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Re: NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving aspeedboat near an aircraft carrier!

David Moore
 

Hi Quinton,

Thanks a lot for this. I will take the test.

I can't wait. I will pay to be certified!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving aspeedboat near an aircraft carrier!

 

Hi Gene,

 

The certification is available from: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

 

Good question re the commands.  It is definitely worth understanding both sets of commands, particularly if you are teaching or providing support to other users who might be using one or the other keyboard layout.  There might be a couple of questions which list only the desktop or laptop command, but the majority of the questions do include both, for instance, "What does NVDA+up arrow (laptop: NVDA+l) do?"

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin.

 

Thanks for that i just read the issue that i missed out on saying about the nvda certification etc. I did see reference to it on the list and will probably sit it if it is up and running which it looks like it is.

 

I hope there is no lap top commands i only know desk top or is it more multi choice?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 21/03/2017 12:39 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

The archive is here: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

 

We are very slowly planning an updated website, so there are some things we'd like to do, which may not make it into the current site, but which will hopefully be available once the new site is launched.  I know a more easily findable In-Process is on my wish list :)

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin.

 

out of curiosity where about is the archive keeped if any if some one wanted to look over the older in process issues?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 18/03/2017 1:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017.  It has news and updates on current projects.  It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere).  More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

 

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Twitter: @NVAccess 



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Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries



 

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Twitter: @NVAccess 

 


Re: NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Gene,

The certification is available from: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

Good question re the commands.  It is definitely worth understanding both sets of commands, particularly if you are teaching or providing support to other users who might be using one or the other keyboard layout.  There might be a couple of questions which list only the desktop or laptop command, but the majority of the questions do include both, for instance, "What does NVDA+up arrow (laptop: NVDA+l) do?"

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin.


Thanks for that i just read the issue that i missed out on saying about the nvda certification etc. I did see reference to it on the list and will probably sit it if it is up and running which it looks like it is.


I hope there is no lap top commands i only know desk top or is it more multi choice?


Gene nz



On 21/03/2017 12:39 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The archive is here: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

We are very slowly planning an updated website, so there are some things we'd like to do, which may not make it into the current site, but which will hopefully be available once the new site is launched.  I know a more easily findable In-Process is on my wish list :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

Hi Quentin.


out of curiosity where about is the archive keeped if any if some one wanted to look over the older in process issues?


Gene nz



On 18/03/2017 1:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017.  It has news and updates on current projects.  It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere).  More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!


Regards

Quentin.

--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
--
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess  Twitter: @NVAccess 
-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: certification test

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Gene,

Yes, the certification is up and running now.  We had a couple of beta testers and then quietly soft-launched it just as we left for CSUN, to try and catch any bugs before they affected too many people.  So we haven't promoted it too hard yet.


Anyone can do the exam, there is no cost for sitting the test, however, after passing the text, to purchase a certificate and have your name added to the certified individuals list costs AUD $100, which is roughly $75 USD (depending on the current exchange rate).  You have 55 minutes to complete the test.

If you have worked through the "Basic Training for NVDA" module, and understood the material, you should be well prepared for the exam, however it is important to stress that purchase of the training module is not required to sit the exam or become certified.

Also, for those who have done the certification, apologies for the delay, I'm about to send the certificates out this morning.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin.


I was just reading the archive of the in process blog and also read the part about NVDA certification.

 Is this up and running? and what cost is it?

by the way how logn does the certification last for? i have never done one? Plus what sorta time limit and amount of questions?


Gene nz




On 20/03/2017 11:31 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Up the top of the page is a link to "log in".  If you go to that link, it takes you to: https://certification.nvaccess.org/login where you can create an account (note that form lets you log in with an existing account as well, so make sure you are in the right part).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:
interesting, I didn't see any such detail on the page when I went there. however, I shall have another look.




On 7/03/2017 12:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The login page apparently has instructions on creating an account. For those in the States, the first time certification fee is about 76 dollars, with the renewal fee being half of that.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 5:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

As would I. it is something that has interested me ever since the concept was introduced.



