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Re: revo alternative?

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Bulk crap uninstaller works though is a little hard to work in my view. I still use the portable version of the old Revo.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] revo alternative?


yeah, it works, but I only have the new revo, not the old accessible one, so any alternative would be good!


Re: Chrome

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While this is true, the problems arise when you forget which one you are using or forget which one works best with which sites. This latter issue points me toward two possible conclusions. 1 the page designers do not test eheir site enough different browsers

2, the browser makers don't test with enough sites.

grin

Controls differences can be gotten used to its true, but to me at least I do find that reinventing the wheel differently to the established norm is a little eccentric and just a bit arrogant.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome


It has nothing to do with accessibility with NVDA. In some ways, Firefox has a more convenient layout for blind users when working with things like settings and history. But that's because of the way Chrome and Firefox are laid out. If you only use one browser, you won't be able to work with some sites that don't work properly and do with another one. Or you will find some sites slower or less convenient to work with. Knowledgeable demanding users of Windows browsers use more than one. They generally have one as their main browser4 but they use others when they benefit by doing so.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chrome


hi.
chrome works with nvda.
but i think that the most accessible and most compatible browser with
nvda is firefox.
i only use firefox and not another browsers.

On 2/14/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Chrome works very well with NVDA, it's my primary browser.

Cheers
Chris

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carlson
Sent: 14 February 2017 15:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Chrome

Does Google Chrome work with NVDA at all?







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NVDA 2017.1rc1 and audio ducking in creators update

 

Hey,

I read some stuff about audio ducking in the creators update. Is audio ducking no longer available in the creators update?

thanks

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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Gene
 

I'm not saying it won't happen with any antivirus programs, but I've only heard, as I said, of one program that is finnikey to that extent. I believe it's Panda but it's been many years since I've seen this discussed. I almost never see Panda discussed when antivirus programs are discussed by blind people on the lists I follow so I suspect that it is not widely used among them.  It may, as with so many other antivirus programs now, not be accessible or not accessible enough to be considered desirable to use.
 
Gene  

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Gene 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

About ten years ago I used add and remove to uninstall an anti virus
program and as I was installing the new virus program, I received a
message stating something about it detected  a virus program on my
system and if I remember correctly, the installation was
  aborted.   Thats when I learned about uninstall tools.




NVDA concerns

Joanne Michelle Stark
 

Good morning. I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a college student, going to school for a degree in early childhood education.
This semester, I have a couple of powerpoint presentations to deal with, and was just wondering how well the latest version of NVDA works with Microsoft Word, excel and Powerpoint, and with what versions of these products is NVDA compatible? While I primarily use pages and other Apple word processing applications, I'd like to gain experience working with powerpoint on windows, as I feel it is good to have a backup in case things go pear-shaped or in case VoiceOver does not cooperate with certain applications. also, it's good to have a backup tool to accomplish the same tasks as a way of dealing with frustration.  So, for those reasons as well as the fact I needed a gaming laptop, I'm willing to learn how to fully utilize NVDA on a windows machine. The new laptop will be here this upcoming week, and I'm trying to be as proactive as possible regarding getting things together. Oh, and also would like to get my hands on the Japanese to English translation add-on for NVDA, and the latest version of BK3.
Does the eloquence add-on work with NVDA, too? E-Speak makes my head hurt.
One more thing: What steps do I need to follow to get my Braille Edge 40 display to work with NVDA?
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Have a great day.


Re: Bard Express with NVDA2017.1 RC?

Andre Fisher
 

Furthermore, there will be no fixes to the feature set of NVDA 2017.1.
This is a release candidate, so it is identical to the 2017.1 final
release, unless critical issues are found.

On 2/15/17, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:
This is a bard express design issue. It is not an NVDA issue. send
feedback to the bard express team.




Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

It isn't. do your research. it works very well.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

how do we know ninite.org is not spiware?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io" <sukiletxe@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections


Hi Kendell,

Sorry to hear about your resignation from Sonar. Hope the situation
improves over time.

For ripping CDs, you can also use Foobar 2000, which is a music player
(though it extracts audio from videos, too).

There is a CLI version of youtube-dl that works on Windows too (standalone
.exe file).

