Date   

Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I actually did try an older version, and in doing so, the caps lock and numpad insert both work beautifully.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 3:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Hi I cannot duplicate this problem in Windows 7 with UK English with either
laptop or desktop set up with or without  capslock set as nvda key.

Suggestions.
 Something to do with maybe Windows 10 if this is in use on all machines
Oddity in then add on or other software running blocking that key
combination from working.
 Only way to prove its nvda is to go back to an old version and report back,
but from what you say that might not be ideal either.

I wonder what language is set on the machine, could it be mapping that key
before nvda gets to it?
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 12:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key


OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it,
given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and
have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.

Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely
stopped working as the NVDA modifier.

I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert
are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as
well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded
all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon
running, and all default stock settings.

I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.

I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup
file and installed directly with no success.

I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were
behind. Then reinstalled. No good.

I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3
of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.

I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's
a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as
well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those
systems 100% consistently.

Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far
gone.

I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the
problem was.

I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.

I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.

I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on
with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's
happenning on more than one system...

I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.

What gives!

Chris.




Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


No. They are set correctly on US American English standard 101.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 2:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Keyboard language settings?


Only thing that comes to mind.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-06-09 02:45, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I knew you would know the difference, I'm just running out of ideas to check :)

I'll keep thinking on it and check with Mick and Jamie.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
I'm aware of the difference in the 6pack extended insert key, and the numpad insert key, and yes, I am absolutely 100% sure.
 
I'd call you all's tech support line, but I can't afford support right now; don't have the money. This is driving me however to absolute drinking, which with the stress lately I've been under in general, is the last thing I need to do!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Very odd, and you've definitely got "Use numpad insert as an NVDA modifier key" checked?  (There are two insert options - the other is "use extended insert as an NVDA modifier key" - that's the insert in the group of six keys with insert, delete, home, end, page up and page down).


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
If num lock is on, yes, the 0 types perfectly, nope, all different type PC's, some desktop, some laptop. Anything from HP, to Lonovo, Dell, a few Acers, maybe one or two Asuses, etc. Someone said plug a wireless keyboard in, and it'll work. Not the case. Tried that, and it didn't help.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

If numlock is on, does the key type a 0?  If it was one keyboard on one computer, I'd suspect the key might have gone, but you say it's happening on multiple computers?  Are they all the same type of computer and same type of keyboard?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



microsoft windows oneCore voices

Josh Kennedy
 

hi

I am using the latest NVDA next snapshot. I can use the oneCore voices as a development testing. I see david, zira, and mark mobile voices. are there more oneCore mobile voices maybe for british and other dialects and other languages? if so how do I get them?


Re: Apple WWDC Keynote

Dennis L
 

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t apple products and apps accessible?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 6:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

No kidding. I used to be quite an Apple fanatic, but I'm rapidly seeing the light.

---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

I think as an accessability issue to those not into apple its a staring case
of apple centric ism in my view.
 They really need to get themselves sorted.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Masic" <list@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote


> Hi. I'M not believe this is something wich belong to this list, however i
> will reply anyway.
>
> You are only able to watch WWDC in PC by using EDGE. If you dont't have
> Edge, you must follow it on other platforms. I know... The keynot have
> already been, however you can stil watch it, and there is also other
> stuff, for instans accessibility sesion wich still havebn't been and
> intresteed for us.
>
>
>
>
> Den 2017-06-05 kl. 18:54, skrev Lino Morales:
>> Does anyone know how to watch the keynote with Edge using NVDA? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: Silly question but I'll ask anyway!

Felix G.
 

Hi!
To explain: When merging Master into Next, it doesn't mean that afterwards they will be identical. It means: Next gets all the changes that were done to Master since they diverged. So the sounds are not affected, and Next keeps the new ones. Does that make sense?
Kind regards,
Felix

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> schrieb am Fr., 9. Juni 2017 um 17:19 Uhr:

I see the latest snap is merge master into Next, how is it then that when
you do this you don't end up with the original sound effects back in next.
I prefer them myself over the new ones any day.
 The new ones make me think of some old Atari arcade games from the80s!
Sorry if someone hear is the author.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.





Re: Apple WWDC Keynote

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

 

I don't even own an Apple product. They're so expensive anyway. I think it's great that Microsoft really wants to make windows 10 as accessible as it can be and it looks like they're doing a good job. I don't even own an iPhone.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

Amen! I am so happy you are seeing the light! Apple is just patting people on the head and saying, there you go, you poor disabled person, I did this for you to make this accessible. They do not care about the Disabled at all. All they want is money. Now Microsoft, they are begging for our input on making win10 as accessible as it can be. MS really cares about us blind people, and many blind people are employed by Microsoft. Another company who goes out of the way to make the product accessible is Drop Box. They actually train some of their workers to use Drop Box under blind folds. That is how far they go out of the way to be accessible. Apple just wants a pat on the back for making their iPhones and so on accessible right out of the box. Microsoft will knock Apple out of the water someday, I can’t wait to celebrate when they do LOL!

