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Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Gene
 

I don't use the laptop layout.  Also, are you saying that JAWS sees a button and NVDA doesn't?  It may be, from what you say that NVDA sees the item as something it announces as clickable.  But it is important to be clear about whether NVDA announces button or clicable.
 
I don't know if this is a bug.  It may be something that should be looked at but at this point, we have to be clear about what NVDA announces.  Also, when you are looking at an album, does each song have a button in JAWS?  In NVDA, each song has one or two clickable items you can press enter on to play.  Perhaps the first clickable item that causes the entire album to play doesn't work with enter but the individual song items do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Seems rather awkkward, given that JAWS simply sees this is a button and responds accordingly! Seems like this is a definite bug that needs fixing! What are the laptop equivalents of the keystrokes you suggest? Thanks.

Daveed



 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene  <gsasner@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

>
>
> The following applies to all browsers that use browse mode.  If a button doesn't activate with the space bar, try enter.  If neither work, try the activate command in NVDA, numpad insert and, while holding it, press numpad enter.  That's the long key at the bottom right of the numpad.  The bottom most key.
> If that doesn't work, route the mouse to the object navigator's position, numpad insert and while holding it, numpad asterisk, the key immediately to the right of the numlock.  Then try left clicking using just numpad asterisk by itself.  Again, that is the key immediately to the right of the numlock.
> I'm giving these suggestions but their order isn't meant to imply which should be tried in what order.
> Another thing to try is to move to the button, turn browse mode off, then try space bar and enter if space doesn't work.
> Turn browse mode off with insert space bar.  Turn it on again with the same command, insert space bar.  You may use either insert.

> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Louis Maher
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites
>
>
> Recently, I have had buttons not be shown with Firefox 53  on the Chase and
> PayPal web pages. I have switched to the Chrome browser.  You might try a
> different browser.
>
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone: 713-444-7838
> E-mail: ljmaher@...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daveed
> Mandell
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites
>
> Hello:
>
> I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance,
> on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However,
> when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens. I still use JAWS
> infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play
> bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or
> must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions
> and/or assistance.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daveed Mandell
>
>
>

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Ann Byrne
 

You're thinking of the insert key on the six pack? Interesting idea.

At 05:10 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
yes, the numpad arrows can't be used. But where is the insert on the main keyboard, not the numpad insert? If that is in the ordinary place, insert down arrow, both on the main keyboard is not a difficult command.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net>Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:56 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

But he can't use the numpad arrows, right? they are all involved
with review, not cursor movement.
At 10:56 AM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
When I made my comments, I was thinking that the numpad was in the
usual place. Regardless of its location, insert on the main
keyboard and down arrow on the main keyboard is the best way to
execute the command unless you remap it. It may be found to be easy
enough that remapping isn't necessary or advantageous. the numpad
arrow keys, 2 and 8, don't duplicate the main keyboard arrow keys
when NVDA is running. They are used in screen review and in
combination with the numpad insert for object navigation. If you
use numpad insert, you are duplicating the main keyboard insert but
you still must use down arrow on the main keyboard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:
<<mailto:tsiegel@softcon.com>Travis>mailto:tsiegel@softcon.com>Travis Siegel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:38 AM
To:
<<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io>mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Yes, but if his numpad is on the left side, then the capslock key would
be considerably closer to the numpad (and presumably the arrows) than it
would be on a normal keyboard, that's why the suggestion was made.
However, since the insert on the numpad works just fine, I don't see any
reason to modify the keyboard configuration to laptop or to use the
capslock key, just use the insert and numpad arrows to do things, it
should work just fine. The zero on the numpad doubles as an insert key,
so there should be no issues with reaching the various NVDA functions.
I don't have a keyboard with the numpad on the left, but I'd sure not mind
one, I'm (mostly) ambidexterous myself, and sometimes having to reach over
with the right hand is irritating, I use the capslock key for that reason
myself, so I can use whichever hand I'm comfortable with at the moment, so
I have both enabled myself, even though I don't use a laptop keyboard or
layout. It's all about what works for any given individual, and that's
the nice thing about many many programs, including NVDA, there's usually
more than one way to do things, which means there's likely to be something
that fits any given situation.