For installing software with no other stuff, I suggest you take a look at
ninite.org , which will install the software you choose from their
selection of <100 programs. To update it, you just rerun the installer.
They even offer a section for accessible software, and offer to install
NVDA.

Also, you may like chocolatey.org . Chocolatey is a open source (though it
also offers pro versions)command-line package manager for Windows. Be
aware though: like in Linux, sometimes the software you install with it
may not be up to date (the NVDA there is from 2014 for example). But it
does an excellent job of not installing additional things.

For Portable Applications, the most popular one is Portable Apps. You can
either download the platform and "install" the portable software you want
from there, or download the standalone portable apps.


Regards,

Sukil



El 15/02/2017 a las 4:04, coffeekingms@... escribió:
hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark






Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Greetings, As most have said, CDex will do all of your cd ripping and audio conversion tasks. The info CDex uses for tagging comes from cddb.com. If you're not happy with it's results, I believe you can add your favourite service, such as musicbrains, or freecddb and use as many as you want. I have found that the stock option often tells me about audio book cd's but not in a way that I want to use as my directory structure. So, it's handy for identification, but I end up writing my own tags anyway. I had a free program called mp3tag to handle that, but I don't use windows any more and don't know where to get it. I could have some one dropbox it for us if any one is interested.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. We have our squabbles here ocasionally, but people are generally supportive and helpful. I personally think you're taking a step backward switching over to windows full time. As you've already noticed, spyware and bloatware abound. Security is tremendously time consuming. Security products are notoriously inaccessible and cause severe performance breaks. Keeping a system up to date without breaking things is a major hassle. I hate Gene's approach of multiple screen readers, even despite the evidence of different levels of effectiveness in multiple areas across the board. To me, the necessity for multiple screen readers is a symptim of a problem, not a solution to a problem. I've used windows, mac, and Linux, and windows is the most combersome and ineffective operating system I have experienced. Since it's not going away for at least another three to five years, I plow ahead doing my best to keep up on a little bit of windows lore and NVDA lets me do that.

Don't hesitate to ask. Even if some one points you to the manual, we're usually pretty good about it.

Enjoy,

Erik

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On February 14, 2017 10:05:25 PM "coffeekingms@..." <coffeekingms@...> wrote:

hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark




Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi, Ninite is a super reputable IT tool for deployment, but when in doubt, you should always google up and read trusted reviews. Then you may ask, how do you know which reviews to trust? Read very carefully, examine the sources, compair at least several reviews, trust reviewers who share their methods, look for brand names in webpages and webpage addresses, and read the feedback on the reviews. Digital security, especially under windows, is an in depth process involving hours of research and time fiddling.

Do your homework, and you'll find ninite is the real deal, and you'll get practice doing your homework.

Best,

Erik

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On February 15, 2017 5:35:39 AM "Isaac" <bigikemusic@...> wrote:

how do we know ninite.org is not spiware?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io" <sukiletxe@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections


Hi Kendell,

Sorry to hear about your resignation from Sonar. Hope the situation
improves over time.

For ripping CDs, you can also use Foobar 2000, which is a music player
(though it extracts audio from videos, too).

There is a CLI version of youtube-dl that works on Windows too (standalone
.exe file).

For installing software with no other stuff, I suggest you take a look at
ninite.org , which will install the software you choose from their
selection of <100 programs. To update it, you just rerun the installer.
They even offer a section for accessible software, and offer to install
NVDA.

Also, you may like chocolatey.org . Chocolatey is a open source (though it
also offers pro versions)command-line package manager for Windows. Be
aware though: like in Linux, sometimes the software you install with it
may not be up to date (the NVDA there is from 2014 for example). But it
does an excellent job of not installing additional things.

For Portable Applications, the most popular one is Portable Apps. You can
either download the platform and "install" the portable software you want
from there, or download the standalone portable apps.


Regards,

Sukil



El 15/02/2017 a las 4:04, coffeekingms@... escribió:
hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark







Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Thank you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

 

You can get Unchecky at

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Dennis L

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:12 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

 

Where do I get uncheckiefrom?  Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 12:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

 

To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS demo.  then uninstall it from programs and features.  Clidck the remove button with the space bar.  When you do so dialogs will come up or something like dialogs.  they won't be quite like dialogs because they will be the Avast installer.  Tab through them and see what you want to do.  I'm not sure just what you will find or if you will come across anything you might need help with because of not being spoken.

