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Re: Roman algarisms

Quentin Christensen
 

Which synthesizer are you using?  This is set by the synth rather than by NVDA itself.

You could override it in NVDA using the speech dictionary, however, you would need to account for any possible Roman numeral.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
You know brian this is not really an nvda issue, I had this back in the dos days to, if I assigned something to a dictionary for example a roman numeral or a scientiffic symbol then that would be used for everything.
I think the main dictionary should be locked and have nothing like abreviations etc assigned to it, it sould just be a blank with only words in it and such not short hand.
For extras needing it, you would have either downloadable or installed dictionaries for that, you would have to make profiles using such dictionaries, another way  to get rid of user clutter for example would certain programs using certain dictionaries, a math program would use a different dictionary a language program would use its own or a different one.
And of cause youcould as a user use symbols from where ever you wanted but its still to complex even then.
Unless you could tell the dictionary yourself I don't see any way round this.



On 21/02/2017 7:38 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I brought this up recently and got no reply to it.
Its really annoying as the X factor becomes the roman 10 factor and VI
Parliament becomes roman 6 parliament.
Very irritating.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Roman algarisms


Hi,
How can i instruct NVDA to announce "DI" as "D" "I" instead of 501 and
"CDI" as "C" "D" "I" instead of 401?
Or, still better, how can  I set NVDA to forget roman numbers altogether?









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Re: Sapi5 questions

Tyler Spivey
 

For the second issue, check out Switch Synth, available on the add-ons site.

On 2/20/2017 10:53 AM, Anne Günther wrote:
Hi
I thought about switching to sapi5 as speech engine.
But i have the following problems:
1.: Since german is my first language, I have the automatic language
recognition switched on. Unfortunately the voice switching doesn't seem
to work.
2nd: When I.m switching voices manually, the other one goes back to it's
original settings.
Are these things that just are, or is there something I can do about it?
regards, Guenni
Re: Sapi5 questions

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Guenni,

eSpeak and I think Vocalizer are the only synthesizers that I know of that support automatic language switching at this time.

For the second issue, there is an issue open in our system for this here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6615

If you log in to GitHub or create an account, you can subscribe an be notified of progress of this if you are interested.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Anne Günther <ag82lca@...> wrote:
Hi
I thought about switching to sapi5 as speech engine.
But i have the following problems:
1.: Since german is my first language, I have the automatic language recognition switched on. Unfortunately the voice switching doesn't seem to work.
2nd: When I.m switching voices manually, the other one goes back to it's original settings.
Are these things that just are, or is there something I can do about it?
regards, Guenni







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Re: Roman algarisms

Shaun Everiss
 

You know brian this is not really an nvda issue, I had this back in the dos days to, if I assigned something to a dictionary for example a roman numeral or a scientiffic symbol then that would be used for everything.
I think the main dictionary should be locked and have nothing like abreviations etc assigned to it, it sould just be a blank with only words in it and such not short hand.
For extras needing it, you would have either downloadable or installed dictionaries for that, you would have to make profiles using such dictionaries, another way to get rid of user clutter for example would certain programs using certain dictionaries, a math program would use a different dictionary a language program would use its own or a different one.
And of cause youcould as a user use symbols from where ever you wanted but its still to complex even then.
Unless you could tell the dictionary yourself I don't see any way round this.

On 21/02/2017 7:38 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I brought this up recently and got no reply to it.
Its really annoying as the X factor becomes the roman 10 factor and VI
Parliament becomes roman 6 parliament.
Very irritating.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io"
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Roman algarisms


Hi,
How can i instruct NVDA to announce "DI" as "D" "I" instead of 501 and
"CDI" as "C" "D" "I" instead of 401?
Or, still better, how can I set NVDA to forget roman numbers altogether?






.
Sapi5 questions

Anne Günther
 

Hi
I thought about switching to sapi5 as speech engine.
But i have the following problems:
1.: Since german is my first language, I have the automatic language recognition switched on. Unfortunately the voice switching doesn't seem to work.
2nd: When I.m switching voices manually, the other one goes back to it's original settings.
Are these things that just are, or is there something I can do about it?
regards, Guenni
Re: strange issue that I can't run down.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Or use a completely different synth.Myself if the game is indeed self voicing then can you not do a profile that turns off nvda when its running?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange issue that I can't run down.


