Re: Is NVDA right for me?
If you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, you can get Window Eyes for free. At 02:27 PM 3/14/2017, you wrote: Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
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From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
Pranav
John
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Re: Is NVDA right for me?
Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
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-----Original Message----- From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
Pranav
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Re: Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud
Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
My disability is only neurological, meaning that if I concentrate or read text I get very sick and weak and get a lot of physical pain.
I am able to see pictures, however, so I just need a program that could extract the text from the dialogue bubble.
Not sure if an OCR program would do that to a comic book, does anyone know?
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-----Original Message----- From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud
Hi, <snip I am a big fan of comic books and graphic novels, but can't read them easily because of a cognitive impairment. PL] A screen reader is the wrong tool for the job. Graphic novels and comics have images that need to be described in context therefore even current image description solutions will fail because they do not retain context. Optical character recognition will not get you anywhere either because there is not much text. A better option is to consider places such as comicsempower.com who produce comics and graphic novels in accessible form. They incorporate image descriptions in the flow of the narrative.
Pranav
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Re: [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?
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Hi,
First of all, sorry for the off topic.
About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with
it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible
modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking
this here).
Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.
mk.
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[Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?
Hi,
First of all, sorry for the off topic. About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here). Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list. mk.
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
We both agree. I can find embedded object, but not the buttons. I
use NVDA in English. It is only that I find the buttons in IE 11.
It was possible with Firefox too, but now it is not.
On 3/14/2017 3:02 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if the language being used in NVDA or in Windows
settings has anything to do with the command. I use English and
the command is the letter b for move to next button. That
should move you to player buttons if HTML 5 is being used and if
the buttons are accessible. But from your last description,
that in Chrome you can find the embedded object by arrowing to
it, that means that standard buttons aren't being used. HTML5
usually uses standard buttons but, as you know, Flash uses its
own buttons.
IGene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Hi Gene,
Let me try to give you a reply to your question, although I'm
not going to promise that I shall be more certain at the moment.
As for the buttons from the first link, I'm unable to see them
in any of the browsers, except Internet Explorer 11, currently
installed on my machine.
How do I find the buttons?
When I open the link in IE, I hit O to get me to the embedded
object area. Then, I hit space, and the buttons play and pause
are before me. I was able to do the same in Firefox before.
As for Firefox, Chrome, and Opera now, I am able to do the
following:
When I find the embedded object area, and when I press space on
it, the only thing I can do is switch to the focus mode, and
turn the volume up and down by using the up and down arrows.
The same goes for the second link.
On 3/14/2017 2:10 AM, Gene wrote:
I almost never use Chrome and it isn't current on my
Windows 7 machine. I can let it update and test it later
tonight on that machine if you don't get definite answers
before then. I can check the site later after I let Chrome
update. But I can't switch machines now. I was able to see
an embedded object when I used my older version of Chrome on
my XP machine. I think this is a problem introduced in
Chrome. My older version of Chrome is still new enough that
it should have played an HTML5 stream if it were available.
Let's try to be more certain. Try going to the first link you
gave and, starting from the top of the page, look for button
the pag3e. Do you see anything like a play button and other
buttons you might see in a player? If so, then the new Chrome
is using an HTML stream.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter.
It is a radio live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take care,
Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie
or audio where this happens? When people report a problem
on web pages, if possible, an address to a page where the
problem occurs should be given. This may or may not be a
problem with Chrome. It may be that for some reason, other
browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and other browsers
are using Flash on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects by pressing O,
and/or
Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens only in
Google Chrome.
NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No previous
embedded object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even Opera, or even Avast!
Safe Zone
Browser, it won't fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it is only possible to
issue the
embedded object-related command when in the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
(64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or down manually on a web page, I can find the
embedded
object area on the page.
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Maybe you ddidn't receive my first
message.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
hi Gene, sorry I
should not have responded to this on list this is a good egsample of not
reading all mail first. but as said this has been
resolved. but I did not see any mail to date saying to stop speaking
about this. On 14/03/2017 00:54, Gene wrote: > I have no
objection tothe original discussion continuing. > > When such
personal disputes come up, will list members please make a > point of
reading all their male before responding? And it would be a > good idea to
wait a while to see if the thread is resolved before > commenting.
