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Re: Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Paula Hobley <paula.hobley@...>
 

Hi Sylvie

I have experienced this issue along with the issue of NVDA not reading messages in Outlook. When I reinstalled the latest build of NVDA in a successful attempt to rectify the message reading issue, the lagging issues have been partially fixed. I still find that I have some lagging, but it is workable. Previously it was not, and I would have to load another screen reader in order to write my mail.

I hope this helps.

If you find a better solution, please let me know as the more I type in this message, the more lagging I am experiencing.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Hi Sylvie,

I am using Outlook 2016 with NVDA on Windows 10 and I do not encounter any slowing down between screens or when reading text. The only time I experience that kind of slowdown of speech is in Excel when I am reading formulas. NVDA takes a while to say "left paren" or "right paren". I looked into this and found that the mathematical symbols are not in the default dictionary file and NVDA has to go to another file to find the word to speak and describe the bracket under the cursor.

Your problem sounds so like this that I wonder if you have a language setting problem. Are you working in French or English? If in French, are you using Outlook in English while your language setting is French? On the other hand, is it the reverse? By that I mean, are you using French when your default language setting is English? Apart from either of these settings, do any of the words you meet have French accents or other French symbols? If so, then you may be experiencing the same problem as mine in Excel where NVDA has to go to a different file to find the words for those symbols.

Let me know if any of this applies to your situation.


Yours sincerely,

Cearbhall O'Meadhra

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Hello all,

First, let me introduce myself as I am new on this list.

My name is Sylvie, I live in France and work for a company training people on how to make web sites accessible to all.

I use NVDA as my primary screen reader and am really enthusiastic about it.

I write you today for one user who encounters a very slow behaviour of NVDA while using OUtlook 2016 on his Lenovo PC running on Windows 10.

He uses Google APP Sync in order to synchronise his mails, calendars and contacts between his different devices.

When he writes or displays e-mails, NVDA reacts very slowly. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 seconds while going to the next word.

He tried several things to solve the problem: changing his anti-virus software, disabling Windows Defender, changing settings on Outlook and Lenovo tools, but nothing has improved.

He installed Jaws 18 and did not encounter the same issue.

Has anyone similar problems or any solutions?

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Sylvie


Re: Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Paula Hobley <paula.hobley@...>
 

Hi Cearbhall

 

I am familiar with the issue you raise.  For me, my Gmail account would read perfectly, but my Microsoft Exchange account would not.  The only solution I found was to uninstall NVDA and install the latest build.  This has rectified the problem for me touch wood.

 

You can download this from the NVDA website and there is now an option allowing you not to donate if you are unable to.

 

I hope this helps

 

Cheers

 

Paula

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

Gene,

 

Thanks for the quick response.

 

I’ll take each of your points in turn:

  1. What happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again?

A: The problem persists.

 

  1. Move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.

A: This does not affect the behaviour. Like you, I tried this but it did not change anything. 

 

  1. control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view. 

A: Thanks for the advice! In fact, both actions work equally well in my Outlook message list as the messages are never unselected. However, I thank you for setting me straight on the purpose of these keystrokes!

 

Are you familiar with the problem which I have raised?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

This isn't a solution but what happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again? 

 

Another work around to try would be to move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.  You can try both and use whichever works or, if they both work, use the method you prefer.. 

 

Also, control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view.  Home and end are.  If you use control home and end. you will move to the top or bottom of the list or tree view, but the item you move to will not be selected.  using home and end moves you to and selects the first or last item and is consistent with the behavior of using the up and down arrow keys, that is, move and select.  Control home and end are correct commands for edit fields such as in word processors. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:08 PM

Subject: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

Hi,

 

I have an strange problem reading Messages in my inbox!

 

I am using Outlook 2016 in Windows 10 with NVDA . (All latest versions).

 

This problem happens frequently but not all the time. I cannot find out what the cause of the problem is. I also cannot see when it might or might not happen.

 

Here's the story:

I get about 200 messages a day from all the discussion lists that I am following and some personal emails. I like to keep my messages in reverse sort order so that the oldest are at the top. This way, I can keep the messages that interest me at the top of the list and delete the newer ones below when I don't want to keep them.

 

my method for managing the messages is to press  down-arrow on a message if I want to keep it so that the next message comes into focus. If I want to reject the message, I press the delete key. This moves the next message up into the position of the NVDA focus. In this way, I can move through all the messages rapidly.

 

When the mysterious problem appears, I have found that down-arrow reveals nothing. Just silence. I have to press tab to jump away from the message list and shift-tab to get back and then I find that NVDA+numpad 8 tells me that the next message has actually moved up into the focus position as you would expect. No amount of up-arrow or down-arrow yields any speech on each of the messages. As you know, what should happen is that I hear the sender and title information as the arrow moves from message to message.

 

I have persisted with down-arrow from silent message to silent message and found that I can get back to the normal echoing behaviour after about the 150th message! Alternatively, I can press control and end   to move to the 250th or last message in the Inbox where the movement of the up-arrow is echoed from message to message as normal. As an experiment, I have persisted with the up-arrow from the bottom of the list and found that when I arrive at the 150th message from the top, I suddenly lose the speaking of the sender and title details again. In other words, I am back into the unspeaking block of messages! I checked the 151st message and, sure enough, NVDA reads out the title details. Then I press up-arrow back to the 150th to find it silent and all the rest of the messages above it to the top continued silent as before.

 

I hope you can follow this! It is as if a curtain lies over the first 150 messages. I can get out from under the curtain at about the 151st message and proceed as normal to the last message. Likewise, I can jump to the bottom of the list and read all the message details until I rise back up to the bottom of the curtain at the 150th message.

 

As I said at the beginning, this does not happen every day but it does happen frequently.

 

The last time it happened, I saved the 150 curtained messages in a new folder and the unreadable behaviour persists even now.

Please understand that I can press enter on each message, whether curtained or not,  and read it perfectly. The problem is that of identifying the message in the Inbox list before opening it.

 

I would welcome any ideas or suggestions to see if I can get to the bottom of this behaviour.

By the way, JAWS does not have this problem only NVDA. I have tried JAWS 16 on the same curtained block of messages and JAWS can read each of the title details normally.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Gene
 

I don't recall if I've ever seen that specific problem discussed before.  I have a problem with my old version of Windows Live Mail that at times, I don't see new messages unless I leave the folder I'm in and return to it or cloase and reopen the program.  But I have no idea if the cause of the problem is related to yours. 
 
As for control home and end, it may not affect behavior in the e-mail program but it will in places like the desktop and Windows Explorer. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Gene,

 

Thanks for the quick response.

 

I’ll take each of your points in turn:

  1. What happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again?

A: The problem persists.

 

  1. Move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.

A: This does not affect the behaviour. Like you, I tried this but it did not change anything. 

 

  1. control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view. 

A: Thanks for the advice! In fact, both actions work equally well in my Outlook message list as the messages are never unselected. However, I thank you for setting me straight on the purpose of these keystrokes!

 

Are you familiar with the problem which I have raised?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

This isn't a solution but what happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again? 

 

Another work around to try would be to move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.  You can try both and use whichever works or, if they both work, use the method you prefer.. 

 

Also, control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view.  Home and end are.  If you use control home and end. you will move to the top or bottom of the list or tree view, but the item you move to will not be selected.  using home and end moves you to and selects the first or last item and is consistent with the behavior of using the up and down arrow keys, that is, move and select.  Control home and end are correct commands for edit fields such as in word processors. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:08 PM

Subject: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

Hi,

 

I have an strange problem reading Messages in my inbox!

 

I am using Outlook 2016 in Windows 10 with NVDA . (All latest versions).

 

This problem happens frequently but not all the time. I cannot find out what the cause of the problem is. I also cannot see when it might or might not happen.

 

Here's the story:

I get about 200 messages a day from all the discussion lists that I am following and some personal emails. I like to keep my messages in reverse sort order so that the oldest are at the top. This way, I can keep the messages that interest me at the top of the list and delete the newer ones below when I don't want to keep them.

