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Re: Keystroke for reading a specific Object

Brian Vogel
 

Jonathan,

         It's a nice add-on.  However, unless I'm doing something really wrong, and I don't think I am, the commands list on the add-on page has the key sequences for the first two commands flip-flopped.   Save position as currently listed shows the positions and show positions list tries to save a new one.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill
Re: Keystroke for reading a specific Object

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Brian.  I haven’t looked at that add-on but will give it a try and see how it goes.  I appreciate the suggestion.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keystroke for reading a specific Object

 

Jonathan,

           I can't say that this will be exactly what you want, but have you taken a look at the Golden Cursor add-on.  If you have mouse tracking on, and define the position of the object you wish to have read, you can then use Golden Cursor to jump to that position and mouse tracking will cause what's under the mouse to be read.

           It's not quite as easy as direct definition of a "jump to this spot" button, but it gets close.  I guess it also depends on the nature of the object on which you wish to place focus as well as far as how it would be read by mouse tracking.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

 
Re: Read current line 3 times to copy its content to clipboard?

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:

Actually the military spelling can be quite useful for people like
myself who have a slight hearing problem and sometimes find that it is
difficult to tell the difference between the letter t and the letter v
for instance.
Kevin Huber

On 4/19/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
If military spelling is to be preserved, the command would have to be four
times to copy to clip board. At present, one time says the current line.
Twice spells it. Three times spells it with military spelling. I don't
know if people use the military spelling option but three times to copy to
clipboard would remove it.

Gene

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 04:46 am, Gerardo Corripio wrote:


I've always wondered with nvda Why not PUT IN A COMMAND OF 3-TIMES
nvda+L (Laptop keyboard layout) that reads current line, 3-times so that
what NVDA just read gets copied onto the Clipboard? Just like the logic
behind NVDA+t 3-times to copy the title's content to the clipboard, the
same logic could be applied to NVDA+l 3-times, right? it's just so
natural of nvda+T 3-times that I've thought why not implement this into
copy current line? I'm always looking for ways to better NVDA, thus the
suggestion.
Re: Keystroke for reading a specific Object

Brian Vogel
 

Jonathan,

           I can't say that this will be exactly what you want, but have you taken a look at the Golden Cursor add-on.  If you have mouse tracking on, and define the position of the object you wish to have read, you can then use Golden Cursor to jump to that position and mouse tracking will cause what's under the mouse to be read.

           It's not quite as easy as direct definition of a "jump to this spot" button, but it gets close.  I guess it also depends on the nature of the object on which you wish to place focus as well as far as how it would be read by mouse tracking.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill
Re: Keystroke To Turn On Form Field Mode

Kevin Huber
 

Hi David:

Are you using Webvisom? If you are, that will probably be where the
clicks were coming from. I am using Window-eyes with Firefox, and I
get those same clicks.

Kevin Huber

On 4/20/17, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

During my last update from FireFox Mozilla, the click sound that
occurs when pressing enter on the program menu item, Mozilla, to open
my browser and homepage was disabled. I cannot locate a tutorial on
how to again enable this. Rebooting did not resolve the issue and
bring back the feature. Please direct where to search, or if simple
enough, provide hot key step to turn this back on. Thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
Keystroke To Turn On Form Field Mode

David Russell
 

Hi Group,

During my last update from FireFox Mozilla, the click sound that
occurs when pressing enter on the program menu item, Mozilla, to open
my browser and homepage was disabled. I cannot locate a tutorial on
how to again enable this. Rebooting did not resolve the issue and
bring back the feature. Please direct where to search, or if simple
enough, provide hot key step to turn this back on. Thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Antony Stone
 

Yes, but that could be expensive if your bank isn't in the same country as NV
Access' bank.


Antony.

On Thursday 20 April 2017 at 15:24:55, Gene wrote:

The site says that you can donate by a bank transfer.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Don, do you know someone you trust who does use Paypal, who you could give
or send the money to by whatever means you prefer, and get them to make
the transfer to NV Access?


Antony.

