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Re: Email client issue

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Depending how you have it on this machine i have a copy of mozilla thunderbird installed.


Then i have a outlook.com and gmail account of instead of going to the website i have them come down to my computer in thunderbird. I also do not have to muck around with the web interface.


I do have directions up on my accessible email client mozilla thunder bird page on how to do it for a outlook.com and gmail account with directions. you might even find the page handy to do other things if you decide to use thunder bird as your email client.


if it is another online email client you might have to look up the settings?


the page can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


I am also using it on windows 10 but will work on previous operating system starting from xp.


hope it helps.


I think there might be a either a audio or written tutorial from the other Gene if he still has it if you still prefer to keep on using the email client you have now.

 

Gene nz



On 11/04/2017 11:43 AM, Jenny Uy wrote:
Hi everyone,

When I log into my Windows Live email account, I can scroll through the emails, but I can't get NVDa to read the content of the email. Can anyone help or recommend another email client that I might use, other than gmail?

Thank you!


Re: Email client issue

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Depending how you have it on this machine i have a copy of mozilla thunderbird installed.


Then i have a outlook.com and gmail account of instead of going to the website i have them come down to my computer in thunderbird. I also do not have to muck around with the web interface.


I do have directions up on my accessible email client mozilla thunder bird page on how to do it for a outlook.com and gmail account with directions. you might even find the page handy to do other things if you decide to use thunder bird as your email client.


if it is another online email client you might have to look up the settings?


the page can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


I am also using it on windows 10 but will work on previous operating system starting from xp.


hope it helps.


I think there might be a either a audio or written tutorial from the other Gene if he still has it if you still prefer to keep on using the email client you have now.

 

Gene nz



On 11/04/2017 11:43 AM, Jenny Uy wrote:
Hi everyone,

When I log into my Windows Live email account, I can scroll through the emails, but I can't get NVDa to read the content of the email. Can anyone help or recommend another email client that I might use, other than gmail?

Thank you!


Re: help

Jacob Kruger
 

If you use jaws cursor to look for results under cambridge, you might be able to find same field using object navigation in NVDA?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-04-11 08:17, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:
Morning Cathy

With Oxford, I gues it to be very graphical.

I think this way, because even when you install, it doesn't respond as usual.

Besides, it is too inaccessible.

Regarding Cambridge, one can install it the normal way without sighted help.

However, one cannot, after typing the word one would find its meaning,
navigate the results field.

What I do after launching it, I activate the jaws cursor virtualization feature.

I, in that way, can access the results/definition of the word I'll
have searched.

I will continue finding out what this program looks like and will come
back to you with a better answer.

Don't you know of any accessible dictionary, be it an online
dictionary, audio, daisy or any other format?

I am afraid I am going to have problems with the module if nothing comes my way.

Your help is appreciated in advance.

Marisane

On 4/10/17, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@...> wrote:
If all else fails, use Google. In the search box, type:
define (word) where (word) is the word which you want defined. I know
that's not a direct answer to your needs, but some software just cannot
be made accessible with any screen reader unless the software engineer
wishes it.
--
Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs.
Email: r.d.t.prater@...
Long days and pleasant nights!

"Marisane Moruthanyana" <marisanem@...> writes:

Evening folks

I am Marisane from SA.

I, this year, registered for English hons with the University of Limpopo.

My lecturer recommends that we use the dictionary for some of the
exercises.

He advised us to buy Oxford or Cambridge dictionary.

Fortunately, there’s both dictionaries at my work place.

They are also in an electornic format, i.e. on a CD/DVD-ROM.

The IT colleague installed the dictionaries on two of the PCs in my work
station.

One pc has Cambridge and the other Oxford.

The dictionaries are very inaccessible with a screen reader, i.e. nvda or
jaws.

I use nvda as my main screen reader, but it cannot handle either of the
dictionaries.

I switched to jaws to check if it can handle the dictionary, but it also
couldn’t.

Does anyone of you know how to use these dictionaries with a screen
reader?

Do you know whether nvda has an addon for anyone of the two?

Your help is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane




test, please ignore

Peter Chin
 


Re: Using NVDA with Conexant smart Audio?

Jacob Kruger
 

Only issue have had with conexant built into my lenovo laptop was a recording enchancement effect, which was messing up recording level consistency under audacity, but, would suggest you go into sound card settings, select playback/output device, activate it's properties button, and, under playback, try disabling all the enhancement effects?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-11 03:15, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,
I just got a new computer that uses Conexant smart Audio and the speech from NVDA is clipping off at the end of words. So rather than saying "start button: ctrl+aesc" it says "startbutton: ctrl+e".
This makes using NVDA really difficult. I have googled the problem and don't see any solution. I would really like to  use this computer!
Thanks,


Re: Email client issue

Gene
 

I don't think this is an NVDA issue but I'd have to check wwith other screen-readers to be sure.  Whatever the case, I think I can give you the solution.
 
Windows Live Mail in the ribbon version, doesn't read mail as plain text in the message window.
.  There are two solutions.  One is to continue to read mail as plain text and use the view pane to read mail.  If you don't know how to show the viewpane or how to read mail using it, ask here.
the other solution is to read mail in HTML.  If you do so, you can read mail by opening the message with enter.  If you read mail as HTML, have the view pane off.  If you read mail as plain text, use the view pane for reading mail, as I said. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Jenny Uy
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [nvda] Email client issue

Hi everyone,

When I log into my Windows Live email account, I can scroll through the emails, but I can't get NVDa to read the content of the email. Can anyone help or recommend another email client that I might use, other than gmail?

Thank you!


Re: help

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Morning Cathy

With Oxford, I gues it to be very graphical.

I think this way, because even when you install, it doesn't respond as usual.

Besides, it is too inaccessible.

Regarding Cambridge, one can install it the normal way without sighted help.

However, one cannot, after typing the word one would find its meaning,
navigate the results field.

What I do after launching it, I activate the jaws cursor virtualization feature.

I, in that way, can access the results/definition of the word I'll
have searched.

I will continue finding out what this program looks like and will come
back to you with a better answer.

Don't you know of any accessible dictionary, be it an online
dictionary, audio, daisy or any other format?

I am afraid I am going to have problems with the module if nothing comes my way.

Your help is appreciated in advance.

Marisane

On 4/10/17, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@...> wrote:
If all else fails, use Google. In the search box, type:
define (word) where (word) is the word which you want defined. I know
that's not a direct answer to your needs, but some software just cannot
be made accessible with any screen reader unless the software engineer
wishes it.
--
Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs.
Email: r.d.t.prater@...
Long days and pleasant nights!

"Marisane Moruthanyana" <marisanem@...> writes:

Evening folks

I am Marisane from SA.

I, this year, registered for English hons with the University of Limpopo.

My lecturer recommends that we use the dictionary for some of the
exercises.

He advised us to buy Oxford or Cambridge dictionary.

Fortunately, there’s both dictionaries at my work place.

They are also in an electornic format, i.e. on a CD/DVD-ROM.

The IT colleague installed the dictionaries on two of the PCs in my work
station.

One pc has Cambridge and the other Oxford.

The dictionaries are very inaccessible with a screen reader, i.e. nvda or
jaws.

I use nvda as my main screen reader, but it cannot handle either of the
dictionaries.

I switched to jaws to check if it can handle the dictionary, but it also
couldn’t.

Does anyone of you know how to use these dictionaries with a screen
reader?

Do you know whether nvda has an addon for anyone of the two?

Your help is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane




Re: Using NVDA with Conexant smart Audio?

Gene
 

I'm not sure why that is.  You could try using a different synthesizer and/or seeing if there is a manufacture's driver.  You are probably using a Microsoft driver now.  Or you could try a cheap external sound card, which wouldn't use the driver you are using now.  I wouldn't want to take a chance on upgrading a sound card driver unless I had some other way of getting sound in case the upgrade causes problems so the cheap external sound card might be the best option unless you have sighted help conveniently available when upgrading the driver.  You might want to gamble if you don't and if you have no other sound card and it may be likely that you won't have problems but I my self would rather not.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA with Conexant smart Audio?

