Facebook

 

I use the mobile version of Facebook on my HP laptop running Windows
10 and works very well with NVDA. The regular Facebook is too
cluttered, something that does not go well with screen readers.
Nevzat Adil

On 2/6/17, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:
Try:

<https://m.facebook.com/> https://m.facebook.com/





Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter
Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows
8.1.



From: Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@...>

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com
<http://www.facebook.com> just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem
at all!



From: Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@...>

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no
luck. All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so
radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart
Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... <mailto:nickjentz@...>
wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the
surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it
read. Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get
it to read? Thanks for any help.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10








Re: Facebook

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Try:

https://m.facebook.com/

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows 8.1.

 

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem at all!

 

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no luck.  All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it read.  Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get it to read?  Thanks for any help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: NVDA and the Nano text editor

James AUSTIN
 

Ah thanks. Yes a Braille display would make a difference.

Thanks

On 06/02/2017 14:04, Øyvind Lode wrote:
I use nano daily.
However, I use nano on Linux and also via cygwin.
When using nano in cygwin or on a linux box via ssh in cygwin NVDA
does not work correctly with the nano navigation keyboard shortcuts
but I can see the cursor on my Braille display, so therefore it works
fine for me.


On 6 February 2017 at 12:57, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use
Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit
text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved
with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text
editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot
with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James




Re: NVDA and the Nano text editor

Øyvind Lode
 

I use nano daily.
However, I use nano on Linux and also via cygwin.
When using nano in cygwin or on a linux box via ssh in cygwin NVDA
does not work correctly with the nano navigation keyboard shortcuts
but I can see the cursor on my Braille display, so therefore it works
fine for me.

On 6 February 2017 at 12:57, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use
Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit
text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved
with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text
editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot
with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James




Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Hector Elias <hmelias09@...>
 

Hello Everyone:

Thank you for your responses. I am sorry that I was not more specific on my earlier post. I am running boot camp on a 2012 iMac, so I do not have the touch bar. When I press NVDA + 1 to enter "Input  Help" I get the following message, "NVDA + Shift + right arrow moves the navigator object to the next object." On my Mac I use the FN key with the right arrow to perform the key stroke to simulate the "End" key. When I press just the FN + right arrow, when in input help, I get the message, "end". So I know that the latter key combination works. I wonder if it will only take certain keys at once. If so, besides using Sharp keys, is there another work around anyone knows of?

I hope this clarifies any questions you may have.

Thanks again,

Hector

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:41 AM, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi again folks

I forgot to add that on Mac laptop and Apple wireless keyboards, the FN key is on the bottom left row at the far left. On wired Apple keyboards, if I remember correctly the FN key is in place of the Insert key, at the far left of the block of six above the arrow keys.

Take care

James



On 06/02/2017 10:36, James AUSTIN wrote:
Hi all,

On a Mac the Windows key is mapped to the Apple key which is in the place of the ALT key on a PC keyboard. As for the touch strip along the top of Mac laptop keyboards is usable with Voice Over, but at present the touch strip has not found its way to the desktop keyboard.

For other Windows key bindings, there is I think an app called Sharp Keys.

Take care

James

On 06/02/2017 10:16, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key.  So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out.  That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do.  If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the  laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if  there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector




















NVDA and the Nano text editor

James AUSTIN
 

Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM ---
another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James


Re: O E classic again

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

No problem I appreciate the suggestion.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 12:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O E classic again

 

It only was a suggestion, I'm sorry.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis L

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 11:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] O E classic again

 

Not everyone likes thunderbird. Used it don’t like it.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O E classic again

 

Why not just use Thunderbird, being it's fully supported, and being NVDA works absolutely beautifully! with it?

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 9:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] O E classic again

 

Hello all,

I just did a system upgrade for a friend and found that live essentials is
no more.  He didn't go all the way to windows 10 so he is stuck without an
email client.  OE classic is inaccessible, but I paid not as much attention
to the discussions on it as I should have.  So, I installed it and was less
than happy with the result.  My friend is even more disgruntled as you can
imagine.  Is any work being done to make an add-on to support OE classic? 
If so, how can we contribute?  Neither of us are coders, but we may be able
to help with funding and testing.

Thanks,

Erik

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Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

James AUSTIN
 

Hi again folks

I forgot to add that on Mac laptop and Apple wireless keyboards, the FN key is on the bottom left row at the far left. On wired Apple keyboards, if I remember correctly the FN key is in place of the Insert key, at the far left of the block of six above the arrow keys.

Take care

James

On 06/02/2017 10:36, James AUSTIN wrote:
Hi all,

On a Mac the Windows key is mapped to the Apple key which is in the place of the ALT key on a PC keyboard. As for the touch strip along the top of Mac laptop keyboards is usable with Voice Over, but at present the touch strip has not found its way to the desktop keyboard.

For other Windows key bindings, there is I think an app called Sharp Keys.

Take care

James

On 06/02/2017 10:16, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector







Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

James AUSTIN
 

Hi all,

On a Mac the Windows key is mapped to the Apple key which is in the place of the ALT key on a PC keyboard. As for the touch strip along the top of Mac laptop keyboards is usable with Voice Over, but at present the touch strip has not found its way to the desktop keyboard.

For other Windows key bindings, there is I think an app called Sharp Keys.

Take care

James

On 06/02/2017 10:16, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector






Re: O E classic again

Brian's Mail list account
 

I believe like a lot of things, its gone past its support date, which means yes, you can probably still use it but nobody is fixing bugs etc.
I've noticed that some older updates for no longer supported versions of Word have also been pulled down causing later versions of windows to report that lots of automatic updates failed with unable to download the update. It seems they have forgotten to tell 7 and up updaters not to keep trying to download removed office updates, which is a little bit messy in my view.
Most of the ones I see are updates for powerpoint, word and Escel etc in Office 2002/3.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Gamages" <james.gamage@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] O E classic again


Hello Gene,

It seems that, after 10 January 2017, it is no longer downloadable from
Microsoft.

Best Regards, Jim.

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] O E classic again

What do you mean Live Essentials is no more. People still use it who are
using Windows 8 or 10. I don't know why it disappeared in the upgrade but
it can be reinstalled.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2017 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] O E classic again


Hello all,

I just did a system upgrade for a friend and found that live essentials is
no more. He didn't go all the way to windows 10 so he is stuck without an
email client. OE classic is inaccessible, but I paid not as much attention
to the discussions on it as I should have. So, I installed it and was less
than happy with the result. My friend is even more disgruntled as you can
imagine. Is any work being done to make an add-on to support OE classic?
If so, how can we contribute? Neither of us are coders, but we may be able
to help with funding and testing.

Thanks,

Erik

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Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Brian's Mail list account
 

I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector






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Re: NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size keyboards, they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the bottom left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with another key.  So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what that reads out.  That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using actually has a status bar, as not all do.  If the program you are in doesn't have a status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:
Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when pressing the keystroke. Also, try using the  laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:
Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if  there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector










--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess