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Re: Scilence at NVDA con

Lanie Molinar
 

You can find a link that will do that if you go to nvdacon.org and click the link that says how to join us. If you scroll down that page, you'll find it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 7:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scilence at NVDA con

is there a direct file that I could run that would put in all the configurtation info in there?


On 5/19/2017 3:50 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
There was an open forum that started about four hours ago and ended about two hours ago, now there is a lightning talk going on so maybe if you try joining now you can hear it
Luke

On 19 May 2017, at 22:54, Tea Turković <tturkovi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've been logging in since 8 PM in my timezone at the NVDA con teamtalk server, but only few messages arrived in last 4 hours.
Any info
Re: epub format

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


That's the add on I use to read e-pub books.


Tony


On 5/19/2017 11:33 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello there,


I'm a staunch epub reader, so you got to the right place.


You can definitely read epub ebooks with Adobe Digital Editions, which is free, and can be downloaded from Adobe's website (or from my Dropbox, which is probaly easier - I'll pass the link at the end of this message).


Firefox has an add-on. I think it's called epub reader, but I don't know whetehr it was updated for more recent Windows versions. I haven't used it for years.


If you want an excellent, but not free app, I'd advise you to investigate Qread at the following link:


https://q-continuum.net/qread/


I also read epub ebooks on my android smartphone. There are a number of more or less accessible apps for that, which I'll be happy to discuss with you off-list, if you're interested.


Here's the link to downloade Adobe Digital Editions from my Dropbox. Unfortunately I only have version 3.0, but it's quite enough. If you decide to install this version, it'll prompt you to upgrade later.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bng1kgkxawt4raq/ADE_3.0_Installer.exe?dl=0


hth,

Ollie

ps: Feel free to contact me also off-list, if you need any further help.


mallard@...





Il 19/05/2017 16:29, Marisane Moruthanyana ha scritto:

Afternoon list subscribers

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat accessible.

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to elaborate further about the format?

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader like jaws or nvda?

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)








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Re: epub format

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


If you have a web browser such as Mozilla Firefox you can read e pub books. Hope this helps.


Tony


 


On 5/19/2017 10:29 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

Afternoon list subscribers

 

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

 

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat accessible.

 

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to elaborate further about the format?

 

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

 

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader like jaws or nvda?

 

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

 

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

 

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

 

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)



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Re: epub format

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

As I've posted before (in several places) non-drm epub books are simply html files with other files included to make navigating the books easier.  You can simply rename the epub to .zip, extract it, and read it with the web browser of your choice, no special software required.

Doing it this way won't give you the navigation features, (table of contents, previous/next, and so on), but it's a quick and simple way to read the books without having to install extra software for the job.



On 5/19/2017 10:29 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

Afternoon list subscribers

 

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

 

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat accessible.

 

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to elaborate further about the format?

 

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

 

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader like jaws or nvda?

 

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

 

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

 

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

 

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)



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Re: Scilence at NVDA con

The Wolf
 

is there a direct file that I could run that would put in all the configurtation info in there?

On 5/19/2017 3:50 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
There was an open forum that started about four hours ago and ended about two hours ago, now there is a lightning talk going on so maybe if you try joining now you can hear it
Luke

On 19 May 2017, at 22:54, Tea Turković <tturkovi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've been logging in since 8 PM in my timezone at the NVDA con teamtalk server, but only few messages arrived in last 4 hours.
Any info
Re: Scilence at NVDA con

Luke Scholey <lukescholey@...>
 

There was an open forum that started about four hours ago and ended about two hours ago, now there is a lightning talk going on so maybe if you try joining now you can hear it
Luke

On 19 May 2017, at 22:54, Tea Turković <tturkovi@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, I've been logging in since 8 PM in my timezone at the NVDA con teamtalk server, but only few messages arrived in last 4 hours.
Any info


Scilence at NVDA con

Tea Turković
 

Hi, I've been logging in since 8 PM in my timezone at the NVDA con teamtalk server, but only few messages arrived in last 4 hours.
Any info
Re: [Or20] Price of Orbit

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


So the price is the official price.


Are they about to put it on the shelves now?


Gene nz



On 20/05/2017 7:34 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [Or20] Price of Orbit
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 13:26:29 -0400
From: Timothy Wynn <twynn92@...>
Reply-To: or20@...
To: or20@...


Yes. Here's the actual tweet:


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -

Re: working with tables in microsoft word

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Not sure if this will work in word but know it works in excel.  What is written is from Quenton.


below is the message.


There isn't a direct command, but a workaround is:
1. Press SHIFT+SPACEBAR to select the row
2. Press control+c to copy it to the clipboard
3. Press NVDA+c to read the clipboard
This will read the whole row as one block of text.  Note that it will overwrite anything you already had on the clipboard.  It also reads the values of cells, not formulas.  If you want formulas read, press control+` (control+grav) to toggle between showing values and formulas before copying the row.
Similarly, if you want to read the column, press control+spacebar instead of shift+spacebar at step 1.


Gene nz



On 19/05/2017 9:42 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

Is there a way to read the entire row, or column with NVDA?

