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Re: hims braille display.

 

Braille Edge is produce by HIMS. It is possible that JAWS is involved.
It happens to me that's why I felt the need to reply.. I did not
expect to be reprimanded.

On 2/23/17, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
yes, but he talks about the hims braille display, i think it is all about
the hims braille display with nvda, because he asks the question in the nvda

list.
he don't talks about jaws.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nevzat Adil" <nevzatadil@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] hims braille display.


It happens to me, too, when I use JAWS, but not with NVDA. I assume
your friend is using the Braille Edge with JAWS. If so do a soft
reset (it's the button on the left side in the back of the unit) and
then restart Jaws.
Hope this helps.
Nevzat

On 2/23/17, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
tell me more about the kind of display
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] hims braille display.


hello, my friend has a hims braille display.
when she selects it, it says, can't load hims braille display.
any suggestions?












Re: Questions and suggestions

Gene
 

Your discussion of the run dialog behavior doesn't match my test and it doesn't sound like expected behavior.  Type a full Internet Address, http:sitename dot com, org etc.  What you are discussing is Windows behavior and not related to NVDA.  Also, if you are mostly using the run dialog and are neglecting the start menu search and also not making shortcuts and assigning short cut commands to run applications, you are overlooking major sources of convenience, often considerably more convenient than using the run dialog. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

Hi there,
I have a few comments, suggestions, questions etc.
1. Whenever I type anything into the Run dialog that has anything to do with NVDA, NVDA itself attempts to run.
This is a difficult one to comment on – that can be extremely helpful if NVDA has crashed, or you’re trying to revive your screenreader after some other mishap. However it also means I can’t enter any websites that have anything to do with NVDA in the address.
I do tend to access most things from the run dialog, as it’s a simple process of Win+R, type, enter, rather than having to browse for a program through explorer. Could this possibly be fixed so that a URL will take you to the appropriate place?
2. Profiles have a tendancy to use all settings, when you might want to keep some of the global settings active. For instance, if a profile is running and I change the audio output, as soon as that profile is deactivated the audio reverts back when chances are I want it to stay. Again, difficult to comment on, since not sure how it would be possible to have an option for any or every setting to stay global for a profile etc.
3. Even if no profiles are used, if you change the audio device, tones played by NVDA (for instance indentation, progress bars etc) don’t take this change into account until NVDA is restarted. I’m assuming this is a bug.
4. I have replaced the default NVDA sounds and would prefer it to retain my sounds after an update if at all possible. I do understand why the original sounds folder is reverted (it probably sees the sounds in its own package as being part of the upgrade, or perhaps it simply replaces every file in case of other conflicts), but perhaps a soundscheme setting or a user sounds folder could be a possibility?
5. This is perhaps the most important – NVDA seems to have a tendancy to miss labels and static texts that other screenreaders have no problems finding. I myself noticed a change in a program I used to use quite regularly when switching to NVDA a few years ago, and I’m finding more and more programs that I’m downloading or using simply saying “edit”, “list”, “button” etc without giving any indication as to what these controls are trying to tell me. This also goes for some webpages, where labels can and often are attached to the control they are referencing. Some treeviews also seem unaware of their items names, statuses etc, saying “Unknown” for every node and no indication as to whether it has subitems etc. When these kinds of things crop up I am automatically assuming that these are application-specific accessibility issues, but when I’m seeing this behaviour for multiple applications and people with other screenreaders are using them with no issues it does make me wonder if NVDA has some issues somewhere. Granted, NVDA works well with a lot of applications, but I’m wondering whether it has internal support for most of these? Does every application ideally need an app module for optimal accessibility?
Cheers.
Damien.


Questions and suggestions

Damien Sykes-Lindley <damien@...>
 

Hi there,
I have a few comments, suggestions, questions etc.
1. Whenever I type anything into the Run dialog that has anything to do with NVDA, NVDA itself attempts to run.
This is a difficult one to comment on – that can be extremely helpful if NVDA has crashed, or you’re trying to revive your screenreader after some other mishap. However it also means I can’t enter any websites that have anything to do with NVDA in the address.
I do tend to access most things from the run dialog, as it’s a simple process of Win+R, type, enter, rather than having to browse for a program through explorer. Could this possibly be fixed so that a URL will take you to the appropriate place?
2. Profiles have a tendancy to use all settings, when you might want to keep some of the global settings active. For instance, if a profile is running and I change the audio output, as soon as that profile is deactivated the audio reverts back when chances are I want it to stay. Again, difficult to comment on, since not sure how it would be possible to have an option for any or every setting to stay global for a profile etc.
3. Even if no profiles are used, if you change the audio device, tones played by NVDA (for instance indentation, progress bars etc) don’t take this change into account until NVDA is restarted. I’m assuming this is a bug.
4. I have replaced the default NVDA sounds and would prefer it to retain my sounds after an update if at all possible. I do understand why the original sounds folder is reverted (it probably sees the sounds in its own package as being part of the upgrade, or perhaps it simply replaces every file in case of other conflicts), but perhaps a soundscheme setting or a user sounds folder could be a possibility?
5. This is perhaps the most important – NVDA seems to have a tendancy to miss labels and static texts that other screenreaders have no problems finding. I myself noticed a change in a program I used to use quite regularly when switching to NVDA a few years ago, and I’m finding more and more programs that I’m downloading or using simply saying “edit”, “list”, “button” etc without giving any indication as to what these controls are trying to tell me. This also goes for some webpages, where labels can and often are attached to the control they are referencing. Some treeviews also seem unaware of their items names, statuses etc, saying “Unknown” for every node and no indication as to whether it has subitems etc. When these kinds of things crop up I am automatically assuming that these are application-specific accessibility issues, but when I’m seeing this behaviour for multiple applications and people with other screenreaders are using them with no issues it does make me wonder if NVDA has some issues somewhere. Granted, NVDA works well with a lot of applications, but I’m wondering whether it has internal support for most of these? Does every application ideally need an app module for optimal accessibility?
Cheers.
Damien.


