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Re: Automatic DownLoading and Installation of NVDA updates and AddOns

Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi james are you talking about a service model like windows 10 is doing where it autimatically downloads it and installs it without telling it too? That would slund like a good idea. But I don’t think that NVaccess would have the server for that.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Automatic DownLoading and Installation of NVDA updates and AddOns

 

Hello!

 

I would like to see NVDA have an automatic downloading and installing of each latest update while NVDA is running and it would be good if all of the latest new AddOns would be gathered up or collected in one folder and also automatically downloaded and installed once every three months, which means us amatures would be able to get the latest updates and AddOns automatically and would not miss out on important updates and AddOns; I often don’t know which updates and/or AddOns to download and install, sometimes missing them altogether, so this practice would help me immensely in keeping up to date with the development of NVDA, as it strives to keep pace with Windows 10 development; maybe this is a bit unrealistic but it could work and benefit all of us NVDA users; in order to facilitate financial donations, NVDA users could subscribe to email notifications with financial request adds in the emails and a checkbox could be added somewhere in NVDA to turn this feature on or off and give people automatic donations in whichever amount they wish; I know I am acting lazy here but many new NVDA users could be helped by knowing he or she has the most current product available; and I think you guys for listening to me on this matter.

 

 

Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, President
Jardata Corporation


Vocalizer Expressive voices with NVDA

Don H
 

I have a trial copy of the Vocalizer Expressive voices add on from Code Factory. I have the US English Tom installed Under the NVDA preferences speech settings I have both say caps and beep for caps unchecked however it still says cap when using a capital letter. Is there another place to change these settings?
Thanks


MS Creator Mail Command

Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

I’m using the Microsoft Creator Mail program and NVDA 2017.2. Used to be able to press F6 to move from column to column (column listing email accounts, folderts, etc to column listing messages to column with text of selected message). That command is no longer working for me. Any ideas or alternate commands to move from section to section?

 


Reading the Windows Explorer Window

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

In 2017.2, and even in earlier versions of NVDA, I am having an issue where NVDA will not speak the contents of windows explorer windows whenever I arrow up and down through listviews.  Is anyone else seeing this?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 


Re: editing the wiki?

 

Hi,
To do this, you can use your GitHub account.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Kingett
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] editing the wiki?

Who can I contact to edit, or ask to edit, the NVDA wiki or post a pending
item?


editing the wiki?

 

Who can I contact to edit, or ask to edit, the NVDA wiki or post a pending item?


Re: How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Tom

NVDA will check for updates automatically if the appropriate setting is made.  Press NVDA key Control g to open the NVDA General settings menu, tab down the displayed dialog box until you find the check box labelled ‘Automatically check for updates to NVDA’, ensure it is checked then tab to OK and press enter.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: 30 May 2017 15:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

I now have the update to version 2017.2.

 

Is there any way to get the updates automatically, or must they be gotten manually as they come out?

 

Thanks to all for the help.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

In the NVDA menu, hit h for help, then c for check for updates.

 

On 5/30/2017 10:27 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

Sylvi:

 

I just checked, and I still have version 2017.1.

 

I’m not sure why my NVDA has not automatically updated to 2017.2, but I can certainly use 2017.1 for now.

 

If anyone knows how I can get NVDA to automatically update, or why it is not updating on its own, I’d appreciate that information.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,
Yesterday I used a computer with the 2017.1 version of NVDA and it offered me to update to the 2017.2 that was just released.
So if you don't have the latest version, it should propose you to update.
To check which version of NVDA you have,
open the NVDA menu with nvda+n,
choose help (with the up arrow keys) or type h
choose about with up arrow or type a.
You will hear the content of the displayed dialog alert in typing nvda+b.
This should be nvda 2017.2
I hope this helps!
Best
Sylvie
Le 30/05/2017 à 16:09, Tom Behler a écrit :

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m very new to NVDA, having just installed the program and joined this list a week or so ago.

 

I understand there is a new NVDA update, but I’m not sure how to know what version of NVDA I currently have, and how to get the latest update.

 

Or, does NVDA update itself automatically?

 

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Tutorial on transitioning from Window-Eyes to NVDA by Gene Asner is now up on the NVDA Community wiki

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

First, thanks goes to Gene Asner for putting together a tutorial for those transitioning from Window-Eyes to NVDA. I’ll consider this one of the user side contributions to our ongoing Project Contact Lenses, a community initiative to embrace users, developers and scripters of other screen readers.

 

I’m delighted to announce the wikified version of Gene’s tutorial is now available for you to read at our NVDA Community wiki pages. The link is:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA

 

Hope this helps (and please do spread the word).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: soft-voice and objPad comments

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I agree this would be helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

can you do a tutorial on

how to use objPad?

On 5/30/2017 7:20 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its
so awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws
touch cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I
really really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I
may have found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us
to use. For personal use only, not commercial use... It is called
soft-voice and it sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak.
I have one or two more things to check out with the soft-voice tts
makers but once I do and everything is go then I'll let all of you
know the final verdict on soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it
sounds a bit like eloquence but it only supports english and spanish
languages. and that it has a bunch of interesting novelty voices along
with the normal voices and its very small and fast and responsive. I
will not post it here though until I'm certain its fine with the authors.





Re: soft-voice and objPad comments

 

can you do a tutorial on

how to use objPad?

On 5/30/2017 7:20 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm certain its fine with the authors.




Re: soft-voice and objPad comments

Gene
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

Where do you get the object pad add on?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate.  The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child.  You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it.  But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation.  the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed. 

 

It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something. 

 

You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself.  But my preference is to see how things are organized.  You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA.  It appears to me that that isn't true.  It just does it differently. 

 

Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.




Re: soft-voice and objPad comments

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Where do you get the object pad add on?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate.  The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child.  You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it.  But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation.  the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed. 

 

It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something. 

 

You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself.  But my preference is to see how things are organized.  You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA.  It appears to me that that isn't true.  It just does it differently. 

 

Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.




Re: How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

Danny D. Mendoza <run210nis@...>
 

Good morning!
Running the latest update and using Quicken. Installed for the very 1st time and all things were just awesome. Menus and Sub Menus were narrated. After a couple of days. It is no longer narrating the Sub Menus. Which is needed using Quicken. Quicken is only use and really need the Sub Menus to be able to hear to what or where I am.  Does anyone has this problem. If so, how did you solved this important part of using Quicken.
 
Thank you,
Danny
 

From: Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update
 

Check for automatic updates is indeed checked.

 

So, hopefully, I’m now set.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,

Do what the others members of the list suggest.

For next update, if you want NVDA to update automatically, go to preferences, general, and check the checkox for automatically cheking updates.

Good luck!

Sylvie

Le 30/05/2017 à 16:27, Tom Behler a écrit :

Sylvi:

 

I just checked, and I still have version 2017.1.

 

I’m not sure why my NVDA has not automatically updated to 2017.2, but I can certainly use 2017.1 for now.

 

If anyone knows how I can get NVDA to automatically update, or why it is not updating on its own, I’d appreciate that information.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,
Yesterday I used a computer with the 2017.1 version of NVDA and it offered me to update to the 2017.2 that was just released.
So if you don't have the latest version, it should propose you to update.
To check which version of NVDA you have,
open the NVDA menu with nvda+n,
choose help (with the up arrow keys) or type h
choose about with up arrow or type a.
You will hear the content of the displayed dialog alert in typing nvda+b.
This should be nvda 2017.2
I hope this helps!
Best
Sylvie
Le 30/05/2017 à 16:09, Tom Behler a écrit :

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m very new to NVDA, having just installed the program and joined this list a week or so ago.

 

I understand there is a new NVDA update, but I’m not sure how to know what version of NVDA I currently have, and how to get the latest update.

 

Or, does NVDA update itself automatically?

 

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
 

Check for automatic updates is indeed checked.

 

So, hopefully, I’m now set.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,

Do what the others members of the list suggest.

For next update, if you want NVDA to update automatically, go to preferences, general, and check the checkox for automatically cheking updates.

Good luck!

Sylvie

Le 30/05/2017 à 16:27, Tom Behler a écrit :

Sylvi:

 

I just checked, and I still have version 2017.1.

 

I’m not sure why my NVDA has not automatically updated to 2017.2, but I can certainly use 2017.1 for now.

 

If anyone knows how I can get NVDA to automatically update, or why it is not updating on its own, I’d appreciate that information.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,
Yesterday I used a computer with the 2017.1 version of NVDA and it offered me to update to the 2017.2 that was just released.
So if you don't have the latest version, it should propose you to update.
To check which version of NVDA you have,
open the NVDA menu with nvda+n,
choose help (with the up arrow keys) or type h
choose about with up arrow or type a.
You will hear the content of the displayed dialog alert in typing nvda+b.
This should be nvda 2017.2
I hope this helps!
Best
Sylvie
Le 30/05/2017 à 16:09, Tom Behler a écrit :

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m very new to NVDA, having just installed the program and joined this list a week or so ago.

