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Re: looking for a free and accessible newsreader for UseNet searching, reading, and grabbing binary files

Kwork

#16385

Ron, thank you for the recommendation and the caution. I'm using a third party service that I've had for a while now when it was offering unlimited nmtp for $6 per month. Cox also got rid of UseNet on their end last I knew.

Travis

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a free and accessible newsreader for UseNet searching, reading, and grabbing binary files

Hi Quirk,

I used to use X News. It was very basic and it looked like a Windows Explorer type interface. Unfortunately Time Warner/Roadrunner/now of days Spectrum banned the downloading and access to binaries years ago. Be forewarned and check to see if your provider allows binary downloads.

On 3/16/2017 5:57 PM, Kwork wrote:

I'm looking for a free and accessible with NVDA newsreader that will access UseNet, including reading, searching, and will also be able to grab binary files. If there are any NVDA UseNet users here, I would appreciate any help. I'm using Windows 7, 64-bit, and NVDA 2017.1.

Travis

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Re: accessible antivirus

Felix G.

#16384

Hi!

Generally speaking, if I were currently looking for a good antimalware solution, I would look for the following:

- Dual engine approach. Two engines see more than one, and more than two is overkill.

- Surfing protection based on a list of known malware-distributing sites.

- Good behavior blocking technology that spots programs trying to open backdoors, modify the registry in unexpected ways etc.

- Protection against a wide variety of types of malware, including but not limited to viruses, worms, trojans, backdoors, adware and spyware.

So much for the list of positive characteristics. Here's what would put me off a given solution:

- Email scanning. This makes no sense as any malicious file will need to be saved to disk prior to being opened. So, classic file-based scanning on write will get them all anyway if done correctly.

- Add-ons for specific browsers, email applications, office suites etc. I'd like to be protected in general on a conceptual system level, not in a per-program way which needs updating every time I decide to install something new.

The program I suggested earlier in this thread would seem to fit the exact criteria I outlined here, therefore that's what I'm using and what I'll continue to use until any of these parameters change for the worse, at which point I'll re-evaluate.

Kind regards and hope this helps,

Felix

Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> schrieb am Fr., 17. März 2017 um 11:04 Uhr:

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Hi

I accept that there might be better antivirus programs than Defender, but what are they?

My experience with Defender on my Windows 2010 machines have been positive, up to now.

Regards

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2017 3:28 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

Computer advisors I trust say that Defender isn't as good as other good programs. There is a debate about whether and to what extent this matters because, evidently, Microsoft says that Defender will protect against malware that users are likely to encounter. I expect that if you look for information in places like PC World, Kim Komando, Life Hacker, and other reputable advisors, that many of them will say that it's better to use something else.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

I think to be fair to Defender/msse there has always to be a few people who
get a virus as its a continuous battle between the virus and malware folk
and the anti virus software writers.

Brian

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From: "Brenda" <bjnite@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

> Plese don't take this conversation off list.
>
>
> I'm glad you shared this to the list. It is very valuable to know
> accessible virus programs. I don't see how this could be construed as
> advertising.
>
>
> I have heard that Caspersky is now accessible once you can get it
> installed. If you do a google search for accessible virus programs with
> screen readers, etc, you should come upon an article by David goldfield
> about this. After he had issues with Windows Defender not catching
> viruses he investigated and chose Caspersky.
>
>
> I'm still hoping for more input from listers on antivirus programs that
> work well with NVDA and are highly rated in the sighted world or other
> folks experiences with Caspersky which is a good program.
>
>
> thanks for sharing.
>
>
> brenda
>
>
> On 3/15/2017 4:56 AM, Felix G. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> the program is subscription-based, and there is a free 30 day test
>> period.
>> It scans for viruses, worms and the like in addition to the wider
>> definition of malware including adware and spyware.
>> Here is the link:
>> http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/?id=14510978
>> So much in the interest of sharing. I think any follow-ups should be
>> discussed off-list since this is going way off topic and may easily be
>> construed as me running an ad campaign, which I am not. ;)
>> Kind regards,
>> Felix
>>
>> Casey <cwollner@... <mailto:cwollner@...>> schrieb am Di.,
>> 14. März 2017 um 14:41 Uhr:
>>
>>     Hi where can you get this Emsisoft Antimalware from?
>>     Also is it free or is there A charge for this program?
>>     And how easy is it to set up and install?
>>     Well it work with Jaws 18 as well?
>>     *From:* Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@...>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:52 AM
>>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus
>>     Hi!
>>     I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for potentially
>>     unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition to general malware
>>     like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best behavior
>>     analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if
>>     the file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes
>>     far beyond what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics.
>>     Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order but I
>>     find myself resorting to flat review sometimes.
>>     Greetings,
>>     Felix
>>     Chris <chrismedley@...
>>     <mailto:chrismedley@...>> schrieb am Mo., 13. März 2017
>>     um 21:25 Uhr:
>>
>>         Windows defender is already built into windows ten so you
>>         don’t need any other anti virus program
>>
>>         And its accessible
>>
>>
>>
>>     Casey
>>
>>
>
>

