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Re: Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

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Its a relative new feature allowed by nvda I think.
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From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On


hi joseph.
do other addons check for update automaticly or checking for update is
special for only this one?

On 2/25/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Right - I'll add an issue on the GitHub page for the add-on. Thanks for
bringing this up (will release 17.03.1 that addresses this problem soon).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laughingthunder
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw
Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

Hello,

I believe I have identified a serious security flaw in the Windows 10 App
Essentials add-on for NVDA. The add-on should never check for updates, or
present the dialog asking if the user would like to update the add-on while
NVDA is running on the log on and other secure screens.
I know that NVDA does warn if add-ons are found while copying the
configuration to the system profile, but I feel that this warning cannot be
relied upon to prevent serious security issues, such as the one described
above. I cannot be the only user who allows some add-ons, such as speech
synthesizers and other low-risk add-ons on the secure desktop intentionally
for convenience. I feel that this should be addressed by preventing the
Windows 10 App Essentials add-on from displaying update messages on secure
screens, just in case it ends up in that configuration.

Also, NVDA should never display any add-on help entries in the NVDA help
menu when running on secure screens, in the same way that custom preferences
menu entries are hidden. I.E. if the NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on is installed
in the system configuration, its help menu entry is displayed in the NVDA
help menu on secure screens.








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Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

hi.
i realy wish to nvda developer solve this problem.
uninstalling some programs should not cause problem using nvda with browsers.

On 2/25/17, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
I also remember reading that Mathplayer is not supposed to be uninstalled
once installed as it could break other parts of the system. It was a warning
I saw when installing Mathplayer for the first time.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem


This illustrates my point. The phrase "stuck with Math Player" sounds as
though it is a meaningful imposition to have it. It takes up very little
room and does nothing when not being used.
As I said, the presumption that programs should reflexively and routinely be
uninstalled is one that should be reexamined.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Louis Maher
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem


When I was having the problem, NVDA could not access Firefox or Internet
Explorer. Fortunately, everything is now running fine once MathPlayer was
re-installed.

It looks Like I am stuck with MathPlayer.


Regards
Louis Maher
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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Do any html pages in any browser work?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Maher" <ljmaher@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 6:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem


Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am
now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



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Re: getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

 

hi every one.
thanks for your suggestion.
it was useful also for me.
thanks so much and God bless you all.

On 2/25/17, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote:
Hi!

Another option is to check Beep For Capitals in the Voice Settings dialogue:
that’s the option I personally use. That way I can hear what letters are
capitals when reading character by character, regardless of which voice
synthesizer I use and whether they can do pitch changes or not.

It’s still good to have the choice of how capitals are indicated, though.

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: samedi 25 février 2017 11:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting NVDA to indicate capital letters



You all going down the wrong track!



Go to nvda voice settings and check say cap before capitals



Job done!





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Re: Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

 

hi joseph.
do other addons check for update automaticly or checking for update is
special for only this one?

On 2/25/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Right - I'll add an issue on the GitHub page for the add-on. Thanks for
bringing this up (will release 17.03.1 that addresses this problem soon).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laughingthunder
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw
Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

Hello,

I believe I have identified a serious security flaw in the Windows 10 App
Essentials add-on for NVDA. The add-on should never check for updates, or
present the dialog asking if the user would like to update the add-on while
NVDA is running on the log on and other secure screens.
I know that NVDA does warn if add-ons are found while copying the
configuration to the system profile, but I feel that this warning cannot be
relied upon to prevent serious security issues, such as the one described
above. I cannot be the only user who allows some add-ons, such as speech
synthesizers and other low-risk add-ons on the secure desktop intentionally
for convenience. I feel that this should be addressed by preventing the
Windows 10 App Essentials add-on from displaying update messages on secure
screens, just in case it ends up in that configuration.

Also, NVDA should never display any add-on help entries in the NVDA help
menu when running on secure screens, in the same way that custom preferences
menu entries are hidden. I.E. if the NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on is installed
in the system configuration, its help menu entry is displayed in the NVDA
help menu on secure screens.







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Re: New windows not always detected

 

hi gene.
i exactly ment this one.
thanks so much for your answer and God bless you all.

On 2/26/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Coming in late to this one, and like others no longer have the original
message. I posted the other day that sometimes the update for nvda screen
opens behind other running aps, and I've also noticed that sometimes a
Firefox boot up does not register at all unless you mess about with
changing the focus. My initial feelings have always been that some access
event is being missed as even on fast machines the log contains watchdog
activity such as the core is frozen. and to me that means nvda is
effectively suspended and cannot monitor things. I stongly suspect that the

programs or events are taking all the resources, maybe only for a split
second but its enough to cause the problem so even in process things are not

registerd.
Cannot prove it and would have no idea how other screenreaders would work
around this, but I put it out there as a suggestion.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected


whats your solution for solving this?