 

Also, get the unchecky utility.  It doesn't know about all unwanted programs installed with a lot of free software but it will alert you to a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation.  You may not have an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more important to blind users.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

 

hi

Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll get the following additional software

avast antivirus

bite fence antimalware

chromium

advanced pc care

stack player

and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem to click or simulate a left click on the  uninstall button, NVDA can't seem to route the mouse pointer to the  uninstall button using the caps lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed. Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop to such a tactic. I'm not  annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played around with it.

Thanks

Kendell Clark

 

 

On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Kendell,

 

Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list!

 

CDex is a popular CD ripper: http://cdex.mu/  It looks up freedb and others (you can set the one you want).  I must admit I always just rip to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it.  Just looking at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other formats.

 

I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm afraid.

 

I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than they solve.  Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a lot more autonomously than it used to.  Sometimes it is worth double checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the manufacturer's website.

 

I'm not sure about that file error you're getting.  AMD will be your processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure.  Is anything happening immediately prior to it crashing?  I did a google search on the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is, it's evidently not overly common.

 

Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it.  The popular browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with one than the other.  Internet Explorer still works and still comes with Windows, even Windows 10.  If you are on Windows 10, we do support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick with one of the others for the most part.

 

If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a standalone one: http://www.jarte.com/  otherwise, LibreOffice is a full office suite: http://libreoffice.org/

 

If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is available for Windows as well: http://www.audacityteam.org/

 

I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter anything else you need help or a recommendation on.


Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@... <coffeekingms@...> wrote:

hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux,  to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why  and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds  of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark





 

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Re: NVDA 2017.1 RC1

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

   Hello!

Many thanks for the direct link!

Georgi


На 15.2.2017 г. в 10:50 ч., Quentin Christensen написа:

Hi Dennis,


Sorry I was a bit slow with the e-mail going out today!  Highlights of this release include reporting of sections and text columns in Microsoft Word; Support for reading, navigating and annotating books in Kindle for PC; and improved support for Microsoft Edge.



On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:
Awesome!  What is new for this version?

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of "*
Wagner Soares Da Silva *
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.1 RC1

Hello, the NVDA 2017.1 release Candidate is now available.

Direct link:

http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.1rc1/nvda_2017.1rc1.exe

Grande Abraço, Wagner.

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Thanks I am indeed running the anniversary version of Windows.

Don H
 

On 2/15/2017 9:01 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Typed characters: are you running Anniversary Update? The typed characters issue was fixed in recent Windows Insider builds, and will make its appearance as part of Creators Update in a few weeks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Edge browser

Have installed the 2017 RC1 of NVDA and am trying out the Edge browser.
when Edge is started you are on a edit box to enter a web address or search term. When I type here NVDA does not echo the characters being typed. Is there a setting to be changed or way to setup Edge to resolve this issue?
Thanks






Re: NVDA with Edge browser

 

Hi,
Typed characters: are you running Anniversary Update? The typed characters issue was fixed in recent Windows Insider builds, and will make its appearance as part of Creators Update in a few weeks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Edge browser

Have installed the 2017 RC1 of NVDA and am trying out the Edge browser.
when Edge is started you are on a edit box to enter a web address or search term. When I type here NVDA does not echo the characters being typed. Is there a setting to be changed or way to setup Edge to resolve this issue?
Thanks


NVDA with Edge browser

Don H
 

Have installed the 2017 RC1 of NVDA and am trying out the Edge browser. when Edge is started you are on a edit box to enter a web address or search term. When I type here NVDA does not echo the characters being typed. Is there a setting to be changed or way to setup Edge to resolve this issue?
Thanks


Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Brice Mijares
 

About ten years ago I used add and remove to uninstall an anti virus program and as I was installing the new virus program, I received a message stating something about it detected a virus program on my system and if I remember correctly, the installation was
aborted. Thats when I learned about uninstall tools.


Re: Bard Express with NVDA2017.1 RC?

 

This is a bard express design issue. It is not an NVDA issue. send feedback to the bard express team.


Bard Express with NVDA2017.1 RC?