 

my method for managing the messages is to press  down-arrow on a message if I want to keep it so that the next message comes into focus. If I want to reject the message, I press the delete key. This moves the next message up into the position of the NVDA focus. In this way, I can move through all the messages rapidly.

 

When the mysterious problem appears, I have found that down-arrow reveals nothing. Just silence. I have to press tab to jump away from the message list and shift-tab to get back and then I find that NVDA+numpad 8 tells me that the next message has actually moved up into the focus position as you would expect. No amount of up-arrow or down-arrow yields any speech on each of the messages. As you know, what should happen is that I hear the sender and title information as the arrow moves from message to message.

 

I have persisted with down-arrow from silent message to silent message and found that I can get back to the normal echoing behaviour after about the 150th message! Alternatively, I can press control and end   to move to the 250th or last message in the Inbox where the movement of the up-arrow is echoed from message to message as normal. As an experiment, I have persisted with the up-arrow from the bottom of the list and found that when I arrive at the 150th message from the top, I suddenly lose the speaking of the sender and title details again. In other words, I am back into the unspeaking block of messages! I checked the 151st message and, sure enough, NVDA reads out the title details. Then I press up-arrow back to the 150th to find it silent and all the rest of the messages above it to the top continued silent as before.

 

I hope you can follow this! It is as if a curtain lies over the first 150 messages. I can get out from under the curtain at about the 151st message and proceed as normal to the last message. Likewise, I can jump to the bottom of the list and read all the message details until I rise back up to the bottom of the curtain at the 150th message.

 

As I said at the beginning, this does not happen every day but it does happen frequently.

 

The last time it happened, I saved the 150 curtained messages in a new folder and the unreadable behaviour persists even now.

Please understand that I can press enter on each message, whether curtained or not,  and read it perfectly. The problem is that of identifying the message in the Inbox list before opening it.

 

I would welcome any ideas or suggestions to see if I can get to the bottom of this behaviour.

By the way, JAWS does not have this problem only NVDA. I have tried JAWS 16 on the same curtained block of messages and JAWS can read each of the title details normally.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Weather Plus update available

Lino Morales
 

Awesome Adrino. We really need to put this add-on on the NVDA add-ons page.


On 4/27/2017 3:12 PM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi to every one,
Changes to version 4.3 27.04.2017
* Added Romanian localization (thanks to Florian Ionașcu).

Weather Plus it can auto-update, but you can also download it from:
http://addons.nvda-project.org/
Direct download::
http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus4.3.nvda-addon?download=1
 
Cheers
Adriano


Re: Instant Translate - addon

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Gustavo,

The Instant Translate add-on can be found on the Add-ons page here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/instantTranslate.en.html

Once you have installed it, there is an extra item "Instant Translate" in the NVDA Preferences menu (Press NVDA+N then P to access), this lets you setup the desired languages to translate to and from.

Once you're setup, you can use it by selecting text or copying text to the clipboard, then:

"All following commands must be pressed after modifier key "NVDA+Shift+t":

  • T: Translate selected text,
  • Shift+t: translate text from the Clipboard,
  • S: swap source and target languages,
  • A: announce current configuration,
  • C: copy last result to clipboard,
  • I: identify the language of selected text,
  • H: announces all available commands to user."
Note, I copied that out of the information on the page I linked to, read through the whole page to get a full idea of all the features and how to use it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Luiz Gustavo dos Santos <gustavodote@...> wrote:
Hello.

Please can someone tell me how to access the translations made by the Instant Translate add-on?

Thank you



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Re: Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

Thanks for the quick response.

 

I’ll take each of your points in turn:

  1. What happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again?

A: The problem persists.

 

  1. Move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.

A: This does not affect the behaviour. Like you, I tried this but it did not change anything. 

 

  1. control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view. 

A: Thanks for the advice! In fact, both actions work equally well in my Outlook message list as the messages are never unselected. However, I thank you for setting me straight on the purpose of these keystrokes!

 

Are you familiar with the problem which I have raised?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

This isn't a solution but what happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again? 

 

Another work around to try would be to move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.  You can try both and use whichever works or, if they both work, use the method you prefer.. 

