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KNFB Reader v. Kurzweil 1000

kelby carlson
 

Is it worth buying a license for KNFB Reader if one already has one
for Kurzweil 1000? Is there a noticeable difference, especially when
processing a PDF file?


Re: Google Docs

Nika Tsiklauri
 

 hello. In Google docs, there is no such option to do this.  it's not the only issue with Google Chrome and Google docs, it's issue of Google docs in every browser.  I don't know, if  anything can be done with add-on.  I think, Google should do something with it. 


On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 18:25 Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...> wrote:
Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing related to this.

It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you need help, etc.


Google Docs

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

Using Google docs in Chrome with NVDA for me is frustrating for one simple reason, and it's not NVDA's fault either. Simply put, irrespective of your keyboard echo settings, I hear characters I type echo back to me. I've had this in certain places on other sites too, my guess, although I cannot confirm this, is that they're using some resource in ARIA to do this. I don't like it at all. I don't want to hear characters as I type, it slows me down. My question is, can anything be done about this, either on the google docs side, or from an addon prospective. I did look into the accessibility on google docs, yes, screen reader mode is active, and I found nothing related to this.

It kind of bothers me that they would force this on users, it's that well we're a big corporation so we know what's best for you type of thing. Not much different from a sighted person grabbing you on the street, or just coming right up to you and intruding on your space yelling about how you need help, etc.


Amazon No Longer Accessible?

kelby carlson
 

Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Correction:  To thread messages the keystroke is T. To unthread or ungroup, the keystroke is back slash.  N is used for the next unread message in a message list. All these keystrokes are performed from a message list--not from within a message.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tony,


To bring your mail contacts down from GMail, you must set up GMail from the web interface to an IMap or pop3 setting. This is a bit involved.  If you need further instructions, I or someone else can give them.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tony,


If you want to group by conversation, the shortcut key is the letter T.  If you want to unthread the messages, the keystroke is N.  You press these keys from a message list--not from a open message.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi i just looked under the sort by section there is a part where you can have them threaded or not.


I use outlook.com for my emails up on the web but did not like it much when they changed the interface, so then looked up the settings for outlook.com and then setup the account in mozilla thunder bird with those details. So now what happens is the emails on outlook.com instead of going to the website now come down to mozilla thunder bird and that is the way i like it.


I am guessing you could also do the same for gmail as well and have them come down to mozilla thunder bird.


The following page should help you configure mozilla thunder bird for gmail to they come down to mozilla thunder bird.


The link to this page is https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Set-up-email/Thunderbird-and-Gmail/ta-p/14181

i should set it up on this computer as well as i do myself have it for my android phones.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 7:42 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi, I got it sorted now.  2 more questions for now.  first, can thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I can not remember if it is or not because every ones preferences are different. But the section of thunder bird is the view menu then sort by. The ones that are ticked are your prefereces.


mine on this computer is the date is checked and descending so the newest is at the top and then going down. If it is not it can easily be put in as a section on the thunder bird tututorial if it is not there.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 5:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       
On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries



Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful.  I'm using Thunderbird to reply.  Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?

       

On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal            and wrote:

Hi       


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Jacob Kruger
 

Sorry - you're right - don't know why was thinking about N key instead of B key ⌣


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:42, Gene wrote:

The task bar, which it sounds as though you are talking about is gotten to with the command Windows key b.  I doubt this has changed in Windows 10. 

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Also, if you can't find the insert key, if you can get to the notification/status bar on windows - windows key + N, if NVDA icon is showing up there, you can also invoke context menu on it to get to preferences, keyboard preferences, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:05, Chris wrote:

Not really necessary On a fresh install of nvda  theres a pop up dialog which allows the modifier to be changed if so desired

 

 




Re: Problem on reading sitations on google scholar

James AUSTIN
 

Hello

I have done a bit of digging and have discovered the following when moving through the available citation formats in Google Scholar:

1. You need to be in Object Review Mode. At least this works for me.

2. Tabbing through each citation style you can then use Numpad 7 or NumPad 9 to read the chosen citation. For some reason, although NumPad 7 and 9 are supposed to move to the previous and next lines, they read the same information in this case.