Gerardo Corripio
 

For anyone using Bard Express with NVDA 2017.1 rc, are the lists still truncated? in case the NVDA devs can fix this annoyance before the final NVDA2017.1 release that is.


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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Gene
 

When I've looked at instructions for two or three programs, they tell you that you can often remove the program using Add/Remove programs.  This or that program may not like traces of another program that may be left in this way but I've only heard of one such program and I've uninstalled and installed four or five antivirus programs with no conflicts.  My impression is that oftenb tools require the user to do something that requires sighted help such as fill in a captcha.  I try the easiest possibility first. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

In the past whenever I'm removing an anti virus program I first search
for a removal tool for the specific virus program. This way you'll have
no conflicts with new virus software.

On 2/14/2017 9:04 PM, Gene wrote:
> To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS demo.  then uninstall
> it from programs and features.  Clidck the remove button with the space
> bar.  When you do so dialogs will come up or something like dialogs.
> they won't be quite like dialogs because they will be the Avast
> installer.  Tab through them and see what you want to do.  I'm not sure
> just what you will find or if you will come across anything you might
> need help with because of not being spoken.
>
> Also, get the unchecky utility.  It doesn't know about all unwanted
> programs installed with a lot of free software but it will alert you to
> a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation.  You may not have
> an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more
> important to blind users.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* coffeekingms@... <mailto:coffeekingms@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections
>
> hi
>
> Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software
> using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do
> install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option
> to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible
> way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll
> get the following additional software
>
> avast antivirus
>
> bite fence antimalware
>
> chromium
>
> advanced pc care
>
> stack player
>
> and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default
> browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem
> to click or simulate a left click on the  uninstall button, NVDA can't
> seem to route the mouse pointer to the  uninstall button using the caps
> lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed.
> Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of
> software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop
> to such a tactic. I'm not  annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make
> that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome
> and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played
> around with it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kendell Clark
>
>
>
> On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>> Hi Kendell,
>>
>> Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list!
>>
>> CDex is a popular CD ripper: http://cdex.mu/  It looks up freedb and
>> others (you can set the one you want).  I must admit I always just rip
>> to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it.  Just looking
>> at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other
>> formats.
>>
>> I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm
>> afraid.
>>
>> I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what
>> they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than
>> they solve.  Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a
>> lot more autonomously than it used to.  Sometimes it is worth double
>> checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly
>> for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the
>> manufacturer's website.
>>
>> I'm not sure about that file error you're getting.  AMD will be your
>> processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you
>> seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure.  Is anything
>> happening immediately prior to it crashing?  I did a google search on
>> the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is,
>> it's evidently not overly common.
>>
>> Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works
>> fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it.  The popular
>> browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth
>> keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with
>> one than the other.  Internet Explorer still works and still comes
>> with Windows, even Windows 10.  If you are on Windows 10, we do
>> support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick
>> with one of the others for the most part.
>>
>> If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS
>> Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a
>> standalone one: http://www.jarte.com/  otherwise, LibreOffice is a
>> full office suite: http://libreoffice.org/
>>
>> If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is
>> available for Windows as well: http://www.audacityteam.org/
>>
>> I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but
>> all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter
>> anything else you need help or a recommendation on.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@...
>> <mailto:coffeekingms@...> <coffeekingms@...
>> <mailto:coffeekingms@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     hi all
>>
>>     I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
>>     specifically sonar gnu linux,  to windows 10 full time. There are many
>>     reasons why  and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong
>>     list,
>>     but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
>>     prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
>>     speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
>>     point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible,
>>     software
>>     to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide
>>     a list.
>>
>>     A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
>>     if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
>>     since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
>>     rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't
>>     care for
>>     mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
>>     Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
>>     possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
>>     and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
>>     manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3,
>>     m4b, etc
>>     files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format
>>     factory
>>     and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle
>>     opus so I
>>     may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
>>     software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
>>     last.fm <http://last.fm>? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd
>>     like to start, assuming
>>     spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent
>>     software.
>>     I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very
>>     accessible.
>>     I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
>>     Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
>>     torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as
>>     vinux and
>>     fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
>>     these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
>>     screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
>>     driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
>>     Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
>>     nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
>>     want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
>>     own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
>>     say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
>>     with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
>>     pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
>>     extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are
>>     there
>>     good ways of avoiding these kinds  of things? I'm new to windows after
>>     being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time
>>     windows
>>     user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help
>>     again.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Kendell Clark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training Material Developer
>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
>> available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
>> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>



Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Brice Mijares
 

In the past whenever I'm removing an anti virus program I first search for a removal tool for the specific virus program. This way you'll have no conflicts with new virus software.

