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Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Ah--I didn't think of that. Thanks for the tip.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

Ah, you may have multiple tabs open. Try pressing Control+W repeatedly until Edge closes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

I haven't played with it enough to know how to get to the menu and favorites. It's new to me too.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Edge, how do you get to the menus?  How do you get to the favorits?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

Ah, you may have multiple tabs open. Try pressing Control+W repeatedly until Edge closes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the following page might help you. It is the nvda tutorials for other programs page which is found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you are on it jump down by headings to the section that says about Microsoft edge, a page come off that and hopefully will help you with it.


Gene nz



On 6/19/2017 12:30 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Edge, how do you get to the menus?  How do you get to the favorits?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

Ah, you may have multiple tabs open. Try pressing Control+W repeatedly until Edge closes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


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Re: NVDA and Excel

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Rob,

We do!  "Microsoft Excel for NVDA" just came out last week so it's hot off the press: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-excel-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Rob <captinlogic@...> wrote:
We have NVDA and Word as an ebook. Do we have anything similar for Excel? Or something in the works for such.






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NVDA and Excel

Rob
 

We have NVDA and Word as an ebook. Do we have anything similar for Excel? Or something in the works for such.


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,

While we are on the subject of Edge, how do you get to the menus?  How do you get to the favorits?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

Ah, you may have multiple tabs open. Try pressing Control+W repeatedly until Edge closes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi,

Ah, you may have multiple tabs open. Try pressing Control+W repeatedly until Edge closes.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Roger,

 

I still can't close the browser. I can't even go to the file menu to close it. I'm heaqring a youtube videoon edge but want to get out of it! This is frustrating! What do I do now?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I tried alt F-4 but it didn't work. I'll give it another try. Maybe I didn't close it correctly.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 


Re: A question about non destructive errors

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Brian,

Without being specifically familiar with this particular code, a couple of points off the top of my head:

- Often different programs (and sometimes even the same program) will have controls which may look and behaves exactly the same to the end user, but underneath they work differently.  This can be why some controls throw up errors when others do not.
- Partly for the same reason, if we try and find out information a certain way and it fails, there may be another (backup, if you like) way that we can try which may get the same information.  In that case, the control may throw up an error, but appear to work as normal.
- My lack of familiarity with the code will show here, but the error about CoInitialize not being called is likely because it would be usual to initialize that prior to making a certain request.  For whatever reason that wasn't done, which may in some situations mean that the value returned by that request may be unexpected.  Whether that's a problem or not I'd need Mick or Jamie to answer, but all that might give you a bit of an idea to start with.  Again, that's all just general off the top of my head and without being specifically familiar with the code.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
As quite a lot of us do use snapshot builds we do hear errors from time to time. one of the most annoying ones I see in windows 7 is when some of the search fields are used. There can be multiple errors as one types in and even when the edit area is opened, yet to all  intents and purposes it seems like the control itself has worked.
Here is a log to demonstrate what I mean.

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:18:51.645):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:18:51.730):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Search Box  edit   Search Windows (C:)']
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.UIA.UIATextInfo._getTextWithFieldsForUIARange (14:18:51.732):
_getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.UIA.UIATextInfo._getTextWithFieldsForUIARange (14:18:51.733):
rootElement: edit
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:18:51.733):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x05C24D90> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\easyTableNavigator\globalPlugins\easyTableNavigator.py", line 82, in event_gainFocus
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 427, in event_gainFocus
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "appModules\explorer.pyc", line 280, in event_gainFocus
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 907, in event_gainFocus
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 819, in reportFocus
 File "speech.pyc", line 367, in speakObject
 File "speech.pyc", line 689, in speakTextInfo
 File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 584, in getTextWithFields
 File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 444, in _getTextWithFieldsForUIARange
COMError: (-2147221008, 'CoInitialize has not been called.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:18:51.740):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x05C24D90> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 940, in event_caret
 File "review.pyc", line 167, in handleCaretMove
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 973, in makeTextInfo
 File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 244, in __init__
COMError: (-2147221008, 'CoInitialize has not been called.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:18:51.752):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIA object at 0x05C24D90> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 940, in event_caret
 File "review.pyc", line 167, in handleCaretMove
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 973, in makeTextInfo
 File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyc", line 244, in __init__
COMError: (-2147221008, 'CoInitialize has not been called.', (None, None, None, 0, None))


This is in the master branch and has been around for quite some time now but of course one does not hear it on the final builds.
Also quit why it refers to two add-ons which would seem to have nothing to do with it is a mystery as well.
Just wondered why this c_inisialise or whatever is not called and why it seems that some edit areas work while others do not.

Brian

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Re: how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Roger Stewart
 

I've just played with it a bit, but was always able to close it with alt f4 just like any other program.

Roger








On 6/18/2017 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie



how do you close the microsoft edge browser?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I decided to play with edge a little bit but I had trouble closing the browser. I had to go to the desktop and then shut down. There has to be a way to close it like you do other browsers.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie


Re: I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

valiant8086
 

Hi.


I haven't finished reading this thread yet, so I don't know if you have a solution yet. to find f10 easier, put both hands at the top row all 8 fingers. Make sure the left  pinky is just right of escape and thus on 1, then take right pinky right two more fingers. Alternatively, count to f12 from the right it might be possible to put all 4 fingers on the right most keys and know that if you hit with your p9inter finger you'll hit f10, or perhaps that's f11 or so and need only go left one more key.


I can write a small autoit app if necessary, let me know off list to ensure that I'll see it.

Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 6/17/2017 4:02 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Yeah, I've known about shift+F10 for years upon years upon years, but again, in this case, it's not going to suffice.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

The left click selects the item under the mouse.  The right click brings up options on what to do with said item, so if the applications key were to simulate anything, it would have to be the right click.

Good to know the other keystroke that does the job though, thanks for that.



On 6/17/2017 3:27 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:

Press shift-F10 to simulate the applications key.  It is the left click, not the right click, that also simulates the applications key.


On 6/17/2017 3:19 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

I seem to recall from somewhere that the applications key is the same as a right click, so you could try pressing the NVDA key for right click, and see if it brings up the same menu for you.  I've never bothered to test this assertion, so I could be wrong, and it's of course possible that some programs specifically look for the applications key (if that's possible), and so a right click wouldn't do the trick, but it's worth trying.



On 6/17/2017 3:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, this is a little bit of a unique situation, but I'm sure I'm probably not the only person who's run into this predicament.
 
I have an HP laptop which more specifically is the HP 250G5.
 
Though this system is absolutely incredible, I love it, there is one thing, and really only! about one thing, that I do not like about it.
 
Unfortunately, this system has no physical application's key. Trust me. I've gone into keyboard help, and have practically hit everything under the sun! It's not even something where holding down FN along with another key will do it. I even have gone so far as to get ahold of HP, and they confirmed that the key doesn't exist on this model.
 
A few possibilities therefore are an external keyboard that has this key. Well, there went my portability.
 
The other would be to hit shift+F10 to open the context menu on the focused item. Normally 99.9 percent of the time, this would be OK, but, my keys F1 through F10 are not spaced apart tacticly, and I'm a very firm believer in not putting dots on my keys. To me, that just feels utterly disgusting, and I always shutter when working with students who's keys are that way. If it helps you, great! Do it, but for me, it makes it more confusing.
 
This leads me to my final sollution, which is why I'm writing you all today.
 
I'm aware of the program called Sharpkeys, but the issue with that is, it will only let you map a key to another single key. Well, I don't have another key on this machine that I could substitute that wouldn't feel very awquard.
 
I know what I'd like to use.
 
I'd like for Alt+Shift+Spacebar to press the applications key at the currently focused item. Basically Alt+Shift+Space to be the same as me hitting the application's key.
 
Can this be done in an addon, and if so, is this something that someone up here would be willing to put together for me?
 
I admittedly don't know programming that well, let alone specifically Python, so forgive me.
 
I know Joseph Lee would say, perhaps this should be sent to the NVDA addon list instead, but, I'd rather honestly not join that list for now, as I'm not an NVDA dev, nor really have any intention at this time of being so. I think the list would get overwhelming, and I already have enough e-mail as is.
 
Like I say, I can't imagine this would be too terribly hard to do compared to a lot of other addons.
 
Literally, all I need it to do is globally hit the application's key, not shift F10, let me be very very transparent on that fact. I have an app I use that certain places require the applications key, and Shift+F10 won't work in those areas. It *has* to be the apps key.
 
Wouldn't it just be a matter of coding an if/then statement routine that says something to the effect of:
 
IF keyinput=("alt+shift+space")
    THEN Presskey("applicationskey");
 
OK, I know that's not literally how the source would look, nor was I trying to make it such.
 
I was trying, more or less, to make the point of saying, I don't think this should be hard based on the little programming I know, which again, is more than enough to commit suicide on myself.
 
If it's not quite that easy, then just tell me to shut up. LOL! NO seriously, don't do that, LOL, but, you get my point.
 
Right now, I'm gonna be very straight up. This isn't something I could pay an addon creator to make, however, given what I'm guessing to be the symplisity of this, I'd not suspect it would be terribly hard to do. I'd not think it would take but maybe 10 or so minutes to write, if even that.
 
If we were talking JAWS, I could have this done in about 2 minutes or less with the script manager, but, alas, we're not so.
 
Again, to clarify, I'd want this done globally throughout the OS, so regardless the window, I'm in, it would work.
 
Windows 10 64 Bit Creator Edition Professional, if that matters.
 
NVDA 2017.2, again, if that matters. This is a full install, not a portable, and yes, I do have administrator access, and U A C is disabled entirely, in case the API's for this to work require it.
 
Chris.


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Re: I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Before communications programs had scrolling built in, (I.E. show 25 lines, then stop), the scroll lock key was used to freeze the screen when talking with mainframes via terminal, so you could read the content before letting it scroll some more.  Or at least, that's what I was told once, I've actually never dug into wy keyboards have a scroll lock key, so this information could just be someone's idea of what it probably was for, with no hard evidence of such.


However, checking our good friend google, I found a wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scroll_lock
that reminded me that among other things, scroll lock is used for exactly that purpose in FreeBSD, which now that I read that, I do remember that, In fact, I've used that capability in FreeBSD myself.  This would seem to indicate that the original purpose of stopping scrolling for terminal programs may have some basis in truth, although the wikipedia article doesn't mention such usage.
Interestingly enough, the wikipedia article also claims there are several microsoft programs that still use the scroll lock key for it's supposed intended purpose, but having never used it in those programs, I can't confirm whether it actually works or not.
However, programmatically, it is possible to check scroll lock status, so perhaps it could be used to toggle states in programs that need such.  <shrug>

On 6/18/2017 1:43 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
What even was! back in the days, even if it didn't really do us visually impaired people any good, the scroll lock used for?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

The scroll lock isn't part of the six pack.  I don't know how many laptops may have a scroll lock key.  My laptop either doesn't have one or requires some sort of fn plus key combination.  The keys on the six pack are, from left to right on a standard keyboard, and moving from top to bottom of each column, insert and delete, home and end, page up and page down.
 