On 7/03/2017 10:07, Dan Thompson wrote:
I would also like to look into this.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

I didn't know about this either!
How do I register?

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 6:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] certification test

Hi,


How can I create an account for the NVDA certification test at certification.nvaccess.org?

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www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




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Training Material Developer
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www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: using physical mouse with nvda?

Quentin Christensen
 

Which program are you using?  As Brian noted, most of the major browsers (and I just checked Internet Explorer and Edge as well and they work) should scroll using the mouse wheel.  Can you give an example of a web page / browser / other app that won't scroll with the mouse wheel while NVDA is running please?

Also, what version of Windows are you running?  I don't think that should make a difference, but worth checking.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:13 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

as far as I know the program does scroll

when nvda is not running.
can you give me a example of a site that does allow scrolling so I can make sure that I am not doing something wrong?
On 3/20/2017 3:54 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

Silly question, but does the mouse wheel scroll down in the program you are using if NVDA is not running?

I have enough sight to use the mouse as well, and I find sometimes, particularly on say the web, I will grab the mouse if I do want to scroll down and read something further down because I can use the scroll wheel for that.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:30 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello this may sound like a odd question but how do you make the weel on the mouse to scroll down? when I try to use the mouse with nvda the weel on the mouse doesn't do anything.

thanks

Hank








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www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 





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www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Is NVDA right for me?

Gene
 

See this article:
 
Narrator can be made to read selected text to an extent but it may not do what you want. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Are you selecting text with a mouse?  If Narrator doesn't read it when you do so, I doubt there is such a setting.  Have you looked through the settings and is there anything related to what is read such as read selected or highlighted?  I don't recall what version of Windows you are using and such a feature may have been added in Windows 8 or 10 but I doubt it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Well if there are people here with good computer knowledge and
experience, then the main question I would want to ask next
is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.

Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator
to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it to
each time?

Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse
that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.

If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Георги Ламбов
Sent: Mar 15, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

   Hi!

In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group. There are people with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will help you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the messages of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the messages from this group. If you are also member of any other group, you can do the same about the messages of the group you are. In this way you will have more place for the letters you receive.
Cheers!
Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy Sports написа:
Yes, I agree with you.  Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.

I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to screen readers as an option.

I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
 
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?

Peace.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA.  I don't know just what Narrator can do.  for your purposes, I don't know if it's any better or not.  Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet your needs.  I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs or not.  I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the right order.  I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you want to read.  
 
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into screen-readers after you try to get information about other means.  I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.  Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them done. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>




Re: Reading PDFs

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but what accessibility problems you find in Acrobate Reader DC?

I'm using it without any accessibility problems...

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Pascal Lambert
Data: 20 de março de 2017 19:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Reading PDFs

I am still using Acrobat Reader Version X because the new one is not very friendly with the NVDA screen reader.
Let me know if you need the link to download.
Hope this helps.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros


Re: Reading PDFs

Marco Oros
 

If You have, You can send It to me, privately.
But, that's all.


Re: Reading PDFs

V Stuart Foote
 

Hank,

Try this link...

https://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/

Stuart

________________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of The Wolf <hank.smith966@...>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hello can I get the link to the earlier version?


On 3/20/2017 12:48 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
I am still using Acrobat Reader Version X because the new one is not very friendly with the NVDA screen reader.
Let me know if you need the link to download.
Hope this helps.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros








Re: NVDA and Columns

Roger Stewart
 

If the program in question is SPL or Station Playlist, there's an add on for NVDA that will let you navigate columns in the playlist in just the way you want to.  This feature will be in the next stable release which should be out in a few days or a week at latest if all goes well.

Roger









On 3/20/2017 2:30 PM, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Thanks, Robert.  However, the columns that I want to navigate are outside typical browsers and are in a radio automation software program.  I would’ve thought that NVDA would feature a way to hear the status of a particular column quickly without the need to physically scroll over to it, especially if it is several columns over from the left.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Columns

 

Hi Jonathan,
I think you may use alternatively the addons for the addons for Easy Table Navigator which I believe Joseph Lee is the main author of this addons. I've been using this for couple of times specially when navigating to the column. or you could assigned keystroke for it. Below is the mentioned link:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/easyTableNavigator.en.html
If you have questions to this addons, I may suggest to leave him a message directly or here in the mailing list for the instruction. But, I believe there is instructions that is mention for the Help of that addons as well.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/20/2017 11:20 PM, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Hi All,

 

I wasn’t able to find this in the NVDA  user’s guide.  I know that you can use control+alt and the arrow keys to navigate columns, but is there a way of reading  a single column header?  In other words, Instead of having to press a command 6 times to get to the 6th column and hear its status, is there a way of just pressing a single keystroke, alt+6 for example, that will read it quickly?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 



Re: NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Quentin.


Thanks for that i just read the issue that i missed out on saying about the nvda certification etc. I did see reference to it on the list and will probably sit it if it is up and running which it looks like it is.


I hope there is no lap top commands i only know desk top or is it more multi choice?


Gene nz



On 21/03/2017 12:39 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The archive is here: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

We are very slowly planning an updated website, so there are some things we'd like to do, which may not make it into the current site, but which will hopefully be available once the new site is launched.  I know a more easily findable In-Process is on my wish list :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin.


out of curiosity where about is the archive keeped if any if some one wanted to look over the older in process issues?


Gene nz



On 18/03/2017 1:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017.  It has news and updates on current projects.  It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere).  More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!


Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
--
Quentin Christensen Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess  Twitter: @NVAccess 
-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Reading PDFs

 

Hello can I get the link to the earlier version?

On 3/20/2017 12:48 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
I am still using Acrobat Reader Version X because the new one is not very friendly with the NVDA screen reader.
Let me know if you need the link to download.
Hope this helps.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros







Re: certification test

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Quentin.


I was just reading the archive of the in process blog and also read the part about NVDA certification.

 Is this up and running? and what cost is it?

by the way how logn does the certification last for? i have never done one? Plus what sorta time limit and amount of questions?


Gene nz




On 20/03/2017 11:31 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Up the top of the page is a link to "log in".  If you go to that link, it takes you to: https://certification.nvaccess.org/login where you can create an account (note that form lets you log in with an existing account as well, so make sure you are in the right part).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:
interesting, I didn't see any such detail on the page when I went there. however, I shall have another look.




On 7/03/2017 12:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The login page apparently has instructions on creating an account. For those in the States, the first time certification fee is about 76 dollars, with the renewal fee being half of that.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 5:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

As would I. it is something that has interested me ever since the concept was introduced.



On 7/03/2017 10:07, Dan Thompson wrote:
I would also like to look into this.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

I didn't know about this either!
How do I register?

Bill

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 6:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] certification test

Hi,


How can I create an account for the NVDA certification test at certification.nvaccess.org?

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Re: Reading PDFs

Pascal Lambert
 

I am still using Acrobat Reader Version X because the new one is not very friendly with the NVDA screen reader.
Let me know if you need the link to download.
Hope this helps.
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Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marco Oros
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros


Re: Is NVDA right for me?

Gene
 

Are you selecting text with a mouse?  If Narrator doesn't read it when you do so, I doubt there is such a setting.  Have you looked through the settings and is there anything related to what is read such as read selected or highlighted?  I don't recall what version of Windows you are using and such a feature may have been added in Windows 8 or 10 but I doubt it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Well if there are people here with good computer knowledge and
experience, then the main question I would want to ask next
is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.

Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator
to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it to
each time?

Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse
that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.

If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Георги Ламбов
Sent: Mar 15, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

   Hi!

In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group. There are people with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will help you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the messages of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the messages from this group. If you are also member of any other group, you can do the same about the messages of the group you are. In this way you will have more place for the letters you receive.
Cheers!
Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy Sports написа:
Yes, I agree with you.  Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.

I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to screen readers as an option.

I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
 
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?

Peace.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA.  I don't know just what Narrator can do.  for your purposes, I don't know if it's any better or not.  Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet your needs.  I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs or not.  I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the right order.  I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you want to read.  
 
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into screen-readers after you try to get information about other means.  I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.  Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them done. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>




Reading PDFs

Marco Oros
 

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros


Re: NVDA and Columns

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Robert.  However, the columns that I want to navigate are outside typical browsers and are in a radio automation software program.  I would’ve thought that NVDA would feature a way to hear the status of a particular column quickly without the need to physically scroll over to it, especially if it is several columns over from the left.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Columns

 

Hi Jonathan,
I think you may use alternatively the addons for the addons for Easy Table Navigator which I believe Joseph Lee is the main author of this addons. I've been using this for couple of times specially when navigating to the column. or you could assigned keystroke for it. Below is the mentioned link:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/easyTableNavigator.en.html
If you have questions to this addons, I may suggest to leave him a message directly or here in the mailing list for the instruction. But, I believe there is instructions that is mention for the Help of that addons as well.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/20/2017 11:20 PM, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Hi All,

 

I wasn’t able to find this in the NVDA  user’s guide.  I know that you can use control+alt and the arrow keys to navigate columns, but is there a way of reading  a single column header?  In other words, Instead of having to press a command 6 times to get to the 6th column and hear its status, is there a way of just pressing a single keystroke, alt+6 for example, that will read it quickly?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 


Re: NVDA and Columns

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi Jonathan,
I think you may use alternatively the addons for the addons for Easy Table Navigator which I believe Joseph Lee is the main author of this addons. I've been using this for couple of times specially when navigating to the column. or you could assigned keystroke for it. Below is the mentioned link:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/easyTableNavigator.en.html
If you have questions to this addons, I may suggest to leave him a message directly or here in the mailing list for the instruction. But, I believe there is instructions that is mention for the Help of that addons as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 3/20/2017 11:20 PM, Jonathan Milam wrote:

Hi All,

 

I wasn’t able to find this in the NVDA  user’s guide.  I know that you can use control+alt and the arrow keys to navigate columns, but is there a way of reading  a single column header?  In other words, Instead of having to press a command 6 times to get to the 6th column and hear its status, is there a way of just pressing a single keystroke, alt+6 for example, that will read it quickly?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan



Re: Is NVDA right for me?

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Well if there are people here with good computer knowledge and
experience, then the main question I would want to ask next
is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.

Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator
to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it to
each time?

Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse
that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.

If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.

-----Original Message-----
From: Георги Ламбов
Sent: Mar 15, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

   Hi!

In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group. There are people with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will help you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the messages of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the messages from this group. If you are also member of any other group, you can do the same about the messages of the group you are. In this way you will have more place for the letters you receive.
Cheers!
Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy Sports написа:
Yes, I agree with you.  Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.

I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to screen readers as an option.

I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
 
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?

Peace.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA.  I don't know just what Narrator can do.  for your purposes, I don't know if it's any better or not.  Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet your needs.  I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs or not.  I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the right order.  I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you want to read.  
 
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into screen-readers after you try to get information about other means.  I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.  Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them done. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>




Re: using physical mouse with nvda?

 

Just as a data point, when I'm using an external mouse with a scroll wheel on the laptop I'm typing on, and NVDA is active, the scroll wheel still performs the scroll function in Chrome, Firefox, MS-Word, and the Everything Search results window.

There can occasionally be a slight lag when one has shifted to a new window with NVDA active, but even that is no more than a second or two before the scroll wheel will work again.
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Re: using physical mouse with nvda?

 

as far as I know the program does scroll

when nvda is not running.
can you give me a example of a site that does allow scrolling so I can make sure that I am not doing something wrong?

On 3/20/2017 3:54 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Hank,

Silly question, but does the mouse wheel scroll down in the program you are using if NVDA is not running?

I have enough sight to use the mouse as well, and I find sometimes, particularly on say the web, I will grab the mouse if I do want to scroll down and read something further down because I can use the scroll wheel for that.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 12:30 PM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
Hello this may sound like a odd question but how do you make the weel on the mouse to scroll down? when I try to use the mouse with nvda the weel on the mouse doesn't do anything.

thanks

Hank








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