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Re: query

anthony borg
 

Hi gene

 

Yes my laptop has a numpad, the reason why I’m asking so many questions is because I just started to learn how to use the NVDA.

 

And I’m pretty sure that all of you have more experience than I have.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 08 June 2017 11:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

NVDA down arrow is read to end.  Does the laptop have a numpad?  The only reason to use the laptop layout is if the laptop doesn't have a numpad. 

 

If it were me, I'd probably buy a USB numpad and use the desktop layout.  I don't like laptop layouts in any screen-reader. 

 

I don't know where or how your are looking at commands but you appear to somehow be looking at them incorrectly.  Are you using the quick key reference in help>  In that reference, commands are given as desktop layout, then on the next line laptop, then touch gesture, if any. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

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Re: Changing the name of say all command

anthony borg
 

Ok, thanks gene.

 

Regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 08 June 2017 12:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing the name of say all command

 

Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.  That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a document.  It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the document.  Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo.  The name should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end.  I don't use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.  If not, speak to end would be best. 

 

Gene


Re: first contact

anthony borg
 

Hi quentin

 

Many thanks for the useful info you are sending me, I really appreciated.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 June 2017 13:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] first contact

 

Hi Anthony,

 

In the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?  if a command is listed just with one keystroke (eg NVDA+f12 to read the time), then the keystroke applies to both laptop and desktop keyboard layout.  Most commands are presented in tables with the command name, then the desktop keystroke, then the laptop keystroke, then the touch gesture (not all commands have touch gestures at least) and finally a description of the command.

 

In the training material available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ the desktop command is given, followed by the laptop command in parenthesis (brackets), for instance: To read the current line, press NVDA+up arrow (Laptop: NVDA+l)

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:28 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi quentin

 

Many thanks for your encouragement and your support to help me,

 

I’m using a laptop and I don’t know if the all commands that we find in the guide applies to both, laptops and desktop computers.

 

Thanks once again

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 June 2017 01:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] first contact

 

Hi Anthony,

 

Welcome to the group!  Everyone here is really friendly and helpful.  Do feel free to ask any questions you have as you come across them!

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:36 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hello all

 

I just started to use NVDA and I would like to start using the list group which I’m sure it can be of a great help for me.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony borg   



 

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Re: Changing the name of say all command

anthony borg
 

Hi gene what is the command to speak to end? Or read to end?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: 08 June 2017 14:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing the name of say all command

Hi.

Read to end would be more ideal. However, I think this is based on the tradition of the screen reader.

On 6/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in
the document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo.
The name should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to
end. I don't use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene


Re: Changing the name of say all command

Brian's Mail list account
 

I've also heard it called auto read and many other things. I suppose it all depends on how you see it really.


Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing the name of say all command


Hi.

Read to end would be more ideal. However, I think this is based on the
tradition of the screen reader.

On 6/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the
document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo. The name
should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end. I don't
use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene


Re: Nvdaremote.com is down

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Brian. It is back up again but I do depend on it for work
obligations. One of the main reasons I switched to NVDA.

Joanthan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvdaremote.com is down

What is needed is a back up and some way to contact the admins. If you are
relying on this to work or something its going to be a pain.
Not used it for ages myself.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Nvdaremote.com is down


Hi All,



Nvdaremote.com is down and has been all day. Is there a status on this
issue?



Thanks,

Jonathan



Jonathan



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Re: Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

matthew dyer
 

No it doesn't.  Only in NVDA.  I am runing a master version whare thkis happens.


Matthew




On 06/07/17 20:08, Jessica D wrote:
Hi,
Does the notification repitition problem occur with JAWS?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Yikes!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Hi,

It turns out this isn’t a simple matter of releasing a new version: the needed change breaks DictationBridge add-on, specifically for people using Dragon Vocabulary Editor.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

 

Amen!

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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Andre Fisher

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

 

As this issue impacts many users, among other performance issues, I
think that an NVDA 2017.2.1 release is warranted.

On 6/6/17, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...> wrote:
> For me, at least, the creators update has seemed to fix the problem. It had
> done that for me before I upgraded, but now it doesn’t seem to repeat
> notifications as it had done before. I’ll monitor.
>
> Ben
>
> From: Rob
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 18:00
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves
>
> Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>> Is this on Creators Update only or on other builds?
>
> This is creator update for me, just installed two days ago.
> Version 1703 (OS Build 15063.332)
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Changing the name of say all command

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Read to end would be more ideal. However, I think this is based on the
tradition of the screen reader.

On 6/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
document. It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the
document. Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo. The name
should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end. I don't
use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
If not, speak to end would be best.

Gene


Re: first contact

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Anthony,

In the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?  if a command is listed just with one keystroke (eg NVDA+f12 to read the time), then the keystroke applies to both laptop and desktop keyboard layout.  Most commands are presented in tables with the command name, then the desktop keystroke, then the laptop keystroke, then the touch gesture (not all commands have touch gestures at least) and finally a description of the command.

In the training material available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ the desktop command is given, followed by the laptop command in parenthesis (brackets), for instance: To read the current line, press NVDA+up arrow (Laptop: NVDA+l)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 6:28 PM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi quentin

 

Many thanks for your encouragement and your support to help me,

 

I’m using a laptop and I don’t know if the all commands that we find in the guide applies to both, laptops and desktop computers.

 

Thanks once again

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 June 2017 01:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] first contact

 

Hi Anthony,

 

Welcome to the group!  Everyone here is really friendly and helpful.  Do feel free to ask any questions you have as you come across them!

