Hi all,

Embarrassingly,  I can’t find the keystroke to give cell coordinates in Excel. I don’t want the content just the cell coordinates.

Many thanks,

Jim.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2017 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

Let me join the Facebook thread.

Hi friends,

I have recently discovered that Google Chrome as a browser makes it possible for us to do the live streaming on facebook. I have checked IE, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Avast Safe Zone Browser, but to no avail. The link Live Video, it seems, is not recognized by them.

I hope this means something to you.

Dejan

On 2/6/2017 4:12 PM, Louis Maher wrote:

Try:

https://m.facebook.com/

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows 8.1.

 

From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem at all!

 

From: Roger Stewart

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no luck.  All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it read.  Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get it to read?  Thanks for any help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Let me join the Facebook thread.

Hi friends,

I have recently discovered that Google Chrome as a browser makes it possible for us to do the live streaming on facebook. I have checked IE, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Avast Safe Zone Browser, but to no avail. The link Live Video, it seems, is not recognized by them.

I hope this means something to you.

Dejan

Try:

https://m.facebook.com/

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows 8.1.

 

From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem at all!

 

From: Roger Stewart

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no luck.  All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it read.  Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get it to read?  Thanks for any help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Let me join the Facebook thread.

Hi friends,

I have recently discovered that Google Chrome as a browser makes it possible for us to do the live streaming on facebook. I have checked IE, Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Avast Safe Zone Browser, but to no avail. The link Live Video, it seems, is not recognized by them.

I hope this means something to you.

Dejan

On 2/6/2017 4:12 PM, Louis Maher wrote:

Try:

https://m.facebook.com/

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows 8.1.

 

From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem at all!

 

From: Roger Stewart

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no luck.  All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it read.  Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get it to read?  Thanks for any help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Try:

https://m.facebook.com/

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using Windows 8.1.

 

From: Davy Cuppens

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com just use m.facebook.com and there is no problem at all!

 

From: Roger Stewart

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook

 

I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far, no luck.  All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@... wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the newsfeed and have it read.  Specifically, how do I get into the newsfeed and then how do you get it to read?  Thanks for any help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

Hi Travis

I don't have a Braille display at present, which may be where the
problem lies.

I am able to navigate with the arrow keys up and down and letter by
letter. However, when I use one of Nano's navigation commands or another
nano command, NVDA loses track of the cursor or else cannot read the
screen say in the file browser for instance

Thanks for any help/advice

James


On 06/02/2017 18:59, Travis Siegel wrote:

Yep, use nano all the time. I don't have any issues using it, but
then again, I've been using linux since somewhere around 1992-93
timeframe, so I'm used to it, and don't have problems moving around
the screen using it. There's always the control-L command if your
cursor is completely lost, and you can't find it (doesn't happen
often, but it does happen, much less now that dialup is gone), what
specifically are you having trouble with? give me steps to replicate,
and I'll find a solution for you.



On 2/6/2017 6:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on
list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to
read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's
cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also
true for VIM --- another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work
a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at
all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James

.

Apparently even JAWS is not able to do this in Word 2016.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 3:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Endnotes

Ah, I see. Maybe it's just JAWS that does that, then; or perhaps it's footnotes I'm thinking of. In either case, I know if you just save a Word Document with footnotes or endnotes in plain text it converts the way you describe.

On 2/5/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Sorry, I jumped ahead of myself - I was initially thinking, NVDA
identifies that there is a footnote / endnote, but doesn't read the
text of the notes themselves, you would need to go to the notes
section to read the note text. What I was then thinking was if there
was an easy way to convert the notes into inline text, you could do
that - and then either close without saving or undo etc if you didn't want to keep the notes inline.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:24 AM, kelby carlson
<kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quentin,

I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I don't actually need to
convert the endnotes into regular text, I'm just wondering if NVDA
can/will read them when just doing a say-all in the document. I seem
to remember it doing so but now it isn't; I could be confusing it
with JAWS. (Since switching to my new laptop the combination of JAWS
and Word has become completely unworkable, for reasons that remain
mysterious to me and that Freedom Scientific has been totally inept
at fixing as per usual.)