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -

Re: Test Message

David Moore
 

Good for you, Tom,

The more tools you have, the better!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Test Message

 

Thanks, David!

 

Just trying to have more tools in my toolbox, as it were!  (smile)

 

Tom Behler

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 12:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Test Message

 

Hi Tom,

Great to see you here!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Test Message

 

Thanks, Joseph, and good to see you here!

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Test Message

 

Hi professor,

Yes it did.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Test Message

 

Just checking to be sure my subscription went through.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 
Re: Other NVDA Voices?

Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
 

Thanks for these insights, Rui.

I will definitely take them into consideration.

Tom Behler

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?

Hello!

You also have:

Acapela for NVDA:
www.acapela-nvda.com

Eloquence for Windows
http://tiflotecnia.net/index_eloq.htm

Vocalizer for NVDA
www.vocalizer-nvda.com

Based in my experience, Eloquence for NVDA in some computers presents a horrible sound!

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Tom Behler
Data: 19 de maio de 2017 15:59
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?



Hello, everyone.



I have just joined the NVDA e-mail list, and am getting introduced to NVDA.



Actually, I use Jaws as my main screen reader, and simply want to have NVDA
on board as a back up screen reader should Jaws fail, or be unusuable for
certain applications.



Anyway, I have been told that alternative voices are available for NVDA. …
Specifically, I have been told that the vocalizer female voice (similar to
the one the iPhone uses), and Eloquence are available.



Can someone tell me where to find these voices?



Also, are they free, or must they be purchased?



Thanks for any info anyone can provide.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
Re: Other NVDA Voices?

Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
 

Jonathan:

 

Thanks for the codefactory info about the vocalizer and eloquence voices.

 

I checked on the web page you sent, and it says the price for the addd-on is 59 euros.

 

Siri tells me that this converts to $66.10.

 

So, what I now have to decide is whether the purchase would be worthwhile for me.

 

As of now, my intent is still to use NVDA as a backup, since my current Jaws Sma covers me through Jaws 20, but there is always room to re-think this.

 

Thanks very much for the help.

 

Tom Behler

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?

 

Hi Tom,

 

I was a JAWS user as well before installing  NVDA a few months ago, and had all intentions of using it as a back-up.  However, I quickly adopted it as my primary screen reader and hardly ever use JAWS now.

 

Codefactory has a page where you can purchase a Vocalizer and Elloquence addon.

http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

 

 

Jonathan

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have just joined the NVDA e-mail list, and am getting introduced to NVDA.

 

Actually, I use Jaws as my main screen reader, and simply want to have NVDA on board as a back up screen reader should Jaws fail, or be unusuable for certain applications.

 

Anyway, I have been told that alternative voices are available for NVDA. … Specifically, I have been told that the vocalizer female voice (similar to the one the iPhone uses), and Eloquence are available.

 

Can someone tell me where to find these voices?

 

Also, are they free, or must they be purchased?

 

Thanks for any info anyone can provide.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 
Re: [Or20] Price of Orbit

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [Or20] Price of Orbit
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 13:26:29 -0400
From: Timothy Wynn <twynn92@...>
Reply-To: or20@...
To: or20@...


Yes. Here's the actual tweet:
Re: epub format

john s
 

I believe that Balabolka can also read epub files.


At 10:29 AM 5/19/2017, you wrote:
Afternoon list subscribers
 
May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.
 
I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat accessible.
 
May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to elaborate further about the format?
 
I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.
 
Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader like jaws or nvda?
 
Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?
 
What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?
 
Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.
 
With respect
Marisane (University of Limpopo)

                 John
Re: epub format

Cleto Pescia
 

Hello Marisane,

You can use my program EPUBTEXT to export the content of an EPUB document to a plain text file, provided the EPUB file is not DRM protected.
EPUBTEXT can be downloaded from:
https://www.eurisco.com/download/epubtext

Regards,
Cleto
Re: Other NVDA Voices?

Gene
 

If you use the add on for Eloquence, it is poor quality because it has a lot of artifacts. 
 
Code factory has a SAPI5 version of Eloquence that works well.  Both are available as demos so you can try them.  The add on has eloquence and another set of voices.  I'm not sure if those are the other ones you asked about.  I assume you can get the other voices separately but I don't use them and I haven't paid much attention to them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?

Hi Tom,

 

I was a JAWS user as well before installing  NVDA a few months ago, and had all intentions of using it as a back-up.  However, I quickly adopted it as my primary screen reader and hardly ever use JAWS now.

 

Codefactory has a page where you can purchase a Vocalizer and Elloquence addon.

http://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

 

 

Jonathan

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?

 

Hello, everyone.

 

I have just joined the NVDA e-mail list, and am getting introduced to NVDA.

 

Actually, I use Jaws as my main screen reader, and simply want to have NVDA on board as a back up screen reader should Jaws fail, or be unusuable for certain applications.

 

Anyway, I have been told that alternative voices are available for NVDA. … Specifically, I have been told that the vocalizer female voice (similar to the one the iPhone uses), and Eloquence are available.

 

Can someone tell me where to find these voices?

 

Also, are they free, or must they be purchased?

