nvda@nvda.groups.io

Re: How do I check a check box?

Brian Vogel

#2119

Erik,

I have the same version of Open Office and, interestingly, I just had a crash while trying to play around with this form. I can replicate the crash if I tab beyond the "end" of the form trying to jump to the next (and non-existent, in this case) fillable item.

The above being noted, the form itself probably has accessibility issues. I have not used "fillable forms" in Open Office but have in MS-Office and, based on what you've supplied, this thing appears to be a form template but not set up that the end user can only enter data in specific form fields. Some of what you've filled in shows up in advance of the text boxes that I presume the developer probably thought you'd be landing in and then typing in. There is only one checkbox, at the bottom of page two, and even when I click on it with the mouse the object itself is not announced (making me believe there's no alternate text that describes its purpose) nor do I get any feedback from NVDA when I check or uncheck directly with the mouse.

I took it upon myself to "go to the source" and this form downloads as an MS-Word document. When opened under MS-Word it behaves as I'd expect - a template with fillable fields and those fields are the only thing you can touch. It's still horrible from an accessibility standpoint because the fields do not have any descriptive text associated with them to tell you what you've landed in and the checkbox is the same. Checkbox is announced but the question would be, "Checkbox for what?"

If I open the MS-Word document under Open Office or Libre Office, even retaining that format and not converting to ODT format, neither behaves at all well with this form. They both go back to treating it as if the whole document should be editable rather than traversing just the form fields and letting you fill them in.

I'm sorry that this is what I have to report. Given "the source" of this form it would be entirely legitimate to complain loudly that the form itself, in MS-Word, is not accessible in its native format. They need to add at least descriptive text, if not that and help text, to the various form fields so that anyone accessing it with Word and a screen reader can have a clue as to what they're expected to be filling in when they land on a given field or are checking to indicate on a checkbox. I doubt you'll get any traction as far as compatibility with OpenOffice or LibreOffice. Organizations don't, and can't, create electronic forms for every conceivable office suite. That being said, if they wanted to be more "universal" about it they should be using fillable PDFs, which are supported under Adobe Reader and can be saved after being filled in.

Brian

Re: Unable to install NVDA on Windows Vista laptop

Laughing Thunder

#2118

Hi,

There is a known issue with the NVDA installer and Windows Vista. The solution is usually to make sure that all updates from Windows Update are installed before attempting to install NVDA.

Hope that helps.

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On 4/7/2016 8:51 AM, Jessica Finch wrote:
I recently downloaded NVDA and attempted to run the install. The install
program did not run. I attempted again but it still did not run. This
laptop is running Windows Vista. I have installed other programs from
this account.
Any suggestions on what I can do to install NVDA?
Thanks, Paul on behalf of Jessica

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian Vogel

#2117

These days, with the exception of the Clamwin open-source antivirus, I don't know of a single antivirus or internet security product that does not do "on access" scanning for downloads. Windows Defender, the built-in that comes with Windows 8 and 10, does that. I have AVG, and Panda Cloud on two other machines in the house and they do that. Avast did that. You can even get an open-source add-on for Clamwin called Clam Sentinel and then Clam Sentinel does that job. The timing can be different, though. Most that I'm aware of will scan anything you attempt to download from the internet when you attempt to download it. When it comes to e-mail most do something similar at download time, while there were a few products that did the scanning when you attempted to open a message or specific attachment. The latter is becoming the exception rather than the rule these days.

When it comes to web filtering and security suites the default settings differ. When I took a look at the Sophos home page their statement, "With just a few clicks, block access to sites that may contain inappropriate content or malicious software," suggests that you have to turn this feature on. I've always done something similar with a product named Spywareblaster.

Shared computers, particularly those shared with, shall we say, "less sophisticated" users tend to need a bit more cyber armor than those used by a single user who consistently practices good computing hygiene.

There is no "one size fits all" though there's a wide "one size fits most" style of setup.