On 2/5/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Hi Kelby,

Interesting question. I've never tried this so just went and had a
quick look. It seems that you can do it manually, with a VB script
or an

add-in

tool. I found a couple of different sites, but this one lists the
three main methods all on one page:
https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/word/1192-word-

convert-endnotes-to-plain-text.html

The only thing I think is that this leaves the notes at the end of
the document as regular text (so you could easily copy to plain
text or

another

format which may not support Word's footnotes). I suspect what you
were after was something that put the footnotes in the middle of
the text

where

the reference was?

One thing you could do, is to create a macro to do it. On the view
menu
(alt+w) is a macro option (m). From here you can record a macro,
which once started, will "record" every keystroke you press until
you turn recording off. While recording, you can move to the next
footnote

(alt+s,

o, n) then jump to the notes area (alt+s, h) select and copy the
note,

move

back to the main text, and paste the text from the footnote,
perhaps in brackets.

Although I don't have an immediate need for it personally, I'll be
interested to see if anyone else comes up with a good solution to this.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:51 AM, kelby carlson
<kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

When reading a document in Word is there a way to make NVDA read
footnotes/endnotes while reading along rather than having to go
into the footnote or endnote pain?

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Sorry, I jumped ahead of myself - I was initially thinking, NVDA
identifies that there is a footnote / endnote, but doesn't read the
text of the notes themselves, you would need to go to the notes
section to read the note text. What I was then thinking was if there
was an easy way to convert the notes into inline text, you could do
that - and then either close without saving or undo etc if you didn't want to keep the notes inline.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:24 AM, kelby carlson
<kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

Quentin,

I think you misunderstood what I was asking. I don't actually need to
convert the endnotes into regular text, I'm just wondering if NVDA
can/will read them when just doing a say-all in the document. I seem
to remember it doing so but now it isn't; I could be confusing it
with JAWS. (Since switching to my new laptop the combination of JAWS
and Word has become completely unworkable, for reasons that remain
mysterious to me and that Freedom Scientific has been totally inept
at fixing as per usual.)

On 2/5/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Hi Kelby,

Interesting question. I've never tried this so just went and had a
quick look. It seems that you can do it manually, with a VB script
or an

add-in

tool. I found a couple of different sites, but this one lists the
three main methods all on one page:
https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/word/1192-word-

convert-endnotes-to-plain-text.html

The only thing I think is that this leaves the notes at the end of
the document as regular text (so you could easily copy to plain
text or

another

format which may not support Word's footnotes). I suspect what you
were after was something that put the footnotes in the middle of
the text

where

the reference was?

One thing you could do, is to create a macro to do it. On the view
menu
(alt+w) is a macro option (m). From here you can record a macro,
which once started, will "record" every keystroke you press until
you turn recording off. While recording, you can move to the next
footnote

(alt+s,

o, n) then jump to the notes area (alt+s, h) select and copy the
note,

move

back to the main text, and paste the text from the footnote,
perhaps in brackets.

Although I don't have an immediate need for it personally, I'll be
interested to see if anyone else comes up with a good solution to this.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:51 AM, kelby carlson
<kelbycarlson@gmail.com>
wrote:

When reading a document in Word is there a way to make NVDA read
footnotes/endnotes while reading along rather than having to go
into the footnote or endnote pain?

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

I need a process I can follow to replicate your problem. I do not experience these issues, so I need to know what *exactly* you're doing that looses focus, then I can determine if it happens to my setup as well. if it doesn't (which I expect to be the case) then it's a matter of software compatibility, and that should be fixable. If I experience the same problem, then I should be able to find a work-around for you. Don't forget, control l is your friend. Most times when I loose focus (which honestly, hasn't happened in years) a simple control l solved the problem for me.