On a standard keyboard, the scroll lock is the middle key in the three key cluster to the right of the twelve function keys.  I've never heard of it being used in Windows.  I recall it was used in DOS but my guess is that many keyboards built into Windows laptops may not have such a key or a combination of keys for it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

out of curiousity what are the actual keys on that 6 pack?

I know that there is a print screen key and the scroll lock but what are the other ones?
On 6/17/2017 2:59 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Heh, and Chris, for what it's worth, you can use the program mentioned in Jake's post (below) to remap the scroll lock key to be the context if you have one of those.  That might solve the problem, since nobody seems to use the scroll lock key for anything useful in most cases.


On 6/17/2017 5:02 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

This page speaks about how to use autoHotKey to remap the right alt key to be used as the context menu/applications context key:

https://superuser.com/questions/710601/how-to-map-right-alt-to-context-menu-key/710609


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On 2017-06-17 22:51, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
That isn't entirely altogether true.
 
When you, like me, have physical motor and dexterity issues in your hands which prevent you from doing things effectively the way you have describe...
 
No offense by this intended, and I hope none taken, but please consider those like myself who may have other physical limitations which prevent them from doing certain things as you would. This isn't me, but what about those with cognative issues as well, who find reaching a key like that to be hard, if not impossible.
 
I mean this with the utmost of respect.
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

Everything is awkward when you first go to do it. It was weird at
first for me to have to reach up and to the right instead of hitting a
button right next to my spacebar, but I got used to it. It is all up
to how you chose to deal with it.

On 6/17/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
> I suppose I could! technically remap scrollock or printscreen, but again,
> those keys are really awquard to get to on this thing.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Melissa Jean
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:05 PM
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community
>
>
>   I'm not familiar with all of the keys available with that model since
>   I didn't bother to look it up, but when I got my new keyboard I had
>   the same sort of issue. There was an FN key in the spot where the
>   applications key was. I used sharp keys to remap my scroll lock key
>   for the applications key. I've never in my many years, sighted and non
>   sighted, used that group of keys for anything, lol. I use to use print
>   screen, but that is it.
>
>   Melissa
>
>   On 6/17/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
>   > Travis,
>   >
>   > This won't work.
>   >
>   > I'd have to be using either screen review, or object nav for this to
> work,
>   > and yes, you are correct on your assumption that some apps interpret
> the
>   > apps key different from a right click. It's rare, I'll grant you that,
> but
>   > it does happen.
>   > ---
>   > Christopher Gilland
>   > Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>   >
>   > http://www.gshministry.org
>   > (980) 500-9575
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Travis Siegel
>   >   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   >   Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:19 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community
>   >
>   >
>   >   I seem to recall from somewhere that the applications key is the same
> as a
>   > right click, so you could try pressing the NVDA key for right click, and
> see
>   > if it brings up the same menu for you.  I've never bothered to test
> this
>   > assertion, so I could be wrong, and it's of course possible that some
>   > programs specifically look for the applications key (if that's
> possible),
>   > and so a right click wouldn't do the trick, but it's worth trying.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   On 6/17/2017 3:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>   >
>   >     OK, this is a little bit of a unique situation, but I'm sure I'm
>   > probably not the only person who's run into this predicament.
>   >
>   >     I have an HP laptop which more specifically is the HP 250G5.
>   >
>   >     Though this system is absolutely incredible, I love it, there is
> one
>   > thing, and really only! about one thing, that I do not like about it.
>   >
>   >     Unfortunately, this system has no physical application's key. Trust
> me.
>   > I've gone into keyboard help, and have practically hit everything under
> the
>   > sun! It's not even something where holding down FN along with another
> key
>   > will do it. I even have gone so far as to get ahold of HP, and they
>   > confirmed that the key doesn't exist on this model.
>   >
>   >     A few possibilities therefore are an external keyboard that has
> this
>   > key. Well, there went my portability.
>   >
>   >     The other would be to hit shift+F10 to open the context menu on the
>   > focused item. Normally 99.9 percent of the time, this would be OK, but,
> my
>   > keys F1 through F10 are not spaced apart tacticly, and I'm a very firm
>   > believer in not putting dots on my keys. To me, that just feels utterly
>   > disgusting, and I always shutter when working with students who's keys
> are
>   > that way. If it helps you, great! Do it, but for me, it makes it more
>   > confusing.
>   >
>   >     This leads me to my final sollution, which is why I'm writing you
> all
>   > today.
>   >
>   >     I'm aware of the program called Sharpkeys, but the issue with that
> is,
>   > it will only let you map a key to another single key. Well, I don't
> have
>   > another key on this machine that I could substitute that wouldn't feel
> very
>   > awquard.
>   >
>   >     I know what I'd like to use.
>   >
>   >     I'd like for Alt+Shift+Spacebar to press the applications key at
> the
>   > currently focused item. Basically Alt+Shift+Space to be the same as me
>   > hitting the application's key.
>   >
>   >     Can this be done in an addon, and if so, is this something that
> someone
>   > up here would be willing to put together for me?
>   >
>   >     I admittedly don't know programming that well, let alone
> specifically
>   > Python, so forgive me.
>   >
>   >     I know Joseph Lee would say, perhaps this should be sent to the
> NVDA
>   > addon list instead, but, I'd rather honestly not join that list for now,
> as
>   > I'm not an NVDA dev, nor really have any intention at this time of being
> so.
>   > I think the list would get overwhelming, and I already have enough
> e-mail as
>   > is.
>   >
>   >     Like I say, I can't imagine this would be too terribly hard to do
>   > compared to a lot of other addons.
>   >
>   >     Literally, all I need it to do is globally hit the application's
> key,
>   > not shift F10, let me be very very transparent on that fact. I have an
> app I
>   > use that certain places require the applications key, and Shift+F10
> won't
>   > work in those areas. It *has* to be the apps key.
>   >
>   >     Wouldn't it just be a matter of coding an if/then statement routine
> that
>   > says something to the effect of:
>   >
>   >     IF keyinput=("alt+shift+space")
>   >         THEN Presskey("applicationskey");
>   >
>   >     OK, I know that's not literally how the source would look, nor was
> I
>   > trying to make it such.
>   >
>   >     I was trying, more or less, to make the point of saying, I don't
> think
>   > this should be hard based on the little programming I know, which again,
> is
>   > more than enough to commit suicide on myself.
>   >
>   >     If it's not quite that easy, then just tell me to shut up. LOL! NO
>   > seriously, don't do that, LOL, but, you get my point.
>   >
>   >     Right now, I'm gonna be very straight up. This isn't something I
> could
>   > pay an addon creator to make, however, given what I'm guessing to be
> the
>   > symplisity of this, I'd not suspect it would be terribly hard to do. I'd
> not
>   > think it would take but maybe 10 or so minutes to write, if even that.
>   >
>   >     If we were talking JAWS, I could have this done in about 2 minutes
> or
>   > less with the script manager, but, alas, we're not so.
>   >
>   >     Again, to clarify, I'd want this done globally throughout the OS,
> so
>   > regardless the window, I'm in, it would work.
>   >
>   >     Windows 10 64 Bit Creator Edition Professional, if that matters.
>   >
>   >     NVDA 2017.2, again, if that matters. This is a full install, not a
>   > portable, and yes, I do have administrator access, and U A C is
> disabled
>   > entirely, in case the API's for this to work require it.
>   >
>   >     Chris.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >        Virus-free. www.avast.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>





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Re: NVDA on a Windows tablet

 

Its a pitty windows s is like this.

For one thing this os could be a simple os for the elderly like my grandpa and for those that don't need all the extra bells of a full os.

We as the blind do need and like desktop apps so even if we could have it configured for that alone and nothing else I'd probably be happy with it.

On 19/06/2017 5:16 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
Windows S is a competitor of Chrome OS, and only runs apps from the shop...
As far as I know, impaired people can freely upgrade to Windows 10...

Rui Fontes


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Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Windows tablet

No windows 10S will not run any third party software so nvda is out. I do
not understand though why they are doing this at all.
Seems counter intuitive to me.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Windows tablet


Hi


Apart from the specs specified in the user manual you should be ok.


By the way if you are getting a tablet get the x86 version of Windows not the RT version which is found on some tablets and windows phones.


There is a new version of windows for schools i do not think it works on that version but if i remember right if it is upgraded to the full version of windows it will.

But some one else might know more. I would say at this point even if it was upgraded the windows 10 S version i would say know but others might know more on the list.


the link to the article is https://www.nvaccess.org/post/why-cant-nvda-run-on-windows-10-mobile-and-windows-10-s/

gene nz


There is a article that explains it.



On 18/06/2017 11:32 AM, Don H wrote:
How well does NVDA work on a Windows based tablet? Are there any minimum specs for a tablet to work well with NVDA?
Thanks




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Re: nvda freezing in web browsers

 

My system yhas that ability in its power software.

However I have always turned it off, as it makes screen readers and stuff stutter.

The processer has this in bios to but it can be that things do stutter a lot.

It doesn't happen on my 64 windows but since the unit is not supported, I have uninstalled all the extra bloat that was usefull during the system's life cycle.

Now that lifecycle has expired, the only things left on there bar drivers ofcause are sensor drivers and minimal things like that.

99.9% of the stuff that starts up unless it is a service isn't even active.

On 19/06/2017 1:12 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
It can, I think only be done in 7 and 10. In these systems you can elect to throttle back the processor, to save battery on laptops and to keep processor temperatures down.
I've never found such a thing in XP but it is possible that some laptops have something like this if they are multi core processor driven.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda freezing in web browsers


hi brian.
could you please explane me again what should i do in power options to
improve usibility of firefox with nvda and avoide freezing?
please explane me in windows xp.

On 6/18/17, Pascal Lambert <rambeau68@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Adjusting the advance power options , as you suggested, resulted in a
significant improvement. I am experiencing less freezing with Firefox,
Chrome and Outlook 2013. Many thanks.
Blessings.
Pascal

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda freezing in web browsers

This in Chrome. Did you say it also affected Firefox?
I notice here that when the snapshot is loading we are already getting
complaints of slow loading core and freezes.
Is this machine a multi processor one or single processor?
It only hads4 gig of memory. since I had earlier issues with general
hiccupping scrolling in ordinary explorer I put in 8 gig and that went
away.

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Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda freezing in web browsers


ok here is the nvda log so you can see how NVDA is freezing in web
browsers. its the debug log. its pasted below.