 

Also, control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view.  Home and end are.  If you use control home and end. you will move to the top or bottom of the list or tree view, but the item you move to will not be selected.  using home and end moves you to and selects the first or last item and is consistent with the behavior of using the up and down arrow keys, that is, move and select.  Control home and end are correct commands for edit fields such as in word processors. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:08 PM

Subject: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

 

Hi,

 

I have an strange problem reading Messages in my inbox!

 

I am using Outlook 2016 in Windows 10 with NVDA . (All latest versions).

 

This problem happens frequently but not all the time. I cannot find out what the cause of the problem is. I also cannot see when it might or might not happen.

 

Here's the story:

I get about 200 messages a day from all the discussion lists that I am following and some personal emails. I like to keep my messages in reverse sort order so that the oldest are at the top. This way, I can keep the messages that interest me at the top of the list and delete the newer ones below when I don't want to keep them.

 

my method for managing the messages is to press  down-arrow on a message if I want to keep it so that the next message comes into focus. If I want to reject the message, I press the delete key. This moves the next message up into the position of the NVDA focus. In this way, I can move through all the messages rapidly.

 

When the mysterious problem appears, I have found that down-arrow reveals nothing. Just silence. I have to press tab to jump away from the message list and shift-tab to get back and then I find that NVDA+numpad 8 tells me that the next message has actually moved up into the focus position as you would expect. No amount of up-arrow or down-arrow yields any speech on each of the messages. As you know, what should happen is that I hear the sender and title information as the arrow moves from message to message.

 

I have persisted with down-arrow from silent message to silent message and found that I can get back to the normal echoing behaviour after about the 150th message! Alternatively, I can press control and end   to move to the 250th or last message in the Inbox where the movement of the up-arrow is echoed from message to message as normal. As an experiment, I have persisted with the up-arrow from the bottom of the list and found that when I arrive at the 150th message from the top, I suddenly lose the speaking of the sender and title details again. In other words, I am back into the unspeaking block of messages! I checked the 151st message and, sure enough, NVDA reads out the title details. Then I press up-arrow back to the 150th to find it silent and all the rest of the messages above it to the top continued silent as before.

 

I hope you can follow this! It is as if a curtain lies over the first 150 messages. I can get out from under the curtain at about the 151st message and proceed as normal to the last message. Likewise, I can jump to the bottom of the list and read all the message details until I rise back up to the bottom of the curtain at the 150th message.

 

As I said at the beginning, this does not happen every day but it does happen frequently.

 

The last time it happened, I saved the 150 curtained messages in a new folder and the unreadable behaviour persists even now.

Please understand that I can press enter on each message, whether curtained or not,  and read it perfectly. The problem is that of identifying the message in the Inbox list before opening it.

 

I would welcome any ideas or suggestions to see if I can get to the bottom of this behaviour.

By the way, JAWS does not have this problem only NVDA. I have tried JAWS 16 on the same curtained block of messages and JAWS can read each of the title details normally.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Gene
 

This isn't a solution but what happens if you exit NVDA and then run it again? 
 
Another work around to try would be to move to the folders list, move out of the current folder, then back.  You can try both and use whichever works or, if they both work, use the method you prefer.. 
 
Also, control home and end are not the correct commands to use in a list or tree view.  Home and end are.  If you use control home and end. you will move to the top or bottom of the list or tree view, but the item you move to will not be selected.  using home and end moves you to and selects the first or last item and is consistent with the behavior of using the up and down arrow keys, that is, move and select.  Control home and end are correct commands for edit fields such as in word processors. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 5:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Hi,

 

I have an strange problem reading Messages in my inbox!

 

I am using Outlook 2016 in Windows 10 with NVDA . (All latest versions).

 

This problem happens frequently but not all the time. I cannot find out what the cause of the problem is. I also cannot see when it might or might not happen.

 

Here's the story:

I get about 200 messages a day from all the discussion lists that I am following and some personal emails. I like to keep my messages in reverse sort order so that the oldest are at the top. This way, I can keep the messages that interest me at the top of the list and delete the newer ones below when I don't want to keep them.

 

my method for managing the messages is to press  down-arrow on a message if I want to keep it so that the next message comes into focus. If I want to reject the message, I press the delete key. This moves the next message up into the position of the NVDA focus. In this way, I can move through all the messages rapidly.