On 2/6/2017 4:22 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi Travis

I don't have a Braille display at present, which may be where the problem lies.

I am able to navigate with the arrow keys up and down and letter by letter. However, when I use one of Nano's navigation commands or another nano command, NVDA loses track of the cursor or else cannot read the screen say in the file browser for instance

Thanks for any help/advice

James


On 06/02/2017 18:59, Travis Siegel wrote:

Yep, use nano all the time. I don't have any issues using it, but then again, I've been using linux since somewhere around 1992-93 timeframe, so I'm used to it, and don't have problems moving around the screen using it. There's always the control-L command if your cursor is completely lost, and you can't find it (doesn't happen often, but it does happen, much less now that dialup is gone), what specifically are you having trouble with? give me steps to replicate, and I'll find a solution for you.



On 2/6/2017 6:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James

Hi Travis

I don't have a Braille display at present, which may be where the problem lies.

I am able to navigate with the arrow keys up and down and letter by letter. However, when I use one of Nano's navigation commands or another nano command, NVDA loses track of the cursor or else cannot read the screen say in the file browser for instance

Thanks for any help/advice

James


On 06/02/2017 18:59, Travis Siegel wrote:

Yep, use nano all the time. I don't have any issues using it, but then again, I've been using linux since somewhere around 1992-93 timeframe, so I'm used to it, and don't have problems moving around the screen using it. There's always the control-L command if your cursor is completely lost, and you can't find it (doesn't happen often, but it does happen, much less now that dialup is gone), what specifically are you having trouble with? give me steps to replicate, and I'll find a solution for you.



On 2/6/2017 6:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James

Yep, use nano all the time. I don't have any issues using it, but then again, I've been using linux since somewhere around 1992-93 timeframe, so I'm used to it, and don't have problems moving around the screen using it. There's always the control-L command if your cursor is completely lost, and you can't find it (doesn't happen often, but it does happen, much less now that dialup is gone), what specifically are you having trouble with? give me steps to replicate, and I'll find a solution for you.



On 2/6/2017 6:57 AM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi folks

Apologies as i have asked a similar question before. Does anyone on list use Nano, a UNIX command line text editor please? I am able to read and edit text with the arrow keys, but NVDA cannot see Nano's cursor when it is moved with Nano-specific commands. The same is also true for VIM --- another text editor.

While I can use Notepadd ++ and other graphical text editors, I work a lot with the command line and would prefer to stay within it if at all possible.

I think Travis has used Nano on here?

Thanks

Take care

James

That's what I thought! Why would you want to use an Apple key board on a windows computer? The Apple keyboard functions are for Apple what I thought!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: February-06-17 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Hello, Not to be contentious or anything, but the apple bluetooth keyboard sited by hecter is made by apple specifically for apple products.


Hecter, your keyboard uses fn plus right arrow for end, making the required
keystroke nvda + fn + shift + right arrow. The apple bluetooth keyboard is
very minimalist, but as some one else said, you can use nvda + 1 to press
key combinations and see what they do.

If you have a little money to spend, you can also install VMware fusion and
virtualize your bootcamp partician. You can then use karabiner to add
aditional functionality to your apple keyboard including a built in number
pad and assignments for keys such as the application context key.

This is the setup I used when I owned a mac.

Sorry I missed this when it first came out. I'll keep my eye on the thread
in case any one else has questions.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On February 6, 2017 1:55:43 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector

On 6 Feb 2017, at 20:08, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:

That's what I thought! Why would you want to use an Apple key board on a windows computer? The Apple keyboard functions are for Apple what I thought!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: February-06-17 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

Hello, Not to be contentious or anything, but the apple bluetooth keyboard sited by hecter is made by apple specifically for apple products.