INFO - __main__ (14:00:40.098):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (14:00:40.851):
Config dir: C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:00:40.851):
Loading config: C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (14:00:40.930):
Config loaded (after upgrade, and in the state it will be used by NVDA):
{u'schemaVersion': u'1', u'upgrade': {}, u'update': {u'autoCheck':
u'True'}, u'general': {u'language': u'Windows',
u'saveConfigurationOnExit': u'True', u'askToExit': u'False',
u'playStartAndExitSounds': u'True', u'loggingLevel': u'DEBUG',
u'showWelcomeDialogAtStartup': u'False'}, u'speech': {u'synth':
u'eloquence', u'autoLanguageSwitching': u'False', u'outputDevice':
u'Microsoft Sound Mapper', u'espeak': {u'voice': u'en-us', u'variant':
u'max', u'rate': u'20', u'pitch': u'40', u'inflection': u'75', u'volume':

u'100', u'rateBoost': u'True', u'capPitchChange': u'0',
u'sayCapForCapitals': u'True'}, u'eloquence': {u'voice': u'65536',
u'variant': u'1', u'pitch': u'65', u'volume': u'100', u'rate': u'80',
u'capPitchChange': u'0', u'sayCapForCapitals': u'True'}, u'oneCore':
{u'voice':
u'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\SOFTWARE\\Microsoft\\Speech_OneCore\\Voices\\Tokens\\MSTTS_V110_enUS_MarkM',

u'volume': u'100', u'rate': u'100'}}, u'braille': {u'expandAtCursor':
u'False', u'cursorBlink': u'False', u'messageTimeout': u'15',
u'readByParagraph': u'True', u'noBraille': {u'port': u''}}, u'keyboard':
{u'keyboardLayout': u'laptop', u'useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey': u'True',
u'speakTypedCharacters': u'False', u'speakTypedWords': u'True',
u'alertForSpellingErrors': u'False'}, u'mouse': {u'mouseTextUnit':
u'word', u'reportObjectRoleOnMouseEnter': u'True',
u'audioCoordinatesOnMouseMove': u'True'}, u'presentation':
{u'reportTooltips': u'True',
u'guessObjectPositionInformationWhenUnavailable': u'True',
u'progressBarUpdates': {u'reportBackgroundProgressBars': u'True'}},
u'virtualBuffers': {u'autoSayAllOnPageLoad': u'False',
u'autoPassThroughOnFocusChange': u'False'}, u'documentFormatting':
{u'reportComments': u'False', u'reportRevisions': u'False',
u'reportSpellingErrors': u'False', u'reportPage': u'False',
u'reportTables': u'False', u'reportTableHeaders': u'False',
u'reportTableCellCoords': u'False', u'reportLists': u'False',
u'reportBlockQuotes': u'False', u'reportLandmarks': u'False',
u'reportFrames': u'False'}, u'wintenApps': {u'updateCheckTime':
u'1498059511'}}
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:41.108):
setting language to Windows
INFO - core.main (14:00:41.111):
NVDA version master-14109,35dc6213
INFO - core.main (14:00:41.111):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (14:00:41.111):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59)

[MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (14:00:41.111):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:41.125):
Initializing add-ons system
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.131):
Listing add-ons from C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.131):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\DECtalk
access32 4.41 and 4.60
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.135):
Found add-on DECtalk access32 4.41 and 4.60
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.137):
Loading add-on from
C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\EloquenceOriginal
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.141):
Found add-on EloquenceOriginal
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.141):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\objPad
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.144):
Found add-on objPad
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.144):
Loading add-on from
C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\resourceMonitor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.147):
Found add-on resourceMonitor
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.174):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vlc
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.177):
Found add-on vlc
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.180):
Loading add-on from C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps
DEBUG - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (14:00:41.184):
Found add-on wintenApps
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:42.170):
Initializing appModule Handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:42.171):
Addon vlc added to appModules package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:42.171):
Addon wintenApps added to appModules package path
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:42.173):
Initializing NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:42.266):
Speech Dictionary processing
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:42.266):
Loading speech dictionary
'C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:42.266):
file 'C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\default.dic' not
found.
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:42.267):
Loading speech dictionary 'builtin.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:42.270):
3 loaded records.
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:42.272):
Initializing speech
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:42.272):
Addon DECtalk access32 4.41 and 4.60 added to synthDrivers package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:42.273):
Addon EloquenceOriginal added to synthDrivers package path
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:46.147):
Loading speech dictionary
'C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\eloquence-American
English.dic'...
DEBUG - speechDictHandler.SpeechDict.load (14:00:46.148):
file 'C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\eloquence-American
English.dic' not found.
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (14:00:46.150):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
DEBUGWARNING - core.main (14:00:46.177):
Slow starting core (6.05 sec)
IO - speech.speak (14:00:46.177):
Speaking [u'Loading NVDA. Please wait...']
INFO - core.main (14:00:46.210):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.214):
Initializing braille
INFO - braille.initialize (14:00:46.217):
Using liblouis version 3.0.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (14:00:46.253):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.255):
Initializing braille input
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (14:00:46.256):
Braille input initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.257):
Initializing displayModel
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.257):
Initializing GUI
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.316):
initializing Java Access Bridge support
WARNING - core.main (14:00:46.318):
Java Access Bridge not available
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.387):
Initializing winConsole support
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:46.388):
Initializing UIA support
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (14:00:46.407):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.428):
Initializing IAccessible support
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.433):
Initializing input core
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap
(14:00:48.434):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (14:00:48.434):
No user gesture map
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.434):
Initializing keyboard handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.459):
initializing mouse handler
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.595):
Initializing touchHandler
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.initialize (14:00:48.595):
No touch devices found
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:48.595):
Initializing global plugin handler
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:48.598):
Addon objPad added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:48.598):
Addon resourceMonitor added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - addonHandler.Addon.addToPackagePath (14:00:48.598):
Addon wintenApps added to globalPlugins package path
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:50.739):
Initializing core pump
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:50.812):
Initializing watchdog
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:50.894):
initializing updateCheck
INFO - core.main (14:00:50.894):
NVDA initialized
DEBUG - core.main (14:00:50.895):
entering wx application main loop
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:00:51.398):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 522, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 299, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 293, in _isUIAWindowHelper

IO - speech.speak (14:00:52.717):
Speaking [u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (14:00:52.823):
Speaking [u'Taskbar']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:00:54.736):
Input: kb(laptop):windows+d
IO - speech.speak (14:00:55.385):
Speaking [u'FolderView list']
IO - speech.speak (14:00:55.390):
Speaking [u'Recycle Bin not selected 1 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:00:57.693):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+f12
IO - speech.speak (14:00:57.723):
Speaking [u'2:00 PM']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:07.832):
Input: kb(laptop):home
IO - speech.speak (14:01:08.170):
Speaking [u'selected']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:09.710):
Input: kb(laptop):g
IO - speech.speak (14:01:09.844):
Speaking [u'Google Chrome 2 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:12.293):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+NVDA+2
IO - speech.speak (14:01:12.305):
Speaking [u'Physical: 924.78mb of 2.87gb used (31.4%). Virtual: 858.29mb
of 4.12gb used (20.3%).']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:13.775):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
(14:01:19.927):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 131644, objectID 1 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:01:20.013):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 888, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 755, in processForegroundWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 37, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 341, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyc", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:01:20.822):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 888, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 755, in processForegroundWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 59, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 188, in findBestAPIClass
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyc", line 439, in kwargsFromSuper
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:01:22.155):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 655, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 76, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 502, in
findOverlayClasses
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1111, in QueryService

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:01:22.160):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 655, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 76, in __call__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
IO - speech.speak (14:01:31.553):
Speaking [u'document busy']
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:01:31.631):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x041E50F0>
IO - speech.speak (14:01:31.869):
Speaking [u'document']
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 5784 (chrome.exe) (14:01:32.069):
Thread 5964, build\x86\vbufBase\storage.cpp,
VBufStorage_buffer_t::getLineOffsets, 985:
Offset of 0 too big for buffer, returning false

IO - speech.speak (14:01:32.073):
Speaking [u'blank']
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:01:33.614):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x041C5ED0>
IO - speech.speak (14:01:33.881):
Speaking [u'Google document']
IO - speech.speak (14:01:33.987):
Speaking [u'link', u'Screen reader users, click here to turn off Google
Instant.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:35.453):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:36.642):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:01:37.279):
Speaking [u'link', u'Screen reader users, click here to turn off Google
Instant.']
IO - speech.speak (14:01:37.737):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - speech.speak (14:01:38.453):
Speaking [u'Search edit Search']
IO - speech.speak (14:01:40.470):
Speaking [u'Screen reader users, click here to turn off Google Instant.',

u'link']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:41.158):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:01:41.641):
Speaking [u'link', u'Screen reader users, click here to turn off Google
Instant.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:43.490):
Input: kb(laptop):rightArrow
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:01:43.598):
Speaking character u'c'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:01:43.601):
Adding generator 1
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (14:01:43.634):
generator 1 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:46.394):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:01:47.651):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'clickable', u'Search combo box editable has
auto complete clickable Search']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:49.726):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:01:49.857):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'link', u'Search by voice']
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:01:55.137):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x0420BAD0>
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:55.302):
Input: kb(laptop):windows+d
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:01:55.802):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 138, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 151, in doPreGainFocus
File "api.pyc", line 145, in setFocusObject
File "api.pyc", line 224, in setNavigatorObject
File "review.pyc", line 117, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyc", line 25, in getObjectPosition
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 973, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 151, in
_getCaretOffset

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:01:55.993):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.Document object at 0x0420BBB0> with
extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 138, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 151, in doPreGainFocus
File "api.pyc", line 145, in setFocusObject
File "api.pyc", line 224, in setNavigatorObject
File "review.pyc", line 117, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyc", line 25, in getObjectPosition
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 973, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:01:56.556):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 396, in _loadBufferDone
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1083, in event_treeInterceptor_gainFocus
File "speech.pyc", line 353, in speakObject
File "speech.pyc", line 269, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 866, in
_get_description
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 795, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - queueHandler.flushQueue (14:01:56.588):
Error in func _loadBufferDone from eventQueue
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "virtualBuffers\__init__.pyc", line 396, in _loadBufferDone
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1083, in event_treeInterceptor_gainFocus
File "speech.pyc", line 353, in speakObject
File "speech.pyc", line 269, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
IO - speech.speak (14:01:56.655):
Speaking [u'FolderView list']
IO - speech.speak (14:01:56.661):
Speaking [u'Google Chrome 2 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:01:59.167):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+tab
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:02:00.568):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 37, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 341, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyc", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:02:00.874):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:02:01.721):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 37, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 341, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyc", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:02:01.871):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:02:02.775):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 522, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 299, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 293, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
(14:02:04.086):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66342, objectID 4 and childID

