NVDA 2017.1 RC1
Wagner Soares Da Silva
Hello, the NVDA 2017.1 release Candidate is now available.
Direct link: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.1rc1/nvda_2017.1rc1.exe Grande Abraço, Wagner. P. S.: VOCÊ ESTÁ RECEBENDO UM E-MAIL DE UMA PESSOA CEGA. ISTO É INCLUSÃO DIGITAL! QUANDO ENVIAR UM ARQUIVO GRÁFICO, (POR EXEMPLO, UMA FOTO), DESCREVA-A NO CORPO DA MENSAGEM. UMA SOCIEDADE INCLUSIVA É AQUELA QUE RECONHECE, RESPEITA E VALORIZA A DIVERSIDADE HUMANA. "O amigo ama sempre e na desgraça ele se torna um irmão". Provérbios 17:17. .
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
I would suggest extracting to wav first.
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winlame at http://winlame.sourceforge.net though quite old still works. The codecs are not up to date but the conversion works for most things.
On 15/02/2017 5:09 p.m., Gene wrote:
It appears you want to convert mp3 files into other formats. If you convert mp3 into other compressed formats such as ogg, you are compressing one compressed format with another. You will loose sound quality if you do so.
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
Where do I get uncheckiefrom? Thanks.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:05 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections
To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS demo. then uninstall it from programs and features. Clidck the remove button with the space bar. When you do so dialogs will come up or something like dialogs. they won't be quite like dialogs because they will be the Avast installer. Tab through them and see what you want to do. I'm not sure just what you will find or if you will come across anything you might need help with because of not being spoken.
Also, get the unchecky utility. It doesn't know about all unwanted programs installed with a lot of free software but it will alert you to a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation. You may not have an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more important to blind users.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: coffeekingms@... Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections
hi Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll get the following additional software avast antivirus bite fence antimalware chromium advanced pc care stack player and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem to click or simulate a left click on the uninstall button, NVDA can't seem to route the mouse pointer to the uninstall button using the caps lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed. Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop to such a tactic. I'm not annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played around with it. Thanks Kendell Clark
On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
coffeekingms@hotmail.com
hi
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Thanks for your help. I tried to install the older version of utorrent from your link provided, but got an error. The exact error was that the file was no longer available, dropbox 460. Restricted content. I'm not sure exactly what it means but it sounds as if dropbox has taken the file down. I'll see if I can find an older version of utorrent. I did install the latest version, and it's crap. It's been taken over with adds and is extremely slow, and not that accessible. I was using deluge on linux, and while it is available on windows it's not accessible hear. Probably the age old gtk apps not being accessible in windows deal. I'll give youtube dl gui more of a chance before I remove it. I haven't used audacity much, but I pre installed it in sonar as the best accessible audio editor for linux, goldwave and reaper don't run on linux and wouldn't be accessible if they did, so I'm familiar with it. Thanks Kendell Clark
On 2/14/2017 10:18 PM, Simon Jaeger wrote:
Hi,
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
Gene
To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS
demo. then uninstall it from programs and features. Clidck the
remove button with the space bar. When you do so dialogs will come up or
something like dialogs. they won't be quite like dialogs because they will
be the Avast installer. Tab through them and see what you want to
do. I'm not sure just what you will find or if you will come across
anything you might need help with because of not being spoken.
Also, get the unchecky utility. It doesn't
know about all unwanted programs installed with a lot of free software but it
will alert you to a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation. You
may not have an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more
important to blind users.
Gene
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From: coffeekingms@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software
selections hi Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll get the following additional software avast antivirus bite fence antimalware chromium advanced pc care stack player and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem to click or simulate a left click on the uninstall button, NVDA can't seem to route the mouse pointer to the uninstall button using the caps lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed. Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop to such a tactic. I'm not annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played around with it. Thanks Kendell Clark On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
coffeekingms@hotmail.com
hi Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll get the following additional software avast antivirus bite fence antimalware chromium advanced pc care stack player and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem to click or simulate a left click on the uninstall button, NVDA can't seem to route the mouse pointer to the uninstall button using the caps lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed. Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop to such a tactic. I'm not annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played around with it. Thanks Kendell Clark
On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
Simon Jaeger
Hi,
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If you were much of a command-line Linux user, you might want to check out Windows 10 bash: http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/ YoutubeDLG is what I use for my videos. You can set some options in preferences according to whether you want to convert to audio and keep the video. You can also put custom command line parameters into its configuration which will get passed to youtube-dl directly. Personally, I keep the "convert to audio" checkbox unchecked, and add a -x to the command line parameters so that the original format gets preserved in the case of aac or opus audio. This depends entirely on whether you want to keep the video though. CDex is definitely good, though I don't know if it's updated for Windows 10. It was the first ripper I ever used and worked until I decided to just use GoldWave's internal converter. For torrenting, I use UTorrent, but a much older version (3.2.1). I don't know off hand where one can download this, so if you trust a google search more than a random stranger on a mailing list, feel free to find your own download. However, this is my copy and it's running well on two of my machines: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1689280/software/utorrent.exe A few people talked about driveragent being good, but it's not free. However, I was told it was 30 to 40 dollars for up to 10 machines. If that's your thing, give it a try. I'm also told the free version will tell you which drivers you need, but will not download them automatically. Don't quote me on either of those things. I'm sure people out here have good suggestions of audio converters. I don't personally have any, as I once again use GoldWave's batch converter most of the time. If I don't, I use the one built into Foobar2000, which also works well in certain cases. Good luck. Feel free to share any discoveries you make as well. Simon
On 2017-02-14 19:04, coffeekingms@... wrote:
hi all
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Re: nvda and spss
enes sarıbaş
hi, It does not work. I have tested. None of the controls in the
interface, or the interface for that matter is accessible. Would
it be possible for you to test this program to determine the
issues.