Brian

Re: How do I check a check box?

erik burggraaf <erik@...>

#2116

Hi Brian,

On Apr 5, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

What version of Open Office?
My about dialog states AOO412M3 october 2015. I just downloaded it a couple of days ago so it should be up to date.

If the form in question is downloadable, or you have a blank version, you can feel free to e-mail it to me and I'll see what I can do to activate a checkbox using NVDA 2016.1.

Here is a link to the form.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g9rw889y0y1hmyr/Form%203%20oo.odt?dl=0

If you're a mouse user typically a left mouse click on a checkbox acts as a toggle. You might want to get focus on the checkbox object and hit Num Pad Divide (desktop keyboard layout) or NVDA+[ (laptop keyboard layout) to see if it has the same effect.

This is another issue. My virtual machine is showing severe neglect. I am in the process of fixing it as we speak, but in the current configuration I have no nvda key. Most upsetting. I wanted to try the suggestions of NVDA plus left bracket and nvda plus enter but I'm on a bit of a time constraint and it may take a long while to get my keyboard back in shape.

Thanks for looking.

Brian

Re: regarding elequence

Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@...>

#2115

I want to only english voice of elequence sapi 5

Re: Unable to install NVDA on Windows Vista laptop

Brian Moore

#2114

Hi. we don't have a lot to go on here.

1. is user account control turned on? if so, does it come up?

2. what anti-virus program do you have?

it maybe be blocking the download or the running of the file. for example, if you have internet explorer and smart screen filter is on, it will likely prevent the file from opening unless you explicitly allow it.

does the installer come up?

if not, what happens when you try and run the file.

write privately if you want. btw, on vista, anything less than service pack 2 will give you odd results I suspect.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 04/07/2016 9:51 AM, Jessica Finch wrote:

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I recently downloaded NVDA and attempted to run the install. The install program did not run. I attempted again but it still did not run. This laptop is running Windows Vista. I have installed other programs from this account.

Any suggestions on what I can do to install NVDA?

Thanks, Paul on behalf of Jessica

Unable to install NVDA on Windows Vista laptop

Jessica Finch <JFinch697@...>

#2113

I recently downloaded NVDA and attempted to run the install. The install program did not run. I attempted again but it still did not run. This laptop is running Windows Vista. I have installed other programs from this account.

Any suggestions on what I can do to install NVDA?

Thanks, Paul on behalf of Jessica

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Aravind R

#2112

friends,
i require to delete all mails from GMail which i received from one
particular person.
is there any way to do this?

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On 4/7/16, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:
 This is inbox.google.com and keyboard shortcuts should work in IE11

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:40 AM HBotma <ehlbotma@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Group

I recently started using Gmail inbox with NVDA and Mozilla FireFox.  It
works very well, but for the purposes of my Internet classes, I teach the
students the old way, because Inbox doesn't work that well with Internet
Explorer, and very few of them will have access to Internet when they
leave
the college and even fewer will be able to download FireFox on their
computers without help.  These students are total beginners and Internet
access is limited in South Africa.

If the shortcuts worked in Internet Explorer as well, I would teach them
this way, because it is a lot quicker and simpler than going through
basic
HTML view.

Regards
Heaven


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't use Thunderbird.
I only use Inbox on web (NVDA/VoiceOver/ChromeVox), iOS VoiceOver, and
Android TalkBack
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM Afrim <afrim.maja@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for sharing this application with us.
In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla
thunderbird?
Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@gmail.com> wrote:


https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility

Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
Operating systemScreen readerBrowser
Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome
Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari

When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory
information about how to use the application. You can navigate through
these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
Compose and reply

To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To
get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text,
or
replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out
reply [image:
Pop out reply].
Keyboard shortcuts

For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The
following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list
while you're using Inbox, hold *Shift* and press *?* on your keyboard.
Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts
<https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6080523>;.
ShortcutAction
? Open keyboard shortcuts help
c Compose
t Create a reminder
/ Search
Home Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list
n Navigate to next message in an open thread
p Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter Open focused item
Esc Close
Shift + Esc Focus main window
Shift + m Focus main menu
Shift + b Focus notifications
x Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x Select multiple items
z Undo last action

*Tip:* To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay
on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press *Shift + b* to navigate to
the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the
screen longer:

   1. Open Inbox <https://inbox.google.com/>;.
   2. In the top left, go to the main menu [image: Main menu].
   3. Choose [image: Settings] *Settings* at the bottom.
   4. Choose *Other*.
   5. Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen
   longer."
   6. Select *Done*.
   7.