On 2/14/2017 9:04 PM, Gene wrote:
To uninstall Avast, use JAWS, you can use a JAWS demo. then uninstall
it from programs and features. Clidck the remove button with the space
bar. When you do so dialogs will come up or something like dialogs.
they won't be quite like dialogs because they will be the Avast
installer. Tab through them and see what you want to do. I'm not sure
just what you will find or if you will come across anything you might
need help with because of not being spoken.

Also, get the unchecky utility. It doesn't know about all unwanted
programs installed with a lot of free software but it will alert you to
a good deal and allow you to avoid the installation. You may not have
an accessible way to avoid such installations so uncheckie is more
important to blind users.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* coffeekingms@... <mailto:coffeekingms@...>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:51 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

hi

Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software
using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do
install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option
to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible
way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll
get the following additional software

avast antivirus

bite fence antimalware

chromium

advanced pc care

stack player

and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default
browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem
to click or simulate a left click on the uninstall button, NVDA can't
seem to route the mouse pointer to the uninstall button using the caps
lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed.
Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of
software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop
to such a tactic. I'm not annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make
that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome
and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played
around with it.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Kendell,

Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list!

CDex is a popular CD ripper: http://cdex.mu/ It looks up freedb and
others (you can set the one you want). I must admit I always just rip
to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it. Just looking
at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other
formats.

I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm
afraid.

I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what
they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than
they solve. Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a
lot more autonomously than it used to. Sometimes it is worth double
checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly
for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the
manufacturer's website.

I'm not sure about that file error you're getting. AMD will be your
processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you
seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure. Is anything
happening immediately prior to it crashing? I did a google search on
the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is,
it's evidently not overly common.

Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works
fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it. The popular
browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth
keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with
one than the other. Internet Explorer still works and still comes
with Windows, even Windows 10. If you are on Windows 10, we do
support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick
with one of the others for the most part.

If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS
Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a
standalone one: http://www.jarte.com/ otherwise, LibreOffice is a
full office suite: http://libreoffice.org/

If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is
available for Windows as well: http://www.audacityteam.org/

I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but
all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter
anything else you need help or a recommendation on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@...
<mailto:coffeekingms@...> <coffeekingms@...
<mailto:coffeekingms@...>> wrote:

hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong
list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible,
software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide
a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't
care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3,
m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format
factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle
opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm <http://last.fm>? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd
like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent
software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very
accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as
vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are
there
good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time
windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help
again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark








--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Re: new to windows, need help with software selections

Gene
 

I experimented further and this time, I didn't see any meaningful text nor the check box unless I clicked on the text I did see when I moved into the object.  It was only something like two words before I clicked.  Afterwords, everything was readable.  I'm not sure what is occurring but it's interesting how difficult it is to see the text and checkbox. 
 
Also, I tried running the installer while not connected to the Internet.  The install additional software part of the installation was completely skipped.  Does that mean that it truly is skipped or does it mean that when running the program for the first time, it will offer to install software again?  I'll let others experiment, if interested.  But disconnecting from the Internet may cause many instances where programs want to install software not to function.  I don't know if it does or if it just delays the attempted installation but it's something people may want to experiment with.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

I just experimented with the installer again.  I found that the check box is visible, along with information about what will be installed by using object navigation.  You have to go farther in the structure than you would probably expect.  Once I was in the dialog, I then moved to the next object the child object, if that is the correct term, in the dialog.  I there found text about what would be installed and a checkbox to uncheck.  I suspect JAWS can find this information as well using their new navigation feature.  I read about it awhile ago and it is intended as a means to navigate touch interfaces but I've seen on this list that it is roughly the equivalent of NVDA's object navigation. 
 
