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Re: problems with vfo

Gene
 

It won't mean much of anything.  The acquisition may give VFO people with expertise in areas they don't have or don't have as much in now but it isn't in an area that they are competing directly in or are dominant in.  This is a lot of hand wringing over nothing.  It's obvious that VFo is losing significant market share to JAWS in the personal use market.  I don't know about in the business and academic markets.  But VFo is not a monopoly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with vfo

Oh boy.

Take a look at this article.
https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2016/03/the-paciello-group-and-nv-access-announce-partnership/

What will this mean for this deal?

On 5/4/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
> speaking of vfo they just snatched up another company
>
> I sware there ought to be a federal investigation in to there practices
> and I am dead serious on that one.
>
> see the below article from blind bargains.
>
>
>   VFO Expands Again with Acquisition of The Paciello Group
>
> J.J. Meddaugh <https://www.blindbargains.com/aboutauthor.php?u=1> May
> 01, 2017 7:22 PM ET
>
> VFO, owners of the Freedom Scientific, Optelec, and AI Squared brands,
> is growing in size once again with the acquisition of The Paciello Group.
> Founded in 2002, The Paciello Group specializes in accessibility testing
> and remediation, especially as it relates to WCAG 2.0 and Section 508,
> two standards which guide organizations and government agencies toward
> accessibility compliance. VFO had an existing team specializing in
> enterprise-class accessibility solutions, though the acquisition will
> allow them to put much more of a focus on these areas.
> Some of their clients according to their website include AT&T, The
> Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Google, Hyatt, and Charles Schwab.
>
>
>     In Their Own Words
>
>     The Paciello Group is passionately dedicated to helping government
>     agencies, technology vendors, e-commerce corporations, and
>     educational institutions make their technology equally accessible to
>     all people, including those with disabilities. The company offers
>     professional consulting, technology solutions, and services to
>     ensure that clients reach all audiences effectively and efficiently
>     while meeting commercial, governmental and international standards
>     such as Section 508 and WCAG.
>
> *Source:* The Paciello Group
> <http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?r=17124>
> *Category:* News <https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?cat_id=33>
> Displaying 1 comment.
> darknexus <https://www.blindbargains.com/view.php?u=1419> Tuesday,
> 02-May-2017 07:25 AM ET:
>
> Holy crap. Does anyone else realize that in any other industry, this
> would be grounds for a Federal investigation? Is anyone else worried by
> the worst screen reader maker acquiring the entire AT industry outside
> of Apple and Google? I know I am, considering their track record of
> crazy litigation.
>
> source:
>
> https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=17124
>
> thanks
>
> Hank
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:14 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>> It sounds like thats where I will go to.
>>
>> I hate to say this but it looks like vfo is not a company I want to
>> deal with if at all possible now if my workplace wants jaws I will use
>> it but even so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/05/2017 11:40 p.m., Josh Kennedy wrote:
>>> hello
>>>
>>> When I called vfo in the past they seemed quite hostile to my
>>> suggestion of making a free version of jaws. And also if you get a
>>> braille display in the future, I would recommend getting an orbit
>>> reader20 braille display plus book reader plus note taker all in one,
>>> from american printing house. It will probably be released next month
>>> in June. And a brand new orbit20 will only cost around or a bit less
>>> than $500 and its liquid and dust resistant, rugged and durable, the
>>> only one made to work in hostile environments. And it works good with
>>> NVDA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>



Re: Help! Any way to disable error sound?

Chris
 

Go into nvda settings and preferences then keyboard then uncheck play a sound on spelling errors

 

From: mk360
Sent: 04 May 2017 03:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Help! Any way to disable error sound?

 

Hi,

 

 

That is. I've a Word document but when I try to read it NVDA constantly

play the error sound and display an error in the log viewer. However,

NVDA reads the document, but the sound is too disturbing. So can I

disable the sound? I know that can be important for resolving bugs, bla

bla bla, but for now it is for my study, I have only some days to

prepare the test and is desperating... I can report that later, but now

I need to read it, and concentrate in it.

