-----Original Message-----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop Layout issue

What synth?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: George McCoy
Data: 8 de abril de 2017 00:56
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Laptop Layout issue

HP EliteBook 8440P running windows 7 Professional with all updates. NVDA is
set to laptop layout. I can't set the voice parameters with
NVDA+Shift+Control and the arrow keys. Has anyone else encountered this
behavior? Is there a work-around?

Thanks,
George

On 7/04/2017 7:50 p.m., Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

Lately I've been testing online interactive fiction interpreters. All these implement aria (precisely,aria-live="polite", aria-atomic="false", aria-relevant="additions"). The problem is that with some specific games (like Ad Verbum) NVDA fails to output anything automatically. Link to test this (with Parchment):

adverbum - Parchment <http://iplayif.com/?story=http://ifarchive.org/if-archive/games/zcode/adverbum.z5>



Anyone can clarify why this happens? Note that this is not specific to this game, but this only happens in Parchment (see <http://www.eblong.com/zarf/glulx/quixe/quixe/play-remote.html?story=stories/Advent.ulx.js>). That works properly...

Even more weirdness: Andrew Plotkin uses an older version of Parchment with no ARIA, and it works surprisingly well (compare <http://eblong.com/zarf/zweb/tangle/> and <http://iplayif.com/?story=http://eblong.com/zarf/ftp/Tangle.z5>.

Any thoughts?

Thanks very much,


Sukil

On 7/04/2017 4:15 p.m., Juliette wrote:

Hello,

I am Juliette, the founder of Inclusight. I am helping websites being more
accessible for people with disabilities or people who struggle with
technology. In fact, we are offering website testing opportunities so that
people can give their feedback on the accessibility. We have opportunities
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If you are interested to know more please let me know. Feel free to ask me
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email at juliette@... or to call me at 07760934012
About us: Inclusight is a registered company committed to make the web more
accessible. We comply with the Data Protection Act and the Market Research
Society Code of Conduct. If you are interested in becoming a tester, reply
to this email or call us at 07760934012.


I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Kind Regards,
Juliette

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from mack<p><br></p>i just recently realized you cood log in to groups.io and have a reply option. now, i don'[t have to use thunderbird to do this. i get so tired of thunderbird sayin  gmail, failed to send your message. no reason is given. this may help some of you, log into groups.io and click on your name, choose account,and then prefferances. i have log in with google checked. also, i have plain text checked instead of h t m l. if you don't change to plain text, when you hit reply, you are presented with a bunch of junk options, that in most cases won't be helpful to you. so, after doing this, when i hit reply, i am placed in the edit box to reply, i can reply, left and rite arrow to read what i am writing, delete letters, etc. good stuff. i am doing this with NVDA and i have my browse settings to always stay in browse mode, unless i tap the spacebar to write in a box. i found that the automatic setting, often caused me to have a hard time leaving the edit box. i  am doing all this using i e 11, i have not used any other browsers to test behavior, thanks

We were talking earlier today about the difficulties of using the Groups.io web interfact to reply     to messages.  m trying once again and this time, I'm using a slightly differe    nt procedure.      Let's see if it works.

        

Gene

On 07/04/2017 12:14, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Working with a friend on latest Thunderbird for deafblind users.
What we would know is if there is a way of exporting settings in a way that they could be transported to another computer.
Andrea

From: Jonathan Milam
Sent: 07 April 2017 17:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] QCast and NVDA

 

Hi All,

 

If you use the QCast podcast program, please contact me offlist at milamj@... as I have a question about it, as I cannot get it to launch in WIN10.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

Gene,

         I am suspecting that what you believe you did, and what you actually did, might be ever so slightly different.  If you have logged in to the Groups.io website, gone to the messages for a group, and hit the reply button, this should open up the reply area and hitting the Reply to Group button should send what you compose.

         That being said, I'm in NVDA right now while composing this message and the reply composition area is not announced as an edit box. When I finally land in it it announces, "Section editable clickable, clickable."  I still haven't found the way to "quick jump" past all of the control buttons straight into this box.  I find it interesting that the Subject field does announce, "Subject, editable."  I'd think that this box would announce either, "Message text, editable," or "Reply, editable," but it doesn't.

         Once I hit NVDA Key + Spacebar to switch back to browse mode I then cannot escape this edit box by tabbing, and that wasn't true earlier.  Now that I've been playing with this again I'm still stuck in the compose box and can't get out as I'd think I should.

          Even though I'm not the most skilled screen reader user there are clearly accessibility issues with the Groups.io website and certain behaviors are particularly vexing.

          I'm just curious as to what you actually did mostly because it didn't work and I can't even get myself out of this editing area "by conventional means."

          As an aside, I updated to the Creators Update yesterday and when I just fired up NVDA 2017.1 to compose this message I got a massively long announcement regarding Narrator and the languages it's available in.  I found that more than a bit odd and, though it could be helpful, hope it's a one time shot.

--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and triggers


I'd have to look at the create profile dialog again to see just how it is set up. Be sure it is set to manual and then, probably if you tab once more, you will be in something, I thing a combo box, where you set a trigger. You want it to only be triggered when you use read to end. Find that item, whatever it is exactly called. Then do the rest of the setup for the profile.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 8:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about nvda and triggers


hi gene.
thanks so much for your help..
i did it, but now, even i dont hear links headings etc when i use the
arrow keys.
i wish that hear the elements but only when i use shortcut keys like k
and h and also when i navigate by arrow keys.
i only want to dont hear it in say all.
what should i do?

On 4/7/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


I think the easiest way is to set up a profile with the reporting of
those things turned off. Where they need to be turned off is under the
document formatting section. But do not go there first it will need to
be done in the profile.


To set up a profile where you can do this and automatically have it done
you need to do the following.


Go into your browser whether it be mozilla fire fox etc. make sure it is
in focus.


Next Press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter P


When the profile manager opens next tab to new it is a button press the
space bar on it. give it a name like mozilla fire fox with out
formatting then tab it will say some thing manual activation i could
have to check. Do not touch this one but arrow down to current
application it will say mozilla fire fox. Then tab down to the ok button
then press the enter key.


Next bring up document formatting with the ctrl key + nvda key + the
letter D.


Tab down to where it says reporting of headings list etc and uncheck
those boxes then tab to the ok button then press the enter key.


You might have to go back into your pro file or hopefully it is still in
focus locate the profile you set up then tab to the close button then
press the enter key.


If set correctly you should not hear link, heading list etc.


When you do it make sure you are in mozilla fire fox then bring up the
profile do your changes in document formatting then after done when back
in the pro file tab to close just as mentioned.

I am pretty sure you will get the idea and other profiles can be set up
for other applications.


I find doing for a current application is far easier for a lot of people.


Gene nz


I am pretty sure i gave the right directions.







On 7/04/2017 7:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

hello every one.
i remember that two years ago if i am correct, i asked this question
and recieved a great answer step by step.
but i dont remember the answer and the date which i asked it here.
i wish that when i use say all in firefox or any browser, nvda does
not announce link, heading table list and anything else.
i wish that only hear the document rather than link heading and all
elements.
you told me i should use trigger for this purpose.
how should i activate and use triggers for my goal?
i waite for your help, God bless you and i pray for you sincerely.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

hi gene.
thanks so much for your help..
i did it, but now, even i dont hear links headings etc when i use the
arrow keys.
i wish that hear the elements but only when i use shortcut keys like k
and h and also when i navigate by arrow keys.
i only want to dont hear it in say all.
what should i do?

On 4/7/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> I think the easiest way is to set up a profile with the reporting of
> those things turned off. Where they need to be turned off is under the
> document formatting section. But do not go there first it will need to
> be done in the profile.
>
>
> To set up a profile where you can do this and automatically have it done
> you need to do the following.
>
>
> Go into your browser whether it be mozilla fire fox etc. make sure it is
> in focus.
>
>
> Next Press the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter P
>
>
> When the profile manager opens next tab to new it is a button press the
> space bar on it. give it a name like mozilla fire fox with out
> formatting then tab it will say some thing manual activation i could
> have to check. Do not touch this one but arrow down to current
> application it will say mozilla fire fox. Then tab down to the ok button
> then press the enter key.
>
>
> Next bring up document formatting with the ctrl key + nvda key + the
> letter D.
>
>
> Tab down to where it says reporting of headings list etc and uncheck
> those boxes then tab to the ok button then press the enter key.
>
>
> You might have to go back into your pro file or hopefully it is still in
> focus locate the profile you set up then tab to the close button then
> press the enter key.
>
>
> If set correctly you should not hear link, heading list etc.
>
>
> When you do it make sure you are in mozilla fire fox then bring up the
> profile do your changes in document formatting then after done when back
> in the pro file tab to close just as mentioned.
>
> I am pretty sure you will get the idea and other profiles can be set up
> for other applications.
>
>
> I find doing for a current application is far easier for a lot of people.
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> I am pretty sure i gave the right directions.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/04/2017 7:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
>> hello every one.
>> i remember that two years ago if i am correct, i asked this question
>> and recieved a great answer step by step.
>> but i dont remember the answer and the date which i asked it here.
>> i wish that when i use say all in firefox or any browser, nvda does
>> not announce link, heading table list and anything else.
>> i wish that only hear the document rather than link heading and all
>> elements.
>> you told me i should use trigger for this purpose.
>> how should i activate and use triggers for my goal?
>> i waite for your help, God bless you and i pray for you sincerely.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Replying to the list using the web site


Gene,

The message I last sent landed in my inbox before I could even switch to that tab.

If I can be of any assistance in helping you determine what's going on at your end with regard to your reply not showing up feel free to contact me.
--
*Brian*

* * *The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing* * in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the* * tempting moment.*

* ~ Dorothy Nevill*

**