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Re: the list
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
In my experience several things go wrong. Firstly, the server you post through can get on a black list or the place youu are, like virgin or bloggs.com can be seen as unreachable. also inactivity by you can be seen to mean you are not using it. In all cases some list servers drop your account. I don't know about this one, but certainly I've had this happen on yahoo and freelists in the past.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] the list I am the moderator. I don't see anything the owner or moderator should do. For some unknown reason, you had to resubscribe. Things happen now and then. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the list Ok, thanks. I hope the moderators are seeing this because I did not unsubscribe from the list but the server lost my subscription. Seems strange to me that this would happen. Dan Beaver On 3/13/2017 5:37 PM, Michael Capelle wrote: yes, it is.
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Re: accessible antivirus
Felix G.
Hi! I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for potentially unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition to general malware like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best behavior analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if the file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes far beyond what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics. Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order but I find myself resorting to flat review sometimes.Greetings, Chris <chrismedley@...> schrieb am Mo., 13. März 2017 um 21:25 Uhr:
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Re: calendars on Google
Arnþór Helgason
I have only been able to use the caalendars on Google by using Firefox or Windows Explorer. Recently Chrome doesn't work at all.
Arnthor Helgason -- --- Arnþór Helgason, Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador Formaður/chairman Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society Tjarnarbóli 14, 170 Seltjarnarnesi. Sími | Phone: +354 5611703 Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 arnthor.helgason@simnet.is arnthor.helgason@gmail.com kim@kim.is http://kim.is http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Dejan Ristic
Let me suppose so, too. On 3/14/2017 2:20 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene
I'm sorry, when I replied, I thought someone else
had sent these comments. I think my e-mail program may have gotten behind
and read the wrong name. That information is important and completely
changes what we can infer. Please include details even if you don't know
if they are important when reporting problems. Everything you reported in
your last message was important. As I said, this seems very likely perhaps
definitely to be a Chrome problem. I hhope it has been reported. You
may want to report it as well. we'll see if we get any indications
that others have already done so.
Gene
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From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have used the latest
update since its release. I have detected the problem on the given pages. I do
not use other pages with flash contents. The only thing I know is that it has
never happened before. It is yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is
interesting about all is that when I use the arrows, I can find the embedded
object area. It will not work for me only when I try to get it by O, or shift
plus O. On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene
It appears, then, that the embedded objects should
be able to be found on these pages by using the arrow keys. This appears
to be the Chrome developers, breaking something related to accessibility roughly
on schedule. they seem to break something about every six or eight months
since I've been paying attention to Chrome for about a year and a
half.
Gene
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From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have used the latest
update since its release. I have detected the problem on the given pages. I do
not use other pages with flash contents. The only thing I know is that it has
never happened before. It is yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is
interesting about all is that when I use the arrows, I can find the embedded
object area. It will not work for me only when I try to get it by O, or shift
plus O. On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Fair enough.
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Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene
I almost never use Chrome and it isn't current on
my Windows 7 machine. I can let it update and test it later tonight on
that machine if you don't get definite answers before then. I can check
the site later after I let Chrome update. But I can't switch machines
now. I was able to see an embedded object when I used my older version of
Chrome on my XP machine. I think this is a problem introduced in
Chrome. My older version of Chrome is still new enough that it should have
played an HTML5 stream if it were available. Let's try to be more
certain. Try going to the first link you gave and, starting from the top
of the page, look for button the pag3e. Do you see anything like a play
button and other buttons you might see in a player? If so, then the new
Chrome is using an HTML stream.
Gene
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From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only Gene, Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio
live streaming programme. http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html Take care, Dejan On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Dejan Ristic
It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have used
the latest update since its release. I have detected the problem
on the given pages. I do not use other pages with flash contents.
The only thing I know is that it has never happened before. It is
yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is interesting about
all is that when I use the arrows, I can find the embedded object
area. It will not work for me only when I try to get it by O, or
shift plus O. On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Gene
I have no objection to the original discussion
continuing.
When such personal disputes come up, will list
members please make a point of reading all their male before
responding? And it would be a good idea to wait a while to see if the
thread is resolved before commenting. In this case the dispute had been
resolved before another message was sent by a list member not originally in the
dispute. It is nnot appropriate for small disputes like this to become
topics for general discussion.
Gene
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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it is
related to specifically the updater software, and not regarding the comments
that were made, or would you rather it be closed period altogether.
Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your
decision.
Chris.
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene
Did this problem happen with earlier versions of
Chrome or only with the latest one. How long have you used the latest
update? Does that problem happen in general or only on a small number of
pages? I'm going to see if I can use the sites. they may be
restricted and many locations may not be able to use them.
Gene
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From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only Gene, Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio
live streaming programme. http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html Take care, Dejan On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it is
related to specifically the updater software, and not regarding the comments
that were made, or would you rather it be closed period altogether.
Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your
decision.
Chris.
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Re: Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud
Hi,
<snip I am a big fan of comic books and graphic novels, but can't read them easily because of a cognitive impairment. PL] A screen reader is the wrong tool for the job. Graphic novels and comics have images that need to be described in context therefore even current image description solutions will fail because they do not retain context. Optical character recognition will not get you anywhere either because there is not much text. A better option is to consider places such as comicsempower.com who produce comics and graphic novels in accessible form. They incorporate image descriptions in the flow of the narrative. Pranav
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Re: Is NVDA right for me?
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go. Pranav
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Dejan Ristic
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is
a radio live streaming programme.
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html Take care, Dejan On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Is NVDA right for me?
Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
thanks for that, sounds interesting. That
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is sort of how I'm using Narrator at the moment, although its a bit random what it chooses to read.
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From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com>
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Re: Is NVDA right for me?
Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
I've not heard of Windows Eyes, but I have Windows
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Narrator. The problem with Narrator is it just never stops talking, and you can't control what it reads. For instance, I copied and pasted your email into Narrator, and and first it doesn't read it, but later it just reads it over and over without stopping :) If anyone can explain Narrator to me, that might suffice for my needs, if I could ever get it to work efficiently. If not, I will probably give NVDA a try a pay for the voice. Thank you everyone who has responded to my messages.
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From: Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net>
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Gene
From the moderator:
Please close this discussion. A tiny incident
like this doesn't require a long six messages or more thread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater download link. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater get over your self, I don't mind helping but I don't have the time to hold your hand. On 13/03/2017 22:45, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Ouch! That was a little bit rude, don't ya think? Alas, I'm sorry to > burden your time. > > I'll do just that. NO worries. You definitely do have a valid > point/suggestion, but you ultimately, at the end of the day could a > been a little more polite in your correspondance, frankly. > --- > Christopher Gilland > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries > > http://www.gshministry.org > (980) 500-9575 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 6:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > google it sorry don't have time to give the download link. > > On 13/03/2017 22:14, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > > Where do I download it? > > --- > > Christopher Gilland > > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries > > > > http://www.gshministry.org > > (980) 500-9575 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 6:00 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > > Hi, I have used this for about a year. it is good but I > have had it > > miss a program that ccleaner found but over all it is good > works with > > both 32bit programs and 64bit as well. > > > > On 13/03/2017 17:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > > > Tell me more about this so called Puran Utilities. > > > > > > What is it. Is it well priced, how good is the accessibility > that it > > > provides, in your opinion, etc? > > > --- > > > Christopher Gilland > > > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries > > > > > > http://www.gshministry.org > > > (980) 500-9575 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > *From:* john s <mailto:jschwery@...> > > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 4:54 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > > > > I tried Revo and wasn't impressed. I thought the > > > uninstaller in the Puran Utilities was much > > > better. That installer took out things that Revo left > behind. > > > > > > At 04:47 AM 3/13/2017, you wrote: > > > >I think the ninite one allows you to bundle > > > >several programs together and install in one go, > > > >but yes, in the end you are tied to whatever software > a site > > has. > > > > > > > > > > > >I see that the new revo although updated is > > > >still completely inaccessible to us. > > > >Its such a shame when a user interface is changed for > the worse. > > > >B Brian > > > > > > > >bglists@... > > > >Sent via blueyonder. > > > >Please address personal email to:- > > > >briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > > > >in the display name field. > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin > > > >Cussick via Groups.Io" > > > <the.big.white.shepherd@... > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>> > > > >To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> > > > >Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:26 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > > > > > > > > > >>fare point, but then again the file hippo program is > just the > > > same I think? > > > >> > > > >>On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > > > >>>Like most of these though, it can only update apps that > > exist on > > > the site. > > > >>>In the real world many programs do have their own > check for > > updates > > > >>>function now. The snag can be that the web site they > route > > to is not > > > >>>accessible. > > > >>>Brian > > > >>> > > > >>>bglists@... > > > >>>Sent via blueyonder. > > > >>>Please address personal email to:- > > > >>>briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > > > >>>in the display name field. > > > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via > > Groups.Io" > > > >>><the.big.white.shepherd@... > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...> > > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>> > > > >>>To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> > > > >>>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM > > > >>>Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>>Ninite is good www.ninite.com > <http://www.ninite.com> <http://www.ninite.com> > > <http://www.ninite.com> hope this > > > helps. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote: > > > >>>>>Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? > > Iâ?Tve > > > been using > > > >>>>>Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if > > there was > > > anything > > > >>>>>better. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Sent from Mail > > <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > > >>>>>Windows 10 > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud
Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Thanks for re-posting that! I'm not sure if I got any responses, I also may have deleted those accidentally :)
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Dennis L
I have the sappy5 version of eloquence and I don’t notice this when using nvda.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 11:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
%The problem has already been described as a slow start of Eloquence on boot up. No recording is useful unless there are other problems that haven't been described and that can't be adequately described in words. Unresponsiveness can easily be described in words as well.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
If your having problems with the code factory eloquence I would contact them and maybe make a recording so they know what the exact problem is.
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