 

Thanks for any info anyone can provide.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 
Re: epub format

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello Erik,


Will do. I know there's another one coming in a few days, which I've alpha tested last week, and works quite well in my opinion.


Let's keep in touch on this subject, and I hope I can be of help.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 19/05/2017 17:41, erik burggraaf ha scritto:
Hi there Ollie,

This is something I may need for school in september, so if you could take a look at inclusive android and post any android epub readers that you don't find, especially the ones that work, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com


On May 19, 2017 11:34:27 AM "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Hello there,


I'm a staunch epub reader, so you got to the right place.


You can definitely read epub ebooks with Adobe Digital Editions, which
is free, and can be downloaded from Adobe's website (or from my Dropbox,
which is probaly easier - I'll pass the link at the end of this message).


Firefox has an add-on. I think it's called epub reader, but I don't know
whetehr it was updated for more recent Windows versions. I haven't used
it for years.


If you want an excellent, but not free app, I'd advise you to
investigate Qread at the following link:


https://q-continuum.net/qread/


I also read epub ebooks on my android smartphone. There are a number of
more or less accessible apps for that, which I'll be happy to discuss
with you off-list, if you're interested.


Here's the link to downloade Adobe Digital Editions from my Dropbox.
Unfortunately I only have version 3.0, but it's quite enough. If you
decide to install this version, it'll prompt you to upgrade later.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bng1kgkxawt4raq/ADE_3.0_Installer.exe?dl=0


hth,

Ollie

ps: Feel free to contact me also off-list, if you need any further help.


mallard@kimabe.eu





Il 19/05/2017 16:29, Marisane Moruthanyana ha scritto:

Afternoon list subscribers

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat
accessible.

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to
elaborate further about the format?

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only
read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they
call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader
like jaws or nvda?

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)
Re: Other NVDA Voices?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

You also have:

Acapela for NVDA:
www.acapela-nvda.com

Eloquence for Windows
http://tiflotecnia.net/index_eloq.htm

Vocalizer for NVDA
www.vocalizer-nvda.com

Based in my experience, Eloquence for NVDA in some computers presents a horrible sound!

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Tom Behler
Data: 19 de maio de 2017 15:59
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Other NVDA Voices?



Hello, everyone.



I have just joined the NVDA e-mail list, and am getting introduced to NVDA.



Actually, I use Jaws as my main screen reader, and simply want to have NVDA on board as a back up screen reader should Jaws fail, or be unusuable for certain applications.



Anyway, I have been told that alternative voices are available for NVDA. … Specifically, I have been told that the vocalizer female voice (similar to the one the iPhone uses), and Eloquence are available.



Can someone tell me where to find these voices?



Also, are they free, or must they be purchased?



Thanks for any info anyone can provide.



Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan
Re: epub format

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi there Ollie,

This is something I may need for school in september, so if you could take a look at inclusive android and post any android epub readers that you don't find, especially the ones that work, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On May 19, 2017 11:34:27 AM "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Hello there,


I'm a staunch epub reader, so you got to the right place.


You can definitely read epub ebooks with Adobe Digital Editions, which
is free, and can be downloaded from Adobe's website (or from my Dropbox,
which is probaly easier - I'll pass the link at the end of this message).


Firefox has an add-on. I think it's called epub reader, but I don't know
whetehr it was updated for more recent Windows versions. I haven't used
it for years.


If you want an excellent, but not free app, I'd advise you to
investigate Qread at the following link:


https://q-continuum.net/qread/


I also read epub ebooks on my android smartphone. There are a number of
more or less accessible apps for that, which I'll be happy to discuss
with you off-list, if you're interested.


Here's the link to downloade Adobe Digital Editions from my Dropbox.
Unfortunately I only have version 3.0, but it's quite enough. If you
decide to install this version, it'll prompt you to upgrade later.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/bng1kgkxawt4raq/ADE_3.0_Installer.exe?dl=0


hth,

Ollie

ps: Feel free to contact me also off-list, if you need any further help.


mallard@kimabe.eu





Il 19/05/2017 16:29, Marisane Moruthanyana ha scritto:

Afternoon list subscribers

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat
accessible.

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to
elaborate further about the format?

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only
read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they
call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader
like jaws or nvda?

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)
Re: epub format

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello Marisane and all,

On a computer I use the addon ePub Reader for Firefox, it works fine.

http://www.epubread.com/

Best

Sylvie

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Le 19/05/2017 à 16:29, Marisane Moruthanyana a écrit :

Afternoon list subscribers

 

May I know whether there’s a way in which to read epub material.

 

I read a little about the format and have heard that it is somewhat accessible.

 

May I ask anyone of you who ever read an epub-formatted book to elaborate further about the format?

 

I hear people who read books in that format saying that one can only read epub books through google chrome, because google has what they call readium reader and that reader can read the books in the format.

 

Are you aware of that and how accessible is that with a screen reader like jaws or nvda?

 

Does it mean that internet/firefox browser cannot handle epub material?

 

What other application does one use to read books in the epub format?

 

Your assistance in this regard is appreciated in advance.

 

With respect

Marisane (University of Limpopo)
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