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Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Arlene
 

Send me the link. I'll listen to the thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: June-25-17 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Chrome works fine with Win10. Dave Moore made a nice tutorial to get you started.
If you cannot find it, let me know I will send you a link as it is a large file to email.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com




Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

 

can I also get the link to the tutorial?

On 6/25/2017 3:49 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Chrome works fine with Win10. Dave Moore made a nice tutorial to get you started.
If you cannot find it, let me know I will send you a link as it is a large file to email.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com












Re: Interfering videos while browsing

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks Gene.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interfering videos while browsing

 

Hi

 

Try the following

 

In mozilla fire fox go to tools then down to add ons then press the enter key.

 

You might have to tab a couple of times, but you will be looking for a list. here you can arrow up and down the list.

 

There are 2 sections one was check the extensions and also the plugins section.

 

Go to the say add ons or extensions one then tab a couple of times. On both of them you can disable the players from starting automatically.

 

so depending what you have it might be a html 5 player, flash player, shock wave player. etc

 

You can always enable them again from there. But i think at present it will only do it when i want it to.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 6/26/2017 8:50 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

You can use audio ducking it does not stop it but you can work with it hope this helps.

On 24/06/2017 21:01, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi,

Please, any suggestion how to stop the sudden launching of videos in Firefox while reading an article or just browsing?  It is for sure annoying and makes it very difficult to continue reading.

Blessings

Pascal

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*Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:31 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Help with a Word Doc Form

Rob,

          It's also very weird how the form fields themselves are working in the form you gave the link to.  Once I land in a given field, I have to tab three times to go to the next one.  During each of those three tabs the actual size of the form field displayed changes (at least if it's blank).  This thing is a nightmare!!
-- 
/*Brian*/- Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.413

/*     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.*/

/**//*~ Niels Bohr*/



 

--

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Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Pascal Lambert
 

Chrome works fine with Win10. Dave Moore made a nice tutorial to get you started.
If you cannot find it, let me know I will send you a link as it is a large file to email.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com




Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

 

ok saved this to.

thanks for this.

On 26/06/2017 10:02 a.m., Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi,

I also suggest this utility as it restores the pull down menus to MS Office in Win10.

http://www.addintools.com/office2010/professionalplus/OfficeMenu.exe. It costs $29 and it is worth the price.

I am using it with MS Office Pro 2013.

Blessings.

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7


I don't know if this is the case in any programs or parts of Windows discussed but are any features lost by reverting in this way? I don't use Word, but it is so differently organized in ribbon versions and there are so many settings that I can't help but wonder if access to some features or settings is lost. In Windows Explorer, I gather from the little I've read that there are new functions available and again, I wonder if any are lost. But if anything is lost anywhere, that should be discussed.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@...>

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:30 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7


Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to
know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my
workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works)
UBitMenu makes itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just
activate this tab and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003
in your up-to-date copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com








Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Arlene
 

Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com




Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,

I also suggest this utility as it restores the pull down menus to MS Office in Win10.

http://www.addintools.com/office2010/professionalplus/OfficeMenu.exe.  It costs $29 and it is worth the price.

I am using it with MS Office Pro 2013.

Blessings.

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

 

I don't know if this is the case in any programs or parts of Windows discussed but are any features lost by reverting in this way?  I don't use Word, but it is so differently organized in ribbon versions and there are so many settings that I can't help but wonder if access to some features or settings is lost.  In Windows Explorer, I gather from the little I've read that there are new functions available and again, I wonder if any are lost.  But if anything is lost anywhere, that should be discussed. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

 

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to
know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my
workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
> Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
> problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
> to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
> like Windows 7.
>
> Classic Shell:
> Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
> http://www.classicshell.net/
>
> Old Task Manager:
> When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
> that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
> cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
> it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
> you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
> uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
> task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
> press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
> the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
> Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
> locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
> normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
> now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
> http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip
>
> UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works)
> UBitMenu makes itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just
> activate this tab and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003
> in your up-to-date copy of MS Office.
> Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
> reported this works with NVDA.
> http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
>
> Ribbon Disabler
> Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
> replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
> it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
> Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
> 32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
> Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
> Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
> back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
> earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
> Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
> on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
> http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip
>
> Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
> suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.
>
> Noah T. Carver
> http://noahcarver.com
>
>
>
>



Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Gene
 

I don't know if this is the case in any programs or parts of Windows discussed but are any features lost by reverting in this way?  I don't use Word, but it is so differently organized in ribbon versions and there are so many settings that I can't help but wonder if access to some features or settings is lost.  In Windows Explorer, I gather from the little I've read that there are new functions available and again, I wonder if any are lost.  But if anything is lost anywhere, that should be discussed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to
know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my
workstation will behave normally.