Re: accessible antivirus

Roger Stewart

#16383

I've been using Defender for quite a while now with no problems at all. There was a couple weeks where I was getting some kind of false message about Defender dealing with malicious software but when checking, I found nothing it had removed. These messages have gone away and all is good. I've also heard that Defender will be getting even better in the next version of Win 10.

Roger

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On 3/17/2017 5:03 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi

I accept that there might be better antivirus programs than Defender, but what are they?

My experience with Defender on my Windows 2010 machines have been positive, up to now.

Regards

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2017 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

Computer advisors I trust say that Defender isn't as good as other good programs. There is a debate about whether and to what extent this matters because, evidently, Microsoft says that Defender will protect against malware that users are likely to encounter. I expect that if you look for information in places like PC World, Kim Komando, Life Hacker, and other reputable advisors, that many of them will say that it's better to use something else.

Gene

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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

I think to be fair to Defender/msse there has always to be a few people who
get a virus as its a continuous battle between the virus and malware folk
and the anti virus software writers.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda" <bjnite@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

> Plese don't take this conversation off list.
>
>
> I'm glad you shared this to the list. It is very valuable to know
> accessible virus programs. I don't see how this could be construed as
> advertising.
>
>
> I have heard that Caspersky is now accessible once you can get it
> installed. If you do a google search for accessible virus programs with
> screen readers, etc, you should come upon an article by David goldfield
> about this. After he had issues with Windows Defender not catching
> viruses he investigated and chose Caspersky.
>
>
> I'm still hoping for more input from listers on antivirus programs that
> work well with NVDA and are highly rated in the sighted world or other
> folks experiences with Caspersky which is a good program.
>
>
> thanks for sharing.
>
>
> brenda
>
>
> On 3/15/2017 4:56 AM, Felix G. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> the program is subscription-based, and there is a free 30 day test
>> period.
>> It scans for viruses, worms and the like in addition to the wider
>> definition of malware including adware and spyware.
>> Here is the link:
>> http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/?id=14510978
>> So much in the interest of sharing. I think any follow-ups should be
>> discussed off-list since this is going way off topic and may easily be
>> construed as me running an ad campaign, which I am not. ;)
>> Kind regards,
>> Felix
>>
>> Casey <cwollner@... <mailto:cwollner@...>> schrieb am Di.,
>> 14. März 2017 um 14:41 Uhr:
>>
>>     Hi where can you get this Emsisoft Antimalware from?
>>     Also is it free or is there A charge for this program?
>>     And how easy is it to set up and install?
>>     Well it work with Jaws 18 as well?
>>     *From:* Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@...>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:52 AM
>>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus
>>     Hi!
>>     I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for potentially
>>     unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition to general malware
>>     like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best behavior
>>     analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if
>>     the file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes
>>     far beyond what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics.
>>     Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order but I
>>     find myself resorting to flat review sometimes.
>>     Greetings,
>>     Felix
>>     Chris <chrismedley@...
>>     <mailto:chrismedley@...>> schrieb am Mo., 13. März 2017
>>     um 21:25 Uhr:
>>
>>         Windows defender is already built into windows ten so you
>>         don’t need any other anti virus program
>>
>>         And its accessible
>>
>>
>>
>>     Casey
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Gene

#16382

I think I saw a message on this or another list that the command is going to change to alt windows key enter at some time in the future.