 

It is the error in the log, I've no idea why:

 

ERROR - RPC process 4504 (WINWORD.EXE) (23:08:55):

Thread 5996, build\x86\remote\winword.cpp,

detectAndGenerateColumnFormatXML, 962:

pageWidth does not equal the calculated page width. Some margin or

offset me be missed, this may mean that some column numbers reported

were incorrect. pageWidth: 612 colStartPos: 537.05

 

Thanks,

 

mk.

 

 

 

 


Re: Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look bbc I player?

Chris
 

yes it does it will list all current audio programs that are available on the iplayer

It will then take you to that page and all you have to do is press play that’s it

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: 04 May 2017 08:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look bbc I player?

 

Does it work with AD though?

 

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:14 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new

look bbc I player?

 

 

Well last nights EastEnders for example shows up amongst other programs from

last night

So it does still link to those

 

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Sent: 03 May 2017 09:34

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new

look bbc I player?

 

Not here it does notm, the old programs are still there but are gradually

going away and hence not being replaced by new ones.

 

Brian

 

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From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new

look bbc I player?

 

 

Nope, it still works fine no issues

 

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: 02 May 2017 09:34

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new

look bbc I player?

 

It now will not work I think you will find as the bbc removed the metadata

permanently last week. go check and join the  rest of us.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new

look bbc I player?

 

 

I still use webbies bbc iplayer tv 7

 

And still works even tho its not been updated in nearly three years

 

 

 

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: 01 May 2017 20:41

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look

bbc I player?

 

It seems that as well as taking away the xml code that webie used for

channel program listings, the pages have changed as well as for those in the

uk like myself it was relatively easy to find a show, go to the page say yes

to tv licence, and then select ways to watch and switch on the AD. NOw when

you go to say yes to the tv licence, it immediately plays and one cannot

even hear if the selection is there. One assumes its somewhere but either

nvda/firefox is not seeing it or they have completely screwed it up.

Has anyone here in the UK managed to watch  programme with AD since last

week when it changed without warning?

 

Is it just me or is it bust.

 

Brian

 

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Re: problems with vfo

Andre Fisher
 

Oh boy.

Take a look at this article.
https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2016/03/the-paciello-group-and-nv-access-announce-partnership/

What will this mean for this deal?

On 5/4/17, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:
speaking of vfo they just snatched up another company

I sware there ought to be a federal investigation in to there practices
and I am dead serious on that one.

see the below article from blind bargains.


VFO Expands Again with Acquisition of The Paciello Group

J.J. Meddaugh <https://www.blindbargains.com/aboutauthor.php?u=1> May
01, 2017 7:22 PM ET

VFO, owners of the Freedom Scientific, Optelec, and AI Squared brands,
is growing in size once again with the acquisition of The Paciello Group.
Founded in 2002, The Paciello Group specializes in accessibility testing
and remediation, especially as it relates to WCAG 2.0 and Section 508,
two standards which guide organizations and government agencies toward
accessibility compliance. VFO had an existing team specializing in
enterprise-class accessibility solutions, though the acquisition will
allow them to put much more of a focus on these areas.
Some of their clients according to their website include AT&T, The
Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Google, Hyatt, and Charles Schwab.


In Their Own Words

The Paciello Group is passionately dedicated to helping government
agencies, technology vendors, e-commerce corporations, and
educational institutions make their technology equally accessible to
all people, including those with disabilities. The company offers
professional consulting, technology solutions, and services to
ensure that clients reach all audiences effectively and efficiently
while meeting commercial, governmental and international standards
such as Section 508 and WCAG.

*Source:* The Paciello Group
<http://www.blindbargains.com/redirect.php?r=17124>
*Category:* News <https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?cat_id=33>
Displaying 1 comment.
darknexus <https://www.blindbargains.com/view.php?u=1419> Tuesday,
02-May-2017 07:25 AM ET:

Holy crap. Does anyone else realize that in any other industry, this
would be grounds for a Federal investigation? Is anyone else worried by
the worst screen reader maker acquiring the entire AT industry outside
of Apple and Google? I know I am, considering their track record of
crazy litigation.

source:

https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=17124

thanks

Hank


On 5/3/2017 6:14 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It sounds like thats where I will go to.

I hate to say this but it looks like vfo is not a company I want to
deal with if at all possible now if my workplace wants jaws I will use
it but even so.




On 3/05/2017 11:40 p.m., Josh Kennedy wrote:
hello

When I called vfo in the past they seemed quite hostile to my
suggestion of making a free version of jaws. And also if you get a
braille display in the future, I would recommend getting an orbit
reader20 braille display plus book reader plus note taker all in one,
from american printing house. It will probably be released next month
in June. And a brand new orbit20 will only cost around or a bit less
than $500 and its liquid and dust resistant, rugged and durable, the
only one made to work in hostile environments. And it works good with
NVDA.




.



Re: Help! Any way to disable error sound?

Brian's Mail list account
 

I don't think I've ever heard an error in a release build myself,even the pesky one in some windows 7 edit fields does not occur in those.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help! Any way to disable error sound?


Hi MK,

Which version of NVDA are you using? The error sound is expected for this
in snapshot builds, but in the stable NVDA 2017.1 should only generate the
message in the log.

This can be caused by documents created by some third party programs where
document properties, such as column width, aren't set properly. See this
issue for details: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6996

If you go into the page setup dialog in the document and ensure "gutter
position" has a value that should stop the error (assuming that is the
problem - if it's something else, please let me know).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:

Hi,


That is. I've a Word document but when I try to read it NVDA constantly
play the error sound and display an error in the log viewer. However, NVDA
reads the document, but the sound is too disturbing. So can I disable the
sound? I know that can be important for resolving bugs, bla bla bla, but
for now it is for my study, I have only some days to prepare the test and
is desperating... I can report that later, but now I need to read it, and
concentrate in it.

It is the error in the log, I've no idea why:

ERROR - RPC process 4504 (WINWORD.EXE) (23:08:55):
Thread 5996, build\x86\remote\winword.cpp, detectAndGenerateColumnFormatXML,
962:
pageWidth does not equal the calculated page width. Some margin or offset
me be missed, this may mean that some column numbers reported were
incorrect. pageWidth: 612 colStartPos: 537.05

Thanks,

mk.





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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look bbc I player?

Brian's Mail list account
 

Does it work with AD though?

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look bbc I player?


Well last nights EastEnders for example shows up amongst other programs from last night
So it does still link to those

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: 03 May 2017 09:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look bbc I player?

Not here it does notm, the old programs are still there but are gradually
going away and hence not being replaced by new ones.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new
look bbc I player?


Nope, it still works fine no issues



From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: 02 May 2017 09:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new
look bbc I player?

It now will not work I think you will find as the bbc removed the metadata
permanently last week. go check and join the rest of us.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new
look bbc I player?


I still use webbies bbc iplayer tv 7

And still works even tho its not been updated in nearly three years



From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: 01 May 2017 20:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anyone else having trouble finding the AD in the new look
bbc I player?

It seems that as well as taking away the xml code that webie used for
channel program listings, the pages have changed as well as for those in the
uk like myself it was relatively easy to find a show, go to the page say yes
to tv licence, and then select ways to watch and switch on the AD. NOw when
you go to say yes to the tv licence, it immediately plays and one cannot
even hear if the selection is there. One assumes its somewhere but either
nvda/firefox is not seeing it or they have completely screwed it up.
Has anyone here in the UK managed to watch programme with AD since last
week when it changed without warning?

Is it just me or is it bust.

Brian

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Re: Join us at NVDACon 2017!

 

hi.
is it possible to hold it also on skype?
i only have skype and i wish that can join.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 5/4/17, derek riemer <driemer.riemer@...> wrote:
Hi:
Yes, the presentations will be available for download on nvdacon.org, but
it may be a week or so after the conference.
Cheers,
Derek

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io <
carvernoah309@...> wrote:

Will the presentations from the conference be available for audio
download? I won't be able to attend all the keynotes, but I'm interested
in
listening to them.

Noah Carver

On May 3, 2017, at 15:54, derek riemer <driemer.riemer@...> wrote:

To NVDA users, developers, supporters, sponsors and interested parties
around the world:

The NVDA community and the NVDACon organizers would like to invite you to
join us on May 19th through 21st for NVDACon International 2017.

The NVDACon (NVDA Users and Developers Conference) is an annual gathering
of NVDA users, developers, supporters and sponsors around the world. This
online conference is designed to connect users and developers, hear
updates
on NVDA happenings, and let folks glimpse the future of the NVDA screen
reader. The 2017 conference, the fourth annual gathering, will feature
speakers from NV Access, DictationBridge, Google and many others who
can’t
wait to show their passion for NVDA and community engagement through
topics
such as NVDA updates, DictationBridge, Chrome, Windows 10 and others.

*Details:*

- Date: May 19 through 21, 2017
- Place: NVDACon TeamTalk Server (nvdacon.org)
- Keynote: NV Access
- Conference theme: community engagement

For more information about the conference, visit https://www.nvdacon.org.
and Welcome to NVDACon2017
<https://nvdacon.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/promo.mp3>!

We hope you can join us at NVDACon International 2017.

Sincerely,
NVDACon Organizing Committee (chair: Derek Riemer, University of Colorado
at Boulder)




--

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- University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
year undergraduate student.
- Accessibility enthusiast.
- Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
- Open source enthusiast.
- Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>




--

Derek Riemer: Improving the world one byte at a time!

- University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th
year undergraduate student.
- Accessibility enthusiast.
- Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
- Open source enthusiast.
- Skier.

Personal website <http://derekriemer.com>
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: In-Process 4th May

 

hi quentin.
i sincerely appreciate your great effort and pray for you.
i studied the link and i wished that know about aria!
because i thought that all web pages are completely accessible and i
did not know about aria 1.1 and its benefit.
when can we use aria?
for example: after release of nvda 2017.2 we can use it because we
recieve support for dynamic web pages?
or different browsers like firefox and chrome should add support for
accessibility of dynamic web pages for blind users?
and another question which i have is:
what are the dynamic pages exactly?
do you mean the web pages that use javascript and frames?
thanks extremely for your help, God bless you, i pray for you and
request divine infinite mercy for you.

On 5/4/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
May the Fourth be with you!

Yes, it's time for another edition of In-Process.

This week, gearing up for NVDA 2017.2 and NVDACon. Plus an in-depth a look
at the differences between installed, temporary and portable versions of #
NVDAsr
<https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/nvdasr?source=feed_text&story_id=1406614906071528>
as
well as when you might use each.

Check it out here: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/


--
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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: problems with vfo

 

speaking of vfo they just snatched up another company

I sware there ought to be a federal investigation in to there practices and I am dead serious on that one.

see the below article from blind bargains.

VFO Expands Again with Acquisition of The Paciello Group


VFO, owners of the Freedom Scientific, Optelec, and AI Squared brands, is growing in size once again with the acquisition of The Paciello Group.
Founded in 2002, The Paciello Group specializes in accessibility testing and remediation, especially as it relates to WCAG 2.0 and Section 508, two standards which guide organizations and government agencies toward accessibility compliance. VFO had an existing team specializing in enterprise-class accessibility solutions, though the acquisition will allow them to put much more of a focus on these areas.
Some of their clients according to their website include AT&T, The Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Google, Hyatt, and Charles Schwab.

In Their Own Words

The Paciello Group is passionately dedicated to helping government agencies, technology vendors, e-commerce corporations, and educational institutions make their technology equally accessible to all people, including those with disabilities. The company offers professional consulting, technology solutions, and services to ensure that clients reach all audiences effectively and efficiently while meeting commercial, governmental and international standards such as Section 508 and WCAG.

Source: The Paciello Group
Category: News
Displaying 1 comment.
darknexus Tuesday, 02-May-2017 07:25 AM ET:

Holy crap. Does anyone else realize that in any other industry, this would be grounds for a Federal investigation? Is anyone else worried by the worst screen reader maker acquiring the entire AT industry outside of Apple and Google? I know I am, considering their track record of crazy litigation.

source:

https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=17124

thanks

Hank


On 5/3/2017 6:14 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It sounds like thats where I will go to.