On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
> Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no
> problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used
> to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more
> like Windows 7.
>
> Classic Shell:
> Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
> http://www.classicshell.net/
>
> Old Task Manager:
> When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing
> that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow,
> cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get
> it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide
> you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and
> uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the
> task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next
> press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate
> the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
> Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and
> locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to
> normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You
> now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
> http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip
>
> UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works)
> UBitMenu makes itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just
> activate this tab and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003
> in your up-to-date copy of MS Office.
> Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have
> reported this works with NVDA.
> http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
>
> Ribbon Disabler
> Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer,
> replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip
> it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of
> Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a
> 32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
> Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon
> Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log
> back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran
> earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon
> Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back
> on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
> http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip
>
> Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or
> suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.
>
> Noah T. Carver
> http://noahcarver.com
>
>
>
>




Re: Interfering videos while browsing

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Try the following


In mozilla fire fox go to tools then down to add ons then press the enter key.


You might have to tab a couple of times, but you will be looking for a list. here you can arrow up and down the list.


There are 2 sections one was check the extensions and also the plugins section.


Go to the say add ons or extensions one then tab a couple of times. On both of them you can disable the players from starting automatically.


so depending what you have it might be a html 5 player, flash player, shock wave player. etc


You can always enable them again from there. But i think at present it will only do it when i want it to.


Gene nz




On 6/26/2017 8:50 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
You can use audio ducking it does not stop it but you can work with it hope this helps.

On 24/06/2017 21:01, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi,

Please, any suggestion how to stop the sudden launching of videos in Firefox while reading an article or just browsing?  It is for sure annoying and makes it very difficult to continue reading.

Blessings

Pascal

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*Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:31 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Help with a Word Doc Form

Rob,

          It's also very weird how the form fields themselves are working in the form you gave the link to.  Once I land in a given field, I have to tab three times to go to the next one.  During each of those three tabs the actual size of the form field displayed changes (at least if it's blank).  This thing is a nightmare!!
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Re: Interfering videos while browsing

Kevin Cussick
 

You can use audio ducking it does not stop it but you can work with it hope this helps.

On 24/06/2017 21:01, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi,
Please, any suggestion how to stop the sudden launching of videos in Firefox while reading an article or just browsing? It is for sure annoying and makes it very difficult to continue reading.
Blessings
Pascal
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*Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:31 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Help with a Word Doc Form
Rob,
It's also very weird how the form fields themselves are working in the form you gave the link to. Once I land in a given field, I have to tab three times to go to the next one. During each of those three tabs the actual size of the form field displayed changes (at least if it's blank). This thing is a nightmare!!
--
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Re: think something wanted to update and can't make it do it

 

I have had this happen, you can just restart nvda or go to nvda menu preffs, win10 apps, then check for update and whack that button and it will do what it will do.

On 26/06/2017 5:11 a.m., ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list was finishing up a game chat on games galore and more. my NVDA was toggled speech mode off so I didn’t have a conflict with the golf game I was playing. when I snapped it back to talk saw a yes and no button am thinking it was app essentials. when I hit yes got an error downloading addon message. what do I do to update that windows 10 app esentials and make sure that update installs properly. I think it was because of the talking communities client and the kitchen game running that messed up the update. will it prompt me again?


Re: NVDA and MS Office 365

 

Well to be honest unless you use excell I use jarte pluss and that works.

office 2010 and 2007 are still supported offices and still use bits of the older interface.

I still have an old fully legal coppy of office xp but its not going to work on 10 is it, unless there is a way.

Then again jarte and the right converters are all I need I don't need the rest.

I have heard about wps office which is a 30 dollar subscription also a free one if you don't mind your documents being marked, you can also buy a lifetime licence for 1 pc for 80 dollars, the 30 per year subscription gives you smart phone access.

Aparently its been round since 1997 and is chinese owned but I am unsure if it is accessible or not.

Its still cheaper per system than ms office is to be honest though.

Where something like 365 does come in is if you have multiple devices, use onedrive and make a lot of skype calls.

There are subscriptions that will make it worth your while.

While I have not found out how to do it with dropbox google drive has a plugin for direct saving to google drive and I have installed it.

Pluss it appears ms office has a few free programs.

sway, todo, lens and one note are all free programs for just about everything.

A standard user only needs the home version which is only about 140 dollars.

The business versions have things like powerpoint publisher, access and outlook the home version is word powerpoint and excell which is about all everyone needs to be honest.

If you do work in a company there is the home use program and this is how the family bar me use to have office on their systems.