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:36 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hello all

 

I just started to use NVDA and I would like to start using the list group which I’m sure it can be of a great help for me.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony borg   



 

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Training and Support Manager

 

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: latest Skype update

Robert Mendoza
 

I do hope on the next update or I would assume they would come up with solution for this specially for the screen reader users. to incorporate keystrokes like in the classic version of Skype they have. Though, I play and tested this last week but seemingly tabbing around is not viable or to recommend. Keep our finger crossed that before they would to close down the service of the Skype desktop MS or Skype team will mitigate an easier use of this apps soon. I personally will be having problem with it because I use Skype for my call for business. Or, worse comes to worse I will look for an alternative VOIP services that is easy to used with.

On 6/8/2017 6:22 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:
It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹










.


Re: latest Skype update

 

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.

On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:
It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹









.


Changing the name of say all command

Gene
 

Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.  That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a document.  It starts to speak or read, from your current position in the document.  Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo.  The name should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to end.  I don't use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.  If not, speak to end would be best. 
 
Gene


Re: query

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


it is the nvda key + up arrow key for the desktop version of the keyboard.



the nvda key + down arrow key is for the say all command in a desktop.
Gene nz

On 8/06/2017 9:11 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

--

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Re: query

Gene
 

NVDA down arrow is read to end.  Does the laptop have a numpad?  The only reason to use the laptop layout is if the laptop doesn't have a numpad. 
 
If it were me, I'd probably buy a USB numpad and use the desktop layout.  I don't like laptop layouts in any screen-reader. 
 
I don't know where or how your are looking at commands but you appear to somehow be looking at them incorrectly.  Are you using the quick key reference in help>  In that reference, commands are given as desktop layout, then on the next line laptop, then touch gesture, if any. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: query

David Moore
 

You’re welcome.

Have a great one. It is easier to use the commands to read the current line with the review cursor than with the PC cursor.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 5:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Many thanks david for your explanation, and your help.

 

I really appreciated.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi,

To read current line, press either numpad 8 on a desktop, or press NVDA+Shift+period on a laptop.

For speaking lines, make sure you have punctuation level set to some.

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

 


Re: query

anthony borg
 

Many thanks david for your explanation, and your help.

 

I really appreciated.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi,

To read current line, press either numpad 8 on a desktop, or press NVDA+Shift+period on a laptop.

For speaking lines, make sure you have punctuation level set to some.

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 


Re: query

anthony borg
 

Hi gene

 

Many thanks for your prompt reply, yes I guess as you said I have to change to laptop mode, 

 

To read the current line I use the NVDA key plus down arrow as you explained, but it keeps reading the whole page as well.

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Best regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 08 June 2017 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

hi

 

how are you driving nvda on the computer and is your keyboard layout set to desktop or laptop? the default if i remember is desktop and can be changed under the keyboard settings in NVDA.

 

Are you arrowing down line by line with the down arrow key? or do you want it to read the current line? it is the nvda key + up arrow key to read the current line with a desktop.

 

I am also guessing in the document formatting section of nvda you have the following checked. for example line numbers checked. Uncheck it then tab down to the ok button then press the enter key. NVDA might have to be restarted for it to take affect. Then try it again.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/06/2017 8:01 PM, anthony borg wrote:

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: latest Skype update

Peter Beasley
 

That is probably because you didn't uncheck the box wich says let skype automatically adjust my microphone level.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

It used to screw up all my sound card settings every time I tried to use it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update


Hi, is this for win ten? I never go on skype. It never worked properly for
me. I’m glad it works okay for you blind folk. But for me, Skype is junk!
Loll. I had nothing but problems with it. Even with my first xp box. I
baught mike after mike because people complained they could not hear me. Or
I was too loud. With this 7 box same thing. people could not hear me. So,
I just gave up on it.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: June-07-17 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update



When i had a quick look at the metro style version of skype it seemed fairly
accessible, but will have to play with it a little more.



I was able to make a test call etc but seemed along the lines of the classic
version.



Gene nz

On 8/06/2017 3:00 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:



It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype in
july

That’s progress I guess ☹











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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
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from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.


Re: latest Skype update

Peter Beasley
 

I have been using skype now for 13 years and don't have a problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 6:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

I cant say I don’t blame yu for not using it. I'm seriously thinking of deleting my skype account. I don’t used the blooming thing!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: June-07-17 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:
It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹



Re: query

David Moore
 

Hi,

To read current line, press either numpad 8 on a desktop, or press NVDA+Shift+period on a laptop.

For speaking lines, make sure you have punctuation level set to some.

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: anthony borg
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hello all

 

Can somebody explain to me, what I should do to read a current line because according to the guide, I should press NVDA plus control plus the fullstop,but it didn’t work.

 

The second question is, what should I do to stop the NVDA to read the number of each line in an email or document?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony     

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 07 June 2017 21:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

Hi Devin,


Go to the NVDA menu with NVDA+N, go into Preferences, and choose Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation.

 

You can stop it saying “Carriage return” in there.

 

Cheers,

 

Ed

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: 07 June 2017 15:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

I’m talking about using right arrow. Carriage return just sounds really wordy and I’m not sure new users would know what it means. No, I guess Blank wouldn’t be best, but new line would be great.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Carriage return

 

What are you describing?  If I down arrow through a document in any application, a blank line is announced as blank.  If I move character by character, a carriage return is announced as carriage return.  I suppose this could be shortened to return but I don't have any feelings about that one way or another.  But there should certainly be a distinction of this type when moving by character.  Saying blank is inaccurate when moving by character but it isn't blank.  It’s a formatting character.

 

Are you saying that in the Windows e-mail app, when moving by down arrowing blank lines aren't indicated with the word blank? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:41 AM

Subject: [nvda] Carriage return

 

Hi all. Coming from Linux and Mac, I was a little surprised to find that, at least in the Windows 10 mail app, NVDA shows a new line as carriage return. Is this necessary now? Shouldn’t this be changed to something more understandable, like new line, or even blank?

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor in training, JAWS certified.