I hate to say this but it looks like vfo is not a company I want to deal with if at all possible now if my workplace wants jaws I will use it but even so.




On 3/05/2017 11:40 p.m., Josh Kennedy wrote:
hello

When I called vfo in the past they seemed quite hostile to my suggestion of making a free version of jaws. And also if you get a braille display in the future, I would recommend getting an orbit reader20 braille display plus book reader plus note taker all in one, from american printing house. It will probably be released next month in June. And a brand new orbit20 will only cost around or a bit less than $500 and its liquid and dust resistant, rugged and durable, the only one made to work in hostile environments. And it works good with NVDA.




.







Re: best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

 

can I get the website with your tutorials?


On 5/3/2017 5:51 PM, David Moore wrote:

Yes, using object navigation is the answer to accessing a lot with NVDA. Object navigation is very similar to the JAWS touch cursor. I would not even suggest using NVDA without learning all of the object navigations key commands. That is what makes NVDA access more controls for me than JAWS in programs and on web pages. Just press NVDA+N and arrow to the help menu, and open the users guide. Chapters 4 and five are crucial to memorize, because that is where you learn all about navigating with the review cursor, and navigating to each object or control and then reading what is on that object with the reading commands for the review cursor. I have tutorials for all of that.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

 

Do you know about working with object navigation?  The JAWS touch cursor is the rough equivalent of object navigation. I almost never use JAWS these days and I don't have Windows 10 but if you learn about object navigation, it will likely allow you to do what you want.  Other list members who know more about working with apps may have other, better suggestions but whatever the case, learning about object navigation is very worth while and it allows me to work with interfaces I couldn't work with otherwise.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Jessica D

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

 

Hi,I'm using NVDA, master snapshots, which are much more stable, on Windows 10, version 1703, rather than NVDA 2017.1. 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2017, at 8:20 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Jessica,

I use the touch cursor in JAWS to navigate the News App. This works very well. When you open the News App with JAWS 17 or 18, the touch cursor will come on automatically, and you can start pressing the right and left arrow keys to go through the different News articles. When you hear a title of a news article, press enter, then you can press right arrow to read the different hunks of the article. The entire article will not read; you pres the right arrow, listen to part of it, then press right arrow to hear more until you are done. If you want to use all of your reading commands to read word by word, for example, you have to enter text mode. To do this, press insert+enter. You will hear a sound, and then you can read that section of the article with up and arrow, and so on. When you are ready to go back to the touch cursor, just press escape, and then you can right arrow to the next hunk. You will know when you come to the end of that article, and then you just keep pressing the right arrow to get to the next article with the touch cursor turned on. To set up your news so you will get the articles that you are interested in to come up, turn off the touch cursor, and tab to a list of the different kinds of news that you can select from. Top headlines is already chosen. You can choose from sports news, and many other types of news. From then on, those articles of news will be there as you press the right arrow with the touch cursor turned on. Let us know if you have anymore questions after you try this. Let us know how it goes.

David Moore

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From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 1:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

 

Hi,

I would like to know how to read news using the news app in Windows 10.

NVDA and narrator won’t work for this.

Can anyonr help?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

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Re: The windows store in windows 10

 

what other sources do you use?

On 5/3/2017 5:06 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi guys


is there people on the list who have used the store to get apps etc? I
was just having a sus and it looks as though you tab/ shift tab and in
parts use object navigation.


I usually just download desk top apps from other sources.


Is the windows store more for metro apps? or can you also get desk top apps?


has any one done a tutorial on how to use it with NVDA? wheather it is
written or audio on the basics of navigating the store etc.


not sure if it is some thing i would use but there might be others out
there who want to use it. If there is a tutorial can you share it?


Gene nz



In-Process 4th May

Quentin Christensen
 

May the Fourth be with you!

Yes, it's time for another edition of In-Process.