-- 
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Kevin Chao

#2111

This is inbox.google.com and keyboard shortcuts should work in IE11

Show quoted text

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:40 AM HBotma <ehlbotma@...> wrote:

Hi Group

I recently started using Gmail inbox with NVDA and Mozilla FireFox. It works very well, but for the purposes of my Internet classes, I teach the students the old way, because Inbox doesn't work that well with Internet Explorer, and very few of them will have access to Internet when they leave the college and even fewer will be able to download FireFox on their computers without help. These students are total beginners and Internet access is limited in South Africa.

If the shortcuts worked in Internet Explorer as well, I would teach them this way, because it is a lot quicker and simpler than going through basic HTML view.

Regards
Heaven

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:
I don't use Thunderbird.
I only use Inbox on web (NVDA/VoiceOver/ChromeVox), iOS VoiceOver, and Android TalkBack
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM Afrim <afrim.maja@...> wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for sharing this application with us.
In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla thunderbird?
Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility
Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
Operating system Screen reader Browser
Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome
Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari
When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
Compose and reply
To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .
Keyboard shortcuts
For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.
Shortcut Action
? Open keyboard shortcuts help
c Compose
t Create a reminder
/ Search
Home Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list
n Navigate to next message in an open thread
p Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter Open focused item
Esc Close
Shift + Esc Focus main window
Shift + m Focus main menu
Shift + b Focus notifications
x Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x Select multiple items
z Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:
Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

P. Otter

#2110

hello, and what is your question now?

with nvda it is very easy to navigate gmail with firefox.

but why don't you use thunderbird?

it's completely free!

while there is no internet, you can read the mails offline.

and when there is internet you can download all mails in a split second.

i think that's in this case the best solution you can get.

cheers

paul otter

nederland

if you want you can correspond in dutch because i read your name i think you're dutch.

but in that case in a pm only because this is a english list.

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----- Original Message -----

From: HBotma

To: nvda@groups.io

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:40 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Hi Group

I recently started using Gmail inbox with NVDA and Mozilla FireFox. It works very well, but for the purposes of my Internet classes, I teach the students the old way, because Inbox doesn't work that well with Internet Explorer, and very few of them will have access to Internet when they leave the college and even fewer will be able to download FireFox on their computers without help. These students are total beginners and Internet access is limited in South Africa.

If the shortcuts worked in Internet Explorer as well, I would teach them this way, because it is a lot quicker and simpler than going through basic HTML view.

Regards
Heaven

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

I don't use Thunderbird.
I only use Inbox on web (NVDA/VoiceOver/ChromeVox), iOS VoiceOver, and Android TalkBack

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM Afrim <afrim.maja@...> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for sharing this application with us.

In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla thunderbird?

Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility

Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:

Operating system Screen reader Browser

Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome

Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox

Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari

When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.

Compose and reply

To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .

Keyboard shortcuts

For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.

Shortcut Action

? Open keyboard shortcuts help

c Compose

t Create a reminder

/ Search

Home Navigate to first item in main list

j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list

k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list

n Navigate to next message in an open thread

p Navigate to previous message in an open thread

o or Enter Open focused item

Esc Close

Shift + Esc Focus main window

Shift + m Focus main menu

Shift + b Focus notifications

x Select or deselect an item in the main list

Shift + x Select multiple items

z Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:

Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Heaven Botma <ehlbotma@...>

#2109

Hi Group

I recently started using Gmail inbox with NVDA and Mozilla FireFox. It works very well, but for the purposes of my Internet classes, I teach the students the old way, because Inbox doesn't work that well with Internet Explorer, and very few of them will have access to Internet when they leave the college and even fewer will be able to download FireFox on their computers without help. These students are total beginners and Internet access is limited in South Africa.