On Thursday 20 April 2017 at 14:59:47, Luke Scholey wrote:
I see. As far as I know the only other way to send the payment to NVDA is
via bank transfer or a cheque. I would get in contact with them to
achieve this. Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 13:39, Don H wrote:

Since I was screwed by PayPal I would hope you would find another way
to donate outside of Paypal. I will not use them in any way for
processing my payments.

On 4/20/2017 5:44 AM, Luke Scholey wrote:
PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time
payment using whatever you wish. Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to
my bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit,
which is mighty odd. I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly
altered something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations
either. I assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off,
not tried that yet. Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA

you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan"
<ferapan@utexas.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA

Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project
but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is
it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and
not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me
here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader,
at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
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something that no-one ever knew before.

In poetry, it is the exact opposite.

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Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Gene
 

The site says that you can donate by a bank transfer. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA

Don, do you know someone you trust who does use Paypal, who you could give or
send the money to by whatever means you prefer, and get them to make the
transfer to NV Access?


Antony.

On Thursday 20 April 2017 at 14:59:47, Luke Scholey wrote:

> I see. As far as I know the only other way to send the payment to NVDA is
> via bank transfer or a cheque. I would get in contact with them to achieve
> this. Luke
>
> > On 20 Apr 2017, at 13:39, Don H wrote:
> >
> > Since I was screwed by PayPal I would hope you would find another way to
> > donate outside of Paypal.  I will not use them in any way for processing
> > my payments.
> >
> >> On 4/20/2017 5:44 AM, Luke Scholey wrote:
> >> PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time
> >> payment using whatever you wish. Luke
> >>
> >>> On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my
> >>> bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit,
> >>> which is mighty odd. I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered
> >>> something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either. I
> >>> assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried
> >>> that yet. Brian
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA
> >>>
> >>>> you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan"
> >>>> <ferapan@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
> >>>> Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all, I hope you're all fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but
> >>>>> it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it
> >>>>> possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not
> >>>>> having to create a paypal account?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me
> >>>>> here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at
> >>>>> least with a little amount.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best of all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fernando Apan.

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Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Antony Stone
 

Don, do you know someone you trust who does use Paypal, who you could give or
send the money to by whatever means you prefer, and get them to make the
transfer to NV Access?


Antony.

On Thursday 20 April 2017 at 14:59:47, Luke Scholey wrote:

I see. As far as I know the only other way to send the payment to NVDA is
via bank transfer or a cheque. I would get in contact with them to achieve
this. Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 13:39, Don H wrote:

Since I was screwed by PayPal I would hope you would find another way to
donate outside of Paypal. I will not use them in any way for processing
my payments.

On 4/20/2017 5:44 AM, Luke Scholey wrote:
PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time
payment using whatever you wish. Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my
bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit,
which is mighty odd. I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered
something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either. I
assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried
that yet. Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA

you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan"
<ferapan@utexas.edu> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA

Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but
it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it
possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not
having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me
here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at
least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
--
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The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming "Damn! I
forgot to feed the dog!"

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Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Luke Scholey <lukescholey@...>
 

I see. As far as I know the only other way to send the payment to NVDA is via bank transfer or a cheque. I would get in contact with them to achieve this.
Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 13:39, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Since I was screwed by PayPal I would hope you would find another way to donate outside of Paypal. I will not use them in any way for processing my payments.

On 4/20/2017 5:44 AM, Luke Scholey wrote:
PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time payment using whatever you wish.
Luke
On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit, which is mighty odd.
I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either.
I assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried that yet.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Don H
 

Since I was screwed by PayPal I would hope you would find another way to donate outside of Paypal. I will not use them in any way for processing my payments.

On 4/20/2017 5:44 AM, Luke Scholey wrote:
PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time payment using whatever you wish.
Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit, which is mighty odd.
I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either.
I assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried that yet.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Keystroke for reading a specific Object

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

Is there a way for me to create a “hot spot” or use a Hotkey that would read a specific object within an application?  I would like to read the status of a countdown timer that is not automatically read now by NVDA.  I would like to somehow highlight the object that contains this information and then create a region that would read it when a keystroke is pressed.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Fernando Apan
 

Ok, I'll use it that way. Thanks a lot.


Fernando Apan.

El 20/04/2017 a las 03:46 a.m., Dennis L escribió:
you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Re: NVDA and LibreOffice annoyannces: dates

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Well, you are right.

This is another example of how we must adapt to the world and not the other way round...

But I keep thinking why early versions of LibreOffice Calc accepted this date formatting and why thy decided to change it.


Em 19/04/2017 16:53, Brian Vogel escreveu:

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:15 am, Walmir Schultz wrote:
I have a spreadsheet with gold prices that are composed of a column with mont/year and other wit the value.

Which I won't argue, nor will I argue with the utility of said column.  That column should be text, not date, as it is not interpretable as a date as computers define date. 
--
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            ~ Dorothy Nevill
Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Rui Fontes
 

Not yet...

Regards,

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Fantasy Sports
Data: 20 de abril de 2017 02:50
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function


Does anyone know if there is a way to download just a demo of the
voice package before buying it?
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Luke Scholey <lukescholey@...>
 

PayPal allows you to check out as a guest, so it will be a one time payment using whatever you wish.
Luke

On 20 Apr 2017, at 10:50, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit, which is mighty odd.
I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either.
I assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried that yet.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I have done this, but last time I used the paypal account linked to my bank account but it showed up on the statement as a direct debit, which is mighty odd.
I'll need to see if I have inadvertantly altered something in Paypal. I did not turn on monthly donations either.
I assume if this function is turned on it can be turned off, not tried that yet.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


you can use your vesa card on PayPal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Re: Question about donating to NVDA

Dennis L
 

you can use your vesa card on PayPal.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Fernando Apan" <ferapan@utexas.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about donating to NVDA


Hi all, I hope you're all fine.

It has been a while that I'm trying to donate to the NVDA project but it always appears the paypal opcion. My question here is: is it possible to make a donation using only my visa credit card and not having to create a paypal account?

I will deeply appreciate any help or advise you can guys give me here. I would love to contribute to this wonderful screen reader, at least with a little amount.

Best of all,

Fernando Apan.
Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

zahra
 

walmir,
if you did not have these problems in libreoffice 5.1 and you
incounter them only in 5.2 and later, you should subscribe in bugs
report for libreoffice and inform developers of libreoffice to fix
them.
www.bugs.libreoffice.org

On 4/19/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:28 am, Walmir Schultz wrote:


The fact that a screen reader announces something different than that is
shown in the screen is a very serious problem.

If we encounter this problem in a spreadsheet, the urgency of a solution
is unquestionable.
It is only truly urgent, as opposed to a major annoyance, if what is being
announced in reference to a number deprives you of the information you
need.

If something is set to display two or three decimal places and NVDA reads
five, as an example, you can still work with that.  Your description states
that there is an excess of information, not a lack of it.

If you believe you've found a bug, and I believe you have, then reporting it
via the NVDA Github bug reporting page is about all you can do.  Things get
fixed in due time.
--
*Brian*

*     * *The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.*

*           ~ Dorothy Nevill*

**
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Re: NVDA and Libreofice, a new problem: CRASH!!

zahra
 

hi walmir.
i recommend to test libreoffice 5.2.6.2, and waite also for 5.2.7
which is very near to release.
i read that the developers fixed some important bugs in libreoffice
which one of the openoffice users requested there fix in openoffice!
but libreoffice sometimes cant open a particular file and document
recovery appears.
its special for some documents and you should subscribe in
www.bugs.libreoffice.org
send your report and include your document for developers to fix.
hope that help and God bless you.

On 4/19/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
One of the reasons I decided to downgrade to LibreOffice 5.1.x was a new
problem.

While using Calc 5.3.2.1, the program crashes randomly, showing a
message saying that the files will be saved. Then a dialog invites to
send a report and the file recovering is launched.

As far as I know, this only occurs in conjunction with NVDA.





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