This week, gearing up for NVDA 2017.2 and NVDACon. Plus an in-depth a look at the differences between installed, temporary and portable versions of #NVDAsr as well as when you might use each.



--
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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: The windows store in windows 10

 

Hi,
I will talk about Windows Store in general at at NVDACon (with a surprise on top).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The windows store in windows 10

Have used it for a couple of things, but, nothing major, and not too often, and, yes, just had to tab around a bit as well.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-05-04 02:06, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi guys


is there people on the list who have used the store to get apps etc? I
was just having a sus and it looks as though you tab/ shift tab and in
parts use object navigation.


I usually just download desk top apps from other sources.


Is the windows store more for metro apps? or can you also get desk top apps?


has any one done a tutorial on how to use it with NVDA? wheather it is
written or audio on the basics of navigating the store etc.


not sure if it is some thing i would use but there might be others out
there who want to use it. If there is a tutorial can you share it?


Gene nz



Re: The windows store in windows 10

Jacob Kruger
 

Have used it for a couple of things, but, nothing major, and not too often, and, yes, just had to tab around a bit as well.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-05-04 02:06, Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi guys


is there people on the list who have used the store to get apps etc? I
was just having a sus and it looks as though you tab/ shift tab and in
parts use object navigation.


I usually just download desk top apps from other sources.


Is the windows store more for metro apps? or can you also get desk top apps?


has any one done a tutorial on how to use it with NVDA? wheather it is
written or audio on the basics of navigating the store etc.


not sure if it is some thing i would use but there might be others out
there who want to use it. If there is a tutorial can you share it?


Gene nz



Re: Join us at NVDACon 2017!

derek riemer
 

Hi:
Yes, the presentations will be available for download on nvdacon.org, but it may be a week or so after the conference.
Cheers,
Derek

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io <carvernoah309@...> wrote:
Will the presentations from the conference be available for audio download? I won't be able to attend all the keynotes, but I'm interested in listening to them.

Noah Carver

On May 3, 2017, at 15:54, derek riemer <driemer.riemer@...> wrote:

To NVDA users, developers, supporters, sponsors and interested parties around the world:

The NVDA community and the NVDACon organizers would like to invite you to join us on May 19th through 21st for NVDACon International 2017.

The NVDACon (NVDA Users and Developers Conference) is an annual gathering of NVDA users, developers, supporters and sponsors around the world. This online conference is designed to connect users and developers, hear updates on NVDA happenings, and let folks glimpse the future of the NVDA screen reader. The 2017 conference, the fourth annual gathering, will feature speakers from NV Access, DictationBridge, Google and many others who can’t wait to show their passion for NVDA and community engagement through topics such as NVDA updates, DictationBridge, Chrome, Windows 10 and others.

Details:

  • Date: May 19 through 21, 2017
  • Place: NVDACon TeamTalk Server (nvdacon.org)
  • Keynote: NV Access
  • Conference theme: community engagement

For more information about the conference, visit https://www.nvdacon.org. and Welcome to NVDACon2017!

We hope you can join us at NVDACon International 2017.

Sincerely,
NVDACon Organizing Committee (chair: Derek Riemer, University of Colorado at Boulder)

 



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  • University of Colorado Boulder Department of computer science, 4th year undergraduate student.
  • Accessibility enthusiast.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Skier.

Personal website



Re: Help! Any way to disable error sound?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi MK,

Which version of NVDA are you using?  The error sound is expected for this in snapshot builds, but in the stable NVDA 2017.1 should only generate the message in the log.

This can be caused by documents created by some third party programs where document properties, such as column width, aren't set properly.  See this issue for details: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6996

If you go into the page setup dialog in the document and ensure "gutter position" has a value that should stop the error (assuming that is the problem - if it's something else, please let me know).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote:
Hi,


That is. I've a Word document but when I try to read it NVDA constantly play the error sound and display an error in the log viewer. However, NVDA reads the document, but the sound is too disturbing. So can I disable the sound? I know that can be important for resolving bugs, bla bla bla, but for now it is for my study, I have only some days to prepare the test and is desperating... I can report that later, but now I need to read it, and concentrate in it.

