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Re: Has anyone else had this happen? random buzzing sound since upgrading to 17.1 ...

Laurie Mehta
 

Thanks Tyler, Robert and others...

This buzz sound was sounding after a comma or period following a proper name or abbreviation so I did not make the connection that it might be a spell-correct indicator.

Yes, I realize that proper names or abbreviations that are not contained in an application's dictionary will be noted as misspellings by the program, but I had not realized that NVDA had added the spelling feature and I just did not make the connection when I heard the sound.
Amusingly enough, the buzz sounded just now as I typed NVDA.

Anyway, thanks very much for your responses, each of you, and thanks also to Tyler and Robert for explaining how to undo the feature if I need to do that.

Have a great day!
- Laurie

--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 3/3/17, you wrote:

It's not random, it
occurs when you make a spelling error, as
determined by the application you are using,
like Microsoft Word and
Firefox.


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Kelby,


Here in the US, I have no such issues using Amazon main (not accessible) site. I click on my account and my orders. I then see a combo box that allows you to show orders from 2017, for the past six months, for all of 2016 and so on. I choose a date range from the combo box and then click continue and I am able to view all my past history as desired.


Again, are you located in the UK or some country outside the US?

On 3/6/2017 1:30 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
I'm using Firefox on Windows 10. Just as an example: if I go to the
main site (NOT the mobile one) and click on "your account" and "your
orders" there is no list of options to view your open, digital or
canceled orders as there was before. Like I said, the entire website
looks different so I can't go over everything. But it doesn't sound
like anyone here has a solution.

On 3/6/17, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Group,


Is this for Amazon Worldwide or just Amazon UK? I just tried it here in
the US and I don't see any differences.



On 3/5/2017 2:50 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Do you think there's a slight glitch?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

last week the site seem to be working fine.

On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi everyone

I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday, and had no
trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.

Take care

James

On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
from Amazon was 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
to buy products directly from the manufacturer.

On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or
two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So,
for
example.
I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.




--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

kelby carlson
 

I'm using Firefox on Windows 10. Just as an example: if I go to the
main site (NOT the mobile one) and click on "your account" and "your
orders" there is no list of options to view your open, digital or
canceled orders as there was before. Like I said, the entire website
looks different so I can't go over everything. But it doesn't sound
like anyone here has a solution.

On 3/6/17, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Group,


Is this for Amazon Worldwide or just Amazon UK? I just tried it here in
the US and I don't see any differences.



On 3/5/2017 2:50 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Do you think there's a slight glitch?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

last week the site seem to be working fine.

On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi everyone

I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday, and had no
trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.

Take care

James

On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
from Amazon was 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
to buy products directly from the manufacturer.

On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or
two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So,
for
example.
I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.







--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


Is this for Amazon Worldwide or just Amazon UK? I just tried it here in the US and I don't see any differences.

On 3/5/2017 2:50 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Do you think there's a slight glitch?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

last week the site seem to be working fine.

On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi everyone

I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday, and had no
trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.

Take care

James

On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
from Amazon was 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
to buy products directly from the manufacturer.

On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for
example.
I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.







--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762






--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: NVDA doesn't read certain controls in applications that run as another user

 

To be honest while windows has got a bit more officient in uac usage I'd still like windows to behave like linux.
Ie by default program files should be located in your home directories, well all program files folders and maybe another lot for the system.
Thus the only time I need to even bother with root on linux is if I need to change a system configuration which will effect the system, or save a system setting, or modify a system file, or install a program, or run code.
In windows I need to do that as well but also for the following.
To allow some programs access to the net, to allow a program to run windows is not sure of.
To allow windows to run something which its already running.
To change some settings, to run files windows is not sure of.
Fine, but then there is, to run files that windows has no idea about, or that while windows has run them before its forgot what they are.
It used to be worse, but still older software without certifficates well.
Certain directories will not save automatically.
In theory we shouldn't need to use system files but windows has used program files folder which is a share system folder.
As soon as your user account has a folder, part of that becomes a system folder.
And so on and so on.

On 6/03/2017 6:18 p.m., Simon Jaeger wrote:
Hi,

Looks like running it as that user does the trick. It was technically a
really niche situation though, and I found out the problem was that UAC
was prompting for the wrong account details. I have the hidden admin
account enabled and for some reason it was defaulting to that one, even
though my regular account is administrator. If I actually confirm the
uac prompt with credentials from the current account, it runs as that
user and everything works fine even without running an elevated copy of
NVDA. Either way, good to keep in mind if I face a situation where a
system is locked down and I need to run apps as admin occasionally.
Sidenote: I've thought of doing this to my own system to make it more
secure, but I figure a passworded UAC prompt is probably as good as it
gets.