0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
IO - speech.speak (14:02:04.233):
Speaking [u'Google window']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:04.276):
Speaking [u'Google document']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:04.286):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:02:04.357):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionEditorIa2WebIAccessible

object at 0x0423D4F0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 138, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 151, in doPreGainFocus
File "api.pyc", line 145, in setFocusObject
File "api.pyc", line 224, in setNavigatorObject
File "review.pyc", line 117, in setCurrentMode
File "review.pyc", line 25, in getObjectPosition
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 973, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyc", line 93, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyc", line 201, in
_findContentDescendant
COMError: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (14:02:05.414):
Speaking [u'Google document']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:05.542):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:05.667):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'clickable', u'Search combo box editable has
auto complete clickable Search']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:07.762):
Input: kb(laptop):control+home
IO - speech.speak (14:02:08.019):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:09.177):
Input: kb(laptop):control+home
IO - speech.speak (14:02:09.269):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:10.253):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:10.467):
Speaking [u'link', u'Images']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:11.519):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:11.667):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:12.762):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:12.831):
Speaking [u'link', u'Images']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:13.684):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:13.769):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:15.319):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+NVDA+2
IO - speech.speak (14:02:15.335):
Speaking [u'Physical: 1.21gb of 2.87gb used (42%). Virtual: 1.21gb of
4.12gb used (29.3%).']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:17.165):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:17.282):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:17.563):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:17.724):
Speaking [u'link', u'Images']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:18.299):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:18.479):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:19.589):
Input: kb(laptop):e
IO - speech.speak (14:02:19.917):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'clickable', u'Search combo box editable has
auto complete clickable Search']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:21.509):
Input: kb(laptop):control+home
IO - speech.speak (14:02:21.782):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:23.289):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+f4
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent
(14:02:25.569):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 262896, objectID -4 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:02:25.727):
Killed treeInterceptor: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf
object at 0x0420BAD0>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:02:25.730):
Killed treeInterceptor: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf
object at 0x041C5ED0>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:02:25.730):
Killed treeInterceptor: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf
object at 0x041E50F0>
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:02:26.164):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 138, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 151, in doPreGainFocus
File "api.pyc", line 118, in setFocusObject
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 54, in newCpbDel
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 841, in __del__
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1092, in Release

IO - speech.speak (14:02:26.173):
Speaking [u'Desktop list']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:27.365):
Speaking [u'Google Chrome 2 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:27.875):
Input: kb(laptop):home
DEBUG - appModuleHandler.cleanup (14:02:27.908):
application chrome closed
IO - speech.speak (14:02:27.930):
Speaking [u'Recycle Bin 1 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:29.783):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+NVDA+2
IO - speech.speak (14:02:29.799):
Speaking [u'Physical: 967.31mb of 2.87gb used (32.9%). Virtual: 868.44mb
of 4.12gb used (20.6%).']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:34.141):
Input: kb(laptop):windows+a
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 3772 (ShellExperienceHost.exe) (14:02:34.446):
Thread 5580, build\x86\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_initialize, 163:
disabling IA2 support

IO - speech.speak (14:02:34.994):
Speaking [u'Action center window']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:34.999):
Speaking [u'list']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:35.043):
Speaking [u'Notifications from Tips grouping 1 of 1 level 1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:36.789):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:02:36.993):
Speaking [u'Notifications from Tips grouping 1 of 1']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:37.003):
Speaking [u'level 2 The recommended browser. Microsoft Edge was built for

Windows 10.. . Picture, The Microsoft Edge icon. Received on 2:02p 1 of
1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:42.720):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:02:42.780):
Speaking [u'Clear all notifications for Tips button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:43.694):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:02:43.742):
Speaking [u'Notifications from Tips grouping 1 of 1 level 1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:44.299):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+tab
IO - speech.speak (14:02:44.358):
Speaking [u'Clear all notifications button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:45.203):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - speech.speak (14:02:45.548):
Speaking [u'Expand quick actions button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:46.190):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+f4
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:47.436):
Input: kb(laptop):windows+d
IO - speech.speak (14:02:47.628):
Speaking [u'FolderView list']
IO - speech.speak (14:02:47.637):
Speaking [u'Recycle Bin 1 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:49.046):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+f12
IO - speech.speak (14:02:49.062):
Speaking [u'2:02 PM']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:49.648):
Input: kb(laptop):m
IO - speech.speak (14:02:49.713):
Speaking [u'Mozilla Firefox 4 of 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:53.440):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+NVDA+2
IO - speech.speak (14:02:53.453):
Speaking [u'Physical: 982.36mb of 2.87gb used (33.4%). Virtual: 880.38mb
of 4.12gb used (20.8%).']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:02:54.447):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:03:00.900):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 888, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 755, in processForegroundWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 37, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 341, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "oleacc.pyc", line 240, in AccessibleObjectFromEvent

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:03:01.114):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 888, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 755, in processForegroundWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:03:02.108):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 669, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 685, in processFocusNVDAEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 633, in
_get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 26, in _get_parent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 448, in accNavigate
File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 442, in __ctypes_from_outparam__
File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 64, in newVARIANT_value_fget
File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 367, in _get_value
File "comtypes\client\dynamic.pyc", line 31, in Dispatch
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 93, in __init__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:03:02.118):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 669, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 685, in processFocusNVDAEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 633, in
_get_shouldAllowIAccessibleFocusEvent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 26, in _get_parent
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:03:03.255):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 554, in __init__
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 905, in getIAccIdentity
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1078, in QueryInterface

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:03:03.473):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 76, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 446, in
findOverlayClasses
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:03:03.970):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x0420BC90>
IO - speech.speak (14:03:04.040):
Speaking [u'Google - Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (14:03:04.513):
Speaking [u'Google document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:03:04.526):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - speech.speak (14:03:07.742):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'Search combo box collapsed editable has auto

complete']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:18.244):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:19.999):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.107):
Input: kb(laptop):i
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.306):
Input: kb(laptop):l
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.457):
Input: kb(laptop):l
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.618):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:20.696):
typed word: will
IO - speech.speak (14:03:20.697):
Speaking [u'will']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.778):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.871):
Input: kb(laptop):i
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:20.983):
Input: kb(laptop):n
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.092):
Input: kb(laptop):d
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.186):
Input: kb(laptop):o
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.315):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.483):
Input: kb(laptop):s
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.601):
Input: kb(laptop):7
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.707):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:21.760):
typed word: windows7
IO - speech.speak (14:03:21.762):
Speaking [u'windows7']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:21.989):
Input: kb(laptop):d
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.190):
Input: kb(laptop):r
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.299):
Input: kb(laptop):i
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.400):
Input: kb(laptop):v
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.575):
Input: kb(laptop):e
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.732):
Input: kb(laptop):r
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:22.913):
Input: kb(laptop):s
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.032):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.142):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:23.200):
typed word: drivers
IO - speech.speak (14:03:23.200):
Speaking [u'drivers']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.236):
Input: kb(laptop):o
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.334):
Input: kb(laptop):r
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.407):
Input: kb(laptop):k
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.565):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:23.601):
typed word: work
IO - speech.speak (14:03:23.601):
Speaking [u'work']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.757):
Input: kb(laptop):o
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:23.880):
Input: kb(laptop):n
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.030):
Input: kb(laptop):space
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:24.125):
typed word: on
IO - speech.speak (14:03:24.125):
Speaking [u'on']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.148):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.223):
Input: kb(laptop):i
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.319):
Input: kb(laptop):n
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.410):
Input: kb(laptop):d
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.519):
Input: kb(laptop):o
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.650):
Input: kb(laptop):w
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:24.834):
Input: kb(laptop):s
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:25.346):
Input: kb(laptop):1
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:25.434):
Input: kb(laptop):0
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:25.931):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+/
IO - speech.speakTypedCharacters (14:03:26.048):
typed word: windows10
IO - speech.speak (14:03:26.048):
Speaking [u'windows10']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:26.102):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:03:26.642):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:03:26.773):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:03:26.776):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x0420BC90>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:03:26.809):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x0423DAB0>
IO - speech.speak (14:03:27.036):
Speaking [u'will windows7 drivers work on windows10? - Google Search
document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:03:27.078):
Speaking [u'button collapsed', u'Google apps']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:29.512):
Input: kb(laptop):h
IO - speech.speak (14:03:29.621):
Speaking [u'Google', u'graphic', u'link Go to Google Home', u'heading
level 1']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:30.236):
Input: kb(laptop):h
IO - speech.speak (14:03:30.301):
Speaking [u'Search Results', u'heading level 2']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:30.648):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:30.759):
Speaking [u'heading level 3', u'link', u'Is Windows 10 Backwards
Compatible With Your Existing Software?']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:33.036):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:33.101):
Speaking
[u'https://www.howtogeek.com/.../is-windows-10-backwards-compatible-with-your-exist...',

u'menu button collapsed subMenu', u'Result details']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:33.434):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:33.487):
Speaking [u'Jun 19, 2015 - Yes, Windows 10 can run traditional Windows
desktop applications. ... On the other ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:36.493):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:36.548):
Speaking [u'hand, if there is a driver that does work on Windows 7,
your\xa0...']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:38.414):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:38.523):
Speaking [u'heading level 3', u'link', u'How to get drivers for Windows
10 - PC Advisor']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:38.928):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:38.983):
Speaking [u'hand, if there is a driver that does work on Windows 7,
your\xa0...']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:39.131):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:39.224):
Speaking [u'Jun 19, 2015 - Yes, Windows 10 can run traditional Windows
desktop applications. ... On the other ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:39.289):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:39.348):
Speaking
[u'https://www.howtogeek.com/.../is-windows-10-backwards-compatible-with-your-exist...',

u'menu button collapsed subMenu', u'Result details']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:39.641):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:03:39.743):
Speaking [u'heading level 3', u'link', u'Is Windows 10 Backwards
Compatible With Your Existing Software?']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:40.607):
Input: kb(laptop):rightArrow
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:03:40.641):
Speaking character u's'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:03:40.642):
Adding generator 2
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (14:03:40.644):
generator 2 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:40.789):
Input: kb(laptop):rightArrow
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:03:40.828):
Speaking character u'space'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:03:40.829):
Adding generator 3
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (14:03:40.832):
generator 3 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:03:41.180):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
IO - speech.speak (14:03:41.595):
Speaking [u'will windows7 drivers work on windows10? - Google Search -
Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (14:03:41.861):
Speaking [u'unknown']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:03:42.584):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:03:42.595):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x0423DAB0>
IO - speech.speak (14:03:43.318):
Speaking [u'unknown']
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:03:47.457):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x0423D310>
IO - speech.speak (14:03:48.301):
Speaking [u'Is Windows 10 Backwards Compatible With Your Existing
Software? - Mozilla Firefox']
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:03:58.913):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 138, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 166, in doPreGainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 900, in event_focusEntered
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 141, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1307, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 796, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 50, in
_get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 625, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 134, in _get_description
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 80, in getDialogText
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 42, in _get_states
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 815, in _get_states
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1026, in
_get_IA2Attributes