On Tue, 16 May 2017, Gene wrote:

But its far more convenient to use the main keyboard insert and
down arrow
with one hand than caps lock a.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 AM
To:
<<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io>mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

If you switch to Laptop keyboard, Say all is CapsLock +A.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Ann Byrne
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 15:18
Para:
<<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io>mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

My student is currently using a keyboard with the numpad, including
the enter key, to the left of the regular keys instead of the
right. Using capslock as the NVDA key. Is there an alternative to
NVDA+down arrow for sayAll? He can use the numpad keys, but that is
only the review cursor. Unable to use his right hand at all, he
would have to reach from capslock to the arrows to do this,
yes? He's a guy with lovely large hands ... but not quite *that large.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Ann













Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Gene
 

I wanto to be clear about this.  When I look at a page with one or more items that can be played, NVDA doesn't announce any buttons.  It announces clicable.  Are you saying that NVDA announces the word "button" when you look at the page?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Yes, but your remark is somewhat irrelevant, because no matter what, nothing happens - button, link or not. So what do I do? Thanks so much.
Daveed



 

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel  <britechguy@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:11 am
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

>
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:51 am, Gene wrote:
>
> I don't know what you are seeing as buttons.
> I don't know if the original poster might be partially sighted or, for that matter, if you may be Gene, but based just upon the entire response I've quoted part of I suspect not
>
> One of the things that drives me crazy as a sighted instructor for screen reader learners is the fact that there are now tons of websites that present what are links under the guise of buttons as far as the visual presentation goes.  I will often say to a student, "Use the 'b' shortcut to jump around the buttons until you hear . . .,was when that seems appropriate only to find that what appears to be a button in reality is not.   It's getting even harder to tell now with the "flat look" being all the rage and there being no attempt to give visual 3D-ish effects to a button.  Buttons appear as a non-photographic graphic rather than an imitation of a button with shading, etc., and effectively are like what used to be called hotspots (and probably still are when you're talking about different areas of a large photograph on which various areas can be activated like a button or link).
>
> I went to that website and it is possible that there are some of those evil "looks like a button but is actually a link" situations, but I'd need a specific page to test that out.
> --
> Brian         Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

>      Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.
>             ~ Mark Twain


>



Re: NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Gene
 

yes, the numpad arrows can't be used.  But where is the insert on the main keyboard, not the numpad insert?  If that is in the ordinary place, insert down arrow, both on the main keyboard is not a difficult command.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

But he can't use the numpad arrows, right?  they are all involved
with review, not cursor movement.
At 10:56 AM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
>When I made my comments, I was thinking that the numpad was in the
>usual place.  Regardless of its location, insert on the main
>keyboard and down arrow on the main keyboard is the best way to
>execute the command unless you remap it.  It may be found to be easy
>enough that remapping isn't necessary or advantageous.  the numpad
>arrow keys, 2 and 8, don't duplicate the main keyboard arrow keys
>when NVDA is running.  They are used in screen review and in
>combination with the numpad insert for object navigation.  If you
>use numpad insert, you are duplicating the main keyboard insert but
>you still must use down arrow on the main keyboard.
>
>Gene
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:tsiegel@...>Travis Siegel
>Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:38 AM
>To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard
>
>Yes, but  if his numpad is on the left side, then the capslock key would
>be considerably closer to the numpad (and presumably the arrows) than it
>would be on a normal keyboard, that's why the suggestion was made.
>However, since the insert on the numpad works just fine, I don't see any
>reason to modify the keyboard configuration to laptop or to use the
>capslock key, just use the insert and numpad arrows to do things, it
>should work just fine.  The zero on the numpad doubles as an insert key,
>so there should be no issues with reaching the various NVDA functions.
>I don't have a keyboard with the numpad on the left, but I'd sure not mind
>one, I'm (mostly) ambidexterous myself, and sometimes having to reach over
>with the right hand is irritating, I use the capslock key for that reason
>myself, so I can use whichever hand I'm comfortable with at the moment, so
>I have both enabled myself, even though I don't use a laptop keyboard or
>layout.  It's all about what works for any given individual, and that's
>the nice thing about many many programs, including NVDA, there's usually
>more than one way to do things, which means there's likely to be something
>that fits any given situation.
>
>
>On Tue, 16 May 2017, Gene wrote:
>
> > But its far more convenient to use the main keyboard insert and down arrow
> > with one hand than caps lock a.
> >
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rui Fontes
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 AM
> > To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard
> >
> > If you switch to Laptop keyboard, Say all is CapsLock +A.
> >
> > Rui
> >
> >
> > -----Mensagem Original-----
> > De: Ann Byrne
> > Data: 16 de maio de 2017 15:18
> > Para: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Assunto: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard
> >
> > My student is currently using a keyboard with the numpad, including
> > the enter key, to the left of the regular keys instead of the
> > right.  Using capslock as the NVDA key.  Is there an alternative to
> > NVDA+down arrow for sayAll?  He can use the numpad keys, but that is
> > only the review cursor.  Unable to use his right hand at all, he
> > would have to reach from capslock to the arrows to do this,
> > yes?  He's a guy with lovely large hands ... but not quite *that large.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ann
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>




Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Daveed Mandell <daveedmandell@...>
 

Seems rather awkkward, given that JAWS simply sees this is a button and responds accordingly! Seems like this is a definite bug that needs fixing! What are the laptop equivalents of the keystrokes you suggest? Thanks.

Daveed

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites



The following applies to all browsers that use browse mode. If a button doesn't activate with the space bar, try enter. If neither work, try the activate command in NVDA, numpad insert and, while holding it, press numpad enter. That's the long key at the bottom right of the numpad. The bottom most key.
If that doesn't work, route the mouse to the object navigator's position, numpad insert and while holding it, numpad asterisk, the key immediately to the right of the numlock. Then try left clicking using just numpad asterisk by itself. Again, that is the key immediately to the right of the numlock.
I'm giving these suggestions but their order isn't meant to imply which should be tried in what order.
Another thing to try is to move to the button, turn browse mode off, then try space bar and enter if space doesn't work.
Turn browse mode off with insert space bar. Turn it on again with the same command, insert space bar. You may use either insert.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Louis Maher
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites


Recently, I have had buttons not be shown with Firefox 53 on the Chase and
PayPal web pages. I have switched to the Chrome browser. You might try a
different browser.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daveed
Mandell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Hello:

I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance,
on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However,
when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens. I still use JAWS
infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play
bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or
must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions
and/or assistance.

Regards,

Daveed Mandell













Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Daveed Mandell <daveedmandell@...>
 

Yes, but your remark is somewhat irrelevant, because no matter what, nothing happens - button, link or not. So what do I do? Thanks so much.
Daveed

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:11 am
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites



On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:51 am, Gene wrote:

I don't know what you are seeing as buttons.
I don't know if the original poster might be partially sighted or, for that matter, if you may be Gene, but based just upon the entire response I've quoted part of I suspect not

One of the things that drives me crazy as a sighted instructor for screen reader learners is the fact that there are now tons of websites that present what are links under the guise of buttons as far as the visual presentation goes. I will often say to a student, "Use the 'b' shortcut to jump around the buttons until you hear . . .,was when that seems appropriate only to find that what appears to be a button in reality is not. It's getting even harder to tell now with the "flat look" being all the rage and there being no attempt to give visual 3D-ish effects to a button. Buttons appear as a non-photographic graphic rather than an imitation of a button with shading, etc., and effectively are like what used to be called hotspots (and probably still are when you're talking about different areas of a large photograph on which various areas can be activated like a button or link).

I went to that website and it is possible that there are some of those evil "looks like a button but is actually a link" situations, but I'd need a specific page to test that out.
--
Brian Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.
~ Mark Twain



Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Daveed Mandell <daveedmandell@...>
 

Yes, at the sop of each song is a play button.

Daveed

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:51 am
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites



I don't know what you are seeing as buttons. I went to an album and I found items that are clicable, each track is clicable. But I didn't see any buttons.

Does it matter if you are signed in or what you are looking at?
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Daveed Mandell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites


Hello:

I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance, on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However, when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens.. I still use JAWS infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions and/or assistance.

Regards,

Daveed Mandell










Re: NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Ann Byrne
 

But he can't use the numpad arrows, right? they are all involved with review, not cursor movement.

At 10:56 AM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
When I made my comments, I was thinking that the numpad was in the usual place. Regardless of its location, insert on the main keyboard and down arrow on the main keyboard is the best way to execute the command unless you remap it. It may be found to be easy enough that remapping isn't necessary or advantageous. the numpad arrow keys, 2 and 8, don't duplicate the main keyboard arrow keys when NVDA is running. They are used in screen review and in combination with the numpad insert for object navigation. If you use numpad insert, you are duplicating the main keyboard insert but you still must use down arrow on the main keyboard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:tsiegel@softcon.com>Travis Siegel
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:38 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Yes, but if his numpad is on the left side, then the capslock key would
be considerably closer to the numpad (and presumably the arrows) than it
would be on a normal keyboard, that's why the suggestion was made.
However, since the insert on the numpad works just fine, I don't see any
reason to modify the keyboard configuration to laptop or to use the
capslock key, just use the insert and numpad arrows to do things, it
should work just fine. The zero on the numpad doubles as an insert key,
so there should be no issues with reaching the various NVDA functions.
I don't have a keyboard with the numpad on the left, but I'd sure not mind
one, I'm (mostly) ambidexterous myself, and sometimes having to reach over
with the right hand is irritating, I use the capslock key for that reason
myself, so I can use whichever hand I'm comfortable with at the moment, so
I have both enabled myself, even though I don't use a laptop keyboard or
layout. It's all about what works for any given individual, and that's
the nice thing about many many programs, including NVDA, there's usually
more than one way to do things, which means there's likely to be something
that fits any given situation.


On Tue, 16 May 2017, Gene wrote:

But its far more convenient to use the main keyboard insert and down arrow
with one hand than caps lock a.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:23 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

If you switch to Laptop keyboard, Say all is CapsLock +A.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Ann Byrne
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 15:18
Para: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

My student is currently using a keyboard with the numpad, including
the enter key, to the left of the regular keys instead of the
right. Using capslock as the NVDA key. Is there an alternative to
NVDA+down arrow for sayAll? He can use the numpad keys, but that is
only the review cursor. Unable to use his right hand at all, he
would have to reach from capslock to the arrows to do this,
yes? He's a guy with lovely large hands ... but not quite *that large.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Ann











Re: NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

Ann Byrne
 

the numpad is on the eft side, though, so both insert+down arrow and capslock+down arrow are a real stretch. I will check out the lap top keyboard.

At 10:05 AM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
Where is the insert on the main keyboard. You can use either the insert on the numpad and down arrow or the insert on the main keyboard and down arrow. the caps lock when used as an NVDA key, duplicates all commands that are insert plus key or keys combinations. You can use the insert even if you have capslock enabled as an NVDA key. It isn't one or the other. It enables another NVDA key. It doesn't stop the others from functioning.

You said the person can't use his right hand so I tried both inserts and down arrow using my left hand. Insert on the main keyboard and down arrow is easy to do with the left hand. Numpad insert is not convenient, though I was able to do it with some annoyance by using my thumb on the numpad insert and my little finger for down arrow.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:annakb@sbcglobal.net>Ann Byrne
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:18 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with lefthanded keyboard

My student is currently using a keyboard with the numpad, including
the enter key, to the left of the regular keys instead of the
right. Using capslock as the NVDA key. Is there an alternative to
NVDA+down arrow for sayAll? He can use the numpad keys, but that is
only the review cursor. Unable to use his right hand at all, he
would have to reach from capslock to the arrows to do this,
yes? He's a guy with lovely large hands ... but not quite *that large.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Thanks,

Ann




Re: Using Kodi with nvda, and the speech addon.

 

can I get the link to the older version of kodi and to the kodi screen reader?

On 5/16/2017 6:41 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, that's what I've done over here. The developer nose about the problem, so hopefully it will get fixed.


On 5/16/2017 7:51 AM, Mike and Jenna wrote:
Hi,

Is their a way to re-enable the adons or is it better to install the older version and upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Kodi with nvda, and the speech addon.

I've done some searching, and it appears that the latest version of kodi, 17.0 disables unnone addons now, by default.

That's whay it wasn't giveing me no speech.


On 5/16/2017 3:44 AM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,

Brian: It was called xbmc before. Through a plugin, it can output to
various screen readers in Windows, Mac and Linux. It also supports
SAPI5 in Windows.


Matt: Press F12 once or twice until you hear two beeps (if Kodi does
this sound when it starts, ignore this last sentence). If it still
doesn't work when pressing the arrow keys, you may have SAPI5 as your
speech engine, and a voice which is not working as the selected voice.

Cheers,

Sukil



El 16/05/2017 a las 9:04, Brian's Mail list account escribió:
I'd be wary of anything cross platform myself. Most of it tends to be
self voicing if that is in the spec, otherwise it often does not
adhere to any standard of accessibility on any of the platforms it
runs on.

I've never tried this media software myself, didn't it used to be
called different name or did I dream that bit?
Brian

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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Turner"
<meturner2214@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 6:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using Kodi with nvda, and the speech addon.


Hi, subject pretty much says it all.

I installed kodi, and the screen reader add on.

I'm getting no speech from it.