In this case the dispute had been resolved before another > message was
sent by a list member not originally in the dispute. It is > nnot
appropriate for small disputes like this to become topics for > general
discussion. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- >
*From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland < mailto:clgilland07@...> >
*Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io < mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > Is it ok if
we continue the thread as long as it is related to > specifically the
updater software, and not regarding the comments that > were made, or
would you rather it be closed period altogether. > > Please clarify.
Either way, I'm ok with your decision. > > Chris. > >
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
I don't know if the language being used in NVDA or
in Windows settings has anything to do with the command. I use English and
the command is the letter b for move to next button. That should move you
to player buttons if HTML 5 is being used and if the buttons are
accessible. But from your last description, that in Chrome you can find
the embedded object by arrowing to it, that means that standard buttons aren't
being used. HTML5 usually uses standard buttons but, as you know, Flash
uses its own buttons.
IGene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Hi Gene,
Let me try to give you a reply to your question, although I'm not going to
promise that I shall be more certain at the moment.
As for the buttons from the first link, I'm unable to see them in any of the
browsers, except Internet Explorer 11, currently installed on my
machine.
How do I find the buttons?
When I open the link in IE, I hit O to get me to the embedded object area.
Then, I hit space, and the buttons play and pause are before me. I was able to
do the same in Firefox before.
As for Firefox, Chrome, and Opera now, I am able to do the following:
When I find the embedded object area, and when I press space on it, the only
thing I can do is switch to the focus mode, and turn the volume up and down by
using the up and down arrows.
The same goes for the second link.
On 3/14/2017 2:10 AM, Gene wrote:
I almost never use Chrome and it isn't current on my Windows 7
machine. I can let it update and test it later tonight on that machine
if you don't get definite answers before then. I can check the site
later after I let Chrome update. But I can't switch machines now.
I was able to see an embedded object when I used my older version of Chrome on
my XP machine. I think this is a problem introduced in Chrome. My
older version of Chrome is still new enough that it should have played an
HTML5 stream if it were available. Let's try to be more
certain. Try going to the first link you gave and, starting from the top
of the page, look for button the pag3e. Do you see anything like a play
button and other buttons you might see in a player? If so, then the new
Chrome is using an HTML stream.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio
live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take
care, Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie or audio
where this happens? When people report a problem on web pages, if
possible, an address to a page where the problem occurs should be
given. This may or may not be a problem with Chrome. It may be
that for some reason, other browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and
other browsers are using Flash on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects
by pressing O, and/or Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens
only in Google Chrome. NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No
previous embedded object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even
Opera, or even Avast! Safe Zone Browser, it won't
fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it
is only possible to issue the embedded object-related command when in
the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA
version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7
Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or
down manually on a web page, I can find the embedded object area on the
page.
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Hi where can you get this Emsisoft Antimalware from?
Also is it free or is there A charge
for this program?
And how easy is it to set up and
install?
Well it work with Jaws 18 as
well?
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus
Hi!
I use Emsisoft Antimalware.
It's fast, scans for potentially unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition
to general malware like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best
behavior analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if the
file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes far beyond what
is usually referred to as detection by heuristics. Accessibility-wise most
things I need are in the tab order but I find myself resorting to flat review
sometimes. Greetings, Felix
Windows defender is already built into windows
ten so you don’t need any other anti virus program
And its accessible
Casey
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Hi Gene,
Let me try to give you a reply to your question, although I'm not
going to promise that I shall be more certain at the moment.
As for the buttons from the first link, I'm unable to see them in
any of the browsers, except Internet Explorer 11, currently
installed on my machine.
How do I find the buttons?
When I open the link in IE, I hit O to get me to the embedded
object area. Then, I hit space, and the buttons play and pause are
before me. I was able to do the same in Firefox before.
As for Firefox, Chrome, and Opera now, I am able to do the
following:
When I find the embedded object area, and when I press space on
it, the only thing I can do is switch to the focus mode, and turn
the volume up and down by using the up and down arrows.
The same goes for the second link.