 

I understand there is a new NVDA update, but I’m not sure how to know what version of NVDA I currently have, and how to get the latest update.

 

Or, does NVDA update itself automatically?

 

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

 


Re: How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hi professor,

One can configure NVDA to check for updates automatically by going to NVDA menu/Preferences/General Settings. If this is checked, NVDA will check for updates every day and will notify you if an update is available.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

So, are you saying this has to be done manually, and that the updates don’t occur automatically without you actually checking?

 

Just trying to clarify.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ethan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,

 

If you press NVDA+N, followed by H, followed bye C, NVDA will automatically check if there is a new update available.

 

Let me know if I can help more,

Ethan


Sent from my iPhone


On May 30, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m very new to NVDA, having just installed the program and joined this list a week or so ago.

 

I understand there is a new NVDA update, but I’m not sure how to know what version of NVDA I currently have, and how to get the latest update.

 

Or, does NVDA update itself automatically?

 

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Thank you!!!!
Sally 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Expect a huge announcement today regarding a transition guide.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


 



Re: How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

Tom Behler <tombehler@...>
 

So, are you saying this has to be done manually, and that the updates don’t occur automatically without you actually checking?

 

Just trying to clarify.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ethan
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How To Know If You Have The Latest NVDA Update

 

Hello Tom,

 

If you press NVDA+N, followed by H, followed bye C, NVDA will automatically check if there is a new update available.

 

Let me know if I can help more,

Ethan


Sent from my iPhone


On May 30, 2017, at 10:09 AM, Tom Behler <tombehler@...> wrote:

Hello, everyone.

 

I’m very new to NVDA, having just installed the program and joined this list a week or so ago.

 

I understand there is a new NVDA update, but I’m not sure how to know what version of NVDA I currently have, and how to get the latest update.

 

Or, does NVDA update itself automatically?

 

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi,

Expect a huge announcement today regarding a transition guide.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


 


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello all

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

Thank you again for this!
Sally 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

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Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
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Re: copy and paste

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello Don,

I've been using Window-eyes for over 15 years and am not looking forward to greater JAWS dominion. Nice to see another GWMicro-er here.  

Thank you to those who have offered support and sympathy on this thread! 

It is reassuring   to know that hotkeys can be rewritten in NVDA as that was definitely one of my favorite features in window-eyes. 

Cheers,
Saly 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:05 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes I think its really important there are more than one option, as we all learn differently. I do have an uphil struggle with people who are using Guide for a while but outgrow it. Yes it was simple but it had nothing in common with windows which makes attempting to teach anyone how to use a real screenreader doubly hard in my view. I used to use
Dolphin Supernova, which works well, but to me it was a bit slow compared to nvda at times, plus of course you have to pay for updates and are stuck with the cost, albeit not such a rip of price as Jaws has been.
What I do now with nvda is give a largish donation each new version but I did a small interim one this time as the  better way that select all and some other things got fixed and worked this time in snapshots.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] copy and paste


Wow! when my room mate and I thought we were forced off the JFW beta testing team. My room mate went and downloaded a demo of windoweyes.  We lasted with it for only 2 hours!  Then we ran back home to JFW!  My room mate asked a friend who had a free version of windoweyes and he told us to uninstall it at the control panel.  We could have got used to it. But we had no support using it.  We tested Jaws 5.0   We were going to leave the team anyway! I was on the verge of getting a new computer of my own. that was when I got my first xp box!  I felt I wanted it because I was not learning how to use the computer properly.  I have a slight learning disability and I have to learn things hands on!  I wished I had tried using windoweyes.  Someone said it looks a lot like windows.  NVDA was easy as well. With my own computer. I can learn at my own pace.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: May-29-17 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] copy and paste

I am one of those Window Eyes long time users that is now being forced to learn a new screen reader.  I knew this was coming so downloaded and started learning how to use NVDA several weeks ago.  I did take the offer for a free copy of Jaws and am also trying to learn it as well.
I compare ease of use between NVDA and Jaws and in many cases find NVDA easier to use.
One function I find better with NVDA is the ability and accuracy of selecting text in a Word document or Web page with the NVDA key F9 and Nvda key F10.
One area where I think Window eyes had advantages over NVDA and Jaws was the ability to label keys and change hot keys to your likeing.