Re: hims braille display.

P. Otter
 

yes, but he talks about the hims braille display, i think it is all about the hims braille display with nvda, because he asks the question in the nvda list.
he don't talks about jaws.
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nevzat Adil" <nevzatadil@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] hims braille display.


It happens to me, too, when I use JAWS, but not with NVDA. I assume
your friend is using the Braille Edge with JAWS. If so do a soft
reset (it's the button on the left side in the back of the unit) and
then restart Jaws.
Hope this helps.
Nevzat

On 2/23/17, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
tell me more about the kind of display
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] hims braille display.


hello, my friend has a hims braille display.
when she selects it, it says, can't load hims braille display.
any suggestions?








2/22 Next install

John Hedges
 

Seems like some changes in the latest NVDA build are causing sluggish hangs after a few hours of use on build 15031. I have had to force a sign out to reset the system. Mail and Edge are both open when the hang scenario occurs. It has occurred three times so far.

 

I also note some Edge issues on secure sites that were actually working better before this update.

 

John

APH

 


Re: Strange behavior in Gmail

Gene
 

What browser and screen-reader are you using?  Try whatever you like, a different screen-reader, a different browser, or both.  Rarely, I have a page that doesn't display properly and changing what is being used solves the problem.  Or just use the read to end command and don't down arrow through the message.  I'm not sure if reading will be as smooth as desired, but it may be reasonably adequate. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail

I think I have raised this topic before.

When I write an email in Gmail only one word appears in each line.
Is there anything which can be done about it?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@...




Strange behavior in Gmail

Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@...>
 

I think I have raised this topic before.

When I write an email in Gmail only one word appears in each line.
Is there anything which can be done about it?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@...


Re: LibreOffice again

Carlos
 

Hello All:

Has anyone here sought about asking LibreOffice if they would be able to come up with a screen reader that would exclusively support their office suite?

On 2/23/2017 4:13 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hello walmir.
i completely agree with you and confirm your post.
this is the reason that i dont update nvda.
only improvements for microsoft word adn excel, microsoft edge and
none of them is for libreoffice!
i reported many bugs about my problem.
four books which i have could not be opened by libreoffice because of
crash and thanks God the developers solved them for me.
many problems using windows xp the developers also solved and i
sincerely appreciate them and pray for them.
but the problems for incompatibility like bug which i mentioned about
say all and problems for diacritics are not solved until now.

On 2/23/17, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:
write to the accessibility team at LibreOffice. Some of them use NVDA.



--
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Re: hims braille display.

 

Also your friend should make sure the unit is in terminal mode.

On 2/23/17, Nevzat Adil <nevzatadil@...> wrote:
It happens to me, too, when I use JAWS, but not with NVDA. I assume
your friend is using the Braille Edge with JAWS. If so do a soft
reset (it's the button on the left side in the back of the unit) and
then restart Jaws.
Hope this helps.
Nevzat

On 2/23/17, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
tell me more about the kind of display
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] hims braille display.


hello, my friend has a hims braille display.
when she selects it, it says, can't load hims braille display.
any suggestions?








Re: hims braille display.

 

It happens to me, too, when I use JAWS, but not with NVDA. I assume
your friend is using the Braille Edge with JAWS. If so do a soft
reset (it's the button on the left side in the back of the unit) and
then restart Jaws.
Hope this helps.
Nevzat

On 2/23/17, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
tell me more about the kind of display
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:49 AM
Subject: [nvda] hims braille display.


hello, my friend has a hims braille display.
when she selects it, it says, can't load hims braille display.
any suggestions?








Re: LibreOffice again

 

hello walmir.
i completely agree with you and confirm your post.
this is the reason that i dont update nvda.
only improvements for microsoft word adn excel, microsoft edge and
none of them is for libreoffice!
i reported many bugs about my problem.
four books which i have could not be opened by libreoffice because of
crash and thanks God the developers solved them for me.
many problems using windows xp the developers also solved and i
sincerely appreciate them and pray for them.
but the problems for incompatibility like bug which i mentioned about
say all and problems for diacritics are not solved until now.

On 2/23/17, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:
write to the accessibility team at LibreOffice. Some of them use NVDA.