Hope this helps

James

On 04/03/2017 10:09, UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu wrote:
Hello,
I can't read sitations on google scholar. When I click for site, nvda
just says section nothing elce?
Any help is appreciated very much.
Best regards


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user to mozilla thunder bird.  this was  when written using nvda and still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the home page it will take you to the main page where you can find other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.  Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this program using nvda?  Thx

Sé onr sverdar sitja hvass!  May your swords stay sharp!  (ancient language Phrase from inheritance cycle) 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Chris Mullins
 

There are in fact a couple of task bar related windows commands.  Windows+t puts focus on the currently running apps and task bar pinned items.  Windows+b puts focus on the system tray which contains apps running in the background.  Here you can press enter on the Notification chevron button to open  the overflow area, which lists background items that don’t fit on the system tray.  You will find the NVDA icon in the system tray or it’s overflow area and you can press enter on it to display the NVDA menu.  This means you can access the NVDA menu without having to use the NVDA key to do so.

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 4 March 2017 18:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

 

The task bar, which it sounds as though you are talking about is gotten to with the command Windows key b.  I doubt this has changed in Windows 10. 

 

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

 

Also, if you can't find the insert key, if you can get to the notification/status bar on windows - windows key + N, if NVDA icon is showing up there, you can also invoke context menu on it to get to preferences, keyboard preferences, etc. etc.

 

Stay well

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-03-04 20:05, Chris wrote:

Not really necessary On a fresh install of nvda  theres a pop up dialog which allows the modifier to be changed if so desired

 

 

 


Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Gene
 

Also, if you are going to use the task bar icon, you either have to use the context menu key to open the menu or the rough equivalent, shift f10. 
 
I didn't think of the task bar option but it's good to keep in mind just in case it's needed for some reason.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

The task bar, which it sounds as though you are talking about is gotten to with the command Windows key b.  I doubt this has changed in Windows 10. 

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Also, if you can't find the insert key, if you can get to the notification/status bar on windows - windows key + N, if NVDA icon is showing up there, you can also invoke context menu on it to get to preferences, keyboard preferences, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:05, Chris wrote:

Not really necessary On a fresh install of nvda  theres a pop up dialog which allows the modifier to be changed if so desired

 

 



Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Gene
 

The task bar, which it sounds as though you are talking about is gotten to with the command Windows key b.  I doubt this has changed in Windows 10. 

Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Also, if you can't find the insert key, if you can get to the notification/status bar on windows - windows key + N, if NVDA icon is showing up there, you can also invoke context menu on it to get to preferences, keyboard preferences, etc. etc.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-04 20:05, Chris wrote:

Not really necessary On a fresh install of nvda  theres a pop up dialog which allows the modifier to be changed if so desired

 

 



Re: Caps lock key not working as insert key

Gene
 

I haven't installed NVDA for a long time and I didn't know about the dialog.  But it still is very important to know where the actual insert key is especially if you don't have a numpad. 
There are very commonly used commands that are very inconvenient to use with the caps lock option.  Read title bar is one, find in browse mode is another, and announce formatting is a third.  I expect there are others, perhaps many others that I haven't thought of. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

In future, when you get a new computer, make sure you know where the insert key is.  It is very important for working with NVDA.  Whenever NVDA is newly installed on a computer, insert is the only NVDA key. 
 
You can change the setting you want to change by working with the NVDA.ini file.  I know where it is in the portable version.  It's probably in a different place in the installed version.  If someone tells you where the NVDA.ini file is, I'll send instructions how to change the setting in the file unless someone does so first.  If you have sighted help available, finding out where the insert key is and following my previous instructions would be the fastest and easiest way to change the setting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Open keyboard settings with control NVDA key k.  Use either insert since you can't use the caps lock key. 
Tab until you get to use caps lock as an NVDA modifier.  It's a check box. 
Check it with the space bar.
Press enter. 
You can now use the caps lock key as an NVDA modifier. 
Now, issue the command control NVDA key c.  That will make sure the setting is saved permanently.  If you have changed settings you don't want to save, don't use that command until you have settings as you want them since all your current settings will be saved.
 
Gene
 
----- Original Message -----From: brennenkinch@...
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2017 9:37 AM
Subject: [nvda] Caps lock key not working as insert key

Hi my caps lock key is not working like the insert key it did once before and then one day it just stopped and now I am not sure what to do when I press the Caps lock key with something else it just says caps on or off but it doesn't do anything else can someone please help I am using what I think is the latest version of NVDA version 17.1

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