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:03:58.973):
error executing event: focusEntered on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_DialogMozillaIAccessible object at 0x0420BC90> with
extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 900, in event_focusEntered
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 141, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1307, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 796, in
_get_isPresentableFocusAncestor
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 50, in
_get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 625, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 134, in _get_description
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 80, in getDialogText
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 42, in _get_states
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 815, in _get_states
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:03:59.084):
error executing event: focusEntered on
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x0420B950> with extra

args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 97, in next
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 117, in gen
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 343, in _get_treeInterceptor
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 19, in getTreeInterceptor
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
IO - speech.speak (14:04:00.512):
Speaking [u'Is Windows 10 Backwards Compatible With Your Existing
Software? document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:04:00.674):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:03.901):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:09.276):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+l
IO - speech.speak (14:04:11.500):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:13.914):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+v
IO - speech.speak (14:04:14.095):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
IO - speech.speak (14:04:20.901):
Speaking [u'Menu Bar tool bar']
IO - speech.speak (14:04:20.921):
Speaking [u'Toolbars subMenu T 1 of 2']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:21.964):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:23.213):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 522, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 299, in isUIAWindow
File "_UIAHandler.pyc", line 293, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:27.647):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 554, in __init__
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 905, in getIAccIdentity
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1078, in QueryInterface

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:04:27.838):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 76, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 385, in
findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:33.727):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 140, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 176, in doPreDocumentLoadComplete
File "baseObject.pyc", line 21, in __get__
File "virtualBuffers\gecko_ia2.pyc", line 122, in _get_isAlive
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 546, in __init__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 21, in __get__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 1414, in
_get_IA2WindowHandle

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:35.062):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 140, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 176, in doPreDocumentLoadComplete
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 343, in _get_treeInterceptor
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 19, in getTreeInterceptor
File "virtualBuffers\gecko_ia2.pyc", line 111, in __contains__
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1443, in _isNVDAObjectInApplication
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 483, in _get_container
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 26, in _get_parent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 448, in accNavigate

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:04:35.660):
error executing event: documentLoadComplete on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_BrokenFocusedStateDocumentMozillaIAccessible object
at 0x0423D7F0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 140, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 176, in doPreDocumentLoadComplete
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 343, in _get_treeInterceptor
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 19, in getTreeInterceptor
File "virtualBuffers\gecko_ia2.pyc", line 111, in __contains__
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1443, in _isNVDAObjectInApplication
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 483, in _get_container
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 39, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 913, in _get_parent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:36.293):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "appModules\firefox.pyc", line 24, in event_stateChange
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 97, in next
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 117, in gen
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 343, in _get_treeInterceptor
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 19, in getTreeInterceptor
File "virtualBuffers\gecko_ia2.pyc", line 111, in __contains__
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1443, in _isNVDAObjectInApplication
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 483, in _get_container
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 39, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 911, in _get_parent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 433, in accParent
File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 44, in wrap_outparam
File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 107, in GetBestInterface

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:36.927):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 362, in Notify
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 83, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyc", line 50, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 61, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 140, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 176, in doPreDocumentLoadComplete
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 343, in _get_treeInterceptor
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 19, in getTreeInterceptor
File "virtualBuffers\gecko_ia2.pyc", line 111, in __contains__
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1443, in _isNVDAObjectInApplication
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 483, in _get_container
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\mozilla.pyc", line 39, in _get_parent
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 911, in _get_parent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 435, in accParent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 329, in normalizeIAccessible
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1111, in QueryService

DEBUG - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_role (14:04:37.058):
IARole: div
DEBUG - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_role (14:04:37.059):
IARole: div
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:51.673):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+l
IO - speech.speak (14:04:51.704):
Speaking [u'Toolbars']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:53.417):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:04:53.730):
Speaking [u'Full Screen\tF11 not checked F 1 of 2']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:54.634):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:04:54.891):
Speaking [u'Enter Reader View\tCtrl+Alt+R R 2 of 2']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:04:56.769):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:57.315):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 37, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 345, in accessibleObjectFromEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 329, in normalizeIAccessible
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1111, in QueryService

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:04:57.410):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 885, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 618, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 59, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 188, in findBestAPIClass
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyc", line 439, in kwargsFromSuper
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:04:57.930):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 199, in <module>
File "core.pyc", line 391, in main
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 8657, in MainLoop
File "wx\_core.pyc", line 7952, in MainLoop
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 655, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 69, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 554, in __init__
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 905, in getIAccIdentity
File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1078, in QueryInterface

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (14:04:58.053):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyc", line 361, in Notify
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 873, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 655, in processFocusWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyc", line 530, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 43, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 76, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 385, in
findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyc", line 34, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyc", line 110, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyc", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:04:58.841):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:04:58.859):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x0423D310>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:04:58.926):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x0420B950>
IO - speech.speak (14:04:59.483):
Speaking
[u'about:reader?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtogeek.com%2F219782%2Fis-windows-10-backwards-compatible-with-your-existing-software%2F

document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:04:59.489):
Speaking [u'separator']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:05:00.967):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:05:00.999):
Speaking [u'5-7 minutes']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:05:01.601):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:05:01.664):
Speaking [u'separator']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:05:01.961):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:05:02.039):
Speaking [u'Microsoft\u2019s Windows 10\xa0seems like a big change. The
version number alone is a big leap from Windows ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:05:04.568):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:05:04.612):
Speaking [u'7, and most of the default apps are new-style \u201cuniversal

apps,\u201d not traditional desktop apps.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:05:04.907):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+a
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:05:04.928):
Adding generator 4
IO - speech.speak (14:05:04.946):
Speaking [IndexCommand(1), u'7, and most of the default apps are new-style

\u201cuniversal apps,\u201d not traditional desktop apps.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:04.973):
Speaking [IndexCommand(2), u'But, if you depend on traditional Windows
desktop applications, you shouldn\u2019t worry. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.013):
Speaking [u'Don\u2019t let ', IndexCommand(3), u'Windows 10\u2019s new
look fool you \u2014 if an application ran on Windows 7, it should also
run on Windows ', IndexCommand(4), u'10.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.061):
Speaking [IndexCommand(5), u'heading level 2', u'Under the Hood,
It\u2019s Similar to Windows 7 and 8']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.062):
Speaking [IndexCommand(6), u'Yes, ', u'link', u'Windows 10', u' can run
traditional Windows desktop applications. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.108):
Speaking [u'Windows 10 is very similar to ', IndexCommand(7), u'Windows 8

under the hood, and Windows 8 was very similar to Windows 7. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.164):
Speaking [u'There are no huge ', IndexCommand(8), u'application security
model or driver architecture changes, as there were when moving from
Windows ', IndexCommand(9), u'XP to Windows Vista, or Windows XP to
Windows 7.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.186):
Speaking [IndexCommand(10), u'In other words, if it runs on Windows 7 or
8, it\u2019s almost guaranteed to run on Windows 10.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:05.230):
Speaking [IndexCommand(11), u'Yes, Windows 10 includes a whole new
application model, but traditional Windows desktop ', IndexCommand(12),
u'applications run side-by-side with those new applications.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:09.355):
Speaking [IndexCommand(13), u'heading level 2', u'Windows RT is Gone']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:11.638):
Speaking [IndexCommand(14), u'Microsoft has even killed off ', u'link',
u'Windows RT', u', so even Microsoft\u2019s Surface 3 can now run
traditional ', IndexCommand(15), u'desktop applications, although the
Surface 2 couldn\u2019t.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:12.009):
Speaking [IndexCommand(16), u'All Windows laptops and tablets 8 inches or

larger in size\xa0have access to the full Windows desktop. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:13.591):
Speaking [IndexCommand(17), u'Windows 10 devices under 8 inches in size
run \u201cWindows Mobile,\u201d and don\u2019t have a desktop. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:16.010):
Speaking [u'This is a ', IndexCommand(18), u'bit different from Windows 8,

where there were 7-inch tablets with a full Windows desktop. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:19.917):
Speaking [u'But, if ', IndexCommand(19), u'you\u2019re looking at a
7.9-inch Windows tablet, you probably don\u2019t\xa0want to run
desktop\xa0apps on it ', IndexCommand(20), u'anyway.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:23.911):
Speaking [IndexCommand(21), u'heading level 2', u'Compatibility Modes']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:25.711):
Speaking [IndexCommand(22), u'Like Windows 7, Windows 10 does have ',
u'link', u'\u201ccompatibility mode\u201d options', u'\xa0that\xa0trick
applications into ', IndexCommand(23), u'thinking they\u2019re running on

older versions of Windows. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:27.301):
Speaking [u'Many older Windows desktop programs will run ',
IndexCommand(24), u'fine when using this mode, even if they wouldn\u2019t

otherwise.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:34.357):
Speaking [IndexCommand(25), u'Windows 10 will automatically enable
compatibility options if it detects an application that needs ',
IndexCommand(26), u'them, but you can also enable these compatibility
options by right-clicking an application\u2019s .exe ', IndexCommand(27),

u'file or shortcut, selecting Properties, clicking the Compatibility tab,

and selecting a version of ', IndexCommand(28), u'Windows the program
worked properly on. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:36.480):
Speaking [u'If you\u2019re not sure what the problem is, the
\u201ccompatibility ', IndexCommand(29), u'troubleshooter\u201d can walk
you through choosing optimal settings.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:40.947):
Speaking [IndexCommand(30), u'heading level 2', u'What Won\u2019t Run']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:40.947):
Speaking [IndexCommand(31), u'A few things that did work in previous
versions of Windows won\u2019t work properly on Windows 10.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:41.305):
Speaking [IndexCommand(32), u'Any application or hardware that requires an

old driver will be a problem. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:44.464):
Speaking [u'If you depend on an ', IndexCommand(33), u'application that
interfaces with a Windows XP-era hardware device and the manufacturer has

never ', IndexCommand(34), u'provided a driver that works on Windows 7,
you\u2019re likely in trouble. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:46.615):
Speaking [u'On the other hand, if there is ', IndexCommand(35), u'a driver

that does work on Windows 7, your hardware should continue working
properly on Windows 10.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:50.101):
Speaking [IndexCommand(36), u'Any application that only worked on Windows

XP and broke in the upgrade to Windows 7 also won\u2019t ',
IndexCommand(37), u'work on Windows 10 \u2014 don\u2019t expect it
to.\xa0']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:52.040):
Speaking [u'The Professional versions of Windows 10 don\u2019t offer the
', IndexCommand(38), u'\u201cXP Mode\u201d feature Microsoft offered in
Windows 7. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:58.025):
Speaking [u'If you absolutely do depend on Windows XP ', IndexCommand(39),

u'software that doesn\u2019t run properly on Windows 7 or newer versions
of Windows, you can ', u'link', u'set up\xa0your ', IndexCommand(40),
u'link', u'own Windows XP virtual machine', u'.']
IO - speech.speak (14:05:58.801):
Speaking [IndexCommand(41), u'16-bit applications \u2014 that is, any
application left over from the Windows 3.1 era \u2014 also won\u2019t work

', IndexCommand(42), u'on 64-bit versions of Windows 10. If you had a
32-bit version of Windows 7, they would run on that. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:03.009):
Speaking [IndexCommand(43), u'If you do depend on ancient 16-bit
applications, be sure you install the 32-bit version of Windows ',
IndexCommand(44), u'10. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:05.165):
Speaking [u'This is just like with Windows 7 \u2014 16-bit applications
wouldn\u2019t run on 64-bit versions of ', IndexCommand(45), u'Windows 7,

either. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:07.681):
Speaking [u'Try to run a 16-bit application on the 64-bit version of
Windows 10 and you\u2019ll ', IndexCommand(46), u'see a \u201cThis app
can\u2019t run on your PC\u201d message.']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:12.226):
Speaking [IndexCommand(47), u'heading level 2', u'How to Find Out if an
Application is Compatible']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:14.155):
Speaking [IndexCommand(48), u'Microsoft offers an Upgrade Advisor that
scans your system and informs you\xa0if it finds any ', IndexCommand(49),

u'applications or hardware devices that won\u2019t work properly\xa0on
Windows 10. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:18.730):
Speaking [u'This is built into the new ', IndexCommand(50), u'\u201cGet
Windows 10\u201d application that\u2019s been rolled\xa0out to Windows 7
and Windows 8.1 users via Windows ', IndexCommand(51), u'Update. Click ',

u'link', u'the \u201cGet Windows 10\u201d icon in your system tray', u'
and go through the process.']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:25.082):
Speaking [IndexCommand(52), u'If you have important applications that you

use for business purposes or anything else ', IndexCommand(53),
u'irreplaceable, you should consider contacting the developer or company
that produced them and ', IndexCommand(54), u'asking if the applications
will be compatible with Windows 10. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:06:27.230):
Speaking [u'These applications\xa0should be if they ', IndexCommand(55),
u'were compatible with ', u'link', u'Windows 7', u' and 8.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:32.413):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:32.520):
Speaking [u'10. This is just like with Windows 7 \u2014 16-bit
applications wouldn\u2019t run on 64-bit versions of ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:33.025):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:33.081):
Speaking [u'If you do depend on ancient 16-bit applications, be sure you
install the 32-bit version of Windows ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:35.910):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:35.980):
Speaking [u'on 64-bit versions of Windows 10. If you had a 32-bit version

of Windows 7, they would run on that. ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:37.660):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:37.721):
Speaking [u'16-bit applications \u2014 that is, any application left over

from the Windows 3.1 era \u2014 also won\u2019t work ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:40.487):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:40.573):
Speaking [u'link', u'own Windows XP virtual machine', u'.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:42.144):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:42.203):
Speaking [u'16-bit applications \u2014 that is, any application left over

from the Windows 3.1 era \u2014 also won\u2019t work ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:45.171):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:45.226):
Speaking [u'on 64-bit versions of Windows 10. If you had a 32-bit version

of Windows 7, they would run on that. ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:48.292):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:48.351):
Speaking [u'If you do depend on ancient 16-bit applications, be sure you
install the 32-bit version of Windows ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:51.187):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:51.272):
Speaking [u'10. This is just like with Windows 7 \u2014 16-bit
applications wouldn\u2019t run on 64-bit versions of ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:53.973):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:54.039):
Speaking [u'Windows 7, either. Try to run a 16-bit application on the
64-bit version of Windows 10 and you\u2019ll ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:56.739):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:56.801):
Speaking [u'see a \u201cThis app can\u2019t run on your PC\u201d
message.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:06:58.246):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:06:58.312):
Speaking [u'heading level 2', u'How to Find Out if an Application is
Compatible']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:00.055):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:00.104):
Speaking [u'Microsoft offers an Upgrade Advisor that scans your system and

informs you\xa0if it finds any ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:02.418):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+k
IO - speech.speak (14:07:02.520):
Speaking [u'set up\xa0your own Windows XP virtual machine', u'link']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:03.230):
Input: kb(laptop):shift+k
IO - speech.speak (14:07:03.359):
Speaking [u'\u201ccompatibility mode\u201d options', u'link']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:04.049):
Input: kb(laptop):k
IO - speech.speak (14:07:04.134):
Speaking [u'set up\xa0your own Windows XP virtual machine', u'link']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:04.450):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:07:04.803):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:07:05.413):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:07:05.486):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x0420B950>
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:08.334):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:07:11.467):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x041008D0>
IO - speech.speak (14:07:17.878):
Speaking [u'How to Get Windows XP Mode on Windows 8 document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:17.903):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:20.395):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:21.642):
Speaking
[u'wyciwyg://15/https://www.howtogeek.com/171395/how-to-get-windows-xp-mode-on-windows-8/']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:26.973):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+t
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:38.717):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:39.707):
Speaking [u'How to Get Windows XP Mode on Windows 8 - Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:39.956):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'graphic clickable', u'ci']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:42.867):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:44.289):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:46.864):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+control+r
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(14:07:47.384):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147220995, 'Object is not connected

to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:07:48.548):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:07:48.565):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x041008D0>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:07:48.782):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x0423D670>
IO - speech.speak (14:07:49.082):
Speaking [u'How to Get Windows XP Mode on Windows 8 document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:49.088):
Speaking [u'visited link', u'howtogeek.com']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:51.292):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:51.378):
Speaking [u'visited link', u'howtogeek.com']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:51.704):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:51.795):
Speaking [u'heading level 1', u'How to Get Windows XP Mode on Windows
8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:52.489):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:52.540):
Speaking [u'By Chris Hoffman on September 1st, 2013']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:52.992):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:53.061):
Speaking [u'5-6 minutes']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:53.677):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:53.740):
Speaking [u'separator']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:54.058):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:54.582):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:54.813):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'windows-xp-mode-on-windows-8']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:54.859):
Speaking [u'separator']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:55.255):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:55.325):
Speaking [u'5-6 minutes']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:56.198):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+l
IO - speech.speak (14:07:56.223):
Speaking [u'5-6 minutes']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:56.358):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+l
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:07:56.369):
Speaking character u'5'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:07:56.371):
Adding generator 5
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:07:56.398):
Speaking character u'dash'
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:07:56.740):
Speaking character u'6'
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:07:57.115):
Speaking character u'space'
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:57.243):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:57.285):
Speaking [u'separator']
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (14:07:57.286):
generator 5 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:57.456):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:57.562):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'windows-xp-mode-on-windows-8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:58.180):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:07:58.240):
Speaking [u'\u201cWindows XP Mode\u201d isn\u2019t included with Windows
8. ', u'link', u'Microsoft will soon be discontinuing support for ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:07:59.134):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+a
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:07:59.144):
Adding generator 6
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.167):
Speaking [IndexCommand(1), u'\u201cWindows XP Mode\u201d isn\u2019t
included with Windows 8. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.193):
Speaking [u'link', u'Microsoft will soon be discontinuing support for ',
IndexCommand(2), u'link', u'Windows XP', u' and doesn\u2019t want anyone
using it, even in a virtual machine. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.216):
Speaking [u'However, you can easily set ', IndexCommand(3), u'up your own

Windows XP mode in Windows 8.']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.256):
Speaking [IndexCommand(4), u'You can virtualize Windows XP with almost any

virtual machine program, but we\u2019ll cover a solution ',
IndexCommand(5), u'that gives you Windows XP-mode like desktop and taskbar

integration on Windows 8.']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.290):
Speaking [IndexCommand(6), u'heading level 2', u'How Windows XP Mode
Worked']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.342):
Speaking [IndexCommand(7), u'Microsoft pitched this feature as a way to
run old applications in \u201c', u'link', u'Windows XP mode', u',\u201d
but it\u2019s not ', IndexCommand(8), u'just another ', u'link', u'Windows

compatibility feature', u'. On Windows 7, Windows XP mode is actually full

copy of ', IndexCommand(9), u'the Windows XP operating system running in
Microsoft\u2019s Virtual PC virtualization software. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:07:59.377):
Speaking [IndexCommand(10), u'Applications you install in Windows XP mode

run inside the Windows XP virtual machine.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:01.395):
Speaking [IndexCommand(11), u'Microsoft one-upped their competitors by
including a fully licensed copy of Windows XP, offering a ',
IndexCommand(12), u'nicer experience than installing Windows XP in
VirtualBox and having all your old Windows XP ', IndexCommand(13),
u'applications confined to the virtual machine window.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:05.282):
Speaking [IndexCommand(14), u'Windows XP mode isn\u2019t available on
Windows 8, but you can reproduce it pretty closely with VMware ',
IndexCommand(15), u'Player. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:07.388):
Speaking [u'You could also use VirtualBox or another virtual machine
solutions, like the ', u'link', u'Hyper-V ', IndexCommand(16), u'link',
u'virtualization feature', u' included with Windows 8. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:10.821):
Speaking [u'However, VMware Player offers Windows XP-mode-like ',
IndexCommand(17), u'integration features \u2014 you can create direct
shortcuts to Windows XP applications and have unique ', IndexCommand(18),

u'taskbar icons for each virtualized program.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:15.397):
Speaking [IndexCommand(19), u'Windows 8 doesn\u2019t include a licensed
copy of Windows XP, so you\u2019ll need a copy of Windows XP to set ',
IndexCommand(20), u'this up. If you have an old Windows XP disc lying
around, it will do. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:17.862):
Speaking [u'VMware Player is completely ', IndexCommand(21), u'free. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:20.072):
Speaking [u'Unlike Windows XP mode, which was only available for
Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise ', IndexCommand(22), u'editions of

Windows 7, you can set this up on any edition of Windows 8.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:24.451):
Speaking [IndexCommand(23), u'Note that VMware Player is only free for
home users, so you may want to use ', u'link', u'VirtualBox', u' or
upgrade ', IndexCommand(24), u'to the paid ', u'link', u'VMware
Workstation', u' if you need Windows XP Mode for business purposes.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:27.969):
Speaking [IndexCommand(25), u'heading level 2', u'Setting Up Windows XP
Mode With VMware Player']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:27.970):
Speaking [IndexCommand(26), u'First, download and install ', u'link',
u'VMware Player', u' on your computer. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:30.227):
Speaking [u'Once it\u2019s installed, launch it and ', IndexCommand(27),
u'create a new virtual machine. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:32.852):
Speaking [u'Go through the setup process, providing either a Windows XP ',

IndexCommand(28), u'installation disc or a Windows XP disc image in ISO
format.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:36.234):
Speaking [IndexCommand(29), u'graphic', u'create-new-virtual-machine']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:36.236):
Speaking [IndexCommand(30), u'Enter your product key, username, password,

and other information. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:40.967):
Speaking [u'VMware Player will automatically ', IndexCommand(31),
u'install Windows XP inside the virtual machine, so you won\u2019t have to

do anything during the ', IndexCommand(32), u'installation process. ']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:45.117):
Speaking [u'Just wait and let the process complete on its own \u2014
VMware Player will handle ', IndexCommand(33), u'everything, including
installing the VMware Tools package that enables the desktop integration
', IndexCommand(34), u'features.']
IO - speech.speak (14:08:49.519):
Speaking [IndexCommand(35), u'graphic',
u'install-windows-xp-on-windows-8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:51.164):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:51.252):
Speaking [u'to the paid ', u'link', u'VMware Workstation', u' if you need

Windows XP Mode for business purposes.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:52.522):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:52.579):
Speaking [u'Note that VMware Player is only free for home users, so you
may want to use ', u'link', u'VirtualBox', u' or upgrade ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:55.137):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:55.206):
Speaking [u'to the paid ', u'link', u'VMware Workstation', u' if you need

Windows XP Mode for business purposes.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:57.953):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:58.023):
Speaking [u'heading level 2', u'Setting Up Windows XP Mode With VMware
Player']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:58.680):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:58.749):
Speaking [u'to the paid ', u'link', u'VMware Workstation', u' if you need

Windows XP Mode for business purposes.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:08:58.969):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:08:59.028):
Speaking [u'Note that VMware Player is only free for home users, so you
may want to use ', u'link', u'VirtualBox', u' or upgrade ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:00.871):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:00.918):
Speaking [u'to the paid ', u'link', u'VMware Workstation', u' if you need

Windows XP Mode for business purposes.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:01.059):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:01.112):
Speaking [u'heading level 2', u'Setting Up Windows XP Mode With VMware
Player']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:03.015):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:03.096):
Speaking [u'First, download and install ', u'link', u'VMware Player', u'
on your computer. Once it\u2019s installed, launch it and ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:05.617):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:05.680):
Speaking [u'create a new virtual machine. Go through the setup process,
providing either a Windows XP ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:08.091):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:08.167):
Speaking [u'installation disc or a Windows XP disc image in ISO format.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:09.951):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:10.052):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'create-new-virtual-machine']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:10.503):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:10.569):
Speaking [u'Enter your product key, username, password, and other
information. VMware Player will automatically ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:12.585):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:12.645):
Speaking [u'install Windows XP inside the virtual machine, so you
won\u2019t have to do anything during the ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:14.921):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:15.005):
Speaking [u'installation process. Just wait and let the process complete
on its own \u2014 VMware Player will handle ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:15.917):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:15.977):
Speaking [u'everything, including installing the VMware Tools package that

enables the desktop integration ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:18.289):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:18.361):
Speaking [u'features.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:19.033):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:19.138):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'install-windows-xp-on-windows-8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:19.858):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:19.931):
Speaking [u'heading level 2', u'Integrating Windows XP with Windows 8']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:21.497):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:21.562):
Speaking [u'To make your Windows XP system integrate with Windows 8, click

the Player menu in VMware Player and ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:24.043):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:24.105):
Speaking [u'select Unity. This enables a special mode where your Windows
XP applications will run on your ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:26.505):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:26.563):
Speaking [u'Windows 8 desktop.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:27.703):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:27.825):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'enable-unity-mode']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:28.368):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:28.427):
Speaking [u'Any applications you have running when you enable Unity mode
will appear on your Windows 8 desktop ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:30.812):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:30.880):
Speaking [u'with their own icons on Windows 8\u2019s taskbar.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:32.418):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:32.510):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'vmare-player-windows-xp-mode']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:33.104):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:33.171):
Speaking [u'To launch applications running in Windows XP mode, move your
mouse to the lower-left corner of the ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:35.526):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:35.586):
Speaking [u'screen and use the VMware menu to launch applications from the

Windows XP system. They\u2019ll appear on ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:38.265):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:38.342):
Speaking [u'your Windows 8 desktop, too.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:39.539):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:39.638):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'vmware-unity-menu']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:40.144):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:40.210):
Speaking [u'To create direct links to such applications, right-click their

shortcuts in the VMware launcher ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:42.509):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:42.576):
Speaking [u'menu and select Create Shortcut on Desktop. You\u2019ll get a

shortcut you can click to launch the ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:44.871):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:44.927):
Speaking [u'application.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:45.654):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:45.716):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'vmware-create-shortcut-on-desktop']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:46.138):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:46.207):
Speaking [u'At any time, you can click the Windows XP menu and select Exit

Unity to disable Unity mode and ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:48.680):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:48.752):
Speaking [u'confine your Windows XP applications to a single virtual
machine window.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:50.915):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:50.993):
Speaking [u'VMware Player automatically sets up drag-and-drop and
copy-and-paste integration, so you\u2019ll be able ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:51.125):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:51.178):
Speaking [u'to use the applications much like they were running inside
Windows 8. However, they aren\u2019t running ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:51.568):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:51.635):
Speaking [u'VMware Player automatically sets up drag-and-drop and
copy-and-paste integration, so you\u2019ll be able ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:54.184):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:54.247):
Speaking [u'to use the applications much like they were running inside
Windows 8. However, they aren\u2019t running ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:56.536):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:56.595):
Speaking [u'in Windows 8, so they won\u2019t have access to the every file

on your Windows 8 system. You may want to ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:09:58.710):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:09:58.776):
Speaking [u'set up shared folders from the virtual machine\u2019s settings

window so you can share files between ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:01.032):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:01.085):
Speaking [u'your Windows 8 system and Windows XP applications.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:02.651):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:02.711):
Speaking [u'graphic', u'vmwater-player-shared-folders']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:03.155):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:03.230):
Speaking [u'separator']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:03.746):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:03.815):
Speaking [u'It\u2019s a shame Microsoft removed this feature from Windows

8, but it\u2019s clear why they did. Microsoft ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:06.032):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:06.105):
Speaking [u'no longer wants to support Windows XP, not even in a virtual
machine. Windows XP mode was a feature ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:08.938):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:09.012):
Speaking [u'for business customers to feel confident upgrading from
Windows XP \u2014 they could feel confident ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:11.342):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:11.413):
Speaking [u'upgrading to Windows 7, knowing that any applications that
experienced problems could just be run ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:13.960):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:14.020):
Speaking [u'in Windows XP mode.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:15.043):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:15.125):
Speaking [u'However, Windows XP mode isn\u2019t forever \u2014 Microsoft
wants businesses to upgrade their applications ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:17.648):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:17.709):
Speaking [u'and ensure they\u2019ll continue to work on newer versions of

Windows rather than depending on Windows ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:19.924):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:19.996):
Speaking [u'XP forever. It\u2019s a good idea to upgrade to applications
that work on modern versions of Windows and ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:22.576):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:22.635):
Speaking [u'not depend on a Windows XP virtual machine, but other
virtualization programs will continue to ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:25.243):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:25.303):
Speaking [u'provide a failsafe option even while Microsoft no longer
offers Windows XP Mode.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:27.654):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:27.734):
Speaking [u'button', u'Close Reader View']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:29.006):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:29.078):
Speaking [u'button', u'Type controls']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:30.082):
Input: kb(laptop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:30.157):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'button', u'Narrate']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:30.573):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:30.641):
Speaking [u'button', u'Type controls']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:30.842):
Input: kb(laptop):upArrow
IO - speech.speak (14:10:30.894):
Speaking [u'button', u'Close Reader View']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:31.410):
Input: kb(laptop):rightArrow
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (14:10:31.454):
Speaking character u'l'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (14:10:31.456):
Adding generator 7
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (14:10:31.457):
generator 7 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:33.709):
Input: kb(laptop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:10:36.066):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:10:36.072):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x0423D670>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:10:36.141):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x04425AD0>
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:40.961):
Input: kb(laptop):alt+home
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 736 (firefox.exe) (14:10:42.802):
Thread 5596, build\x86\vbufBase\storage.cpp,
VBufStorage_buffer_t::insertNode, 406:
Cannot insert a NULL node. Returning false

DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 736 (firefox.exe) (14:10:42.808):
Thread 5596, build\x86\vbufBase\storage.cpp,
VBufStorage_buffer_t::replaceSubtrees, 629:
Error inserting node. Skipping

DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 736 (firefox.exe) (14:10:42.838):
Thread 5596, build\x86\vbufBase\backend.cpp, VBufBackend_t::update, 210:
Error replacing one or more subtrees

IO - speech.speak (14:10:43.766):
Speaking [u'document busy']
IO - speech.speak (14:10:43.780):
Speaking [u'link', u'graphic', u'How-To Geek', u' ']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(14:10:44.871):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147220995, 'Object is not
connected to server', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:10:44.880):
Killed treeInterceptor: <virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at
0x04425AD0>
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:10:44.910):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable:
<virtualBuffers.gecko_ia2.Gecko_ia2 object at 0x041008D0>
IO - speech.speak (14:10:44.984):
Speaking [u'edit']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IA2TextTextInfo._getCaretOffset
(14:10:45.015):
IAccessibleText::caretOffset failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 151, in
_getCaretOffset
COMError: (-2147220995, 'Object is not connected to server', (None, None,

None, 0, None))
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:10:45.061):
error executing event: gainFocus on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionEditorMozillaIAccessible

object at 0x04425DB0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File
"C:\Users\joshk\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\wintenApps\globalPlugins\wintenObjs\__init__.py",

line 296, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "appModules\firefox.pyc", line 24, in event_stateChange
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 167, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 907, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 819, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyc", line 367, in speakObject
File "speech.pyc", line 689, in speakTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyc", line 340, in
getTextWithFields
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\ia2TextMozilla.pyc", line 289, in
_getText
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'obj'
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IA2TextTextInfo._getCaretOffset
(14:10:45.089):
IAccessibleText::caretOffset failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 151, in
_getCaretOffset
COMError: (-2147220995, 'Object is not connected to server', (None, None,

None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (14:10:45.654):
Speaking [u'Google - Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (14:10:45.723):
Speaking [u'clickable', u'Search combo box collapsed editable has auto

complete']
IO - speech.speak (14:10:45.789):
Speaking [u'Google document']
IO - speech.speak (14:10:45.802):
Speaking [u'combo box collapsed editable has auto complete']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:48.918):
Input: kb(laptop):control+home
IO - speech.speak (14:10:49.049):
Speaking [u'link', u'Gmail']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:10:51.301):
Input: kb(laptop):NVDA+f1
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(14:10:51.938):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Gmail'
role: ROLE_LINK
states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_LINKED, STATE_FOCUSED
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at
0x04425510>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla'>,
<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.ia2Web.Ia2Web'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>,
<type 'object'>)
description: u''
location: (772, 88, 34, 24)
value: u'https://mail.google.com/mail/?tab=wm'
appModule: <'firefox' (appName u'firefox', process ID 736) at address
423daf0>
appModule.productName: u'Firefox'
appModule.productVersion: u'54.0'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IA2TextTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 262892L
windowClassName: u'MozillaWindowClass'
windowControlID: 0
windowStyle: 399441920
windowThreadID: 5596
windowText: u'Google - Mozilla Firefox'
displayText: u''
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x155c10c at 42c68f0>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=262892, objectID=-4,
childID=-3159
IAccessible accName: u'Gmail'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE,
STATE_SYSTEM_LINKED, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (5242884)
IAccessible accDescription: u''
IAccessible accValue: u'https://mail.google.com/mail/?tab=wm'
IAccessible2 windowHandle: 262892
IAccessible2 uniqueID: -3159
IAccessible2 role: ROLE_SYSTEM_LINK
IAccessible2 states: IA2_STATE_SELECTABLE_TEXT (4096)
IAccessible2 attributes:
u'margin-left:0px;text-align:right;draggable:true;text-indent:0px;formatting:block;margin-right:0px;tag:a;class:gb_P;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;display:inline-block;'




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Re: microsoft api voices

Leo
 

hi, apparently this is going to be fixed,

but for now you can go to settings, windows key plus i, time and language, speech and once there adjust speed rate.



Leo
El 18/6/2017 a las 10:30, Greg Wocher escribió:

Hello,
I am using the master branch and the newer microsoft voices are in it. The only issue I have is that they are very, very slow. Is there going to be the ability to speed them up at all? Even at 100% speed they are still so slow I don’t want to use them.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Jun 18, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

In the last version or so of "Next" snapshots of NVDA (like Alpha test builds) we've added the ability to use the Microsoft OneCore (mobile) voices that come with Windows 10.  If you are happy to play with a maybe not polished version of NVDA, you can download the latest "Next" build from here: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Otherwise, sit tight and it should make its way into 2017.3 later this year.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] microsoft api voices


Is there a way to add more Microsoft API version 5 voices to use with NVDA?  Right now there are only two voices available under the syn choices of NVDA.  I am running the latest version of NVDA and Win 10 64 bit.
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Re: I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

Rui Fontes
 

Other use is in Excel, where it holds the focus in the actual cell, and pressing arrows the focus do not leave that cell, but all spreadsheet moves...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 18 de junho de 2017 13:07
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community


It was used to stop information from changing on the screen if there was too much for one screen. For example, the dir command would show all the folders and files on your computer if you issued it with an additional modification, using something called a switch. That would be far more information than one screen. Scrol lock would stop the information wherever it was when you turned it on. Then when you wanted to see more, you would press scroll lock again, thus turning it off. Scrolling would resume.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

What even was! back in the days, even if it didn't really do us visually impaired people any good, the scroll lock used for?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

The scroll lock isn't part of the six pack. I don't know how many laptops may have a scroll lock key. My laptop either doesn't have one or requires some sort of fn plus key combination. The keys on the six pack are, from left to right on a standard keyboard, and moving from top to bottom of each column, insert and delete, home and end, page up and page down.

On a standard keyboard, the scroll lock is the middle key in the three key cluster to the right of the twelve function keys. I've never heard of it being used in Windows. I recall it was used in DOS but my guess is that many keyboards built into Windows laptops may not have such a key or a combination of keys for it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 8:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community


out of curiousity what are the actual keys on that 6 pack?


I know that there is a print screen key and the scroll lock but what are the other ones?

On 6/17/2017 2:59 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:


Heh, and Chris, for what it's worth, you can use the program mentioned in Jake's post (below) to remap the scroll lock key to be the context if you have one of those. That might solve the problem, since nobody seems to use the scroll lock key for anything useful in most cases.




On 6/17/2017 5:02 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:


This page speaks about how to use autoHotKey to remap the right alt key to be used as the context menu/applications context key:

https://superuser.com/questions/710601/how-to-map-right-alt-to-context-menu-key/710609




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On 2017-06-17 22:51, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

That isn't entirely altogether true.

When you, like me, have physical motor and dexterity issues in your hands which prevent you from doing things effectively the way you have describe...

No offense by this intended, and I hope none taken, but please consider those like myself who may have other physical limitations which prevent them from doing certain things as you would. This isn't me, but what about those with cognative issues as well, who find reaching a key like that to be hard, if not impossible.

I mean this with the utmost of respect.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa Jean
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community

Everything is awkward when you first go to do it. It was weird at
first for me to have to reach up and to the right instead of hitting a
button right next to my spacebar, but I got used to it. It is all up
to how you chose to deal with it.

On 6/17/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <@AHeart4God316> wrote:
I suppose I could! technically remap scrollock or printscreen, but again,
those keys are really awquard to get to on this thing.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Melissa Jean
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community


I'm not familiar with all of the keys available with that model since
I didn't bother to look it up, but when I got my new keyboard I had
the same sort of issue. There was an FN key in the spot where the
applications key was. I used sharp keys to remap my scroll lock key
for the applications key. I've never in my many years, sighted and non
sighted, used that group of keys for anything, lol. I use to use print
screen, but that is it.

Melissa

On 6/17/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <@AHeart4God316> wrote:
> Travis,
>
> This won't work.
>
> I'd have to be using either screen review, or object nav for this to
work,
> and yes, you are correct on your assumption that some apps interpret
the
> apps key different from a right click. It's rare, I'll grant you that,
but
> it does happen.
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>
> http://www.gshministry.org
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Travis Siegel
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] I have a favor to ask of the NVDA user community
>
>
> I seem to recall from somewhere that the applications key is the
same
as a
> right click, so you could try pressing the NVDA key for right click,
and
see
> if it brings up the same menu for you. I've never bothered to test
this
> assertion, so I could be wrong, and it's of course possible that some
> programs specifically look for the applications key (if that's
possible),
> and so a right click wouldn't do the trick, but it's worth trying.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/17/2017 3:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>
> OK, this is a little bit of a unique situation, but I'm sure I'm
> probably not the only person who's run into this predicament.
>
> I have an HP laptop which more specifically is the HP 250G5.
>
> Though this system is absolutely incredible, I love it, there is
one
> thing, and really only! about one thing, that I do not like about it.
>
> Unfortunately, this system has no physical application's key.
Trust
me.
> I've gone into keyboard help, and have practically hit everything
under
the
> sun! It's not even something where holding down FN along with another
key
> will do it. I even have gone so far as to get ahold of HP, and they
> confirmed that the key doesn't exist on this model.
>
> A few possibilities therefore are an external keyboard that has
this
> key. Well, there went my portability.
>
> The other would be to hit shift+F10 to open the context menu on
the
> focused item. Normally 99.9 percent of the time, this would be OK,
but,
my
> keys F1 through F10 are not spaced apart tacticly, and I'm a very firm
> believer in not putting dots on my keys. To me, that just feels
utterly
> disgusting, and I always shutter when working with students who's keys
are
> that way. If it helps you, great! Do it, but for me, it makes it more
> confusing.
>
> This leads me to my final sollution, which is why I'm writing you
all
> today.
>
> I'm aware of the program called Sharpkeys, but the issue with that
is,
> it will only let you map a key to another single key. Well, I don't
have
> another key on this machine that I could substitute that wouldn't feel
very
> awquard.
>
> I know what I'd like to use.
>
> I'd like for Alt+Shift+Spacebar to press the applications key at
the
> currently focused item. Basically Alt+Shift+Space to be the same as me
> hitting the application's key.
>
> Can this be done in an addon, and if so, is this something that
someone
> up here would be willing to put together for me?
>
> I admittedly don't know programming that well, let alone
specifically
> Python, so forgive me.
>
> I know Joseph Lee would say, perhaps this should be sent to the
NVDA
> addon list instead, but, I'd rather honestly not join that list for
now,
as
> I'm not an NVDA dev, nor really have any intention at this time of
being
so.
> I think the list would get overwhelming, and I already have enough
e-mail as
> is.
>
> Like I say, I can't imagine this would be too terribly hard to do
> compared to a lot of other addons.
>
> Literally, all I need it to do is globally hit the application's
key,
> not shift F10, let me be very very transparent on that fact. I have an
app I
> use that certain places require the applications key, and Shift+F10
won't
> work in those areas. It *has* to be the apps key.
>
> Wouldn't it just be a matter of coding an if/then statement
routine
that
> says something to the effect of:
>
> IF keyinput=("alt+shift+space")
> THEN Presskey("applicationskey");
>
> OK, I know that's not literally how the source would look, nor was
I
> trying to make it such.
>
> I was trying, more or less, to make the point of saying, I don't
think
> this should be hard based on the little programming I know, which
again,
is
> more than enough to commit suicide on myself.
>
> If it's not quite that easy, then just tell me to shut up. LOL! NO
> seriously, don't do that, LOL, but, you get my point.
>
> Right now, I'm gonna be very straight up. This isn't something I
could
> pay an addon creator to make, however, given what I'm guessing to be
the
> symplisity of this, I'd not suspect it would be terribly hard to do.
I'd
not
> think it would take but maybe 10 or so minutes to write, if even that.
>
> If we were talking JAWS, I could have this done in about 2 minutes
or
> less with the script manager, but, alas, we're not so.
>
> Again, to clarify, I'd want this done globally throughout the OS,
so
> regardless the window, I'm in, it would work.
>
> Windows 10 64 Bit Creator Edition Professional, if that matters.
>
> NVDA 2017.2, again, if that matters. This is a full install, not a
> portable, and yes, I do have administrator access, and U A C is
disabled
> entirely, in case the API's for this to work require it.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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Re: NVDA on a Windows tablet

Rui Fontes
 

Windows S is a competitor of Chrome OS, and only runs apps from the shop...
As far as I know, impaired people can freely upgrade to Windows 10...

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Brian's Mail list account
Data: 18 de junho de 2017 14:10
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Windows tablet

No windows 10S will not run any third party software so nvda is out. I do
not understand though why they are doing this at all.
Seems counter intuitive to me.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on a Windows tablet


Hi


Apart from the specs specified in the user manual you should be ok.


By the way if you are getting a tablet get the x86 version of Windows not the RT version which is found on some tablets and windows phones.


There is a new version of windows for schools i do not think it works on that version but if i remember right if it is upgraded to the full version of windows it will.

But some one else might know more. I would say at this point even if it was upgraded the windows 10 S version i would say know but others might know more on the list.


the link to the article is https://www.nvaccess.org/post/why-cant-nvda-run-on-windows-10-mobile-and-windows-10-s/

gene nz


There is a article that explains it.



On 18/06/2017 11:32 AM, Don H wrote:
How well does NVDA work on a Windows based tablet? Are there any minimum specs for a tablet to work well with NVDA?
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Re: microsoft api voices

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I am using the master branch and the newer microsoft voices are in it. The only issue I have is that they are very, very slow. Is there going to be the ability to speed them up at all? Even at 100% speed they are still so slow I don’t want to use them.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Jun 18, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

In the last version or so of "Next" snapshots of NVDA (like Alpha test builds) we've added the ability to use the Microsoft OneCore (mobile) voices that come with Windows 10.  If you are happy to play with a maybe not polished version of NVDA, you can download the latest "Next" build from here: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  Otherwise, sit tight and it should make its way into 2017.3 later this year.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes you can buy them from all sorts of places. Most are not free.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 3:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] microsoft api voices


Is there a way to add more Microsoft API version 5 voices to use with NVDA?  Right now there are only two voices available under the syn choices of NVDA.  I am running the latest version of NVDA and Win 10 64 bit.
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