Hi gene

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

Best regards

Anthony  

hi

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

Gene nz

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 June 2017 13:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] first contact

Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in
the document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo.
The name should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to
end. I don't use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene

Hi.

Read to end would be more ideal. However, I think this is based on the
tradition of the screen reader.

On 6/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the
document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo. The name
should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end. I don't
use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene

Hi All,



Nvdaremote.com is down and has been all day. Is there a status on this
issue?



Thanks,

Jonathan



Jonathan



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Hi,

Does the notification repitition problem occur with JAWS?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Yikes!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 10:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Hi,

It turns out this isn’t a simple matter of releasing a new version: the needed change breaks DictationBridge add-on, specifically for people using Dragon Vocabulary Editor.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

 

Amen!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Andre Fisher

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

 

As this issue impacts many users, among other performance issues, I
think that an NVDA 2017.2.1 release is warranted.

On 6/6/17, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...> wrote:
> For me, at least, the creators update has seemed to fix the problem. It had
> done that for me before I upgraded, but now it doesn’t seem to repeat
> notifications as it had done before. I’ll monitor.
>
> Ben
>
> From: Rob
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 18:00
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves
>
> Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>> Is this on Creators Update only or on other builds?
>
> This is creator update for me, just installed two days ago.
> Version 1703 (OS Build 15063.332)
>
>
>
>
>

Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the
document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo. The name
should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end. I don't
use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:

It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹

.

I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:

It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹

.

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

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Many thanks david for your explanation, and your help.

I really appreciated.

Best regards

Anthony  

Hi,

To read current line, press either numpad 8 on a desktop, or press NVDA+Shift+period on a laptop.

For speaking lines, make sure you have punctuation level set to some.

Have a great one!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hello all

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

Thanks in advance

Anthony     

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

Cheers,

Ed

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

Hi,

To read current line, press either numpad 8 on a desktop, or press NVDA+Shift+period on a laptop.

For speaking lines, make sure you have punctuation level set to some.

Have a great one!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hello all

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

Thanks in advance

Anthony     

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

Cheers,

Ed

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

hi

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

Gene nz

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹

Hello all

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

Thanks in advance

Anthony     

Hi Devin,

Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

Cheers,

Ed

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.