Gene

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mallard

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 4:56 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Hello,

You can press Windows+Enter.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 17/03/2017 06:42, Gene ha scritto:
> There is a command to run it in Windows 10 but someone can discuss
> that. I don't use Windows 10 and the command may have changed. But
> in all versions of Windows, this method will work:
> Press and hold the Windows key. While doing so type the letter r.
> Then after waiting a moment, type narrator and press enter. Narrator
> will run.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* slery <mailto:slerythema@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:51 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?
>
> Thanks for these detailed steps.
>
> Can you explain how to run narrator? I think it is windows key something.
>
> Cindy
>
> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:41 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?
>
> There is more than one way to make a portable copy of NVDA. Here is
> one way. I am assuming that NVDA is already installed on your machine.
>
> Major new steps start on new lines.
>
> First, create a folder in which you want to install NVDA.
>
> Then, while NVDA is running, open the NvDA menu with NVDA key n.
>
> Down arrow to tools.
>
> Press enter. You are now in a submenu.
>
> Down arrow to create portable copy and press enter.
>
> You are now in a dialog.
>
> Tab to the browse button and press enter.
>
> If you don't know how to work with the dialog you are now in, ask here.
>
> Open the folder you have created to place NVDA in.
>
> Then continue to make the portable copy. Look around the dialog and
> if you have questions, ask here.
>
> Once yu have made the portable copy, copy the folder you created onto
> the thumb drive.
>
> Or cut it to the thumb drive, whichever you wish.
>
> To run NVDA from the thumb drive, connect the thumb drive to the
> machine you want to run it on. Have Narrator running before you
> connect the thumb drive. If you don't know how to run Narrator, ask here.
>
> Once Narrator is running, find the folder that contains NVDA on the
> thumb drive. Open the folder.
>
> Look for NVDA.exe and press enter. You will probably just here nvda
> but not exe.
>
> NVDA will run. I don't know if you will be asked anything first such
> as if you want to run the file. I don't think so.
>
> Then close Narrator. It will cause no problem to have NVDA and
> Narrator running simultaneously so close Narrator and continue running
> NVDA.
>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:*Judy Jones <mailto:sonshines59@...>
>
> *Sent:*Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 PM
>
> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> *Subject:*[nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?
>
> Greetings,
>
> I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.
> Question: Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance,
> would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as
> long as I bring my thumb drive with me? How does that work?
>
> I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope
> NVDA has the portability I would need. Thanks for any instructions
> and advice.
>
> Judy
>
>

Re: problem is java acces brich

Pete <emac00@...>

#16381

me to
  both 32 and 64 is needed to work unless you are using a purely 32 bit windows
  I found the windows enable disable function for java access bridge is hit and miss.
  Most of the times you have to manually edit the accessibility.properties file and uncomment out the line about loading the java access in addition to manually copping the j a b files to your windows system.

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On 3/16/2017 5:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Often you need both the  32 bit and 64 bit versions operating at the same time. To be honest i've had so many troubles with Java programs that I've stopped using them altogether now.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Masters" <dwmasters15@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem is java acces brich

I think there is a problem with the access bridge in general. I use Open Office and the latest version of JAWS but when I use the spreadsheet it freezes. JAWS support had me install the latest Java and turn the access bridge on and it worked fine until I rebooted my Pc. so they say I need to contact the access team at Java.

Dean

From: Olcay AŞCI
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] problem is java acces brich

Hio

I'm getting a constant error in Java applications. applications NVDA is reading, but there is an error in the log record and an error sound is played.

My nvda version:

next-13911,3c8e30bd

My log:

INFO - __main__ (10:00:55):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (10:00:56):

Config dir: C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:00:56):

Loading config: C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (10:00:56):

NVDA version next-13911,3c8e30bd

INFO - core.main (10:00:56):

Using Windows version 10.0.15055 workstation

INFO - core.main (10:00:56):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (10:00:56):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:00:57):

Loaded synthDriver vocalizer_expressive

INFO - core.main (10:00:57):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:00:57):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (10:00:57):

Using liblouis version 3.0.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:00:57):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:00:57):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.initialize (10:00:57):

No touch devices found

INFO - external:globalPlugins.NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin.GlobalPlugin.__init__ (10:00:59):

Loaded NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin version 6.0

INFO - core.main (10:01:01):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - queueHandler.flushQueue (10:01:10):

Error in func event_stateChange from JABHandler.internalFunctionQueue

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue

 File "JABHandler.pyc", line 620, in event_stateChange

 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 70, in __call__

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 217, in __init__

 File "NVDAObjects\window\__init__.pyc", line 166, in __init__

ValueError: invalid or not specified window handle

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (10:01:10):

error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_ClipboardCommandAnnouncementJAB object at 0x058B0110> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py", line 199, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\__init__.py", line 410, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin\globalPlugins\NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin\__init__.py", line 238, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\enhancedTouchGestures\globalPlugins\enhancedTouchGestures.py", line 86, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 527, in event_gainFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 900, in event_gainFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 475, in reportFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 812, in reportFocus

 File "speech.pyc", line 357, in speakObject

 File "speech.pyc", line 273, in speakObjectProperties

 File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

 File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 243, in _get_keyboardShortcut

IndexError: invalid index

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (10:01:12):

error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_ClipboardCommandAnnouncementJAB object at 0x058B0370> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py", line 199, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteClient\__init__.py", line 410, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin\globalPlugins\NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin\__init__.py", line 238, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "C:\Users\akkus\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\enhancedTouchGestures\globalPlugins\enhancedTouchGestures.py", line 86, in event_gainFocus

 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 527, in event_gainFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 900, in event_gainFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 475, in reportFocus

 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 812, in reportFocus

 File "speech.pyc", line 357, in speakObject

 File "speech.pyc", line 273, in speakObjectProperties

 File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__

 File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache

 File "NVDAObjects\JAB\__init__.pyc", line 243, in _get_keyboardShortcut

IndexError: invalid index

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Quentin Christensen

#16380

The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017. It has news and updates on current projects. It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere). More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Find it here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-17th-march-2017/

Regards

Quentin.

--

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Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306

www.nvaccess.org
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Re: nvda friendly alarm clock app for windows

john s

#16379

What about the one in the webie bundle?

At 12:30 AM 3/17/2017, you wrote:
And I think you can still get that.
Sadly its not been updated in ages and there havn't been any new user created clocks for a while.



On 17/03/2017 8:37 a.m., Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
Back in the day, I used Steve's Talking Clock. It worked quite well with
NVDA.


Ben


On 3/14/2017 18:53, Tony James wrote:
Hi, is there an accessible alarm clock type program for win7>  I just
tried to use win task scheduler but gave up because the time and date
settings refused to stay at the values I wanted and because it was
such a pain to get them set in the first place.  thx
                John

Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Chris Mullins

#16378

You can use Windows+Ener to start/stop narrator in W10.

Cheers

Chris

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 March 2017 05:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

There is a command to run it in Windows 10 but someone can discuss that. I don't use Windows 10 and the command may have changed. But in all versions of Windows, this method will work:

Press and hold the Windows key. While doing so type the letter r. Then after waiting a moment, type narrator and press enter. Narrator will run.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: slery

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:51 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Thanks for these detailed steps.

Can you explain how to run narrator? I think it is windows key something.

Cindy

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

There is more than one way to make a portable copy of NVDA. Here is one way. I am assuming that NVDA is already installed on your machine.

Major new steps start on new lines.

First, create a folder in which you want to install NVDA.

Then, while NVDA is running, open the NvDA menu with NVDA key n.

Down arrow to tools.

Press enter. You are now in a submenu.

Down arrow to create portable copy and press enter.

You are now in a dialog.

Tab to the browse button and press enter.

If you don't know how to work with the dialog you are now in, ask here.

Open the folder you have created to place NVDA in.

Then continue to make the portable copy. Look around the dialog and if you have questions, ask here.

Once yu have made the portable copy, copy the folder you created onto the thumb drive.

Or cut it to the thumb drive, whichever you wish.

To run NVDA from the thumb drive, connect the thumb drive to the machine you want to run it on. Have Narrator running before you connect the thumb drive. If you don't know how to run Narrator, ask here.

Once Narrator is running, find the folder that contains NVDA on the thumb drive. Open the folder.

Look for NVDA.exe and press enter. You will probably just here nvda but not exe.

NVDA will run. I don't know if you will be asked anything first such as if you want to run the file. I don't think so.

Then close Narrator. It will cause no problem to have NVDA and Narrator running simultaneously so close Narrator and continue running NVDA.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Greetings,

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it. Question: Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me? How does that work?

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need. Thanks for any instructions and advice.

Judy

Re: accessible antivirus

Christo Vorster

#16377

Hi

I accept that there might be better antivirus programs than Defender, but what are they?

My experience with Defender on my Windows 2010 machines have been positive, up to now.

Regards

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, 16 March 2017 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

Computer advisors I trust say that Defender isn't as good as other good programs. There is a debate about whether and to what extent this matters because, evidently, Microsoft says that Defender will protect against malware that users are likely to encounter. I expect that if you look for information in places like PC World, Kim Komando, Life Hacker, and other reputable advisors, that many of them will say that it's better to use something else.

Gene

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Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 4:30 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

I think to be fair to Defender/msse there has always to be a few people who
get a virus as its a continuous battle between the virus and malware folk
and the anti virus software writers.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brenda" <bjnite@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus

> Plese don't take this conversation off list.
>
>
> I'm glad you shared this to the list. It is very valuable to know
> accessible virus programs. I don't see how this could be construed as
> advertising.
>
>
> I have heard that Caspersky is now accessible once you can get it
> installed. If you do a google search for accessible virus programs with
> screen readers, etc, you should come upon an article by David goldfield
> about this. After he had issues with Windows Defender not catching
> viruses he investigated and chose Caspersky.
>
>
> I'm still hoping for more input from listers on antivirus programs that
> work well with NVDA and are highly rated in the sighted world or other
> folks experiences with Caspersky which is a good program.
>
>
> thanks for sharing.
>
>
> brenda
>
>
> On 3/15/2017 4:56 AM, Felix G. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> the program is subscription-based, and there is a free 30 day test
>> period.
>> It scans for viruses, worms and the like in addition to the wider
>> definition of malware including adware and spyware.
>> Here is the link:
>> http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/antimalware/?id=14510978
>> So much in the interest of sharing. I think any follow-ups should be
>> discussed off-list since this is going way off topic and may easily be
>> construed as me running an ad campaign, which I am not. ;)
>> Kind regards,
>> Felix
>>
>> Casey <cwollner@... <mailto:cwollner@...>> schrieb am Di.,
>> 14. März 2017 um 14:41 Uhr:
>>
>>     Hi where can you get this Emsisoft Antimalware from?
>>     Also is it free or is there A charge for this program?
>>     And how easy is it to set up and install?
>>     Well it work with Jaws 18 as well?
>>     *From:* Felix G. <mailto:constantlyvariable@...>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:52 AM
>>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible antivirus
>>     Hi!
>>     I use Emsisoft Antimalware. It's fast, scans for potentially
>>     unwanted programs (such as adware) in addition to general malware
>>     like trojans and worms, and has, to my mind, the best behavior
>>     analysis around, spotting backdoors from how they behave even if
>>     the file itself is unknown, to provide just one example. This goes
>>     far beyond what is usually referred to as detection by heuristics.
>>     Accessibility-wise most things I need are in the tab order but I
>>     find myself resorting to flat review sometimes.
>>     Greetings,
>>     Felix
>>     Chris <chrismedley@...
>>     <mailto:chrismedley@...>> schrieb am Mo., 13. März 2017
>>     um 21:25 Uhr:
>>
>>         Windows defender is already built into windows ten so you
>>         don’t need any other anti virus program
>>
>>         And its accessible
>>
>>
>>
>>     Casey
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Mallard

#16376

Hello,

You can press Windows+Enter.

Ciao,

Ollie

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Il 17/03/2017 06:42, Gene ha scritto:
There is a command to run it in Windows 10 but someone can discuss that.  I don't use Windows 10 and the command may have changed.  But in all versions of Windows, this method will work:
Press and hold the Windows key.  While doing so type the letter r.  Then after waiting a moment, type narrator and press enter.  Narrator will run.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* slery <mailto:slerythema@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:51 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Thanks for these detailed steps.

Can you explain how to run narrator? I think it is windows key something.

Cindy

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:41 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

There is more than one way to make a portable copy of NVDA.  Here is one way.  I am assuming that NVDA is already installed on your machine.

Major new steps start on new lines.

First, create a folder in which you want to install NVDA.

Then, while NVDA is running, open the NvDA menu with NVDA key n.

Down arrow to tools.

Press enter.  You are now in a submenu.

Down arrow to create portable copy and press enter.

You are now in a dialog.

Tab to the browse button and press enter.

If you don't know how to work with the dialog you are now in, ask here.

Open the folder you have created to place NVDA in.

Then continue to make the portable copy.  Look around the dialog and if you have questions, ask here.

Once yu have made the portable copy, copy the folder you created onto the thumb drive.

Or cut it to the thumb drive, whichever you wish.

To run NVDA from the thumb drive, connect the thumb drive to the machine you want to run it on.  Have Narrator running before you connect the thumb drive.  If you don't know how to run Narrator, ask here.

Once Narrator is running, find the folder that contains NVDA on the thumb drive.  Open the folder.