Anyone on this list use it, or happen to no of a list for other kodi
users?












winamp apps

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Evening guys

 

May I know whether anyone of you uses winamp?

 

Do you know of the audio file crossfading feature in winamp?

 

Any app / addon that you are aware of?

 

Your help in this regard is appreciated in advance.

 

Marisane


Re: Remote Add-on Sounds

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Joseph.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Add-on Sounds

 

Hi,

To Tyler: can you ask Chris if this can be done via a configurable option? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Add-on Sounds
Importance: High

 

Hi All,

 

Is it possible to eliminate the Remote Addon sounds when connecting/disconnecting?  I ask this because the computer to which I’m connecting is a broadcasting one, and the connect/disconnect sounds play over the air.  I have no sounds selected in the Windows Control Panel but this doesn’t help.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

Jonathan

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Information Systems

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P: 336.758.5893

 

 

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Re: Remote Add-on Sounds

 

Hi,

To Tyler: can you ask Chris if this can be done via a configurable option? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Add-on Sounds
Importance: High

 

Hi All,

 

Is it possible to eliminate the Remote Addon sounds when connecting/disconnecting?  I ask this because the computer to which I’m connecting is a broadcasting one, and the connect/disconnect sounds play over the air.  I have no sounds selected in the Windows Control Panel but this doesn’t help.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

Jonathan

--

Jonathan Milam

User Tech Support Coordinator, Lead

Information Systems

Wake Forest University

PO Box 7408

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27109

P: 336.758.5893

 

 

--

Jonathan Milam

User Tech Support Coordinator, Lead

Information Systems 

The Bridge, ZSR Library

P.O. Box 7777

 Winston-Salem, NC 27109

336-758-4357

help.wfu.edu

 


Remote Add-on Sounds

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

Is it possible to eliminate the Remote Addon sounds when connecting/disconnecting?  I ask this because the computer to which I’m connecting is a broadcasting one, and the connect/disconnect sounds play over the air.  I have no sounds selected in the Windows Control Panel but this doesn’t help.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

Jonathan

--

Jonathan Milam

User Tech Support Coordinator, Lead

Information Systems

Wake Forest University

PO Box 7408

Winston-Salem, North Carolina 27109

P: 336.758.5893

 

 

--

Jonathan Milam

User Tech Support Coordinator, Lead

Information Systems 

The Bridge, ZSR Library

P.O. Box 7777

 Winston-Salem, NC 27109

336-758-4357

help.wfu.edu

 


Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Gene
 

The following applies to all browsers that use browse mode.  If a button doesn't activate with the space bar, try enter.  If neither work, try the activate command in NVDA, numpad insert and, while holding it, press numpad enter.  That's the long key at the bottom right of the numpad.  The bottom most key.
If that doesn't work, route the mouse to the object navigator's position, numpad insert and while holding it, numpad asterisk, the key immediately to the right of the numlock.  Then try left clicking using just numpad asterisk by itself.  Again, that is the key immediately to the right of the numlock.
I'm giving these suggestions but their order isn't meant to imply which should be tried in what order.
Another thing to try is to move to the button, turn browse mode off, then try space bar and enter if space doesn't work.
Turn browse mode off with insert space bar.  Turn it on again with the same command, insert space bar.  You may use either insert.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Recently, I have had buttons not be shown with Firefox 53  on the Chase and
PayPal web pages. I have switched to the Chrome browser.  You might try a
different browser.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daveed
Mandell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Hello:

I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance,
on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However,
when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens. I still use JAWS
infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play
bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or
must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions
and/or assistance.

Regards,

Daveed Mandell



 








Re: different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

Annemiek van Leendert
 

Thank you for your reply. That is a pity. I don’t think my blind students want to use two different voices. They could use two different usb-sticks, of course . In NVDA you can make different configuration profiles. What does this mean? I hoped that I could make one profile with dictionary A and one profile with dictionary B. But that is not possible


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Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> namens Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
Verzonden: dinsdag 16 mei 2017 19:38
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

Nop, having two different dictionaries to the same application, I don't
think possible...
Unless you use a different voice for each profile and you can set two
different dictionaries, one for each voice...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Annemiek van Leendert
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 18:04
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different
dictionaries

Hello,

Thank you very much. I still need some help. .Actually, I want two different
dictionaries for Word. I downloaded the add-on. What do I have to do next?
(sorry, I just started with NVDA)

Annemiek


________________________________
Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> namens Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
Verzonden: dinsdag 16 mei 2017 17:17
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different
dictionaries

Sorry! It seems the list don't accept attachments...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjt94d9uw9pbvwl/applicationsDictionary.nvda-addon?dl=1

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rui Fontes
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 16:12
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different
dictionaries

If each profile is for a different application, you can use this addon.