Have a great one, guys!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

No kidding. I used to be quite an Apple fanatic, but I'm rapidly seeing the light.

---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

I think as an accessability issue to those not into apple its a staring case
of apple centric ism in my view.
 They really need to get themselves sorted.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Masic" <list@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote


> Hi. I'M not believe this is something wich belong to this list, however i
> will reply anyway.
>
> You are only able to watch WWDC in PC by using EDGE. If you dont't have
> Edge, you must follow it on other platforms. I know... The keynot have
> already been, however you can stil watch it, and there is also other
> stuff, for instans accessibility sesion wich still havebn't been and
> intresteed for us.
>
>
>
>
> Den 2017-06-05 kl. 18:54, skrev Lino Morales:
>> Does anyone know how to watch the keynote with Edge using NVDA? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

 


Re: FW: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't gotten it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi Joseph, Larry,

 

This was a common issue at one point last year, and we fixed it in NVDA 2016.3.  I had a report of it recently from someone after updating to NVDA 2017.2, but then they advised it disappeared again.  I just had a look myself and couldn't reproduce it on my machine.  I forced Outlook 2016 to check for updates and it did do an update and it still isn't giving that message for me now.

 

Has anyone else got that "associated drafts, no associated drafts" message lately?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Can anyone write to Larry privately and see if we can reproduce this? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:38 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

It’s installed on a desktop. I just uninstalled and went out and got the latest version, reinstalled.

 

Same results.

lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:45 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Is this a portable version of NVDA or an installed copy? If it’s an installed copy, chances are that, somehow, UIA or something underneath isn’t responding well.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:19 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Thanks Joseph for responding. I do have the latest, 2017.2 loaded.

What else my friend?

Lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:13 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA did you get? To check, press Insert+N, go to Help menu, then go to About and listen carefully. If you have versions other than 2017.2, you should use the new version, as it does not announce “associated draft” and similar messages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:54 AM
To: joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I am an old dog trying hard to learn new tricks; translation: I have been a JAWS user since the beginning but am now trying hard to convert to NVDA. Other than trying to get a real handle on the object navigation, the real issue I have is when using Outlook 2016.

 

When looking at the list of messages, NVDA has at the beginning of every message:

Associated Draft No Associated Draft. Then the rest of the message header info. I have looked at various settings under NVDA to turn this description off but cannot figure it out.

 

It is very annoying; no other screen reader reports this.

 

Do you have any idea what I can do?

 

Most cordially yours,

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-on

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Wow, that's gonna be neat!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sapi 5 mobile add-on

 

Unless you'd like to run the next snapshot of NVDA. It will be included in NVDA 2017.3.

 

On 6/9/2017 1:58 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi:

 

It’s already installed in Windows 10 if you’re using US English.  It’s just that NVDA doesn’t recognize it at this time.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sapi 5 mobile add-on

 

Hello,

 

How do you get the mark voice mobile?

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 6/9/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

> Ah:  That’s great.

> Both the Mark and Richard voices are fairly lively sounding and will make

> excellent alternatives.  Not as responsive as eSpeak, but, they do add more

> choices.

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Joseph Lee

> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:35 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi,

> There will come a day when you don’t have to visit that website nor install

> that add-on to use that synthesizer with NVDA.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph

> Norton

> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:24 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi list:

> I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that allows

> NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are 2 really

> perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the US Canada

> category.

> Was this written by NV Access.  It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to be

> on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV Access, I

> would have thought it would be right there.

> This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but, maybe

> it's too bugy or something.  Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place on the

> main NV Access add-ons pages.

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

Tyler Spivey
 

Download a next snapshot from here:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

On 6/9/2017 10:56 AM, Joseph Norton wrote:
Hi:



What would be the easiest way to get that version? Do I need to compile
myself? I don’t mind playing with beta code.





Thanks!





Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10



*From: *Tyler Spivey <mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net>
*Sent: *Friday, June 9, 2017 12:13 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook



The code? Yes. The addon file? No.

It should be safe enough to use, though. It's based on commit 4810483a9,

which was reverted.

Maybe it crashed for some people.



Support for these voices will eventually end up in NVDA core. They're

being tested on next right now, with a new driver.

I'm running next and it's working fine. YMMV.