On 2/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just tested using XP and JAWS. On the three programs where I have this

or
a similar problem, it didn't occur with JAWS. I tested opening each
program
twice. Though I was skeptical that this was an NVDA problem, it now
appears
that it is. Perhaps these programs have something in common that causes
NVDA to have this initial focus problem.


Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected


I saw a message from an XP user saying that he doesn't encounter the
problem
in XP. I still use XP and I see the problem in Firefox, Chrome and
Tapin
Radio.

I didn't keep the message so I can't include it in the quoted previous
messages.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected


I have encountered it, too.




On 2/25/2017 8:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello,

I'd like to ask if anyone else has encountered the following:

When launching an application, for example by hitting enter on Mozilla
Firefox on the desktop, NVDA sometimes fails to detect there is a new
active
window. It will not automatically say anything, and pressing NVDA+t will
still yield "Explorer" as if the desktop still had focus. However,
pressing
tab clearly shows that Firefox had focus because it performs the
expected
action of jumping, for example, out of the address field and into the
search
field.

For an experiment I gave it a full five minutes to see if it just takes

an
awful lot of time, but no luck. So, window activation events seem under
certain conditions to be able to pass under NVDA's radar.

It might be worth noting that I noticed this not long after a reboot
and
the dust might not have fully settled in terms of background tasks
starting
and stopping.

Kind regards,

Felix



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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Dan Thompson
 

Thank you very very much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] searching for text on the internet with nvda

 

The initial search command is control NVDA key f.  The repeat search command is NVDA key f3. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:11 PM

Subject: [nvda] searching for text on the internet with nvda

 

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Dan Thompson
 

Thank you every so very much. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] searching for text on the internet with nvda

 

NVDA + ctrl + F to invoke the search dialogue for the web content, and, then remember it's just numpad up arrow, and, not in combination with the NVDA/insert key to read the current line.

 

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On 2017-02-27 00:11, Dan Thompson wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Dejan Ristic
 

Try pressing NVDA, control and F, and then hit enter so that you're put in the line where the desired word is supposed to exist.


On 2/26/2017 11:11 PM, Dan Thompson wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Gene
 

The initial search command is control NVDA key f.  The repeat search command is NVDA key f3. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] searching for text on the internet with nvda

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Laz
 

Try using NVDA key plus control plus F.

Laz

On 2/26/17, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage. This is what I
am
currently doing.

1. When on a page where I am looking for the word access, for
example

2. I press control plus f.

3. 2. Type in the word to find.

4. 3. Hit enter.

5. I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line
with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current
line.

6. What m I doing wrong?

7. Thanks for any help.

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Re: searching for text on the internet with nvda

Jacob Kruger
 

NVDA + ctrl + F to invoke the search dialogue for the web content, and, then remember it's just numpad up arrow, and, not in combination with the NVDA/insert key to read the current line.


HTH


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On 2017-02-27 00:11, Dan Thompson wrote:

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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searching for text on the internet with nvda

Dan Thompson
 

Hi all,

Sorry for such a silly question.

How can I get nvda to search for a word etc on a webpage.  This is what I am currently doing.

1.       When on  a page where I am looking for the word access, for example

2.       I press control plus f.

3.       2.  Type in the word to find.

4.       3.  Hit enter.

5.       I always seem to have to press escape to check if I am on the line with the word in stead of pressing insert plus up arrow to read the current line.

6.       What m I doing wrong?

7.       Thanks for any help.

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Re: numbers pronunciation problem

Gene
 

I thought none of the Microsoft voices in Windows 10 are SAPI 5 vboices.  Perhaps some are and some aren't.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Laz
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] numbers pronunciation problem

The microsoft David and Zira Desktop voices in Windows 10 are SAPI5
voices, or the Rockbox Utility and the RBClip utility wouldn't be able
to use them to create talk files for a rockboxed MP3 player. If they
weren't SAPI5 voices they wouldn't even show up in either of those two
utilities. They also show up in NVDA when you choose the SAPI5
synthesizer. Why do you say they're not SAPI5 voices?

Laz

On 2/26/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> The Microsoft voices used in Windows 10 aren't SAPI 5 voices and I don't
> think it matters.  What matters is probably the way the synthesizer treats
> the string.  The string reads correctly here using Via Voice and E-Speak.
>
> You indicate you use SAPI voices for NVDA but since Narrator doesn't use
> SAPI 5 voices, at least by default, it raises the question of whether you
> are testing with the same voices.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: John Sanfilippo
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:17 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] numbers pronunciation problem
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.
>
> For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:
>
> 17b26s
>
> It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
> but it says:
> " seventeent b 2 s i x s"
>
> I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
> properly pronounced.
>
> John S
>
>
> --
> - JS o -
>
>
>
>


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Re: numbers pronunciation problem

Laz
 

The microsoft David and Zira Desktop voices in Windows 10 are SAPI5
voices, or the Rockbox Utility and the RBClip utility wouldn't be able
to use them to create talk files for a rockboxed MP3 player. If they
weren't SAPI5 voices they wouldn't even show up in either of those two
utilities. They also show up in NVDA when you choose the SAPI5
synthesizer. Why do you say they're not SAPI5 voices?

Laz

On 2/26/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
The Microsoft voices used in Windows 10 aren't SAPI 5 voices and I don't
think it matters. What matters is probably the way the synthesizer treats
the string. The string reads correctly here using Via Voice and E-Speak.

You indicate you use SAPI voices for NVDA but since Narrator doesn't use
SAPI 5 voices, at least by default, it raises the question of whether you
are testing with the same voices.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: John Sanfilippo
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] numbers pronunciation problem


Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


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Re: numbers pronunciation problem

Gene
 

The Microsoft voices used in Windows 10 aren't SAPI 5 voices and I don't think it matters.  What matters is probably the way the synthesizer treats the string.  The string reads correctly here using Via Voice and E-Speak. 
 
You indicate you use SAPI voices for NVDA but since Narrator doesn't use SAPI 5 voices, at least by default, it raises the question of whether you are testing with the same voices.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] numbers pronunciation problem

Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


--
- JS o -




Re: numbers pronunciation problem

Andre Fisher
 

This is strange, and doesn't happen with other synths. You are right
that it doesn't happen with Narrator either.

On 2/26/17, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
SAPI5 in all cases.

John


On 2/26/17 13:42, Andre Fisher wrote:
Which synthesizer are you using?

On 2/26/17, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the
following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


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Re: numbers pronunciation problem

John Sanfilippo
 

SAPI5 in all cases.

John

On 2/26/17 13:42, Andre Fisher wrote:
Which synthesizer are you using?

On 2/26/17, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


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Re: numbers pronunciation problem

Andre Fisher
 

Which synthesizer are you using?

On 2/26/17, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


--
- JS o -




numbers pronunciation problem

John Sanfilippo
 

Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2017.1 in Windows 10 Pro. I let Windows update itself.

For a long time now I've noteced a problem with strings like the following:

17b26s

It should say, "seventeen b twenty-six s",
but it says:
" seventeent b 2 s i x s"

I was inclined to suspect MSDavid, but when I ran Narrator the string is
properly pronounced.

John S


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- JS o -


Re: Trouble with yahoo

Brian's Mail list account
 

The phone has no display only audio out.
I'm going to leave it till Tuesday and try sending it to another phone.
They most certainly do complicate simple processes.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble with yahoo


You can try sending the text to an e-mail account. On my phone, though Ive seldom done so, I believe I did send a text message or two as an attachment. Or getting sighted help should allow you to solve the problem unless the text is limited in time and would time out before you got the assistance or received the message on your computer and looked at it. You may need someone to be present when you go through the procedure. Or there may be a disability number you can call.

But whatever the case, by far, the likely problem is that you aren't getting adequate information from the phone message. Though there may be other possibilities, none of them seem to make sense.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 3:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble with yahoo


Hi well straight after that message was received a load of us found smtp
prompts for log on password.
When you go to follow the links it asks if they can send you a verification
code to the mobile number they make you put in when you open the account.
this is sent. It sounds like four characters and there is an unlabelled
field on the page to enter it. It also says in the help that after doing
this you will be asked to change your password and agree to use an old
insecure email client, but I never get that far. Instead it just comes up
with an unauthorised access message and sends you an email with a link
back to another page to get another code again.

Its like Groundhog day.
They seem to be deliberately suggesting that all who have not changed their
password do so but need the code to verify its really you. I can only deduce
that its either that the field is the wrong one or the code read by my dumb
phone is incomplete. Sadly the phone has no way to step through the
characters in the message it just says fy8d or whatever its is.

Are you saying you can actually send email through yahoo after that
message?

I can't It still receives of course but not send.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble with yahoo


Brian,

I'm gathering you're referring to the e-mail message from Yahoo entitled,
"REMINDER: Secure Your Yahoo Account," though given the amount of haranguing
they've been doing after the announced-years-later password breach it could
be another.

I could, and did, ignore that reminder because essentially it's a
solicitation to turn on 2-step verification which I have no desire to do
(and don't use it for accessing Gmail via Thunderbird, WLM 2012, and Outlook
2010, either, for which I use IMAP access, not POP).

I haven't gotten anything that requires a code be sent to a mobile phone,
though, as part of a verification process.
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I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to
respect in any way.

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