Hecter, your keyboard uses fn plus right arrow for end, making the required
keystroke nvda + fn + shift + right arrow. The apple bluetooth keyboard is
very minimalist, but as some one else said, you can use nvda + 1 to press
key combinations and see what they do.

If you have a little money to spend, you can also install VMware fusion and
virtualize your bootcamp partician. You can then use karabiner to add
aditional functionality to your apple keyboard including a built in number
pad and assignments for keys such as the application context key.

This is the setup I used when I owned a mac.

Sorry I missed this when it first came out. I'll keep my eye on the thread
in case any one else has questions.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On February 6, 2017 1:55:43 PM "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.

On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil

El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hector Elias
Sent: February-06-17 5:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector

Try:

<https://m.facebook.com/> https://m.facebook.com/





Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Peter Chin
Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I tried m.facebook.com and it didn’t work on my computer. I am using
Windows 8.1.



From: Davy Cuppens <mailto:davycuppens@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 7:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I do not understand while so many blinds use www.facebook.com
<http://www.facebook.com> just use m.facebook.com and there is no
problem at all!



From: Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 2:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook



I've asked for a good tutorial on using Facebook with NVDA but so far,
no luck. All anyone says is that Facebook changes their web page
interface so radically and so often, that it just isn't possible to
use except for Smart Phone app versions.

Roger









On 2/3/2017 6:33 PM, nickjentz@gmail.com <mailto:nickjentz@gmail.com>
wrote:

Could anyone help me navigate facebook with nvda. I can click on any
of the surrounding information, but can’t seem to get into the
newsfeed and have it read. Specifically, how do I get into the
newsfeed and then how do you get it to read? Thanks for any help.



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Windows
10

a mac keyboard has the same keys as any standard keyboard. they call it
an option key instead of a windows key, but they still have it. All
other keys are the same, including page up, page down, delete, home,
end, and insert. Now, of course, if you're using a laptop, then all
bets are off, as is the case with any laptop, but I assure you, macs
have the same keys as windows keyboards, because when the manufacturers
build keyboards, they don't build them for windows, mac, linux, dos or
any other operating system, they build them for a personal computer,
what computer that desktop keyboard plugs into is irrelevant.


On 2/6/2017 5:16 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I think many macs do not have what we call windows keys, so how this
is supposed to all be possible without some form of windos keyboard is
anyyones guess. also ratherer worryingly, many new laptop Macs have no
function keys, just a touch section which can have custom keys mapped
to various parts of it in Mac O/S.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen"
<quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question regarding Mac Keyboard


Hi Hector,

You mention this keyboard doesn't have an END key - do you need to press
another key as well - I know on a lot of smaller than full size
keyboards,
they include a "Fn" key - on Windows keyboards it's usually near the
bottom
left, and to get to some functions / keys you need to press that with
another key. So if END is actually on the down arrow, you might need to
press NVDA+SHIFT+FN+DOWN ARROW?

As Sukil said, try it in Input Help mode (press NVDA+F1) and see what
that
reads out. That should confirm you have the correct keystroke, and also
some keyboards may not let you press more than two or three keys at once.

Finally, with the status bar, check that the program you are using
actually
has a status bar, as not all do. If the program you are in doesn't
have a
status bar, NVDA should still report "No status line found."

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <
sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:

Hi,

Try using input help (NVDA + F1) and tell us what NVDA says when
pressing
the keystroke. Also, try using the laptop keyboard.

Regards,

Sukil


El 06/02/2017 a las 7:57, Hector Elias escribió:

Hello:

I am new to NVDA, and I am using Windows 10 on a MAC using Boot Camp.
I am using the bluetooth keyboard, which doesn't have a numbpad. When
I am using the keyboard command NVDA+Shift+End to read the status
line; it doesn't work. Does anyone know if there is a specific issue
with a MAC keyboard? I tried it on my XPS13 and it worked; however,
that keyboard actually has a "END" key. Or is it something to do with
a setting I am not aware of?

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks,

Hector