 

When the mysterious problem appears, I have found that down-arrow reveals nothing. Just silence. I have to press tab to jump away from the message list and shift-tab to get back and then I find that NVDA+numpad 8 tells me that the next message has actually moved up into the focus position as you would expect. No amount of up-arrow or down-arrow yields any speech on each of the messages. As you know, what should happen is that I hear the sender and title information as the arrow moves from message to message.

 

I have persisted with down-arrow from silent message to silent message and found that I can get back to the normal echoing behaviour after about the 150th message! Alternatively, I can press control and end   to move to the 250th or last message in the Inbox where the movement of the up-arrow is echoed from message to message as normal. As an experiment, I have persisted with the up-arrow from the bottom of the list and found that when I arrive at the 150th message from the top, I suddenly lose the speaking of the sender and title details again. In other words, I am back into the unspeaking block of messages! I checked the 151st message and, sure enough, NVDA reads out the title details. Then I press up-arrow back to the 150th to find it silent and all the rest of the messages above it to the top continued silent as before.

 

I hope you can follow this! It is as if a curtain lies over the first 150 messages. I can get out from under the curtain at about the 151st message and proceed as normal to the last message. Likewise, I can jump to the bottom of the list and read all the message details until I rise back up to the bottom of the curtain at the 150th message.

 

As I said at the beginning, this does not happen every day but it does happen frequently.

 

The last time it happened, I saved the 150 curtained messages in a new folder and the unreadable behaviour persists even now.

Please understand that I can press enter on each message, whether curtained or not,  and read it perfectly. The problem is that of identifying the message in the Inbox list before opening it.

 

I would welcome any ideas or suggestions to see if I can get to the bottom of this behaviour.

By the way, JAWS does not have this problem only NVDA. I have tried JAWS 16 on the same curtained block of messages and JAWS can read each of the title details normally.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Unreadable message titles in Inbox list

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I have an strange problem reading Messages in my inbox!

 

I am using Outlook 2016 in Windows 10 with NVDA . (All latest versions).

 

This problem happens frequently but not all the time. I cannot find out what the cause of the problem is. I also cannot see when it might or might not happen.

 

Here's the story:

I get about 200 messages a day from all the discussion lists that I am following and some personal emails. I like to keep my messages in reverse sort order so that the oldest are at the top. This way, I can keep the messages that interest me at the top of the list and delete the newer ones below when I don't want to keep them.

 

my method for managing the messages is to press  down-arrow on a message if I want to keep it so that the next message comes into focus. If I want to reject the message, I press the delete key. This moves the next message up into the position of the NVDA focus. In this way, I can move through all the messages rapidly.

 

When the mysterious problem appears, I have found that down-arrow reveals nothing. Just silence. I have to press tab to jump away from the message list and shift-tab to get back and then I find that NVDA+numpad 8 tells me that the next message has actually moved up into the focus position as you would expect. No amount of up-arrow or down-arrow yields any speech on each of the messages. As you know, what should happen is that I hear the sender and title information as the arrow moves from message to message.

 

I have persisted with down-arrow from silent message to silent message and found that I can get back to the normal echoing behaviour after about the 150th message! Alternatively, I can press control and end   to move to the 250th or last message in the Inbox where the movement of the up-arrow is echoed from message to message as normal. As an experiment, I have persisted with the up-arrow from the bottom of the list and found that when I arrive at the 150th message from the top, I suddenly lose the speaking of the sender and title details again. In other words, I am back into the unspeaking block of messages! I checked the 151st message and, sure enough, NVDA reads out the title details. Then I press up-arrow back to the 150th to find it silent and all the rest of the messages above it to the top continued silent as before.

 

I hope you can follow this! It is as if a curtain lies over the first 150 messages. I can get out from under the curtain at about the 151st message and proceed as normal to the last message. Likewise, I can jump to the bottom of the list and read all the message details until I rise back up to the bottom of the curtain at the 150th message.

 

As I said at the beginning, this does not happen every day but it does happen frequently.