Regards,

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Annemiek van Leendert
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 14:49
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

I have two questions

First question: I have a version of NVDA on a USB-stick and I want to use
two configuration profiles. For example profile A with dictionary A (in
synthetic speech) and profile B with dictionary B (in synthetic speech).
Dictionary A and B are very different. For example, when working in
configuration profile A I want "US" to be pronounced as "United States".
When working in profile B I want "US" to be pronounced as "US". Is that
possible? How?

Question 2: In the map userconf is a map SpeechDicts. In this map is a file
"default". Is it possible to change the dictionary directly in this file? I
tried it, but it did not work.

I hope that someone can help me.

Best regards,

Annemiek




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Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

 

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:51 am, Gene wrote:
I don't know what you are seeing as buttons.

I don't know if the original poster might be partially sighted or, for that matter, if you may be Gene, but based just upon the entire response I've quoted part of I suspect not

One of the things that drives me crazy as a sighted instructor for screen reader learners is the fact that there are now tons of websites that present what are links under the guise of buttons as far as the visual presentation goes.  I will often say to a student, "Use the 'b' shortcut to jump around the buttons until you hear . . .," when that seems appropriate only to find that what appears to be a button in reality is not.   It's getting even harder to tell now with the "flat look" being all the rage and there being no attempt to give visual 3D-ish effects to a button.  Buttons appear as a non-photographic graphic rather than an imitation of a button with shading, etc., and effectively are like what used to be called hotspots (and probably still are when you're talking about different areas of a large photograph on which various areas can be activated like a button or link).

I went to that website and it is possible that there are some of those evil "looks like a button but is actually a link" situations, but I'd need a specific page to test that out.
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Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Recently, I have had buttons not be shown with Firefox 53 on the Chase and
PayPal web pages. I have switched to the Chrome browser. You might try a
different browser.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daveed
Mandell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Hello:

I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance,
on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However,
when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens. I still use JAWS
infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play
bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or
must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions
and/or assistance.

Regards,

Daveed Mandell


Re: Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Gene
 

I don't know what you are seeing as buttons.  I went to an album and I found items that are clicable, each track is clicable.  But I didn't see any buttons.
 
Does it matter if you are signed in or what you are looking at?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:24 AM
Subject: [nvda] Buttons Not Working On Some Websites

Hello:

I notice that on some websites buttons don't work with NVDA. For instance, on the music website bandcamp.com, one can play songs and albums. However, when I prebbs a play butson with NVDA nothing happens. I still use JAWS infrequently, and when I recently tried JAWS with bandcamp.comeathe play bustons worked just fine. Is this a bug in NVDA that should be reporsed, or must I change any specific settings? Thanks so much for any suggestions and/or assistance.

Regards,

Daveed Mandell



 





Re: different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

Rui Fontes
 

Nop, having two different dictionaries to the same application, I don't think possible...
Unless you use a different voice for each profile and you can set two different dictionaries, one for each voice...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Annemiek van Leendert
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 18:04
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

Hello,

Thank you very much. I still need some help. .Actually, I want two different dictionaries for Word. I downloaded the add-on. What do I have to do next? (sorry, I just started with NVDA)

Annemiek


________________________________
Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> namens Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
Verzonden: dinsdag 16 mei 2017 17:17
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

Sorry! It seems the list don't accept attachments...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjt94d9uw9pbvwl/applicationsDictionary.nvda-addon?dl=1

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rui Fontes
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 16:12
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different
dictionaries

If each profile is for a different application, you can use this addon.

Regards,

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Annemiek van Leendert
Data: 16 de maio de 2017 14:49
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] different configuration profiles and different dictionaries

I have two questions

First question: I have a version of NVDA on a USB-stick and I want to use
two configuration profiles. For example profile A with dictionary A (in
synthetic speech) and profile B with dictionary B (in synthetic speech).
Dictionary A and B are very different. For example, when working in
configuration profile A I want "US" to be pronounced as "United States".
When working in profile B I want "US" to be pronounced as "US". Is that
possible? How?

Question 2: In the map userconf is a map SpeechDicts. In this map is a file
"default". Is it possible to change the dictionary directly in this file? I
tried it, but it did not work.

I hope that someone can help me.

Best regards,

Annemiek




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