Hello,
I just got a new computer that uses Conexant smart Audio and the speech from NVDA is clipping off at the end of words. So rather than saying "start button: ctrl+aesc" it says "startbutton: ctrl+e".
This makes using NVDA really difficult. I have googled the problem and don't see any solution. I would really like to  use this computer!
Thanks,


Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Gene
 

I would expect that the version of Fine Reader you are using can be used with NVDA.  I have an old version, probably older than yours.  Your version may have more capabilities than mine and have different options.  But in mine, and my impression is that in general, if you aren't scanning directly into Microsoft Word, you can scan a page, then copy and paste it into another program.  I use Notepad.  Then the page can be read in Notepad and you can paste as many pages as you like in and let them accumulate before reading them.  Unless you want to spend money to upgrade, I suspect that what you have now is better than any free options.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Might I ask what scanner or multi-function machine you will be using to scan with?  A very great many have OCR processing built-in to their scanner software and some of that can be quite accessible.


--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Email client issue

Jenny Uy <lejendaree@...>
 

Hi everyone,

When I log into my Windows Live email account, I can scroll through the emails, but I can't get NVDa to read the content of the email. Can anyone help or recommend another email client that I might use, other than gmail?

Thank you!


April 17th: Joseph Lee to present "NVDA: Possibilities and Opportunities in 2017" at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

On April 17, 2017, I (Joseph Lee) will be giving a talk at Accessible World Tek Talk about NVDA community updates in 2017, focusing on recent developments, new features and some things under development.

 

Press release:

If there is one phrase to describe NonVisual Desktop Access, it is “possibilities and opportunities”. NVDA, the free, open-source, community-driven screen reader continues to open opportunities and possibilities, including ability to read Kindle books, improved support for Microsoft Office and Edge, and progress made in supporting various Windows 10 features. Combined with the new NVDA Expert certification program, continued partnerships with Mozilla, Microsoft and other companies, and enthusiasm of users continues to drive NVDA’s progress in 2017. Joseph Lee, a contributor to NVDA screen reader, Windows Insider and a certified NVDA Expert, will tell you what NVDA community has been up to, including some of the new features, certification program, upcoming NVDACon, and demonstrate latest developments in supporting Edge and Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

Topics to be covered:

 

  • What’s new in NVDA since 2016.3 with demonstrations of select features.
  • Improved support for Microsoft Word, including sections and text columns.
  • Improved support for Microsoft Excel, including cell border announcement and sheet location.
  • Progress in Windows 10 and Edge support, including first letter navigation in Edge, reading PDF documents, story behind audio ducking in Creators Update.
  • Other features, including reading Kindle books, disabling add-ons, GUI improvements, line indentation tone and others.
  • Community updates, including certification program, NVDACon 2017, DictationBridge updates.

 

Presentation details:

 

  • Date: April 17, 2017.
  • Time: 5 PM Pacific (8 PM Eastern, 00:00 UTC, 10 AM on April 18th for some).
  • Place: Accessible World Tek Talk Training Room (www.accessibleworld.org).

 

To participate, you need to install TCConference software. Go to accessibleworld.org, choose Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room link, download and install the conferencing system, then log onto the room.

 

Hope to see you on April 17th.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

 

On that note I just checked the subject of this message.

If you need this thing to scan books, and things for school and or university or a job then you can get funding.

If you can get funding, k1000 is worth it in my opinion of using it in an alegal form for a number of years, I just can't justify the 2-3 grand I'd have to fork out for a ocr/ braille translater/scanner package.

But if you are getting funded, I'd go for something like this.

Either that or abbyy enterprise or the latest omnipage or paperport.

The only reason I went for abbyy was that I am now a home user.

k1000 uses both abbyy and omnipage developer engines but its just to deer for me though it is what I want.