Using NVDA b in NVDA didn't read the information.  For technical reasons I don't know or understand, at times NVDA b won't read information you can see by using object navigation and moving into certain deeper objects.
Then there are times when NVDA key b will read information that is difficult to find manually. Note that I'm not talking about using review mode.  I'm talking about using object navigation.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

The program didn't used to include unwanted programs.  I didn't install it today but I was curious what was displayed in the preinstallation dialogs so I went through them up to the point where other programs were offered.  To the credit of the CDEX designers, you are clearly told that other programs will be installed, though not in that language.  The installer doesn't try to sneak the other programs by without you noticing as is often the case unless you are very carefull about reading all installation dialogs thoroughly.  But whatever means are offered to opt out are not seen by screen-readers.  I saw on the page where you download the program that a portable version is offered.  The portable, version, according to a comment I've seen on another list, doesn't include any potentially unwanted programs. Therefore, those wanting to use the newest version of CDEX may try the portable version.   
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new to windows, need help with software selections

Eek!  Sorry!  I haven't installed from scratch for awhile clearly and didn't remember that or I definitely would have warned you!

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:51 PM, coffeekingms@... <coffeekingms@...> wrote:

hi

Thanks for all your suggestions. I just installed the cdex software using the link you provided. As a warning to all of you, if you do install this software, you might need sighted help to uncheck the option to install recommended software, because there seems to be no accssible way to decline it. If you do install the cd ripper as it wants, you'll get the following additional software

avast antivirus

bite fence antimalware

chromium

advanced pc care

stack player

and your homepage will be set to yahoo web search in your default browser. I'm still puzzling over how to remove avast, since I can't seem to click or simulate a left click on the  uninstall button, NVDA can't seem to route the mouse pointer to the  uninstall button using the caps lock plus kp devide shortcut, but the others were easily removed. Despite all of this, I like cdex. I don't like the sneaky bundling of software, and I'm rather shocked that open source software would stoop to such a tactic. I'm not  annoyed at anyone hear though, I want to make that clear but at the extra installations. I am going to install chrome and try it out, since I did like chromium in the few minutes I played around with it.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 2/14/2017 9:32 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Kendell,

Welcome to Windows, and to the NVDA list!

CDex is a popular CD ripper: http://cdex.mu/  It looks up freedb and others (you can set the one you want).  I must admit I always just rip to MP3 so I haven't looked into other formats with it.  Just looking at the features, you can set it to use OGG, FLAC, AAC, WMA and other formats.

I'm not as familiar with downloading videos, or torrent programs I'm afraid.

I tend to steer clear of driver downloaders - you just don't know what they are downloading and I think most of them cause more problems than they solve.  Mostly I let Windows manage drivers and it does do this a lot more autonomously than it used to.  Sometimes it is worth double checking you are using the manufacturer's driver, though, particularly for audio and video drivers and in that case, I usually go to the manufacturer's website.

I'm not sure about that file error you're getting.  AMD will be your processor and sys means it's a system file, possibly a driver, as you seem to have guessed, but beyond that, I'm not sure.  Is anything happening immediately prior to it crashing?  I did a google search on the filename and got nothing (5 unrelated results) so whatever it is, it's evidently not overly common.

Speaking of the Chrome browser, you'll actually find that it works fairly well with NVDA if you do choose to install it.  The popular browser with NVDA has traditionally been Firefox, but it can be worth keeping Chrome around just for the odd website that works better with one than the other.  Internet Explorer still works and still comes with Windows, even Windows 10.  If you are on Windows 10, we do support the new browser "Edge", though personally, I'd still stick with one of the others for the most part.

If you are after a word processor that isn't Microsoft Office (MS Office works well with NVDA, but you asked about free), Jarte is a standalone one: http://www.jarte.com/  otherwise, LibreOffice is a full office suite: http://libreoffice.org/

If you used Audacity for audio editing on Linux, you'll find it is available for Windows as well: http://www.audacityteam.org/

I can't think of what else to recommend off the top of my head, but all the best with your migration and do let us know if you encounter anything else you need help or a recommendation on.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, coffeekingms@... <coffeekingms@...> wrote:
hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux,  to windows 10 full time. There are many
reasons why  and I won't go into them hear since this is the wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi, the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify, pandora and
last.fm? I don't use any of these yet, but I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles. Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds  of things? I'm new to windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark








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