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Re: Google Docs

 

Brandon,

           I realize it's a work-around, but have you considered downloading Google Drive Sync for your PC?  It gives you access to your Google Drive in a way that's much more "native Windows" rather than web-based.  It's worth a shot trying it since it's free.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004



Re: Google Docs

Nika Tsiklauri
 

 if you want to read some punctuation symbols, use insert P to set it to all punctuation. Then, try to move with arrow keys.  actually, I don't quite understand, why should we use insert key, or turn off to access the Google docs editor.  I think, that that is the disadvantage of Google docs versus Microsoft office word. 


On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 20:05 UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu <uyigitoglu@...> wrote:
Also I can't read many panctuation symbols. Google should do something
about it. <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table
style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
        <tr>
      <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 18px;"><a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"
target="_blank"><img
src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"
width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td>
                <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 17px; color: #41424e;
font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 18px;">Virüs bulunmuyor. <a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"
target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a>               </td>
        </tr>
</table>
<a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div>

2017-03-05 18:09 GMT+03:00, Gene <gsasner@...>:
> I don't know if anything can be done but just use the stop speech command
> before typing and then turn speech back on when finished.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Brandon Cross
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:25 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Google Docs
>
>
> Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple
> reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your
> keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had
> this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot
> confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I
> don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me
> down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google
> docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility
> on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing
> related to this.
>
>
> It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well
> we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not
> much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just
> coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you
> need help, etc.
>


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Re: Google Docs

UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
 

Also I can't read many panctuation symbols. Google should do something
about it. <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table
style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;">
<tr>
<td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 18px;"><a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"
target="_blank"><img
src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"
width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td>
<td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 17px; color: #41424e;
font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
line-height: 18px;">Virüs bulunmuyor. <a
href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail"
target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast.com</a> </td>
</tr>
</table>
<a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div>

2017-03-05 18:09 GMT+03:00, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>:

I don't know if anything can be done but just use the stop speech command
before typing and then turn speech back on when finished.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brandon Cross
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Docs


Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple
reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your
keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had
this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot
confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I
don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me
down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google
docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility
on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing
related to this.


It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well
we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not
much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just
coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you
need help, etc.
--
psikoloji lisans öğrencisi- b.a student in psychology

kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

kelby carlson
 

I did contact them and they claimed they had no technical support.

On 3/5/17, David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com> wrote:
I have just had a look at the UK website www.amazon.co.uk and the recent
orders pages still seems accessible.

I know this is not much help and I hopoe that the difficulties you are
experiencing are not translated to the UK website.

It may be worth contacting Amazon to express concern over your difficulty. I
am afraid Amazon have been pretty notorious on accessibility – being in my
experience only reactive – responding to issues raised but not designing
apps from the ground up to be accessible.

David Griffith


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: kelby carlson
Sent: 05 March 2017 14:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.





Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

David Griffith
 

I have just had a look at the UK website www.amazon.co.uk and the recent orders pages still seems accessible.

 

I know this is not much help and I hopoe that the difficulties you are experiencing are not translated to the UK website.

 

It may be worth contacting Amazon to express concern over your difficulty. I am afraid Amazon have been pretty notorious on accessibility – being in my experience only reactive – responding to issues raised but not designing apps from the ground up to be accessible.

 

David Griffith

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: kelby carlson
Sent: 05 March 2017 14:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

 

Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?

The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are

no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it

takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,

but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I

can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.

 

 

 


Re: Google Docs

Gene
 

I don't know if anything can be done but just use the stop speech command before typing and then turn speech back on when finished.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Google Docs

Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing related to this.

It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you need help, etc.


KNFB Reader v. Kurzweil 1000

kelby carlson
 

Is it worth buying a license for KNFB Reader if one already has one
for Kurzweil 1000? Is there a noticeable difference, especially when
processing a PDF file?


Re: Google Docs

Nika Tsiklauri
 

 hello. In Google docs, there is no such option to do this.  it's not the only issue with Google Chrome and Google docs, it's issue of Google docs in every browser.  I don't know, if  anything can be done with add-on.  I think, Google should do something with it. 


On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 18:25 Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...> wrote:
Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing related to this.

It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you need help, etc.


Google Docs

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing related to this.

It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you need help, etc.


Amazon No Longer Accessible?

kelby carlson
 

Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Correction:  To thread messages the keystroke is T. To unthread or ungroup, the keystroke is back slash.  N is used for the next unread message in a message list. All these keystrokes are performed from a message list--not from within a message.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tony,


To bring your mail contacts down from GMail, you must set up GMail from the web interface to an IMap or pop3 setting. This is a bit involved.  If you need further instructions, I or someone else can give them.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tony,


If you want to group by conversation, the shortcut key is the letter T.  If you want to unthread the messages, the keystroke is N.  You press these keys from a message list--not from a open message.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi i just looked under the sort by section there is a part where you can have them threaded or not.


I use outlook.com for my emails up on the web but did not like it much when they changed the interface, so then looked up the settings for outlook.com and then setup the account in mozilla thunder bird with those details. So now what happens is the emails on outlook.com instead of going to the website now come down to mozilla thunder bird and that is the way i like it.


I am guessing you could also do the same for gmail as well and have them come down to mozilla thunder bird.


The following page should help you configure mozilla thunder bird for gmail to they come down to mozilla thunder bird.


The link to this page is https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Set-up-email/Thunderbird-and-Gmail/ta-p/14181

i should set it up on this computer as well as i do myself have it for my android phones.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 7:42 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I can not remember if it is or not because every ones preferences are different. But the section of thunder bird is the view menu then sort by. The ones that are ticked are your prefereces.


mine on this computer is the date is checked and descending so the newest is at the top and then going down. If it is not it can easily be put in as a section on the thunder bird tututorial if it is not there.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 5:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries



Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       

On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Jacob Kruger
 

Sorry - you're right - don't know why was thinking about N key instead of B key ⌣


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:42, Gene wrote:

The task bar, which it sounds as though you are talking about is gotten to with the command Windows key b.  I doubt this has changed in Windows 10. 

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Also, if you can't find the insert key, if you can get to the notification/status bar on windows - windows key + N, if NVDA icon is showing up there, you can also invoke context menu on it to get to preferences, keyboard preferences, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:05, Chris wrote:

Not really necessary On a fresh install of nvda  theres a pop up dialog which allows the modifier to be changed if so desired

 

 




Re: Problem on reading sitations on google scholar

James AUSTIN
 

Hello

I have done a bit of digging and have discovered the following when moving through the available citation formats in Google Scholar:

1. You need to be in Object Review Mode. At least this works for me.

2. Tabbing through each citation style you can then use Numpad 7 or NumPad 9 to read the chosen citation. For some reason, although NumPad 7 and 9 are supposed to move to the previous and next lines, they read the same information in this case.

Hope this helps

James

On 04/03/2017 10:09, UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu wrote:
Hello,
I can't read sitations on google scholar. When I click for site, nvda
just says section nothing elce?
Any help is appreciated very much.
Best regards