On 6/8/2017 9:24 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi list:
I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that
allows NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are
2 really perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the
US Canada category.
Was this written by NV Access. It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to
be on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV
Access, I would have thought it would be right there.
This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but,
maybe it's too bugy or something. Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong
place on the main NV Access add-ons pages.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10









Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-on

Lino Morales
 

Unless you'd like to run the next snapshot of NVDA. It will be included in NVDA 2017.3.


On 6/9/2017 1:58 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

Hi:

 

It’s already installed in Windows 10 if you’re using US English.  It’s just that NVDA doesn’t recognize it at this time.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sapi 5 mobile add-on

 

Hello,

 

How do you get the mark voice mobile?

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 6/9/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

> Ah:  That’s great.

> Both the Mark and Richard voices are fairly lively sounding and will make

> excellent alternatives.  Not as responsive as eSpeak, but, they do add more

> choices.

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Joseph Lee

> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:35 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi,

> There will come a day when you don’t have to visit that website nor install

> that add-on to use that synthesizer with NVDA.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph

> Norton

> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:24 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi list:

> I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that allows

> NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are 2 really

> perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the US Canada

> category.

> Was this written by NV Access.  It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to be

> on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV Access, I

> would have thought it would be right there.

> This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but, maybe

> it's too bugy or something.  Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place on the

> main NV Access add-ons pages.

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 



Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-on

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

It’s already installed in Windows 10 if you’re using US English.  It’s just that NVDA doesn’t recognize it at this time.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sapi 5 mobile add-on

 

Hello,

 

How do you get the mark voice mobile?

 

Thanks.

Dave.

 

 

On 6/9/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@...> wrote:

> Ah:  That’s great.

> Both the Mark and Richard voices are fairly lively sounding and will make

> excellent alternatives.  Not as responsive as eSpeak, but, they do add more

> choices.

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Joseph Lee

> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:35 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi,

> There will come a day when you don’t have to visit that website nor install

> that add-on to use that synthesizer with NVDA.

> Cheers,

> Joseph

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph

> Norton

> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:24 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

> Hi list:

> I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that allows

> NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are 2 really

> perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the US Canada

> category.

> Was this written by NV Access.  It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to be

> on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV Access, I

> would have thought it would be right there.

> This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but, maybe

> it's too bugy or something.  Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place on the

> main NV Access add-ons pages.

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

Joseph Norton
 

Hi:

 

What would be the easiest way to get that version?  Do I need to compile myself?  I don’t mind playing with beta code.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

 

The code? Yes. The addon file? No.

It should be safe enough to use, though. It's based on commit 4810483a9,

which was reverted.

Maybe it crashed for some people.

 

Support for these voices will eventually end up in NVDA core. They're

being tested on next right now, with a new driver.

I'm running next and it's working fine. YMMV.

 

On 6/8/2017 9:24 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:

> Hi list:

> I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that

> allows NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are

> 2 really perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the

> US Canada category.

> Was this written by NV Access.  It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to

> be on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV

> Access, I would have thought it would be right there.

> This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but,

> maybe it's too bugy or something.  Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong

> place on the main NV Access add-ons pages.

> Any thoughts?

> Thanks!

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Where are the add-ons hiding?

Ann Byrne
 

Awesome! thank you.

At 12:21 PM 6/9/2017, you wrote:
Hi,


From the NVDA menu go to tools, then manage addons. Once there, press
enter, then tab to the get addons button and nvda will take you straight
to the website.

Hope this helps.

Tony
On 6/9/2017 11:41 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
What is the address for the addons page???

Thanks,




Re: FW: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

I just tested this on my windows machine and I am not seeing it. I am running NVDA 2017.2 on Windows10 creaters update. I tested this with Outlook2016.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


On 6/8/2017 7:50 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Joseph, Larry,

This was a common issue at one point last year, and we fixed it in NVDA 2016.3.  I had a report of it recently from someone after updating to NVDA 2017.2, but then they advised it disappeared again.  I just had a look myself and couldn't reproduce it on my machine.  I forced Outlook 2016 to check for updates and it did do an update and it still isn't giving that message for me now.

Has anyone else got that "associated drafts, no associated drafts" message lately?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Can anyone write to Larry privately and see if we can reproduce this? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:38 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

It’s installed on a desktop. I just uninstalled and went out and got the latest version, reinstalled.

 

Same results.

lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:45 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Is this a portable version of NVDA or an installed copy? If it’s an installed copy, chances are that, somehow, UIA or something underneath isn’t responding well.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:19 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Thanks Joseph for responding. I do have the latest, 2017.2 loaded.

What else my friend?

Lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:13 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA did you get? To check, press Insert+N, go to Help menu, then go to About and listen carefully. If you have versions other than 2017.2, you should use the new version, as it does not announce “associated draft” and similar messages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:54 AM
To: joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I am an old dog trying hard to learn new tricks; translation: I have been a JAWS user since the beginning but am now trying hard to convert to NVDA. Other than trying to get a real handle on the object navigation, the real issue I have is when using Outlook 2016.

 

When looking at the list of messages, NVDA has at the beginning of every message:

Associated Draft No Associated Draft. Then the rest of the message header info. I have looked at various settings under NVDA to turn this description off but cannot figure it out.

 

It is very annoying; no other screen reader reports this.

 

Do you have any idea what I can do?

 

Most cordially yours,

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I just installed the latest version of jarte with no problem.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dejan Ristic
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

 

Hi,

 

I installed Jarte 6.1 with no issues.

 

I've had some update-and-install issues with skype, but it has disappeared with the latest version.

 

On 6/9/2017 7:04 PM, Gene wrote:

I would suggest that the person who has the problem try downloading it again if he/she hasn't.  Files may become corrupted during downloads with no indication that it has happened. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

 

That's odd. I installed Jarte 6.1 a while ago and had no issues
accessing my files afterward. It's been working just fine.


On 9/06/2017 4:47 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> I just tried to install it on my Windows 7 box and it claims it cannot
> move a file during the install then cannot continue any further. If
> you force it then it cannot find a file to run.
> I've gone back to version 5.4
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
>
>
>



 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Where are the add-ons hiding?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


From the NVDA menu go to tools, then manage addons. Once there, press
enter, then tab to the get addons button and nvda will take you straight
to the website.

Hope this helps.

Tony

On 6/9/2017 11:41 AM, Ann Byrne wrote:
What is the address for the addons page???

Thanks,



Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi,


I installed Jarte 6.1 with no issues.


I've had some update-and-install issues with skype, but it has disappeared with the latest version.


On 6/9/2017 7:04 PM, Gene wrote:
I would suggest that the person who has the problem try downloading it again if he/she hasn't.  Files may become corrupted during downloads with no indication that it has happened. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

That's odd. I installed Jarte 6.1 a while ago and had no issues
accessing my files afterward. It's been working just fine.


On 9/06/2017 4:47 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> I just tried to install it on my Windows 7 box and it claims it cannot
> move a file during the install then cannot continue any further. If
> you force it then it cannot find a file to run.
> I've gone back to version 5.4
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
>
>
>






Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

Gene
 

I would suggest that the person who has the problem try downloading it again if he/she hasn't.  Files may become corrupted during downloads with no indication that it has happened. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware Jarte 6.1 folks

That's odd. I installed Jarte 6.1 a while ago and had no issues
accessing my files afterward. It's been working just fine.


On 9/06/2017 4:47 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> I just tried to install it on my Windows 7 box and it claims it cannot
> move a file during the install then cannot continue any further. If
> you force it then it cannot find a file to run.
> I've gone back to version 5.4
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
>
>
>





Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-on

David Mehler
 

Hello,

How do you get the mark voice mobile?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/9/17, Joseph Norton <joseph.norton@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah: That’s great.

Both the Mark and Richard voices are fairly lively sounding and will make
excellent alternatives. Not as responsive as eSpeak, but, they do add more
choices.

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

Hi,
There will come a day when you don’t have to visit that website nor install
that add-on to use that synthesizer with NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Norton
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

Hi list:

I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that allows
NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are 2 really
perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the US Canada
category.

Was this written by NV Access.  It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to be
on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV Access, I
would have thought it would be right there.

This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but, maybe
it's too bugy or something.  Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place on the
main NV Access add-ons pages.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



Re: Sapi 5 mobile add-onRE: [nvda] Using Outlook

Tyler Spivey
 

The code? Yes. The addon file? No.
It should be safe enough to use, though. It's based on commit 4810483a9, which was reverted.
Maybe it crashed for some people.

Support for these voices will eventually end up in NVDA core. They're being tested on next right now, with a new driver.
I'm running next and it's working fine. YMMV.

On 6/8/2017 9:24 PM, Joseph Norton wrote:
Hi list:



I found an add-on on the page called “Jeff’s NVDA Add-on Page” that
allows NVDA to be used with the SAPI 5 mobile voices, of which there are
2 really perky ones, Mark in the US English category and Richard in the
US Canada category.



Was this written by NV Access. It says it was, but, it doesn't seem to
be on the regular NVDA add-ons page, and, if it was written by NV
Access, I would have thought it would be right there.



This would seem to be a useful add-on to be readily available, but,
maybe it's too bugy or something. Or, maybe I'm looking in the wrong
place on the main NV Access add-ons pages.



Any thoughts?



Thanks!



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10