On 2/15/2017 5:45 AM, Quentin
Christensen wrote:
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
Gene
It appears you want to convert mp3 files into other
formats. If you convert mp3 into other compressed formats such as ogg, you
are compressing one compressed format with another. You will loose sound
quality if you do so.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
hi all I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux, specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list, but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list. A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's, since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything. Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software. I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible. I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such. Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it. Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again. Thanks Kendell Clark Quentin
Christensen
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections
Quentin Christensen
Hi Kendell, Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list! CDex is a popular CD ripper: http://cdex.mu/ It looks up freedb and others (you can set the one you want). I must admit I always just rip to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it. Just looking at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other formats. I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm afraid. I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than they solve. Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a lot more autonomously than it used to. Sometimes it is worth double checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the manufacturer's website. I'm not sure about that file error you're getting. AMD will be your processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure. Is anything happening immediately prior to it crashing? I did a google search on the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is, it's evidently not overly common. Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it. The popular browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with one than the other. Internet Explorer still works and still comes with Windows, even Windows 10. If you are on Windows 10, we do support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick with one of the others for the most part. If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a standalone one: http://www.jarte.com/ otherwise, LibreOffice is a full office suite: http://libreoffice.org/ If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is available for Windows as well: http://www.audacityteam.org/ I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter anything else you need help or a recommendation on. Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@... <coffeekingms@...> wrote: hi all --
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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new to windows, need help with software selections
coffeekingms@hotmail.com
hi all
I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux, specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list, but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list. A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's, since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything. Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software. I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible. I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such. Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it. Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again. Thanks Kendell Clark
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Re: FW: [win10] Vocalizer voices installation to NVDA question
Quentin Christensen
Also, have you set it up in NVDA? It won't automatically change synthesizers. Have you installed the add-on? In NVDA, you need to press NVDA+N to open the menu, then T for tools then A to manage Add-ons. You then need to press alt+i to install a new add-on and use the file open dialog to select the add-on. Next you are prompted to restart NVDA. After that, you can open the Synthesizer dialog (NVDA+CONTROL+S) and select Code Factory Vocalizer or Code Factory Eloquence from the list if you are using the Code Factory version, or "Nuance Vocalizer Expressive" if you are using that version. Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote: Hello! --
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: nvda and spss
Quentin Christensen
Hi, Off the top of my head, I don't know. I just did a quick search and found this forum thread (from 2013) noting that NVDA (at the time) worked with SPSS better than Jaws. If SPSS still works with Jaws, I would hazard a guess that it should still work with NVDA as well. As NVDA is free to use, I would recommend downloading it and trying it. You can download from here: https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ I'd be interested to hear how you find it with SPSS. Do please let us know how you get on. Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:26 AM, UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu <uyigitoglu@...> wrote: Hello, --
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ www.nvaccess.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: FW: [win10] Vocalizer voices installation to NVDA question
Rui Fontes
Hello!
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First, will be good to know what version of Vocalizer... Second, at least with this name I can't find any license, so I think it is the Code Factory version... Third, it is licensed? Fourth, besides the voices addon, the driver addon is also installed? Best regards, Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. -----Mensagem Original----- De: Joseph Lee Data: 14 de fevereiro de 2017 16:12 Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io Assunto: [nvda] FW: [win10] Vocalizer voices installation to NVDA question
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From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Holton Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:46 AM To: win10@win10.groups.io Subject: [win10] Vocalizer voices installation to NVDA question Hi. I have the Vocalizer voices from Blind Bargains. I have installed several and restarted NVDA. They do not show up. How do I get NVDA to recognize them? Thanks. Bill
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Re: revo alternative?
Kevin Cussick
Purin utilities will do it.
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On 14/02/2017 15:28, Robert Kingett wrote:
Is there a more accessible version of Revo Uninstaller? I do not have an
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Re: revo alternative?
Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
I have the older version and can post it. Just be sure not to have it update.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 2:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] revo alternative? yeah, it works, but I only have the new revo, not the old accessible one, so any alternative would be good!
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Re: Chrome
Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Chrome works just fine with NVDA. It's the only browser I use.
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On 2/14/2017 10:15 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Does Google Chrome work with NVDA at all?
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Re: spss use with nvda
enes sarıbaş
hi, unfortunatly, from my testing no. There is a problem with nvda
accessing the controls of the program. An error sound plays with
each key press.
On 2/14/2017 6:45 PM, UMIT ERDEM
Yigitoglu wrote:
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how to make a web site more responsive
mcLeod stinnett
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from mack i go to this site http://www.seekingalpha.com to read articles on the stock market. in the day time n v d a and other screen readers are very slow to respond because of all the ads and articles constantly coming on line. my only solution has been to wait until late at night when activity slows down so i can read pretty well, i use chrome that seems to work the best. i just thought there might be a few settings i cood change to make NVDA more responsive. if i use an ad blocker, the site eventually says take out a subscription for 9.95 i think that's per month. any advice would be appreciated -- from mack<p><br></p>
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Re: revo alternative?
yeah, it works, but I only have the new revo, not the old accessible one, so any alternative would be good!
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