 

The last time it happened, I saved the 150 curtained messages in a new folder and the unreadable behaviour persists even now.

Please understand that I can press enter on each message, whether curtained or not,  and read it perfectly. The problem is that of identifying the message in the Inbox list before opening it.

 

I would welcome any ideas or suggestions to see if I can get to the bottom of this behaviour.

By the way, JAWS does not have this problem only NVDA. I have tried JAWS 16 on the same curtained block of messages and JAWS can read each of the title details normally.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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How to disable the "graphic" pronunciation in alternative texts?

Rafael Bald
 

Hello,

Sorry for my english, I'm using the google translator.

I work in a public university in Brazil and I am part of a project that seeks to understand and create a standardization in the elaboration of digital archives accessible to scientific publications and other magazines of the institution. Our audience is aimed at those with partial or total vision difficulties.

In short, we want to establish standards for the creation of accessible PDFs, which are read by NVDA, in a coherent and inherent way to the visual media.

During the test run, we had difficulty with how the screen reader ends up repeating the term "graphic" many times each time it encounters an alternative text function.

How to disable the "Graphic" quote at every encounter with the alternative text function in reading images from PDF files?


Greatful,


Weather Plus update available

Adriano Barbieri
 


Hi to every one,
Changes to version 4.3 27.04.2017
* Added Romanian localization (thanks to Florian Ionașcu).

Weather Plus it can auto-update, but you can also download it from:
http://addons.nvda-project.org/
Direct download::
http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus4.3.nvda-addon?download=1
 
Cheers
Adriano


Re: Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi Sylvie,

I am using Outlook 2016 with NVDA on Windows 10 and I do not encounter any slowing down between screens or when reading text. The only time I experience that kind of slowdown of speech is in Excel when I am reading formulas. NVDA takes a while to say "left paren" or "right paren". I looked into this and found that the mathematical symbols are not in the default dictionary file and NVDA has to go to another file to find the word to speak and describe the bracket under the cursor.

Your problem sounds so like this that I wonder if you have a language setting problem. Are you working in French or English? If in French, are you using Outlook in English while your language setting is French? On the other hand, is it the reverse? By that I mean, are you using French when your default language setting is English? Apart from either of these settings, do any of the words you meet have French accents or other French symbols? If so, then you may be experiencing the same problem as mine in Excel where NVDA has to go to a different file to find the words for those symbols.

Let me know if any of this applies to your situation.


Yours sincerely,

Cearbhall O'Meadhra

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 8:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Hello all,

First, let me introduce myself as I am new on this list.

My name is Sylvie, I live in France and work for a company training people on how to make web sites accessible to all.

I use NVDA as my primary screen reader and am really enthusiastic about it.

I write you today for one user who encounters a very slow behaviour of NVDA while using OUtlook 2016 on his Lenovo PC running on Windows 10.

He uses Google APP Sync in order to synchronise his mails, calendars and contacts between his different devices.

When he writes or displays e-mails, NVDA reacts very slowly. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 seconds while going to the next word.

He tried several things to solve the problem: changing his anti-virus software, disabling Windows Defender, changing settings on Outlook and Lenovo tools, but nothing has improved.

He installed Jaws 18 and did not encounter the same issue.

Has anyone similar problems or any solutions?

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Sylvie


Re: Setting NVDA's dictionary for different languages

Fernando Apan
 

Wow, it worked! Thanks a lot!


Fernando Apan.

El 27/04/2017 a las 07:51 a.m., Sylvie Duchateau escribió:
Hello Fernando,

When you are in "preferences", choose dictionary settings.

Then you can select default dictionary, voice dictionary or temporary dictionary.

If you select Voice dictionary, you may add an entry for the voice you are just using.

If you want to add a Facebook entry to your Spanish voice, choose this voice in your Voice settings, go back to dictionary and voice dictionary, then add the pronounciation you wish to hear.

I hope this helps.

Best

Sylvie

Le 27/04/2017 à 14:37, Fernando Apan a écrit :
Hi All,

I use NVDA with three different languages: english, french and spanish. So, my question is because in certain words, "facebook" for example, NVDA's dictionary is setup to read the word as it should sound in spanish, that would be feisbuk. If I want to read the same word with the english voice and don't want the same pronunciation than in spanish, how should I proceed?

Thanks in advance, best regards.


Fernando Apan.





Instant Translate - addon

Luiz Gustavo dos Santos <gustavodote@...>
 

Hello.

Please can someone tell me how to access the translations made by the Instant Translate add-on?

Thank you



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Livre de vírus. www.avg.com.


Re: Setting NVDA's dictionary for different languages

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Fernando,

When you are in "preferences", choose dictionary settings.

Then you can select default dictionary, voice dictionary or temporary dictionary.

If you select Voice dictionary, you may add an entry for the voice you are just using.

If you want to add a Facebook entry to your Spanish voice, choose this voice in your Voice settings, go back to dictionary and voice dictionary, then add the pronounciation you wish to hear.

I hope this helps.

Best

Sylvie

Le 27/04/2017 à 14:37, Fernando Apan a écrit :
Hi All,

I use NVDA with three different languages: english, french and spanish. So, my question is because in certain words, "facebook" for example, NVDA's dictionary is setup to read the word as it should sound in spanish, that would be feisbuk. If I want to read the same word with the english voice and don't want the same pronunciation than in spanish, how should I proceed?

Thanks in advance, best regards.


Fernando Apan.



Slow behavior of NVDA in Outlook 2016

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello all,

First, let me introduce myself as I am new on this list.

My name is Sylvie, I live in France and work for a company training people on how to make web sites accessible to all.

I use NVDA as my primary screen reader and am really enthusiastic about it.

I write you today for one user who encounters a very slow behaviour of NVDA while using OUtlook 2016 on his Lenovo PC running on Windows 10.

He uses Google APP Sync in order to synchronise his mails, calendars and contacts between his different devices.

When he writes or displays e-mails, NVDA reacts very slowly. It sometimes takes 3 or 4 seconds while going to the next word.

He tried several things to solve the problem: changing his anti-virus software, disabling Windows Defender, changing settings on Outlook and Lenovo tools, but nothing has improved.

He installed Jaws 18 and did not encounter the same issue.

Has anyone similar problems or any solutions?

Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Sylvie


Setting NVDA's dictionary for different languages

Fernando Apan
 

Hi All,

I use NVDA with three different languages: english, french and spanish. So, my question is because in certain words, "facebook" for example, NVDA's dictionary is setup to read the word as it should sound in spanish, that would be feisbuk. If I want to read the same word with the english voice and don't want the same pronunciation than in spanish, how should I proceed?

Thanks in advance, best regards.


Fernando Apan.


Heard of counting numbers in facebook site

Robert Mendoza
 

I don't know if you noticed or heard nvda is announcing of counting number in the background while navigating through the site of facebook, an I am using Firefox version 53 with the nvda version of 2017.1 on my Windows 10. Not sure what exactly could cause of this but, this is only primarily on the mentioned site happened.

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Need assistance with NVDA, serial terminal connection, and braille

Ian Stenseng <IStenseng@...>
 

I’m working on making a scale with serial output accessible to speech output and braille users by connecting it to a Windows 10 computer running NVDA. I’m using PuTTY as the terminal client at the moment. I can get the output to voice, but it doesn’t update the braille display. Does anyone have suggestions for a more compatible terminal application?

 

 

Thank you!

 

Ian Stenseng

Director of Accessibility and Training

The Lighthouse for the Blind, Inc.

 

Email: istenseng@... | x2461| Ext Phone: 206-973-4061 |Web: www.seattlelighthouse.org 

 

Our Mission:  To create and enhance opportunities for independence and self-sufficiency of people who are blind, DeafBlind, and blind with other disabilities.

 

 


Re: Link for downloading Windows Live Mail for Windows 7

 

Hello Brian,

Thanks much! I'll send the link or directly the downloaded installer package to my colleague to install it on that machine. I'll also save this installer in my programs folder just in case it is needed again in the future.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 26.4.2017 г. в 21:13, Brian Vogel написа:

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Re: Link for downloading Windows Live Mail for Windows 7

 

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/14680
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     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill