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Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Arianna Sepulveda
 

So, what exactly does good browsing hygiene entail? I've heard a lot about this over the years, but I've never really understood what it means.


Thanks,
Ari

On Apr 5, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Brian Gaff offered, "I wonder if one of the issues is that she is just not being careful enough. Sooner or later if you do not take care, you will get something nasty, no matter what security you have on a machine you know."

And without any hesitation I second this idea, and it has nothing to do with whether one is blind or not.

The subject of infections and "things being missed" comes up endlessly on forums, and most tech geeks say exactly what Mr. Gaff has said in one way or another.  I have done the same recently, twice, on the JFW Group.  For anyone who might be interested the posts are, Recommendations for anti-virus, and, Forums Question & possible change request.  If you do not engage in good "browsing hygiene" you will get infected, period.  There is no way for antivirus, antimalware, and antispyware programs to be 100% up to date and 100% effective 100% of the time.

Brian

Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Gene
 

The free version of Malware Bytes doesn't have real time protection.  It doesn't stop a machine from being infected.  It can detect and remove a lot of infections once the machine is infected.  
 
If we can determine and remove the underlying problem, it might be less important to use such a program with real time protection.  It still might be a good idea.
Gene

Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Dan,

        I preface with the following:  This is not meant to be accusatory, it's meant as a problem-solving step.

        As has been observed several times now, there has to be something that your wife is doing, in some way, whether intentionally or not, that accounts for this difference.  Given the state of antivirus software, and that virtually all of it will scan anything you download before it is placed on your machine where you can access it, these infections are not likely viruses.  Most other types of infections are the direct result of some user action, typically clicking through on unfamiliar links that take you to malicious sites.  If you have ever had an infection, and it was not completely purged, you can end up having this occur again because the malware/spyware itself triggers "click-throughs."

         Part of ultimately solving this problem is going to be figuring out exactly what action has been taken that is triggering it in the first place.  

         I will disagree with Gene, but only slightly, in that I have generally found the free version of Malwarebytes to be completely sufficient for ridding machines of malware, particularly for home users.  It's part of the standard tool suite that I install on new machines when I am setting them up for a client.  I also like Spywareblaster, which is pre-emptive in nature.  I use Malwarebytes mostly "after the fact" when there's an infection.  Spywareblaster keeps your web browsers from being able to access a long list of known malicious sites (among other things).  The free version requires that you manually update the definitions while the paid version (which is not very expensive) will do automatic updating for you.  I cannot speak to whether it's accessible or not.

Brian

Brian

Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

 

Dan,

        I preface with the following:  This is not meant to be accusatory, it's meant as a problem-solving step.

        As has been observed several times now, there has to be something that your wife is doing, in some way, whether intentionally or not, that accounts for this difference.  Given the state of antivirus software, and that virtually all of it will scan anything you download before it is placed on your machine where you can access it, these infections are not likely viruses.  Most other types of infections are the direct result of some user action, typically clicking through on unfamiliar links that take you to malicious sites.  If you have ever had an infection, and it was not completely purged, you can end up having this occur again because the malware/spyware itself triggers "click-throughs."

         Part of ultimately solving this problem is going to be figuring out exactly what action has been taken that is triggering it in the first place.  

         I will disagree with Gene, but only slightly, in that I have generally found the free version of Malwarebytes to be completely sufficient for ridding machines of malware, particularly for home users.  It's part of the standard tool suite that I install on new machines when I am setting them up for a client.  I also like Spywareblaster, which is pre-emptive in nature.  I use Malwarebytes mostly "after the fact" when there's an infection.  Spywareblaster keeps your web browsers from being able to access a long list of known malicious sites (among other things).  The free version requires that you manually update the definitions while the paid version (which is not very expensive) will do automatic updating for you.  I cannot speak to whether it's accessible or not.

Brian

Brian

Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,

Most of what my wife does on-line is shop on Amazon, New Egg, Tiger Direct and a few other shopping sites.  She does a fair amount on Facebook and our church's website.  Other than that I don't see much that should cause her to get these bad things on her laptop but she does.  I do much of the same kinds of things and I do not seem to get these things at all or at least very very little.

I had her set the A V G  settings the same as what I use and her system still gets these things where I do not.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 4/5/2016 10:58 AM, Gene wrote:
Also, if, as has been said, the files are mostly spyware, while you might get better protection using another antivirus program, you should also add the paid version of Malware Bytes if your wife goes to sites and does things that expose her to malware other than viruses.  But what your wife does to infect her computer would be useful to discuss.  Someone who takes good care to follow safe practices should not be infected with anything serious at all often.  We don't know what your wife is infected with but if she if often infected with more than trivial things like tracking cookies, then she is doing things that open her to infection and that should be discussed. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian Gaff offered, "I wonder if one of the issues is that she is just not being careful enough. Sooner or later if you do not take care, you will get something nasty, no matter what security you have on a machine you know."

And without any hesitation I second this idea, and it has nothing to do with whether one is blind or not.

The subject of infections and "things being missed" comes up endlessly on forums, and most tech geeks say exactly what Mr. Gaff has said in one way or another.  I have done the same recently, twice, on the JFW Group.  For anyone who might be interested the posts are, Recommendations for anti-virus, and, Forums Question & possible change request.  If you do not engage in good "browsing hygiene" you will get infected, period.  There is no way for antivirus, antimalware, and antispyware programs to be 100% up to date and 100% effective 100% of the time.

Brian


Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Gene
 

Also, if, as has been said, the files are mostly spyware, while you might get better protection using another antivirus program, you should also add the paid version of Malware Bytes if your wife goes to sites and does things that expose her to malware other than viruses.  But what your wife does to infect her computer would be useful to discuss.  Someone who takes good care to follow safe practices should not be infected with anything serious at all often.  We don't know what your wife is infected with but if she if often infected with more than trivial things like tracking cookies, then she is doing things that open her to infection and that should be discussed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian Gaff offered, "I wonder if one of the issues is that she is just not being careful enough. Sooner or later if you do not take care, you will get something nasty, no matter what security you have on a machine you know."

And without any hesitation I second this idea, and it has nothing to do with whether one is blind or not.

The subject of infections and "things being missed" comes up endlessly on forums, and most tech geeks say exactly what Mr. Gaff has said in one way or another.  I have done the same recently, twice, on the JFW Group.  For anyone who might be interested the posts are, Recommendations for anti-virus, and, Forums Question & possible change request.  If you do not engage in good "browsing hygiene" you will get infected, period.  There is no way for antivirus, antimalware, and antispyware programs to be 100% up to date and 100% effective 100% of the time.

Brian

Re: vlc media player

Lenron
 

1.1 seems to not be working for me but 07 did.

On 4/5/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
i tested some versions of it, but unfortunately i could not its useful
shortcuts and even i could not go to begin and end of my tracks with
it!
and also i could not understand its total time, elaps and remaining time.
i think its not accessible for us, but maybe i am novice and did not
find the solution!

On 4/5/16, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I use it not a power user but it just works.

On 05/04/2016 10:03, Isaac wrote:
Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far
as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening
and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks



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burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
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Re: win 10 build 295 and "invalid entry"

Lenron
 

I am having this issue as well. It's annoying as hell.

On 4/5/16, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Hi Brian.
Yes, i think its just happenhing in the store apps and modern apps or
whatever they're called now.
Of course, facebook does it too, the app i mean.
hth

Scott

On 4/5/2016 9:39 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. Not sure if there are others participating in the windows insider
program here. noticed something with the last two builds build 291
and 295. I have already reported via feedback but curious if others
are experiencing something similar. All over the place, nvda is now
announcing "invalid entry" where this is not the case. not sure if it
is an nvda issue or windows itself although I suspect windows.

as a test, go to a list of available wifi networks. every single one
will say "invalid entry" after its name. they still work fine but
this phrase is repeated all over the place.

At this point, I have only tried on two asus transformer book machines
and perhaps it is machine specific but want to provide more info to ms
if I can. anyone else experiencing this?

Brian.



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Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

 

Brian Gaff offered, "I wonder if one of the issues is that she is just not being careful enough. Sooner or later if you do not take care, you will get something nasty, no matter what security you have on a machine you know."

And without any hesitation I second this idea, and it has nothing to do with whether one is blind or not.

The subject of infections and "things being missed" comes up endlessly on forums, and most tech geeks say exactly what Mr. Gaff has said in one way or another.  I have done the same recently, twice, on the JFW Group.  For anyone who might be interested the posts are, Recommendations for anti-virus, and, Forums Question & possible change request.  If you do not engage in good "browsing hygiene" you will get infected, period.  There is no way for antivirus, antimalware, and antispyware programs to be 100% up to date and 100% effective 100% of the time.

Brian

Re: win 10 build 295 and "invalid entry"

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hi Brian.
Yes, i think its just happenhing in the store apps and modern apps or whatever they're called now.
Of course, facebook does it too, the app i mean.
hth

Scott

On 4/5/2016 9:39 AM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. Not sure if there are others participating in the windows insider program here. noticed something with the last two builds build 291 and 295. I have already reported via feedback but curious if others are experiencing something similar. All over the place, nvda is now announcing "invalid entry" where this is not the case. not sure if it is an nvda issue or windows itself although I suspect windows.

as a test, go to a list of available wifi networks. every single one will say "invalid entry" after its name. they still work fine but this phrase is repeated all over the place.

At this point, I have only tried on two asus transformer book machines and perhaps it is machine specific but want to provide more info to ms if I can. anyone else experiencing this?

Brian.

win 10 build 295 and "invalid entry"

Brian Moore
 

Hi. Not sure if there are others participating in the windows insider program here. noticed something with the last two builds build 291 and 295. I have already reported via feedback but curious if others are experiencing something similar. All over the place, nvda is now announcing "invalid entry" where this is not the case. not sure if it is an nvda issue or windows itself although I suspect windows.

as a test, go to a list of available wifi networks. every single one will say "invalid entry" after its name. they still work fine but this phrase is repeated all over the place.

At this point, I have only tried on two asus transformer book machines and perhaps it is machine specific but want to provide more info to ms if I can. anyone else experiencing this?

Brian.

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Re: vlc media player

 

hi.
i tested some versions of it, but unfortunately i could not its useful
shortcuts and even i could not go to begin and end of my tracks with
it!
and also i could not understand its total time, elaps and remaining time.
i think its not accessible for us, but maybe i am novice and did not
find the solution!

On 4/5/16, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
I use it not a power user but it just works.

On 05/04/2016 10:03, Isaac wrote:
Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far
as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening
and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks



--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: Open office and libreoffice in terms of accessability

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Yes, i also like libre office.
I got rid of my office 365 subscription so now i use libre office.

hth

Scott

On 4/4/2016 8:26 PM, Ali Colak wrote:
Thanks a lot, Rosemarie. Jazak allahu khayra, Sr. nasrin .

On 4/4/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hello.
i tested both libreoffice and open office and read many online
materials and documentations about them.
it depend on your need that which one you select.
but i mentione for you sometechnical points that i know andare
prominent for me.
1/ libreoffice is fortunately more independent and less need for java.
but open office is more relies on java.
for example: libreoffice only needs java for macros, data base etc.
but open office needs java for macros, data base, saving to xml and
some vizard like letter, fax, agenda and web page.
libreoffice saves inboth microsoft office 2003 and new office formats
like: doc, ppt, docx, pptx etc.
but open office only saves in microsoft office 2003 formats.
2/ libreoffice supports word count and character count in all of the
format which support in its version before version 5.
but in version 5.0 and later, it only supports word and character
count only for its special format which is .odt.
open office does not have this option.
and word-character format is special feature of libreoffice.
3/ both programs support many formats for openning and range of
libreoffice formats is more wide.
for example: libreoffice even supports many formats of mac for openning.
4/ libreoffice in version 4.3 shows its messages very accessible by
tab key and you can easily press tab and with using home to go to
first character and pressing control shift end, you can select it,
copy it and peist in other place.
but unfortunately the messages are not accessible easily in other
programs and you should nvda screen review and other nvda cursors to
access it.
5/ libreoffice has somecloud online services and open office does not
have.
for example: google drive, one drive, sharepoint, etc.
6/ libreoffice since version 4.4 has an option for openGL and open
office does not have.
its very strungly recommended to deactivate it, in libreoffice tools,
options, libreoffice, view.
7/ say all does not work in both libreoffice and open office and you
should read your documents paragraph by paragraph.
8/ somesaid that open office is more stable and libreoffice has more
features that open office has not.
9/ open office translated to limited languages and you can select and
install only your own language.
but libreoffice is translated to more than 110 languages and when you
install it, it recognizes your locale language in your windows.
it installs only english and your local language.
10/ libreoffice help file should be installed separately.
but open office help is installed by default.
11/ if you want more information, you have refer to this link for
example, and also email me.

http://www.howtogeek.com/187663/openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use/

thanks for your question and god bless you.

On 4/4/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi,

I like the fact that you don't have to alt tab to get to the type of
things you want to use such as a spread sheet. I tried libre office but
didn't like it as well.


On 4/3/2016 9:34 PM, Ali Colak wrote:
I have recently installed both OpenOffice 4.1.2 and libreoffice 5.16
and began experimenting. They have bothe come a long way in terms of
accesability since april of 2014, which was the last time I tried tem.
But I would like to ask members of the group, which one they would
recommend in terms of accessability and why? I'm sure everyone will
have a different opinion, but I would like to hear them, specifically
where accessability is concerned. I have already discovered that the
word count in openoffice seems more accessable.

Eager to read your opinions
Ali




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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: vlc media player

Kevin Cussick
 

I use it not a power user but it just works.

On 05/04/2016 10:03, Isaac wrote:
Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far
as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening
and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: vlc media player

Ksenia Natapova
 

Sorry
I wanted to send the addon but it is failed. I send you the link.



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:51 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

where can the addon be had?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc media player

Hello,
I use the VLC and I think it's highly responsive in comparisson to other media players. It is also possible to open, close files and even read subtitles with it.
There is also an addon which makes this program more accessible with nvda. 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: vlc media player

Ksenia Natapova
 



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:51 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

where can the addon be had?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc media player

Hello,
I use the VLC and I think it's highly responsive in comparisson to other media players. It is also possible to open, close files and even read subtitles with it.
There is also an addon which makes this program more accessible with nvda. 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: vlc media player

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

where can the addon be had?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc media player

Hello,
I use the VLC and I think it's highly responsive in comparisson to other media players. It is also possible to open, close files and even read subtitles with it.
There is also an addon which makes this program more accessible with nvda. 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: vlc media player

Ksenia Natapova
 

And no, there is no spyware in it.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: vlc media player

Ksenia Natapova
 

Hello,
I use the VLC and I think it's highly responsive in comparisson to other media players. It is also possible to open, close files and even read subtitles with it.
There is also an addon which makes this program more accessible with nvda. 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 05.04.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Isaac <bigikemusic@...>:

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

vlc media player

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, how many of you guys use vlc, and is there any spiware in it as far as you know, sure is much more responsive then winamp as far as opening and closing files, please if some of you could give your opinion.
Thanks

Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

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I wonder if one of the issues is that she isjust not being careful enough. Sooner or later if you do not take care, you will get something nasty, no matter what security you have on a machine you know.
There are endless guides and faqs on this sort of thing, but as was said, the problem of being one of the first to get something will always be present, which is why I'd advocate reading these guides.

Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?


Hi Brian,

Actually I misspoke. The laptop is getting a few viruses but mostly
adware and malware type infections. This is why I was looking at
Kaspersky. It looks like it handles what I expect my wife would run into.

I do not know what the particular infections it has gotten are called
because there have been so many of them over the past year or so.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 4/4/2016 4:59 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Dan,

I ask the following not to be snarky, but to gain some
clarity: What is the computer getting infected with? or What has the
computer been infected with?

A great many infections are malware or spyware, not
viruses, and these can and do get past many straight antivirus
programs. They should not get past full security suites, except if
very new and you're one of the very first people infected before the
signatures have been added to the scanning databases for things other
than viruses.

Brian