On 11/04/2017 2:56 p.m., Shaun Everiss wrote:
Yes I have abbyy fine reader 14 standard.

It is one of the cheapest desktop scanners round, omnipage costs a bundle, and the things like k1000 cost a really large bundle though they are nice.

When I was in school and on the school network one of my friends gave me a cracked coppy of k1000 which I used on a lot of things back in the xp days.

But I'd have to get my own later on and it wasn't worth doing or using it.

Sadly abyy costs almost as much to upgrade as it does to buy but oh well.




On 11/04/2017 2:46 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary we always have to wait.

If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader, find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.



Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:
Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there and then I'd get and link it for when I do.




On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel











Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

 

Yes I have abbyy fine reader 14 standard.

It is one of the cheapest desktop scanners round, omnipage costs a bundle, and the things like k1000 cost a really large bundle though they are nice.

When I was in school and on the school network one of my friends gave me a cracked coppy of k1000 which I used on a lot of things back in the xp days.

But I'd have to get my own later on and it wasn't worth doing or using it.

Sadly abyy costs almost as much to upgrade as it does to buy but oh well.

On 11/04/2017 2:46 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary we always have to wait.

If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader, find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.



Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:
Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there and then I'd get and link it for when I do.




On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel











Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Alexander Masic
 

But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary we always have to wait.

If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader, find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.



Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:

Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there and then I'd get and link it for when I do.




On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel








Re: Using NVDA with Conexant smart Audio?

Quentin Christensen
 

I haven't used one of these, but perhaps you could disable the extra conexant software?  Or configure the speakers to use a different driver.

Actually, that's the other thing to check - is the audio driver up to date?  If you just got the computer, it might have been setup with an old image and need to update the drivers - Windows doesn't always do this automatically.

As I said, I haven't used that audio before, so maybe someone with direct experience can offer something concrete.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:
Hello,
I just got a new computer that uses Conexant smart Audio and the speech from NVDA is clipping off at the end of words. So rather than saying "start button: ctrl+aesc" it says "startbutton: ctrl+e".
This makes using NVDA really difficult. I have googled the problem and don't see any solution. I would really like to  use this computer!
Thanks,




--
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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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Using NVDA with Conexant smart Audio?

 

Hello,
I just got a new computer that uses Conexant smart Audio and the speech from NVDA is clipping off at the end of words. So rather than saying "start button: ctrl+aesc" it says "startbutton: ctrl+e".
This makes using NVDA really difficult. I have googled the problem and don't see any solution. I would really like to  use this computer!
Thanks,


Re: help

Devin Prater
 

If all else fails, use Google. In the search box, type:
define (word) where (word) is the word which you want defined. I know
that's not a direct answer to your needs, but some software just cannot
be made accessible with any screen reader unless the software engineer
wishes it.
--
Sent from Discordia using Gnus for Emacs.
Email: r.d.t.prater@...
Long days and pleasant nights!

"Marisane Moruthanyana" <marisanem@...> writes:

Evening folks

I am Marisane from SA.

I, this year, registered for English hons with the University of Limpopo.

My lecturer recommends that we use the dictionary for some of the exercises.

He advised us to buy Oxford or Cambridge dictionary.

Fortunately, there’s both dictionaries at my work place.

They are also in an electornic format, i.e. on a CD/DVD-ROM.

The IT colleague installed the dictionaries on two of the PCs in my work station.

One pc has Cambridge and the other Oxford.

The dictionaries are very inaccessible with a screen reader, i.e. nvda or jaws.

I use nvda as my main screen reader, but it cannot handle either of the dictionaries.

I switched to jaws to check if it can handle the dictionary, but it also couldn’t.

Does anyone of you know how to use these dictionaries with a screen reader?

Do you know whether nvda has an addon for anyone of the two?

Your help is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane


Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

 

Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there and then I'd get and link it for when I do.

On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel






Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

David Tanner
 

I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel






Re: need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

 

Might I ask what scanner or multi-function machine you will be using to scan with?  A very great many have OCR processing built-in to their scanner software and some of that can be quite accessible.


--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill