Friends,


I've just signed the petition! I'm supporting you. Whatever is supposed to be signed, set it before me, and I'll push on. Our rights are not supposed to be denied us.


On 3/1/2017 10:08 PM, Simone Dal Maso wrote:

https://www.change.org/p/telegram-should-be-accessible-for-visually-impaired

2017-03-01 22:02 GMT+01:00, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com>:

Can someone send me the link again?

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of N K Shackelford
Sent: February-28-17 9:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.

Thanks,

Nance

https://www.change.org/p/telegram-should-be-accessible-for-visually-impaired

2017-03-01 22:02 GMT+01:00, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com>:

Can someone send me the link again?

Can someone send me the link again?

Dear Simone,
Thanks for sharing this petition link. I myself signed the petition as
one of the first hundred signers; and now it has 444 supporters.
Dear Ollie, as Simone said, Telegram is a frequently used messenger in
our country, Iran. Our government and governmental and
non-governmental organizations, from our radio-television broadcaster,
to my son's school staff use Telegram for their announcements.
Unfortunately, we have to use Telegram.
I also as my part, spreaded the link via Whatsapp and sent it to our
blind-specific weblogs and websites.
again, thank you Simone, and thanks to Ollie, Robert and Mario to sign
the petition.
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad, Karaj, Iran

Thanks very much. I'm glad to know this. I'm totally unfamiliar with
anything Mac or Apple.
Nance

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Armando Maldonado <
armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless
the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps
his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando

On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of
friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard." Not familiar with it,
but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this
in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

--
N K Shackelford
--Walk on faith and trust in love - Michael Reed--

----- Original Message -----

From: Armando Maldonado

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:14 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando

On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.

Thanks,

Nance

    

                

----- Original Message -----

From: N K Shackelford

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:48 AM

Subject: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.

Thanks,

Nance

    

                

Simone,


You're absolutely right in that respect. I signed the petition, because I think it's a duty that we have to always do our part, but those devs are more than blind... They're daft!

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 01/03/2017 12:09, Simone Dal Maso ha scritto:

Ollie,
try to say this to iranian people, where Telegram is the most used app
in their country.
Their government use telegram to communicate and give announces to
people; blind teachers can't communicate or participate with their
student or other teachers just because all of them use Telegram.
So I think that, als if developers are blind in the figurative sense
of the word, we should try.

2017-02-28 15:43 GMT+01:00, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:

Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:

I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.

Ollie,
try to say this to iranian people, where Telegram is the most used app
in their country.
Their government use telegram to communicate and give announces to
people; blind teachers can't communicate or participate with their
student or other teachers just because all of them use Telegram.
So I think that, als if developers are blind in the figurative sense
of the word, we should try.

2017-02-28 15:43 GMT+01:00, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:

Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:

I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.

Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:

I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.

Hi Simon

I use the Office 2003 command, ALT+V and then H to read my headers. There might be other shortcuts that work, but for me this is the one I prefer.

Cheers

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simon Jaeger
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 8:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Headers in Microsoft Word

hi,

Any idea how I can read these? Seems like a stupid thing to install a 40 minute JAWS demo for.


Simon

Hi all,

One of my textbooks is an Adobe Digital Edition, and it seems that I have to use Adobe's Digital Edition reader to access it. I can see the table of contents, but I can't access anything beyond that. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. I am getting further behind with each day that I cannot figure this app out! :(

Best,
Amber

Sent from my iPhone