It is the error in the log, I've no idea why:

ERROR - RPC process 4504 (WINWORD.EXE) (23:08:55):
Thread 5996, build\x86\remote\winword.cpp, detectAndGenerateColumnFormatXML, 962:
pageWidth does not equal the calculated page width. Some margin or offset me be missed, this may mean that some column numbers reported were incorrect. pageWidth: 612 colStartPos: 537.05

Thanks,

mk.







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Re: Help! Any way to disable error sound?

Gene
 

I'm not sure if there is a way other than this but before I go into it in more detail than I am now, I'll wait and see.  But one thing you can do is to create a wave file with a bit of silence and nothing else.  Then you can replace the error wave file with that one.  I'm not sure where the files are stored in the installed version.  I have such a file if you want it and I use it in the portable version I run to eliminate sounds I don't want. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: mk360
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Help! Any way to disable error sound?

Hi,


That is. I've a Word document but when I try to read it NVDA constantly
play the error sound and display an error in the log viewer. However,
NVDA reads the document, but the sound is too disturbing. So can I
disable the sound? I know that can be important for resolving bugs, bla
bla bla, but for now it is for my study, I have only some days to
prepare the test and is desperating... I can report that later, but now
I need to read it, and concentrate in it.

It is the error in the log, I've no idea why:

ERROR - RPC process 4504 (WINWORD.EXE) (23:08:55):
Thread 5996, build\x86\remote\winword.cpp,
detectAndGenerateColumnFormatXML, 962:
pageWidth does not equal the calculated page width. Some margin or
offset me be missed, this may mean that some column numbers reported
were incorrect. pageWidth: 612 colStartPos: 537.05

Thanks,

mk.




Re: best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Andre Fisher
 

Additionally, on just using the app, Object navigation is extremely
good. So there's no need for an add-on after all.

On 5/3/17, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
I have found that using the NVDA add-on ObjPad with the News App with
Scan mode is a good experience. See the add-on site for info.

On 5/3/17, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Yes, using object navigation is the answer to accessing a lot with NVDA.
Object navigation is very similar to the JAWS touch cursor. I would not
even
suggest using NVDA without learning all of the object navigations key
commands. That is what makes NVDA access more controls for me than JAWS
in
programs and on web pages. Just press NVDA+N and arrow to the help menu,
and
open the users guide. Chapters 4 and five are crucial to memorize,
because
that is where you learn all about navigating with the review cursor, and
navigating to each object or control and then reading what is on that
object
with the reading commands for the review cursor. I have tutorials for all
of
that.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Do you know about working with object navigation?  The JAWS touch cursor
is
the rough equivalent of object navigation. I almost never use JAWS these
days and I don't have Windows 10 but if you learn about object
navigation,
it will likely allow you to do what you want.  Other list members who
know
more about working with apps may have other, better suggestions but
whatever
the case, learning about object navigation is very worth while and it
allows
me to work with interfaces I couldn't work with otherwise.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Hi,I'm using NVDA, master snapshots, which are much more stable, on
Windows
10, version 1703, rather than NVDA 2017.1.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 3, 2017, at 8:20 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi Jessica,
I use the touch cursor in JAWS to navigate the News App. This works very
well. When you open the News App with JAWS 17 or 18, the touch cursor
will
come on automatically, and you can start pressing the right and left
arrow
keys to go through the different News articles. When you hear a title of
a
news article, press enter, then you can press right arrow to read the
different hunks of the article. The entire article will not read; you
pres
the right arrow, listen to part of it, then press right arrow to hear
more
until you are done. If you want to use all of your reading commands to
read
word by word, for example, you have to enter text mode. To do this, press
insert+enter. You will hear a sound, and then you can read that section
of
the article with up and arrow, and so on. When you are ready to go back
to
the touch cursor, just press escape, and then you can right arrow to the
next hunk. You will know when you come to the end of that article, and
then
you just keep pressing the right arrow to get to the next article with
the
touch cursor turned on. To set up your news so you will get the articles
that you are interested in to come up, turn off the touch cursor, and tab
to
a list of the different kinds of news that you can select from. Top
headlines is already chosen. You can choose from sports news, and many
other
types of news. From then on, those articles of news will be there as you
press the right arrow with the touch cursor turned on. Let us know if you
have anymore questions after you try this. Let us know how it goes.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 1:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Hi,
I would like to know how to read news using the news app in Windows 10.
NVDA and narrator won’t work for this.
Can anyonr help?
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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Help! Any way to disable error sound?