yeah think I know that might have happened. sound card was working could hear the moderator tell me that he had cleared me. when I hit alt plus ctrl plus delete espeak worked. I think the kitchen game which uses sappi five voices and NVDA which is using dectalk also as a sappi five may have conflicted I had a similar issue when they were both using the same voice but not with two different voices. I also know that at least one other member of that regular chat is using NVDA but not sure if he is using the same voice on both. he is using a different language on the regular NVDA than what kitchen golf uses one day we were playing and one player noticed some extra verbiage. he has his NVDA set for spanish when he hit the space bar to make a shot the voice said Espacio will have to see if he's ever run into the same issue. the rest of the group is using jaws so there is likely no conflict. think what I'll try is toggle speech off in NVDA and see if it happens again.
Re: Lines with unknown characters aren't spoken

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This normally occurs if the voice or synth in use has no definition for those characters in my experience.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Günther" <ag82lca@leseguenni.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Lines with unknown characters aren't spoken


Hi
This might be already a well-known problem, but here goes anyway.
When scrolling through line by line, lines that contain unknown character symbols aren't spoken at all.
That usually concerns lines with emojies.
Any suggestions what to do about that?
I'm using nvda 2016.4 and windows1-0.
Guenni
Re: strange issue that I can't run down.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So what exactly stopped. Ie If you blindly opened something or went to desktop did the nvda still work?
I do not knoow the game or its keystrokes but you can easily mute the nvda output with certain key combinations and if these are used in the game its always going to occur.
I think more info is definitely needed on what stopped and did it stop everywhere or just in the application you were in, and also was it a crash or just the output was switched off in the session.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 7:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] strange issue that I can't run down.


Hi list ken here something very very frustrating happened today during a voicechat. was playing golf with the jim kitchen games during a hole in fact as the voice was speaking telling me how far to shoot all at once it stopped talking in mid sentence no sound came out. at first thought my speaker had died but when switched off no sound out of the headset. my microphone was keyed everything was running. when my key was cleared heard the moderator say he had cleared me I heard his voice. in other words everything was working. I had to sign out and sign back in. NVDA the kiteche game and talking communities were all operating. signed out signed back in and thanks to my computer ken shoots a zero on golf today my game was lost on the signout. so what happened everything was working and microphone was keyed and I could still hear sounds. is it NVDA is it the soundcard is it an update needed on the soundcard
Re: Roman algarisms

Gene
 

Maybe you can do it properly with regular expressions in the speech dictionary.  I'm not sure you can do it without using regular expressions. 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Roman algarisms

I brought this up recently and got no reply to it.
 Its really annoying as the X factor becomes the roman 10 factor and VI
Parliament becomes roman 6 parliament.
 Very irritating.
 Brian

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From: "Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io" <wsautodidata@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Roman algarisms


> Hi,
> How can i instruct NVDA to announce "DI" as "D" "I" instead of 501 and
> "CDI" as "C" "D" "I" instead of 401?
> Or, still better, how can  I set NVDA to forget roman numbers altogether?
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Shut Down, etc

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Don't you have to join the insiders program for this sort of interaction?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


Hello,

Having got sighted help, it seems that the keyboard will not move down
to the power button, two keyboards have been tried, theis used to work
for me when I first got "10, so it seems that it is a Microsoft issue,
not NVDA, having tried with Jaws the same thing is evident, the mouse
can operate the power button.

It's alright to use alt F4 etc, but this issue needs to be sorted, where
will it end otherwise? What other keystrokes will disappear in the
updates that Microsoft make? sighted people use the keyboard as well.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Microsoft and get some
response? I could stand outside the back door and shout I suppose,
[lol].



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

I agree. There do seem to be, from the sighted point of view, quite a
lot of
options on screen we cannot get at aas a mouse user can. Not sure if
this
was some deliberate act or just an oversight in design, but the alt/f4
is my
preferred method. However the next snap seems to have issues sometimes
with
both this menu and some context menus and the nvda menu. A reboot of
nvda
seems to restore the menus.
Sadly nobody else could duplicate this problem and I have my suspicions
that its some software I run that cocks up nvda next.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


I use the alt F-4 method of shutting down. Both alt F-4 and windows x
are
fast.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

In Windows 10 that don't work.

windows+X can be a good alternative.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: P. Otter
Data: 16 de fevereiro de 2017 21:30
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


hello ralf,
when you're in the desktop, press the windows key.
after that press 2 times uparrow.
you hear shutdown or something, press enter there.
now you can make the choice restart or close the computer or the
sleepmode.
succes!
paul o


----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Boersema
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


Dear Folks,



My Windows 10 went through some kind of update and now my NVDA cannot
access
the Power button for shutting down or restarting, etc. I open the Start
menu, using the Windows key, then go to Navegation, using the tab key.
With
the down arrow I get down to the User Account button, but then it won’t
continue down to the Power button. Any suggestions?



Ralph
Re: Roman algarisms

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I brought this up recently and got no reply to it.
Its really annoying as the X factor becomes the roman 10 factor and VI Parliament becomes roman 6 parliament.
Very irritating.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] Roman algarisms


Hi,
How can i instruct NVDA to announce "DI" as "D" "I" instead of 501 and "CDI" as "C" "D" "I" instead of 401?
Or, still better, how can I set NVDA to forget roman numbers altogether?
Re: Accessible HTML CSS Javascript editors.

Nika Tsiklauri
 

Hi! I am interested how to create the autocompletion file for notepad++? I am interested in that, because sometimes it is not doing what I want it to do. If there's some way to do it, please send me the material or instructions on how to do it. I have the exam soon and it would be great if I solve this problem before exam comes.
Thanks in advance.

On 20.02.2017 19:29, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i only use notepad++ which is opensource and supported in more than 80
languages in its menu interface

On 2/20/17, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:
EdSharp

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nika
Tsiklauri
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 9:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible HTML CSS Javascript editors.

Hi all, Can anyone suggest some accessible editors for html css and
javascript? I have been using Notepad++, but I am interested if there's
other better and accessible software for that purpose?
Thanks in advance.
Re: Accessible HTML CSS Javascript editors.

zahra
 

hi.
i only use notepad++ which is opensource and supported in more than 80
languages in its menu interface

On 2/20/17, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:
EdSharp

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
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Tsiklauri
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 9:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible HTML CSS Javascript editors.

Hi all, Can anyone suggest some accessible editors for html css and
javascript? I have been using Notepad++, but I am interested if there's
other better and accessible software for that purpose?
Thanks in advance.







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Re: Shut Down, etc

zahra
 

hi.
you can go to the microsoft website and use contact us and then live
chat support.

On 2/20/17, The Gamages <james.gamage@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hello,

Having got sighted help, it seems that the keyboard will not move down
to the power button, two keyboards have been tried, theis used to work
for me when I first got "10, so it seems that it is a Microsoft issue,
not NVDA, having tried with Jaws the same thing is evident, the mouse
can operate the power button.

It's alright to use alt F4 etc, but this issue needs to be sorted, where
will it end otherwise? What other keystrokes will disappear in the
updates that Microsoft make? sighted people use the keyboard as well.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Microsoft and get some
response? I could stand outside the back door and shout I suppose,
[lol].



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

I agree. There do seem to be, from the sighted point of view, quite a
lot of
options on screen we cannot get at aas a mouse user can. Not sure if
this
was some deliberate act or just an oversight in design, but the alt/f4
is my
preferred method. However the next snap seems to have issues sometimes
with
both this menu and some context menus and the nvda menu. A reboot of
nvda
seems to restore the menus.
Sadly nobody else could duplicate this problem and I have my suspicions
that its some software I run that cocks up nvda next.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


I use the alt F-4 method of shutting down. Both alt F-4 and windows x
are
fast.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

In Windows 10 that don't work.

windows+X can be a good alternative.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: P. Otter
Data: 16 de fevereiro de 2017 21:30
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


hello ralf,
when you're in the desktop, press the windows key.
after that press 2 times uparrow.
you hear shutdown or something, press enter there.
now you can make the choice restart or close the computer or the
sleepmode.
succes!
paul o


----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Boersema
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


Dear Folks,



My Windows 10 went through some kind of update and now my NVDA cannot
access
the Power button for shutting down or restarting, etc. I open the Start
menu, using the Windows key, then go to Navegation, using the tab key.
With
the down arrow I get down to the User Account button, but then it won’t
continue down to the Power button. Any suggestions?



Ralph
















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avg zen and antivirus

Richard Kuzma
 

Good morning,

I have avg antivirus / internet security and now for some reason I recently got something called avg zen.

I am trying to renw my licence and apparently you cant put in a key in this version.

Can anyone help.

rich
Re: NVDA not announcing bullets when added

Dan Thompson
 

Thank you very much for the valuable fixes.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not announcing bullets when added

 

What kind of bullets are you using?  If I type * something on a new line, it turns the asterisk into a "bullet" and that gets announced by NVDA at all punctuation levels except "none".

 

If you use a - to start your list items then you need puncutation level set to "most" or "all" for it to be read (NVDA+P to cycle through the options).

 

Make sure you have "lists" checked in the document formatting dialog (NVDA+CONTROL+D then press l until you get to "lists").

 

It announces bullets as you move through list items, and when you press enter to add a new bullet point.  The only time it doesn't announce the list bullet for me is if I navigate around a document and I have a lonely bullet on its own at the end of a list.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I was trying to teach adding of bullets on the fly and NVDA will not

Speak that there is  a bullet.

I have tried with most and all punctuation selected and the result is the same.  I also looked under “document formatting” and could find anything that would make this type of symbol be announced.

Does anyone else have this issue and if so can it be changed?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: NVDA not announcing bullets when added

Dan Thompson
 

Ah, I never thought about the application/context menu.  Thanks for reminding me of that.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo Vorster
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not announcing bullets when added

 

Hi Dan

 

I just tested the bullets insertion.

 

After selecting, in Word 2010, I press the application key and go down to “bullets”. After entering, NVDA does announce the bullets I inserted. True, when entering on “bullets” there is no speech response, but then, you must know that you selected to enter on bullets.

 

There are definitely other ways to insert bullets, but to me the above mentioned is definitely the easiest.

 

Regards

 

Christo (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Thompson
Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2017 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not announcing bullets when added

 

Hi all,

I was trying to teach adding of bullets on the fly and NVDA will not

Speak that there is  a bullet.

I have tried with most and all punctuation selected and the result is the same.  I also looked under “document formatting” and could find anything that would make this type of symbol be announced.

Does anyone else have this issue and if so can it be changed?

Thanks for your help.

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Roman algarisms

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,
How can i instruct NVDA to announce "DI" as "D" "I" instead of 501 and "CDI" as "C" "D" "I" instead of 401?
Or, still better, how can I set NVDA to forget roman numbers altogether?
Re: strange issue that I can't run down.

ken lawrence
 

yeah think I know that might have happened.  sound card was working could hear the moderator tell me that he had cleared me. when I hit alt plus ctrl plus delete espeak worked.  I think the kitchen game which uses sappi five voices and NVDA which is using dectalk also as a sappi five may have conflicted I had a similar issue when they were both using the same voice but not with two different voices.  I also know that at least one other member of that regular chat is using NVDA but not sure if he is using the same voice on both.  he is using a different language on the regular NVDA than what kitchen golf uses  one day we were playing and one player noticed some extra verbiage.  he has his NVDA set for spanish when he hit the space bar to make a shot the voice said Espacio will have to see if he's ever run into the same issue.  the rest of the group is using jaws so there is likely no conflict.  think what I'll try is toggle speech off in NVDA and see if it happens again.      
Re: Shut Down, etc

The Gamages
 

Hello,

Having got sighted help, it seems that the keyboard will not move down
to the power button, two keyboards have been tried, theis used to work
for me when I first got "10, so it seems that it is a Microsoft issue,
not NVDA, having tried with Jaws the same thing is evident, the mouse
can operate the power button.

It's alright to use alt F4 etc, but this issue needs to be sorted, where
will it end otherwise? What other keystrokes will disappear in the
updates that Microsoft make? sighted people use the keyboard as well.
Does anyone know how to get in touch with Microsoft and get some
response? I could stand outside the back door and shout I suppose,
[lol].



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

I agree. There do seem to be, from the sighted point of view, quite a
lot of
options on screen we cannot get at aas a mouse user can. Not sure if
this
was some deliberate act or just an oversight in design, but the alt/f4
is my
preferred method. However the next snap seems to have issues sometimes
with
both this menu and some context menus and the nvda menu. A reboot of
nvda
seems to restore the menus.
Sadly nobody else could duplicate this problem and I have my suspicions
that its some software I run that cocks up nvda next.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


I use the alt F-4 method of shutting down. Both alt F-4 and windows x
are
fast.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc

In Windows 10 that don't work.

windows+X can be a good alternative.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: P. Otter
Data: 16 de fevereiro de 2017 21:30
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


hello ralf,
when you're in the desktop, press the windows key.
after that press 2 times uparrow.
you hear shutdown or something, press enter there.
now you can make the choice restart or close the computer or the
sleepmode.
succes!
paul o


----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Boersema
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] Shut Down, etc


Dear Folks,



My Windows 10 went through some kind of update and now my NVDA cannot
access
the Power button for shutting down or restarting, etc. I open the Start
menu, using the Windows key, then go to Navegation, using the tab key.
With
the down arrow I get down to the User Account button, but then it won’t
continue down to the Power button. Any suggestions?



Ralph
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