Hi there,
I used to do graphic design before I lost my sight and used both indesign
and quark.
They are both very graphical user interfaces.
I cant say that I have played with them and nvda,
But I cant imagin it very easy.
Why not use something like Microsoft word, or a word processor instead

is not near as graphical.
Let me know if I can help any other way.
Rich

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SHARMA
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adobe in Design

Hi everyone,

I'm doing a journalism course and am encouraged to learn to work with
adobe in design. Has anyone tried working on it with NVDA and if it is
possible to do so?
It is used to design layouts for newspapers. Also there's quarkXPress
that we use for designing.
Do tell me if it's not appropriate for this list.

Cheers

Mayank

Hi there,
I used to do graphic design before I lost my sight and used both indesign and quark.
They are both very graphical user interfaces.
I cant say that I have played with them and nvda,
But I cant imagin it very easy.
Why not use something like Microsoft word, or a word processor instead that is not near as graphical.
Let me know if I can help any other way.
Rich

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Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Adobe in Design

Hi everyone,

I'm doing a journalism course and am encouraged to learn to work with
adobe in design. Has anyone tried working on it with NVDA and if it is
possible to do so?
It is used to design layouts for newspapers. Also there's quarkXPress
that we use for designing.
Do tell me if it's not appropriate for this list.

Cheers

Mayank

Hi Gary,

I must admit I haven't been using the mail app much. I just had a look and
found a couple of times it opened the message and I had to press NVDA+down
arrow to read, but most time (even on the same messages), it read fine.

Would love to get some more info if anyone else is experiencing this (or
not) and particularly if anyone can better pin down exactly when it does
and doesn't read automatically?

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 6:13 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

Hi All,

I just updated to nvda 2017.rc1. I am using wlm as my mail client. It
used to be when I open a message I would hit the up arrow key and nvda
would start reading the message. Now, I have to hit the key for it to read
the message. Also I hear the word pane is this the way it will be? Thanks
for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox

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I noticed the section in word, but the next question has to be, what is
the significance of sections. Most files I seem to get have one section
containing everything!
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.1 RC1


Hi Dennis,


Sorry I was a bit slow with the e-mail going out today! Highlights of this
release include reporting of sections and text columns in Microsoft Word;
Support for reading, navigating and annotating books in Kindle for PC; and
improved support for Microsoft Edge.


https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-1rc1-released/

On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@gmail.com> wrote:

Awesome! What is new for this version?

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 2:34 AM
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.1 RC1

Hello, the NVDA 2017.1 release Candidate is now available.

Direct link:

http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.1rc1/nvda_2017.1rc1.exe

Grande Abraço, Wagner.

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Hi,

A lot of people have said NVDA's touch mode is far from perfect at this
point. I have never tried it and don't own a machine with a touchscreen.
However, you are correct in assuming that Windows tablets typically have
the same processor and versions of Windows. Just watch out for the ones
running Windows RT, as that is completely different and will only run
universal apps. Anything else is fine.


As for Windows vs. Linux vs. Mac OS, I personally think the whole idea
of attacking one operating system is idiotic. Everyone has their
problems with various ones. Each OS has things it does well, and things
it doesn't. I personally feel extremely efficient and productive on a
Windows machine, and I always get a bit ruffled when someone tells me I
could be working so much more efficiently in something I've already
decided is less so. I love tinkering with things and Linux is great for
that, but the machine I tinker with needs to be separate from the one I
use for school, work, communication, research, social networking, etc.
It sounds like Linux GUI accessibility is great in some areas and shotty
in others, and some people are willing to overlook the problems because
of the open source aspect of Linux. Either way, it's glad to see a list
where that doesn't happen constantly.


On 2017-02-15 1:53, coffeekingms@hotmail.com wrote:

hi

For some reason, restarting nvda allowed the mouse pointer to be
routed to the uninstall control, which didn't have a role nvda
recognized. Man avast is whiny when you go to remove it. Please please
please please please don't uninstall me. What's interesting is the
CDEX is gplv3 open source software, but either the installer isn't or
it is and the CDEX people haven't tried modifying it. If it bundles
stuff, it probably isn't because they wouldn't want to open that. I've
never heard of this golden cursor, but I think it's an NVDA addon you
can install. I'll try nvda+kp enter, I wonder what that does. I use
the desktop keyboard layout, so that might be the laptop equivalent.
While I'm on the subject, if I were to buy a windows tablet would NVDA
switch seemlessly between keyboard and touch input modes? It's one
thing I've been wanting for a while, since I don't really seem to
like android. Nothing against android whatsoever, but I just can't
seem to get the hang of it. Plus, if I had a windows tablet I could
mud from my swing out in the yard, and watch my video game
walkthroughs from anywhere. My laptop currently has no battery in it
so it might as well be a desktop. The problem is, windows tablets are
not cheap, but an 80 dollar windows tablet and a cheap bluetooth
keyboard would be fantastic. I'm going to assume that windows tablets
are x64 and not ARM? In plain english, they have the same or similar
hardware parts as a normal desktop or laptop computer would have plus
a touch screen, instead of parts a smartphone would have in them,
because windows as far as I know does not yet support that type of
machine, at least it didn't last I looked. Better stop there, I'll
change the subject so people don't get confused.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



On 2/15/2017 3:24 AM, Simon Jaeger wrote:

Glad to hear CDex is still being updated, but I definitely feel your
pain on the annoyingly inaccessible installers. The problem is that
the CDex developers can do absolutely nothing about it, because the
installer is created by a third party developer. I have managed to
get NVDA to uncheck those options in the past, but I now don't
remember how. Something about golden cursor and simulated mouse
movement. Also, while we're on the subject, did you ever try
switching to object review and doing an NVDA+enter on the uninstall
button? No point installing a whole JAWS demo if you can make it work
another way. If you route the mouse with mouse tracking enabled, and
you don't hear the name of the button spoken, it is possible that
NVDA doesn't actually know where the button is. This can sometimes
happen if you're using object navigation keystrokes but you're in
screen review mode, for instance.

It looks like Dropbox has decided that my link to a piece of free
software is in fact a violation of copyright law. Fantastic logical
deduction. I put UTorrent 3.2.1 in an encrypted zip file. The
password is utorrent:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1689280/software/utorrent.zip


On 2017-02-15 1:12, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Simon,

Re CDex,

The latest stable version is 1.82, released on 21st December 2016.
It definitely works on Windows 10 although it still has much the
same interface it has had for about as long as I've used it.

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Simon Jaeger <simon@simonj.me
<mailto:simon@simonj.me>> wrote:

Hi,

If you were much of a command-line Linux user, you might want to
check out Windows 10 bash:

http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/
<http://www.howtogeek.com/249966/how-to-install-and-use-the-linux-bash-shell-on-windows-10/>;


YoutubeDLG is what I use for my videos. You can set some options
in preferences according to whether you want to convert to audio
and keep the video. You can also put custom command line
parameters into its configuration which will get passed to
youtube-dl directly. Personally, I keep the "convert to audio"
checkbox unchecked, and add a -x to the command line parameters
so that the original format gets preserved in the case of aac or
opus audio. This depends entirely on whether you want to keep
the video though.

CDex is definitely good, though I don't know if it's updated for
Windows 10. It was the first ripper I ever used and worked until
I decided to just use GoldWave's internal converter.

For torrenting, I use UTorrent, but a much older version
(3.2.1). I don't know off hand where one can download this, so
if you trust a google search more than a random stranger on a
mailing list, feel free to find your own download. However, this
is my copy and it's running well on two of my machines:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1689280/software/utorrent.exe
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1689280/software/utorrent.exe>;

A few people talked about driveragent being good, but it's not
free. However, I was told it was 30 to 40 dollars for up to 10
machines. If that's your thing, give it a try. I'm also told the
free version will tell you which drivers you need, but will not
download them automatically. Don't quote me on either of those
things.

I'm sure people out here have good suggestions of audio
converters. I don't personally have any, as I once again use
GoldWave's batch converter most of the time. If I don't, I use
the one built into Foobar2000, which also works well in certain
cases.


Good luck. Feel free to share any discoveries you make as well.


Simon






On 2017-02-14 19:04, coffeekingms@hotmail.com
<mailto:coffeekingms@hotmail.com> wrote:

hi all

I'm a bit ashamed to say this, but I've just switched from
linux,
specifically sonar gnu linux, to windows 10 full time.
There are many
reasons why and I won't go into them hear since this is the
wrong list,
but the windows blind community is just friendlier and much
much less
prone to judge people based on what software they want to
use, what
speech voice they want to use and so on. I was hoping you
guys could
point me to some free as in price, and open source if
possible, software
to do the things I've gotten used to doing in linux. I'll
provide a list.

A cd ripper, preferably one that can look up info on cd
databases, and
if such a thing exists, one that can look up data on
audiobook cd's,
since the ones available for linux can't. It would be nice
if it could
rip to opus or ogg vorbis files, preferably both, since I
don't care for
mp3 and use free to use media formats like ogg or opus for
everything.
Something that can download videos from youtube, entire
playlists if
possible. I've found youtube dl gui for this, but it leaves
the video
and audio tracks separate, instead of combining them so I
have to
manuallt delete them. An audio converter, so I can convert
mp3, m4b, etc
files into the formats I prefer to use. I've come across
format factory
and already wrote about it hear, but it doesn't seem to
handle opus so I
may need to use something else. I've just discovered kodi,
the htpc
software. Can it handle using services such as spotify,
pandora and
last.fm <http://last.fm>;? I don't use any of these yet, but
I'd like to start, assuming
spotify and pandora are still free to use. Accessible
torrent software.
I've been usint q bittorrent, and it is usable but not very
accessible.
I want torrent software for legal things, not the pirate bay
and such.
Even though I'm no longer using sonar I still want to
support it's
torrent seeds, as well as other linux distro torrents such
as vinux and
fedora. Is there a good free program to keep drivers up to
date? If
these are still needed. My computer is experiencing frequent
bugcheck
screens from something called amdkfb.sys, and I thought
maybe a free
driver updater would download an updated driver that would
fix it.
Something that doesn't nag you to upgrade to a pro version
would be
nice, and that can be run portable would be even better, but
I don't
want to be picky. I'm only asking for all of these instead
of doing my
own research because I'm frequently lead around in circles.
Sites that
say a piece of software is free, when what they mean is free
but comes
with extra stuff, free trial, or not free at all and they
want you to
pay for it. Driver updaters that aren't accessible and often
install
extras, such as pc care, pc cleaners, and the chrome
browser. Are there
good ways of avoiding these kinds of things? I'm new to
windows after
being in linux for five years so I might as well be a first
time windows
user. Thanks for any help, I'll try not to ask for this much
help again.

Thanks

Kendell Clark












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Yeah but if they are that old then I agree.
I was working with ccleaner and a few apps, suddenly I get messages after updating windows that they will not work because they are to old.
If you are still using that program from 1995 then you may have to upgrade it sooner or later and that may be the time to look for an alternit.
And back up your data on your cloud or a drive I do that for my critical things.
Unless your data is an executable, chances that if they are text or standard doc files they won't be touched and if its just data files windows does not recognise its not going to factor it into anything they may need updating themselves though.


On 16/02/2017 7:10 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:

Will we be all forced to get creators update? I ask as the last time
for anniversary update several older 32 bit slightly modified bits of
software were removed and could not be put back without losing data,
though they still worked. it would be really nice if there could be a
prompt from the updating software saying these programs will be removed.
If you want to preserve them click here but they may or may not funtion
after the update.
To just unilaterally proclaim its old and hence junk is a little on the
draconian side. This affects Outlook express and some others I may have
forgotten about. However they nearly always still work OK if you put
them back but lose the liinks to their data.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Edge browser


Hi,
Typed characters: are you running Anniversary Update? The typed
characters issue was fixed in recent Windows Insider builds, and will
make its appearance as part of Creators Update in a few weeks.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Edge browser

Have installed the 2017 RC1 of NVDA and am trying out the Edge browser.
when Edge is started you are on a edit box to enter a web address or
search term. When I type here NVDA does not echo the characters being
typed. Is there a setting to be changed or way to setup Edge to resolve
this issue?
Thanks

thank you!

cheers.

Hi everyone,

 

The latest instalment of "In-Process", the NV Access blog is now available.  As well as information about our audio training material and our upcoming trip to CSUN, the big news this week is, of course, the release of 2017.1rc1.  To accompany that announcement, I thought it was a great chance to share with you just what "rc" means and a little of the journey a new NVDA feature or fix takes from being reported, through to when it makes it into a final stable release.  Happy reading!:

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-feb-2017/

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Hi everyone,

The latest instalment of "In-Process", the NV Access blog is now available.  As well as information about our audio training material and our upcoming trip to CSUN, the big news this week is, of course, the release of 2017.1rc1.  To accompany that announcement, I thought it was a great chance to share with you just what "rc" means and a little of the journey a new NVDA feature or fix takes from being reported, through to when it makes it into a final stable release.  Happy reading!:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-feb-2017/

Regards

Quentin.

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Hi all,

I was trying to teach adding of bullets on the fly and NVDA will not

Speak that there is  a bullet.

I have tried with most and all punctuation selected and the result is the same.  I also looked under “document formatting” and could find anything that would make this type of symbol be announced.

Does anyone else have this issue and if so can it be changed?

Thanks for your help.

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In Excel 2013 the command is the one you refered, Shift+F2.

Rui

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De: 蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
Data: 16 de fevereiro de 2017 02:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [NVDA] Excel command: shift+f2 edit comment



Hi all,
If anyone use Excel2013 or higher version? How to edit comment?

Here is part of quote from issue 2920 comment10:



To allow for full reading and editing of comments in all versions of MS
Excel, we will go with an NVDA-specific comment editing dialog which will
pop up when pressing shift+f2. But even if we were to improve access to
Excel in comment editing mode, we can only do this for Excel 2010 and below

as Excel 2013 stops exposing text via GDI yet does not provide a UI
automation implementation for comment editing.



Another issue is that shift+f2 is a Excel command, so it does not include in

Commands Quick Reference.
I need to get the info from “what’s new_2014.3”.



Microsoft Excel: Provide an NVDA-specific dialog to edit the comments on the

currently selected cell when pressing Excel’s shift+f2 command to enter
comment editing mode. #2920



And get “report command” from Quick Reference.



To report any comments for the currently focused cell, press NVDA+alt+c.



Thanks.

Regards,
Victor Cai