mk360
 

Hi,


That is. I've a Word document but when I try to read it NVDA constantly play the error sound and display an error in the log viewer. However, NVDA reads the document, but the sound is too disturbing. So can I disable the sound? I know that can be important for resolving bugs, bla bla bla, but for now it is for my study, I have only some days to prepare the test and is desperating... I can report that later, but now I need to read it, and concentrate in it.

It is the error in the log, I've no idea why:

ERROR - RPC process 4504 (WINWORD.EXE) (23:08:55):
Thread 5996, build\x86\remote\winword.cpp, detectAndGenerateColumnFormatXML, 962:
pageWidth does not equal the calculated page width. Some margin or offset me be missed, this may mean that some column numbers reported were incorrect. pageWidth: 612 colStartPos: 537.05

Thanks,

mk.


Re: best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Andre Fisher
 

I have found that using the NVDA add-on ObjPad with the News App with
Scan mode is a good experience. See the add-on site for info.

On 5/3/17, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Yes, using object navigation is the answer to accessing a lot with NVDA.
Object navigation is very similar to the JAWS touch cursor. I would not even
suggest using NVDA without learning all of the object navigations key
commands. That is what makes NVDA access more controls for me than JAWS in
programs and on web pages. Just press NVDA+N and arrow to the help menu, and
open the users guide. Chapters 4 and five are crucial to memorize, because
that is where you learn all about navigating with the review cursor, and
navigating to each object or control and then reading what is on that object
with the reading commands for the review cursor. I have tutorials for all of
that.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 8:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Do you know about working with object navigation?  The JAWS touch cursor is
the rough equivalent of object navigation. I almost never use JAWS these
days and I don't have Windows 10 but if you learn about object navigation,
it will likely allow you to do what you want.  Other list members who know
more about working with apps may have other, better suggestions but whatever
the case, learning about object navigation is very worth while and it allows
me to work with interfaces I couldn't work with otherwise.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Hi,I'm using NVDA, master snapshots, which are much more stable, on Windows
10, version 1703, rather than NVDA 2017.1.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 3, 2017, at 8:20 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Hi Jessica,
I use the touch cursor in JAWS to navigate the News App. This works very
well. When you open the News App with JAWS 17 or 18, the touch cursor will
come on automatically, and you can start pressing the right and left arrow
keys to go through the different News articles. When you hear a title of a
news article, press enter, then you can press right arrow to read the
different hunks of the article. The entire article will not read; you pres
the right arrow, listen to part of it, then press right arrow to hear more
until you are done. If you want to use all of your reading commands to read
word by word, for example, you have to enter text mode. To do this, press
insert+enter. You will hear a sound, and then you can read that section of
the article with up and arrow, and so on. When you are ready to go back to
the touch cursor, just press escape, and then you can right arrow to the
next hunk. You will know when you come to the end of that article, and then
you just keep pressing the right arrow to get to the next article with the
touch cursor turned on. To set up your news so you will get the articles
that you are interested in to come up, turn off the touch cursor, and tab to
a list of the different kinds of news that you can select from. Top
headlines is already chosen. You can choose from sports news, and many other
types of news. From then on, those articles of news will be there as you
press the right arrow with the touch cursor turned on. Let us know if you
have anymore questions after you try this. Let us know how it goes.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 1:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] best way to read news with the app in Windows 10

Hi,
I would like to know how to read news using the news app in Windows 10.
NVDA and narrator won’t work for this.
Can anyonr help?
Thanks,
Jessica


Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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