On 3/14/2017 2:10 AM, Gene wrote:
I almost never use Chrome and it isn't current on my Windows
7 machine. I can let it update and test it later tonight on
that machine if you don't get definite answers before then. I
can check the site later after I let Chrome update. But I can't
switch machines now. I was able to see an embedded object when
I used my older version of Chrome on my XP machine. I think
this is a problem introduced in Chrome. My older version of
Chrome is still new enough that it should have played an HTML5
stream if it were available. Let's try to be more certain. Try
going to the first link you gave and, starting from the top of
the page, look for button the pag3e. Do you see anything like a
play button and other buttons you might see in a player? If so,
then the new Chrome is using an HTML stream.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It
is a radio live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take care,
Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie or
audio where this happens? When people report a problem on web
pages, if possible, an address to a page where the problem
occurs should be given. This may or may not be a problem with
Chrome. It may be that for some reason, other browsers are
using HTML5 for the stream and other browsers are using Flash
on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object
when playing something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects by pressing O,
and/or
Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens only in Google
Chrome.
NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No previous embedded
object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even Opera, or even Avast!
Safe Zone
Browser, it won't fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it is only possible to
issue the
embedded object-related command when in the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
(64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or down manually on a web page, I can find the
embedded
object area on the page.
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Hi Felix,
This does notsound like anti virus, but more like anti lamware.
On 3/14/2017 4:52 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi!
I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for
potentially unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition
to general malware like trojans and worms, and has, to my
mind, the best behavior analysis around, spotting
backdoors from how they behave even if the file itself is
unknown, to provide just one example. This goes far beyond
what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics.
Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order
but I find myself resorting to flat review sometimes.
Greetings,
Felix
Windows defender is
already built into windows ten so you don’t need any
other anti virus program
And its accessible
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
hi Gene, sorry I should not have responded to this on list this is a good egsample of not reading all mail first. but as said this has been resolved. but I did not see any mail to date saying to stop speaking about this.
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On 14/03/2017 00:54, Gene wrote: I have no objection to the original discussion continuing.
When such personal disputes come up, will list members please make a point of reading all their male before responding? And it would be a good idea to wait a while to see if the thread is resolved before commenting. In this case the dispute had been resolved before another message was sent by a list member not originally in the dispute. It is nnot appropriate for small disputes like this to become topics for general discussion.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it is related to specifically the updater software, and not regarding the comments that were made, or would you rather it be closed period altogether.
Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your decision.
Chris.
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
I don't think it has anything to do with you. we have sorted it out so keep your hands off the keyboard.
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On 13/03/2017 23:38, Dennis L wrote: That was a little rude don't you think? All that was asked for was a download link.
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
get over your self, I don't mind helping but I don't have the time to hold your hand.
On 13/03/2017 22:45, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Ouch! That was a little bit rude, don't ya think? Alas, I'm sorry to burden your time.
I'll do just that. NO worries. You definitely do have a valid point/suggestion, but you ultimately, at the end of the day could a been a little more polite in your correspondance, frankly. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 6:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
google it sorry don't have time to give the download link.
On 13/03/2017 22:14, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Where do I download it? > --- > Christopher Gilland > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries > > http://www.gshministry.org > (980) 500-9575 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 6:00 PM > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > Hi, I have used this for about a year. it is good but I have had it > miss a program that ccleaner found but over all it is good works with > both 32bit programs and 64bit as well. > > On 13/03/2017 17:16, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > > Tell me more about this so called Puran Utilities. > > > > What is it. Is it well priced, how good is the accessibility that it > > provides, in your opinion, etc? > > --- > > Christopher Gilland > > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries > > > > http://www.gshministry.org > > (980) 500-9575 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* john s <mailto:jschwery@centurylink.net> > > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 4:54 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > > I tried Revo and wasn't impressed. I thought the > > uninstaller in the Puran Utilities was much > > better. That installer took out things that Revo left behind. > > > > At 04:47 AM 3/13/2017, you wrote: > > >I think the ninite one allows you to bundle > > >several programs together and install in one go, > > >but yes, in the end you are tied to whatever software a site > has. > > > > > > > > >I see that the new revo although updated is > > >still completely inaccessible to us. > > >Its such a shame when a user interface is changed for the worse. > > >B Brian > > > > > >bglists@blueyonder.co.uk > > >Sent via blueyonder. > > >Please address personal email to:- > > >briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' > > >in the display name field. > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin > > >Cussick via Groups.Io" > > <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>> > > >To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> > > >Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:26 PM > > >Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > > > > > > > >>fare point, but then again the file hippo program is just the > > same I think? > > >> > > >>On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > > >>>Like most of these though, it can only update apps that > exist on > > the site. > > >>>In the real world many programs do have their own check for > updates > > >>>function now. The snag can be that the web site they route > to is not > > >>>accessible. > > >>>Brian > > >>> > > >>>bglists@blueyonder.co.uk > > >>>Sent via blueyonder. > > >>>Please address personal email to:- > > >>>briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' > > >>>in the display name field. > > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via > Groups.Io" > > >>><the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> > > <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>> > > >>>To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> > > >>>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM > > >>>Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>Ninite is good www.ninite.com <http://www.ninite.com> <http://www.ninite.com> > <http://www.ninite.com> hope this > > helps. > > >>>> > > >>>>On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote: > > >>>>>Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows?