On 26/06/2017 4:49 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
To be honest unless somebody really really needs the new stuff in every new office program, its not worth it to upgrade. many of my machines still use Word 2002 or 2003 and they do all I need. Its a great pity Microsoft used docx files but there are conversion programs for those.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MS Office 365


You can still buy Office 2016 as a standalone purchase (rather than Office
365 subscription). That works exactly the same as Office 365 for now - of
course when Office 2018 or whatever the next version is comes out, you
won't get that if you buy the full Office 2016, but in any case, NVDA works
with either variant.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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I'd always go for the boxed product myself not the sub version.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...
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Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MS Office 365


Hi,
Office 365 is the subscription service that gives you access to latest
Office builds. In other words, yes, Office 2016 is usable with NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MS Office 365

Noticed that Best Buy has Microsoft Office 365 home edition on sale today
for $79.
Does NVDA work well with Office 365?
Thanks










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Re: List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7

 

Wow, thanks for this list.

While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.

On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,

Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more like Windows 7.

Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/

Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow, cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter. Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip

UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works)
UBitMenu makes itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/

Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer, replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a 32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3". Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip

Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.

Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com



Re: Interfering videos while browsing

Laurie Mehta
 

If you are using that key combination for something else in Firefox that you had previously designated yourself, just go into the view menu and arrow to the reader view option manually and hit enter. Shouldn't that work for you even though you redesignated that key combination for your personal use?
-LM
--------------------------------------------

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Interfering videos while browsing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Sunday, June 25, 2017, 12:26 AM

Unfortunately alt/control R is being isused
for something else by me from
ages ago.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Interfering videos
while browsing


To avoid this annoyance I go into
reader view as soon as I get to an article
I want to read.
That stops any video or sound popping
up.
Then there's a button at the bottom to
use to go back to non-reader view.

To go to reader view in the newest
firefox just press control+alt+r. In
older versions, go to the view menu by
hitting alt and then arrow up to
reader view and hit enter.

HTH,
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 6/24/17, Pascal Lambert <rambeau68@...>
wrote:

Subject: [nvda] Interfering videos
while browsing
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, June 24, 2017, 1:01
PM

Hi,Please, any suggestion how to
stop the sudden launching of videos in
Firefox while reading
an article or just browsing? It is for
sure annoying and
makes it very difficult to continue
reading.BlessingsPascal From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On
Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help with a Word
Doc
Form
  Rob,

  It's also very weird
how the form fields themselves are
working in the form you
gave the link to. Once I land in a
given field, I have
to tab three times to go to the next
one. During each
of those three tabs the actual size of
the form field
displayed changes (at least if it's
blank). This
thing is a nightmare!!
--
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64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.413
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Re: An Amazon.co.uk. query

Don H
 

Just made a purchase yesterday with no problems. Maybe I do it the hard way but I simply go to the top of the page and then do a NVDA search for add and find the add to cart button. Same thing to find the proceed to checkout.

On 6/25/2017 2:41 PM, Chris wrote:
Its a add to basket button
If you use your navigation keys you will find it
*From: *Melissa Jean <mailto:Melissa.J.Hammitt@...>
*Sent: *25 June 2017 19:53
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] An Amazon.co.uk. query
I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about in regards to payment
options, but I've noticed that the add to, like add to cart or add to
list, are radio buttons and once you check they they either do it, in
the case of add to list then a dialogue box box pops up that I
generally just hit escape to get out of, or add to cart where you have
to hit the submit query (at least that is what it says for me) to add
to cart. Just a warning it doesn't make any noise or refresh the page
when I do this, I'm using latest version of firefox, but when I
refreshed the page and go to my cart it will show that I have 1 item
in there.
I noticed that when I go to check out and select to change payment or
address there are radio buttons to pick an option
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> I've not shopped on amazon for a good while, lack of funds etc!

> However they seem to have cleaned up their site a bit, but no matter
what

> Item I view after logging in, there seems to be no add to basket link or

> button. Help is as usual, no help at all.

> Now I have changed my payment card details but when I go into my account

> the correct card is shown as active so I'm in a bit of a puzzled state.

> Have they made the control something peculiar that Firefox cannot see or

> what?

> All help gratefully received.

> I do wish companies would leave their sites alone.

> Brian

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Re: An Amazon.co.uk. query

Chris
 

Its a add to basket button

If you use your navigation keys you will find it

 

 

From: Melissa Jean
Sent: 25 June 2017 19:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] An Amazon.co.uk. query

 

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about in regards to payment

options, but I've noticed that the add to, like add to cart or add to

list, are radio buttons and once you check they they either do it, in

the case of add to list then a dialogue box box pops up that I

generally just hit escape to get out of, or add to cart where you have

to hit the submit query (at least that is what it says for me) to add

to cart. Just a warning it doesn't make any noise or refresh the page

when I do this, I'm using latest version of firefox, but when I

refreshed the page and go to my cart it will show that I have 1 item

in there.