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle for PC

 

hello.
could someone please send me the chapter about kindle in nvda 2017.1 user guide?
send me this chapter off list email it for me.
thanks so much and God bless you all.

On 2/23/17, Simone Dal Maso <simone.dalmaso@...> wrote:
Hello,
you should visit the page where you buy the book, from the browser.
There is some detailed informations, and there you can understand if
there is the "truetype" option available.
Alternatively, but I'm not sure about this, perhaps if you can view the
properties of the book from the kindle app, but I can't confirm it
because now I haven't the app installed on the pc.



Il 23/02/2017 12:34, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hello, Thank you for your reply.

I have no idea where to get this page information of the book. Could you
please give me some idea?

Cheers,

Jorge



Às 11:29 de 23/02/2017, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
you should be sure that the book you want to read has the "truetype§"
font enabled. You can check it in the detail information page of the
book.
Let me know if you can find this.

Il 23/02/2017 12:16, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hi all,


I am very excited to try Nvda and Kindle. But the problem is that it's
not working for me.

I have Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle 1.19.2.46095. My Kindle was updated
yesterday.

I read the userguide chapter about it but what happens is when I open a
book, it just says border and I can't do anything about it.

Am I maybe missing something.

Cheers,

Jorge











--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle for PC

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
you should visit the page where you buy the book, from the browser.
There is some detailed informations, and there you can understand if there is the "truetype" option available.
Alternatively, but I'm not sure about this, perhaps if you can view the properties of the book from the kindle app, but I can't confirm it because now I haven't the app installed on the pc.

Il 23/02/2017 12:34, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hello, Thank you for your reply.

I have no idea where to get this page information of the book. Could you
please give me some idea?

Cheers,

Jorge



Às 11:29 de 23/02/2017, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:
Hello,
you should be sure that the book you want to read has the "truetype§"
font enabled. You can check it in the detail information page of the
book.
Let me know if you can find this.

Il 23/02/2017 12:16, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hi all,


I am very excited to try Nvda and Kindle. But the problem is that it's
not working for me.

I have Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle 1.19.2.46095. My Kindle was updated
yesterday.

I read the userguide chapter about it but what happens is when I open a
book, it just says border and I can't do anything about it.

Am I maybe missing something.

Cheers,

Jorge








Re: LibreOffice again

 

write to the accessibility team at LibreOffice. Some of them use NVDA.


Re: Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle for PC

Jorge Gonçalves <joport3@...>
 

Hello, Thank you for your reply.

I have no idea where to get this page information of the book. Could you please give me some idea?

Cheers,

Jorge



Às 11:29 de 23/02/2017, Simone Dal Maso escreveu:

Hello,
you should be sure that the book you want to read has the "truetype§" font enabled. You can check it in the detail information page of the book.
Let me know if you can find this.

Il 23/02/2017 12:16, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hi all,


I am very excited to try Nvda and Kindle. But the problem is that it's
not working for me.

I have Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle 1.19.2.46095. My Kindle was updated
yesterday.

I read the userguide chapter about it but what happens is when I open a
book, it just says border and I can't do anything about it.

Am I maybe missing something.

Cheers,

Jorge






Re: Windows 10 Mail app

Simone Dal Maso
 

It works quite well, sometime when you are writing you can't know what you are doing, so please install the excellent nvda's addon named:
Windows10 app essentials.

Best regards.

Il 23/02/2017 12:02, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
Hi

Does anyone on the list use the built-in mail app in Windows 10 and if
so, I would welcome your advice re accessibility. I have no sight and
rely on voice feedback only.



Cheers

Chris


Re: Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle for PC

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
you should be sure that the book you want to read has the "truetype§" font enabled. You can check it in the detail information page of the book.
Let me know if you can find this.

Il 23/02/2017 12:16, Jorge Gonçalves ha scritto:
Hi all,


I am very excited to try Nvda and Kindle. But the problem is that it's
not working for me.

I have Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle 1.19.2.46095. My Kindle was updated
yesterday.

I read the userguide chapter about it but what happens is when I open a
book, it just says border and I can't do anything about it.

Am I maybe missing something.

Cheers,

Jorge




Re: LibreOffice again

Michel Such
 

+1!

Michel SUCH

michel.such@...
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 23/02/2017 à 12:06, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io a écrit :
Hi,

A new version of NVDA.

Many fixes and enhancements related to Excel and Word.

But...

And LibreOffice?

When will it get some attention?

All "annoyances", to not say plain incompatibilities, are still there.

Very sad!




Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle for PC

Jorge Gonçalves <joport3@...>
 

Hi all,


I am very excited to try Nvda and Kindle. But the problem is that it's not working for me.

I have Nvda 2017.1 and Kindle 1.19.2.46095. My Kindle was updated yesterday.

I read the userguide chapter about it but what happens is when I open a book, it just says border and I can't do anything about it.

Am I maybe missing something.

Cheers,

Jorge


LibreOffice again

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

A new version of NVDA.

Many fixes and enhancements related to Excel and Word.

But...

And LibreOffice?

When will it get some attention?

All "annoyances", to not say plain incompatibilities, are still there.

Very sad!