> Iâ?Tve > > been using > > >>>>>Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if > there was > > anything > > >>>>>better. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>Sent from Mail > <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > > >>>>>Windows 10 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > >
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
In my experience several things go wrong. Firstly, the server you post through can get on a black list or the place youu are, like virgin or bloggs.com can be seen as unreachable. also inactivity by you can be seen to mean you are not using it. In all cases some list servers drop your account. I don't know about this one, but certainly I've had this happen on yahoo and freelists in the past. Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] the list I am the moderator. I don't see anything the owner or moderator should do. For some unknown reason, you had to resubscribe. Things happen now and then. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the list Ok, thanks. I hope the moderators are seeing this because I did not unsubscribe from the list but the server lost my subscription. Seems strange to me that this would happen. Dan Beaver On 3/13/2017 5:37 PM, Michael Capelle wrote: yes, it is.
-----Original Message----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:37 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] the list
Hi,
Is this the correct list for NVDA stuff? I thought it was but earlier I tried to post a question and got an error saying the server wasn't configured correctly. It said the reason was because my email address wasn't known on the server.
I have since rejoined and it look like it is working again.
Thanks.
Dan Beaver
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Hi!
I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for potentially unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition to general malware like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best behavior analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if the file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes far beyond what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics. Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order but I find myself resorting to flat review sometimes. Greetings, Felix
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Windows defender is already built into windows ten so you don’t need any other anti virus program And its accessible
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I have only been able to use the caalendars on Google by using Firefox or Windows Explorer. Recently Chrome doesn't work at all. Arnthor Helgason -- --- Arnþór Helgason, Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador Formaður/chairman Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society Tjarnarbóli 14, 170 Seltjarnarnesi. Sími | Phone: +354 5611703 Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 arnthor.helgason@simnet.is arnthor.helgason@gmail.com kim@kim.is http://kim.ishttp://arnthorhelgason.blog.ishttp://hljod.blog.is
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Let me suppose so, too.
On 3/14/2017 2:20 AM, Gene wrote:
It appears, then, that the embedded objects should be able to
be found on these pages by using the arrow keys. This appears
to be the Chrome developers, breaking something related to
accessibility roughly on schedule. they seem to break something
about every six or eight months since I've been paying attention
to Chrome for about a year and a half.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have
used the latest update since its release. I have detected the
problem on the given pages. I do not use other pages with flash
contents. The only thing I know is that it has never happened
before. It is yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is
interesting about all is that when I use the arrows, I can find
the embedded object area. It will not work for me only when I
try to get it by O, or shift plus O.
On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Did this problem happen with earlier versions of Chrome or
only with the latest one. How long have you used the latest
update? Does that problem happen in general or only on a
small number of pages? I'm going to see if I can use the
sites. they may be restricted and many locations may not be
able to use them.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter.
It is a radio live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take care,
Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie
or audio where this happens? When people report a problem
on web pages, if possible, an address to a page where the
problem occurs should be given. This may or may not be a
problem with Chrome. It may be that for some reason, other
browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and other browsers
are using Flash on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded
object when playing something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects by pressing O,
and/or
Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens only in
Google Chrome.
NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No previous
embedded object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even Opera, or even Avast!
Safe Zone
Browser, it won't fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it is only possible to
issue the
embedded object-related command when in the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
(64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or down manually on a web page, I can find the
embedded
object area on the page.
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
I'm sorry, when I replied, I thought someone else
had sent these comments. I think my e-mail program may have gotten behind
and read the wrong name. That information is important and completely
changes what we can infer. Please include details even if you don't know
if they are important when reporting problems. Everything you reported in
your last message was important. As I said, this seems very likely perhaps
definitely to be a Chrome problem. I hhope it has been reported. You
may want to report it as well. we'll see if we get any indications
that others have already done so.
Gene
----- Original Message
-----
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have used the latest
update since its release. I have detected the problem on the given pages. I do
not use other pages with flash contents. The only thing I know is that it has
never happened before. It is yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is
interesting about all is that when I use the arrows, I can find the embedded
object area. It will not work for me only when I try to get it by O, or shift
plus O.
On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Did this problem happen with earlier versions of Chrome or only with the
latest one. How long have you used the latest update? Does that
problem happen in general or only on a small number of pages? I'm going
to see if I can use the sites. they may be restricted and many locations
may not be able to use them.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio
live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take
care, Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie or audio
where this happens? When people report a problem on web pages, if
possible, an address to a page where the problem occurs should be
given. This may or may not be a problem with Chrome. It may be
that for some reason, other browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and
other browsers are using Flash on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects
by pressing O, and/or Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens
only in Google Chrome. NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No
previous embedded object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even
Opera, or even Avast! Safe Zone Browser, it won't
fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it
is only possible to issue the embedded object-related command when in
the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA
version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7
Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or
down manually on a web page, I can find the embedded object area on the
page.
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Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only
It appears, then, that the embedded objects should
be able to be found on these pages by using the arrow keys. This appears
to be the Chrome developers, breaking something related to accessibility roughly
on schedule. they seem to break something about every six or eight months
since I've been paying attention to Chrome for about a year and a
half.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
It did not happen with the previous Chrome versions. I have used the latest
update since its release. I have detected the problem on the given pages. I do
not use other pages with flash contents. The only thing I know is that it has
never happened before. It is yesterday that I encountered it. But, what is
interesting about all is that when I use the arrows, I can find the embedded
object area. It will not work for me only when I try to get it by O, or shift
plus O.
On 3/14/2017 1:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Did this problem happen with earlier versions of Chrome or only with the
latest one. How long have you used the latest update? Does that
problem happen in general or only on a small number of pages? I'm going
to see if I can use the sites. they may be restricted and many locations
may not be able to use them.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Gene,
Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2
The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio
live streaming programme.
Here comes the second one:
http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html
Take
care, Dejan
On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites? Can you give a link to a specific movie or audio
where this happens? When people report a problem on web pages, if
possible, an address to a page where the problem occurs should be
given. This may or may not be a problem with Chrome. It may be
that for some reason, other browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and
other browsers are using Flash on the same page.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing
something in Google Chrome only
Hi,
I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects
by pressing O, and/or Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens
only in Google Chrome. NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No
previous embedded object.
When I try the same in Firefox, or even
Opera, or even Avast! Safe Zone Browser, it won't
fail.
Note:
I am regularly in the browse mode, for it
is only possible to issue the embedded object-related command when in
the browse mode.
Google chrome version: latest.
NVDA
version: latest.
Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7
Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
Note 2:
When I arrow up or
down manually on a web page, I can find the embedded object area on the
page.
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
Fair enough.
--- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven
Ministries
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:54
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible
Application Updater
I have no objection to the original discussion
continuing.
When such personal disputes come up, will list
members please make a point of reading all their male before
responding? And it would be a good idea to wait a while to see if the
thread is resolved before commenting. In this case the dispute had been
resolved before another message was sent by a list member not originally in
the dispute. It is nnot appropriate for small disputes like this to
become topics for general discussion.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application
Updater
Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it
is related to specifically the updater software, and not regarding the
comments that were made, or would you rather it be closed period
altogether.
Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your
decision.
Chris.
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