Look for NVDA.exe and press enter. You will probably just here nvda but not exe.

NVDA will run.  I don't know if you will be asked anything first such as if you want to run the file.  I don't think so.

Then close Narrator.  It will cause no problem to have NVDA and Narrator running simultaneously so close Narrator and continue running NVDA.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

*From:*Judy Jones <mailto:sonshines59@gmail.com>

*Sent:*Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 PM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Greetings,

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

Judy

Re: Piriform Recuva,v1.53.1087 recovering folders using nvda?

Shaun Everiss

#16375

Well I had a few drives that failed all at once.
I was able to recover all the file names but not the contents.
While the majority of files could be transfered, as well as some stuff locally stored, the fact was that most of the data was gone.
Even after recovering from another less failing but still dammaged drive, I still lost a couple unimportant folders.
It was better than what I lost origionally but still.

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On 17/03/2017 9:08 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Yes  all recover is doing is changing bits in the  file allocation
table. You probably cannot make the folder the same as s before due to
the way ntfs tends to work. However you can do exactly what  windows
does when you move a file, it merely changes the fat so the same file
locations are pointed to by an entry in that new folder. Obviously until
its been recovered every write you do including nothing at all runs the
risk of corrupting the files so its best to just restore them to
anywhere then fiddle with them later. Another word of warning is that if
they are dlls or other system files they lose their registration even if
you eventually put them back where they were.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar"
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Piriform Recuva,v1.53.1087 recovering folders using
nvda?


hello.
i only know about files.
use tab key to select your desired files, press space on them to make
it checked for recover.
specially use the files which you know the status for recovery is
excellent or very Good.
and you can recover them easily.
remember that select different folder than original one for restoring
your recovered files.
hope that help and God bless you!

On 3/16/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello I accidently deleeted some files and was able to recover them
using Piriform Recuva
v1.53.1087
I also had it keep the folder structure how do I restore a couple of
folders from that scan? I see all the files indevidually and I know what
folders has the stuff I want but I can't just select the folders that I
am wanting to recover  so am wanting to know if it is possible with
nvda? if so how do I accomplish this? I tried with nvda and also tried
with jaws.
thanks
Hank





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Re: Bug. Can you confirm? NVDA can't read google chrome settings for extensions

Simone Dal Maso

#16374

Hello Gene,
yes, the description is just what I discover be inaccessible with NVDA and other screen reader.
I made a report using feedback functionality in Chrome, I hope someone on Google will read it.
For now, it is impossible to use that.
Grrrr!

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Il 17/03/2017 00:28, Gene ha scritto:
Here is an article that discusses how to assign shortcuts by using the
Chrome extensions dialog.
https://www.howtogeek.com/127162/how-to-create-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-for-browser-actions-and-extensions-in-google-chrome/
I'd have to read the article again to try to understand what else was
said more clearly.  there was an extension for this purpose but it has
been removed from the Chrome Store or Google Store, whatever it's
called. Mention is made of something evidently being removed starting
with version 53 but I'm not sure what.
It could be another way to do this but I'm not sure if it was clearly
stated in the article.

Gene
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*From:* Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 11:55 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Bug. Can you confirm? NVDA can't read google
chrome settings for extensions

I doubt this is an NVDA problem.  Do you have another screen-reader such
as JAWS?  I doubt another screen-reader would read the page either.
Even after all these years, Chrome still is not fully accessible though,
it's mostly accessible.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Simone Dal Maso <mailto:simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:18 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Bug. Can you confirm? NVDA can't read google chrome
settings for extensions

Hello,
I'd like to have some hints or just a confirmation that NVDA has the
following problem:
open google chrome.
- go into address bar and type:
chrome://extensions/

You have the extensions page. Go to the bottom of the page and you
should find a link called "short keys", I don't know in english, in
italian is Scorciatoie da tastiera, anyway it is a page that allow you
to assigng a keyboard shortcut to activate an extension.
Just to make an example, if you are using hoxx vpn extension, you can
decide to activate it with a ctrl-shift-h, instead of going into
toolbar, than search extensions, right lick, etc etc.
You can define hotkeys for your extensions!

The little problem is that NVDA is not able to read that page.
Absolutely nothing.
Can you give a try and tell me if you have the same problem?

If yes, I will open a ticket about that.

Re: looking for a free and accessible newsreader for UseNet searching, reading, and grabbing binary files