Thanks all.


Simon



On 2017-03-05 17:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Its probably because you run a portable.
The security system in windows requires that an installed copy is used.
Failing that, you do realise that nvda will need to have settings in
that account and that account should be independant from your other
account, however if you go to %appdata% in your non admin account copy
the nvda folder, then in the admin account go to the same folder, try
at first placing them in there and seeing if that fixes it.
else delete that nvda folder in that account and see.
You could always try to just delete all your nvda settings and see if
that fixes things settings can get dammaged.
You could also try to uninstall and reinstall nvda.
I have systems with multiple accounts and you don't just switch
accounts and run nvda and then hope it works the same.
It shouldn't do this though.
On my personal system I have uac off because of older software but
everything else has it active for security reasons and I don't
encounter issues until I need to install something and then alt y is
good for you.



On 6/03/2017 10:32 a.m., Simon Jaeger wrote:
Hi all,
Subject line pretty much says it all. If I'm on a non-admin account and
I run something as the administrator account, a lot of controls (such as
list views, tree views etc) won't read properly. Anyone have any
workarounds? This is no ta common issue and I suspect it's not easily
solvable either, but I figure there's no harm in asking.

Simon




.




Re: NVDA doesn't read certain controls in applications that run as another user

Simon Jaeger
 

Hi,

Looks like running it as that user does the trick. It was technically a really niche situation though, and I found out the problem was that UAC was prompting for the wrong account details. I have the hidden admin account enabled and for some reason it was defaulting to that one, even though my regular account is administrator. If I actually confirm the uac prompt with credentials from the current account, it runs as that user and everything works fine even without running an elevated copy of NVDA. Either way, good to keep in mind if I face a situation where a system is locked down and I need to run apps as admin occasionally. Sidenote: I've thought of doing this to my own system to make it more secure, but I figure a passworded UAC prompt is probably as good as it gets.


Thanks all.


Simon

On 2017-03-05 17:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Its probably because you run a portable.
The security system in windows requires that an installed copy is used.
Failing that, you do realise that nvda will need to have settings in that account and that account should be independant from your other account, however if you go to %appdata% in your non admin account copy the nvda folder, then in the admin account go to the same folder, try at first placing them in there and seeing if that fixes it.
else delete that nvda folder in that account and see.
You could always try to just delete all your nvda settings and see if that fixes things settings can get dammaged.
You could also try to uninstall and reinstall nvda.
I have systems with multiple accounts and you don't just switch accounts and run nvda and then hope it works the same.
It shouldn't do this though.
On my personal system I have uac off because of older software but everything else has it active for security reasons and I don't encounter issues until I need to install something and then alt y is good for you.



On 6/03/2017 10:32 a.m., Simon Jaeger wrote:
Hi all,
Subject line pretty much says it all. If I'm on a non-admin account and
I run something as the administrator account, a lot of controls (such as
list views, tree views etc) won't read properly. Anyone have any
workarounds? This is no ta common issue and I suspect it's not easily
solvable either, but I figure there's no harm in asking.

Simon




.


Help/Tutorials for Using Windows 10

Pauline Smith <paulinesmithh@...>
 

Good Evening,


I finally took the plunge and upgraded my computer to Windows 10. Are there any tutorials or other information to help one learn how to navigate in the new system? I have the latest version of NVDA installed.


One thing I have noticed already is that I cannot seem to use the braille display I have been borrowing. Don't know if the drivers have to be reinstalled or what.


Pauline


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

 

Thats true their cloud servers have had some failier or something, this has taken down a large part of the net.
Even though they may be up, the backlog generated will be huge.

On 6/03/2017 11:38 a.m., Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
They must be still having issues, as I cannot get my Echo to play any my Kindle books by saying Alexa, play my Kindle book, then the book title, but that's not for this list. The point I'm making though is, Gene very likely is on to something here. It wouldn't surprise me if they've been having some glitches lately, although as far as the website goes, things have not ever seemed to not work.

Chris.

---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?


Hi




I read on the weekend there was a wide spread outage with them, maybe it has been fixed now or is it more navigation of it. The outage wouldive affected a few areas.




Gene nz






On 6/03/2017 9:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I've tried personally to navigate with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator all 3 with Firefox, Chrome, and IE. I even tried with Edge, which, given the state of accessibility in general with Edge in consideration, all things considered, even that! worked fairly decently.

I also tried, just for the record with Chrome using Chromevox, and I've even just tested navigating around with Safari on the mac with Voiceover, and in all above cases, I'm currently finding at least on my end that things are working as expected.

Chris.

---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?


Do you have another browser? I'm not saying the site hasn't changed but I'm skeptical. I would expect to see a flood of messages on all three sites I follow if it had to the extent you describe. If you have another browser, try it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?


This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Do you think there's a slight glitch?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
> Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>
> last week the site seem to be working fine.
>
> On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday, and had no
>> trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>
>>> I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
>>> from Amazon was 2 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>>>
>>> Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
>>> to buy products directly from the manufacturer.
>>>
>>> On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>>>> I had to get my mom to update my payment methods
>>>>
>>>> so it isn't just you.
>>>> On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
>>>>> The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
>>>>> are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
>>>>> order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
>>>>> the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for
>>>>> example.
>>>>> I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lenron Brown
> Cell: 985-271-2832
> Skype: ron.brown762
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Google Docs

 

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 04:00 pm, Brandon Cross wrote:
hmm, might have to try that [Google Drive Sync]

 If you do, please do report back on how it worked out and with your impressions with regard to accessibility of that access method in general.  

My gut tells me that it will be significantly easier from an accessibility angle than the web-based interface is, but I have not played with this with a screen reader to actually make that determination.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004



Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

 

when I went to change my card info I clicked on the payment button I tabbed around and all I got was card links with no spot to actually change the info.

there was no edit boxes or nothing

tried this both with nvda and jaws with the same results

On 3/5/2017 6:40 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmmm you don't need your mum to update anything.
Now if you are under 13 then you probably do.
Your profile will be restricted and that is probably it.
But unless you have some seriously crazy mum you shouldn't allow others to control your stuff.



On 6/03/2017 6:19 a.m., The Wolf wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.





.


Re: NVDA doesn't read certain controls in applications that run as another user

 

Its probably because you run a portable.
The security system in windows requires that an installed copy is used.
Failing that, you do realise that nvda will need to have settings in that account and that account should be independant from your other account, however if you go to %appdata% in your non admin account copy the nvda folder, then in the admin account go to the same folder, try at first placing them in there and seeing if that fixes it.
else delete that nvda folder in that account and see.
You could always try to just delete all your nvda settings and see if that fixes things settings can get dammaged.
You could also try to uninstall and reinstall nvda.
I have systems with multiple accounts and you don't just switch accounts and run nvda and then hope it works the same.
It shouldn't do this though.
On my personal system I have uac off because of older software but everything else has it active for security reasons and I don't encounter issues until I need to install something and then alt y is good for you.

On 6/03/2017 10:32 a.m., Simon Jaeger wrote:
Hi all,
Subject line pretty much says it all. If I'm on a non-admin account and
I run something as the administrator account, a lot of controls (such as
list views, tree views etc) won't read properly. Anyone have any
workarounds? This is no ta common issue and I suspect it's not easily
solvable either, but I figure there's no harm in asking.

Simon



.


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

 

I couldn't find the areas to update my devit card, wich is why I had my mom go in to my account and update it fore me.

I shouldn't have had to do that but I couldn't get my account updated

On 3/5/2017 6:40 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hmmm you don't need your mum to update anything.
Now if you are under 13 then you probably do.
Your profile will be restricted and that is probably it.
But unless you have some seriously crazy mum you shouldn't allow others to control your stuff.



On 6/03/2017 6:19 a.m., The Wolf wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.





.


Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

 

Hmmm you don't need your mum to update anything.
Now if you are under 13 then you probably do.
Your profile will be restricted and that is probably it.
But unless you have some seriously crazy mum you shouldn't allow others to control your stuff.

On 6/03/2017 6:19 a.m., The Wolf wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things are
no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent order it
takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for the order,
but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for example. I
can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.




.


Re: Basic overview I'm navigating Thunderbird with NVDA

 

hmmm I have never synced address books with gmail but its good to know.

On 6/03/2017 6:25 a.m., Tony James wrote:
hi, the contacts ad-on simply allows contacts to b synced between
Thunderbird and gmail.


On 3/5/2017 12:16 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you be kind enough and explain this contact add on? Thank You.

On 3/5/2017 9:11 AM, Tony James wrote:
hi Jean and all, I managed to get the contacts ad-on and I also got my
mail threaded. Now its just a matter of playing around with the program
to learn how it works. is the calendar function usable with nvda? it
wasn't covered in the tutorial


On 3/5/2017 7:37 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Tony,


To bring your mail contacts down from GMail, you must set up GMail
from the web interface to an IMap or pop3 setting. This is a bit
involved. If you need further instructions, I or someone else can
give them.



On 3/5/2017 1:42 AM, Tony James wrote:

Hi, I got it sorted now. 2 more questions for now. first, can
thunderbird group messages by thread and how do u bring your gmail
contacts down?


On 3/5/2017 12:40 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
Hi, Tony!

I used to prefer to sort my views by subject and descending order in
this way the newer email message was on the top which is easily to
read my messages. By doing this steps, press Alt plus V plus s, at
the same time the two items mentioned above mentioned should be check
Robert Mendoza
On 3/5/2017 12:53 PM, Tony James wrote:

Hi Jean, yes this is very helpful. I'm using Thunderbird to
reply. Maybe this is also covered in the tutorial as well, but is
there a way to have Thunderbird show most recent messages first?


On 3/4/2017 4:25 PM, Gene New Zeal and wrote:

Hi


the other thing that has changed in mozilla thunder bird is where
the attachments can be found now. They are under the message menu
which should be stated in the tutorial of its move and as they
used to be under the file menu to insert a attachment is still
under the file menu.


Otherwise i do not think mozilla thunder bird has changed much as
i use it all of the time.


Hope it helps


Gene nz




On 5/03/2017 10:03 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


A few years back i did a tutorial on using mozilla thunder bird
along with navigating it and so on and also based at a new user
to mozilla thunder bird. this was when written using nvda and
still is the same concept to use. the chat part does not work
with thunder bird with face book though but am sure other might
when set up.


The tutorial can be found on my web site at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


That link will take you straight to the mozilla thunder bird page
i wrote and there is a couple of audio recording to.


you might find other stuff of interest on the website the nvda
pages are written for the desk top computer and if you go to the
home page it will take you to the main page where you can find
other blindness related material.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 5/03/2017 12:47 AM, Tony James wrote:
Hi, I am using NVDA 16.4 and the latest version of Thunderbird.
Does anyone happen to have a tutorial on how to navigate this
program using nvda? Thx

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Re: Google Docs

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

hmm, might have to try that

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Brandon,

           I realize it's a work-around, but have you considered downloading Google Drive Sync for your PC?  It gives you access to your Google Drive in a way that's much more "native Windows" rather than web-based.  It's worth a shot trying it since it's free.
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Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

have you tried the amazon.com/access/

----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?


I can confirm that I am just using the regular site as I always have.
As I said, I could purchase something if I had to but the layout of
the entire site is totally different and I cannot do things like view
full order summaries or cancel or modify orders.

On 3/5/17, Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> wrote:
Hello all,
I also just purchased some test strips for my blood glucose test meter and
had no problems at all in doing so. It seems to be working fine. What it
sounds like is that somehow the accessibility layout is being used.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
On Mar 5, 2017, at 3:49 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:

I bought a LP in amazon.com at about 30 mins ago and it worked fine for
me.


El 05/03/2017 a las 16:50, kelby carlson escribió:
This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Do you think there's a slight glitch?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lenron
Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

last week the site seem to be working fine.

On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
Hi everyone

I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday, and had no
trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.

Take care

James

On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
from Amazon was 2 years ago.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
kelby carlson
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
to buy products directly from the manufacturer.

On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
I had to get my mom to update my payment methods

so it isn't just you.
On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or
two?
The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So,
for
example.
I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.







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Re: drag and drop?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the following page will help you for thunder bird. Just jump down to the
section that says about rearranging the headers and drag and drop to
move them around. Just jump down by headings to that section.


The link to this page is
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There may be other stuff you might be interested in on my other pages as
well that come off this one.


hope it helps.


gene nz

On 6/03/2017 11:04 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:
Could someone point me to a page that tells how to use the mouse with
NVDA? Like dragging and dropping? Trying to configure thunderbird


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Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Likewise. I can get to orders as well.
 
Kelby, tell us step by step the process that you're using to do this, down to exactly what links you're hitting enter on, etc.
 
Also, what browser are you using, and what version of Windows?
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: mk360
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Ok, now I cancelled the LP and it worked. also I opened the details page
of an other order and again, it worked.