 

I noticed that when I go to check out and select to change payment or

address there are radio buttons to pick an option

 

 

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<bglists@...> wrote:

> I've not shopped on amazon for a good while, lack of funds etc!

>  However they seem to have cleaned up their site a bit, but no matter what

> Item I view after logging in, there seems to be no add to basket link or

> button. Help is as usual, no help at all.

>  Now I have changed my payment card details but when I go into my account

> the correct card is shown as active so I'm in a bit of a  puzzled state.

> Have they made the control something peculiar that Firefox cannot see or

> what?

>  All help gratefully received.

>  I do wish companies would leave their sites alone.

>  Brian

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>

 

 

 


Re: An Amazon.co.uk. query

 

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about in regards to payment
options, but I've noticed that the add to, like add to cart or add to
list, are radio buttons and once you check they they either do it, in
the case of add to list then a dialogue box box pops up that I
generally just hit escape to get out of, or add to cart where you have
to hit the submit query (at least that is what it says for me) to add
to cart. Just a warning it doesn't make any noise or refresh the page
when I do this, I'm using latest version of firefox, but when I
refreshed the page and go to my cart it will show that I have 1 item
in there.

I noticed that when I go to check out and select to change payment or
address there are radio buttons to pick an option


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<bglists@...> wrote:
I've not shopped on amazon for a good while, lack of funds etc!
However they seem to have cleaned up their site a bit, but no matter what
Item I view after logging in, there seems to be no add to basket link or
button. Help is as usual, no help at all.
Now I have changed my payment card details but when I go into my account
the correct card is shown as active so I'm in a bit of a puzzled state.
Have they made the control something peculiar that Firefox cannot see or
what?
All help gratefully received.
I do wish companies would leave their sites alone.
Brian

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Re: Bouncing again, just gott all this mornings back

Brian's Mail list account
 

Its so unpredictable. I have not had it on freelists for a long time now, but groups.io seems to be flavour of the month for it. What I don't get is that even before i take the unbounce link emails are being bounced into the account. If the site can send me bounces why not the actual mail itself?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bouncing again, just gott all this mornings back


Hi,

Yes, I've only seen this once or twice though.

All the best

Steve

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Sent: 24 June 2017 09:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Bouncing again, just gott all this mornings back

Gone to site and unbounced. anyone else finding this every few days. I will
have to resend every single email yet to bounce them back obviously means
that there is no bouncing going on, which points to groups.io having issues
not a problem my end.
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An Amazon.co.uk. query

Brian's Mail list account
 

I've not shopped on amazon for a good while, lack of funds etc!
However they seem to have cleaned up their site a bit, but no matter what Item I view after logging in, there seems to be no add to basket link or button. Help is as usual, no help at all.
Now I have changed my payment card details but when I go into my account the correct card is shown as active so I'm in a bit of a puzzled state. Have they made the control something peculiar that Firefox cannot see or what?
All help gratefully received.
I do wish companies would leave their sites alone.
Brian

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Re: bug in text presentation on the web with firefox

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

I can confirm this with latest firefox and nvda 2017.1. The line is spoken as one work without spaces. If I arrow through the line, no spaces appear.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug in text presentation on the web with firefox

hi.
i tested this page using both nvda 2017.1 and 2017.2 in firefox.
this line seems to be considered one combined word not many word.
Desktopscreenreaderuserswillfinditeasiertonavigateiftheydownloadthesamples.
i also have this problem using libreoffice 5.3 with nvda in its dialog boxes.
could someone read this bug which i reported and help me?
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108582
God bless you all.

On 6/25/17, George McCoy <slr1bpz@...> wrote:
The site Derek refered to works in google chrome. The line about screen
reader users downloading the sample is not run together.

George

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug in text presentation on the web with firefox

Hi,
Can you try testing this in Chrome please? I'll try my best to test this in

Edge.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Derek
Lane
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] bug in text presentation on the web with firefox

It seems that if text is on a web site with its class set to
screen-reader-text, firefox and the latest version of NVDA display that text

as one compound word. It does not do this with IE. This is under windows
7. I've yet to try 10.

The results of this bug can be seen on pages like
http://lanesaudio.com/examples where both the wordpress theme used, and a
tip about playing the audio on that page exists and is read with NVDA but
not shown on screen.











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