El 05/03/2017 a las 18:44, kelby carlson escribió:
> I can confirm that I am just using the regular site as I always have.
> As I said, I could purchase something if I had to but the layout of
> the entire site is totally different and I cannot do things like view
> full order summaries or cancel or modify orders.
>
> On 3/5/17, Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I also just purchased some test strips for my blood glucose test meter and
>> had no problems at all in doing so. It seems to be working fine. What it
>> sounds like is that somehow the accessibility layout is being used.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg Wocher
>>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 3:49 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a LP in amazon.com at about 30 mins ago and it worked fine for
>>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>> El 05/03/2017 a las 16:50, kelby carlson escribió:
>>>> This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
>>>> had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
>>>> there anymore.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
>>>>> Do you think there's a slight glitch?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Lenron
>>>>> Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>>>>>
>>>>> last week the site seem to be working fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday,  and had no
>>>>>> trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
>>>>>>> from Amazon was 2 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> kelby carlson
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
>>>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
>>>>>>> to buy products directly from the manufacturer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I had to get my mom to update my payment methods
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so it isn't just you.
>>>>>>>> On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or
>>>>>>>>> two?
>>>>>>>>> The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
>>>>>>>>> are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
>>>>>>>>> order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
>>>>>>>>> the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So,
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> example.
>>>>>>>>> I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lenron Brown
>>>>> Cell: 985-271-2832
>>>>> Skype: ron.brown762
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


They must be still having issues, as I cannot get my Echo to play any my Kindle books by saying Alexa, play my Kindle book, then the book title, but that's not for this list. The point I'm making though is, Gene very likely is on to something here. It wouldn't surprise me if they've been having some glitches lately, although as far as the website goes, things have not ever seemed to not work.
 
Chris.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Hi


I read on the weekend there was a wide spread outage with them, maybe it has been fixed now or is it more navigation of it. The outage wouldive affected a few areas.


Gene nz



On 6/03/2017 9:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I've tried personally to navigate with JAWS, NVDA, and Narrator all 3 with Firefox, Chrome, and IE. I even tried with Edge, which, given the state of accessibility in general with Edge in consideration, all things considered, even that! worked fairly decently.
 
I also tried, just for the record with Chrome using Chromevox, and I've even just tested navigating around with Safari on the mac with Voiceover, and in all above cases, I'm currently finding at least on my end that things are working as expected.
 
Chris.
 
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Do you have another browser?  I'm not saying the site hasn't changed but I'm skeptical.  I would expect to see a flood of messages on all three sites I follow if it had to the extent you describe.  If you have another browser, try it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Do you think there's a slight glitch?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
> Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>
> last week the site seem to be working fine.
>
> On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday,  and had no
>> trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>
>>> I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
>>> from Amazon was 2 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>>>
>>> Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
>>> to buy products directly from the manufacturer.
>>>
>>> On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>>>> I had to get my mom to update my payment methods
>>>>
>>>> so it isn't just you.
>>>> On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
>>>>> The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
>>>>> are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
>>>>> order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
>>>>> the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for
>>>>> example.
>>>>> I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
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> Cell: 985-271-2832
> Skype: ron.brown762
>
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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
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Re: Amazon No Longer Accessible?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

I was using the full fledged when I tested earlier. Though I confess, guilty as charged, I used to use the mobile version at:
 
 
I found that you couldn't do half the things you can with the full website, and honestly, now, the full website is beautiful! in my opinion.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

For some reason my phones email is being really stupid today. It bottom posted my reply so I am reposting it.

On Mar 5, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Do you have another browser?  I'm not saying the site hasn't changed but I'm skeptical.  I would expect to see a flood of messages on all three sites I follow if it had to the extent you describe.  If you have another browser, try it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?

This was specifically in the last day or so. The layout of the site
had completely changed and a lot of the options simply aren't even
there anymore.

On 3/5/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Do you think there's a slight glitch?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lenron
> Sent: March-05-17 11:24 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>
> last week the site seem to be working fine.
>
> On 3/5/17, James AUSTIN <james.londonsw15@...> wrote:
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I bought some USB memory sticks from Amazon on Thursday,  and had no
>> trouble at all in searching for and purchasing them.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> James
>>
>> On 05/03/2017 19:07, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>
>>> I'll probably have to do the same thing. The last time I bought a CD
>>> from Amazon was 2 years ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> kelby carlson
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Amazon No Longer Accessible?
>>>
>>> Well, guess I'll have to look for a different online retailer or try
>>> to buy products directly from the manufacturer.
>>>
>>> On 3/5/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
>>>> I had to get my mom to update my payment methods
>>>>
>>>> so it isn't just you.
>>>> On 3/5/2017 7:24 AM, kelby carlson wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone else had serious issues with Amazon in the last day or two?
>>>>> The website has totally changed its layout and a bunch of things
>>>>> are no onger accessible. For example, when I click on a recent
>>>>> order it takes me to a page where it only says how much I paid for
>>>>> the order, but there's no link or anything to manage my order. So, for
>>>>> example.
>>>>> I can't cancel a Kindle pre-order that I no longer want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Cell: 985-271-2832
> Skype: ron.brown762
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