If the shortcuts worked in Internet Explorer as well, I would teach them this way, because it is a lot quicker and simpler than going through basic HTML view.

Regards

Heaven

Show quoted text

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

I don't use Thunderbird.
I only use Inbox on web (NVDA/VoiceOver/ChromeVox), iOS VoiceOver, and Android TalkBack
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM Afrim <afrim.maja@...> wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for sharing this application with us.
In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla thunderbird?
Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility
Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
Operating system Screen reader Browser
Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome
Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari
When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
Compose and reply
To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .
Keyboard shortcuts
For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.
Shortcut Action
? Open keyboard shortcuts help
c Compose
t Create a reminder
/ Search
Home Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list
n Navigate to next message in an open thread
p Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter Open focused item
Esc Close
Shift + Esc Focus main window
Shift + m Focus main menu
Shift + b Focus notifications
x Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x Select multiple items
z Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:
Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>

#2108

Yes me too The issue often is when a computer is shared with the sighted and the young.

Most of the time the things I find are not  a real security risk, they normally do stuff like vector your searches via a proxy so they can track you and no doubt send you rubbish. Conduit springs to mind.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Ari,

It was never a common technique, and you only need concern yourself with it if you are suddenly being presented with a window or pop-up window that's coming up from nowhere and has no connection to anything you were doing. I don't know if there's a connection between the context menu that allows you to exit and the "Red X" exit at the upper right corner of the screen.

Seriously, if you keep your browsing hygiene even reasonably good none of these things will need to matter to you. While it's always good to know what you need to do if "the worst" happens, "the worst" seldom happens unless you're being careless to begin with.

I honestly can't remember the last time the antivirus on any of my computers quarantined anything or any of the other antispyware or antimalware programs found anything, either. I am not nearly as stringent or assiduous as some others are, as I've already noted. I am of the computing attitude, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." The metaphorical ounce of prevention is not difficult to do on a consistent basis.

I've recently posted on how to disable protected view in Microsoft Office programs. There have been times where there have been howls of protest that one simply can't and shouldn't do that. I make a note that you should do this with the proviso that you are watchful about precisely what MS-Office files you're willing to open based on knowing who and where they came from. If you know your stuff is coming from people you trust, they have security suites on their computers, it's being routed through an e-mail provider or cloud storage provider that virus scans everything, and you have your antivirus set up to scan anything you download before it gets saved on your machine then, really, how big a risk are you taking?

Brian, who believes it's about reasonable precautions, not "Cyber Fortress"

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Arianna Sepulveda

#2107

Do most antivirus programs automatically scan downloaded files when you start downloading them, or is this a feature you usually have to turn on? I just got Sophos, and am still getting used to it. I'd like to have a feature like this on, just in case.

Thanks, Ari

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On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Ari,
It was never a common technique, and you only need concern yourself with it if you are suddenly being presented with a window or pop-up window that's coming up from nowhere and has no connection to anything you were doing. I don't know if there's a connection between the context menu that allows you to exit and the "Red X" exit at the upper right corner of the screen.
Seriously, if you keep your browsing hygiene even reasonably good none of these things will need to matter to you. While it's always good to know what you need to do if "the worst" happens, "the worst" seldom happens unless you're being careless to begin with.
I honestly can't remember the last time the antivirus on any of my computers quarantined anything or any of the other antispyware or antimalware programs found anything, either. I am not nearly as stringent or assiduous as some others are, as I've already noted. I am of the computing attitude, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." The metaphorical ounce of prevention is not difficult to do on a consistent basis.
I've recently posted on how to disable protected view in Microsoft Office programs. There have been times where there have been howls of protest that one simply can't and shouldn't do that. I make a note that you should do this with the proviso that you are watchful about precisely what MS-Office files you're willing to open based on knowing who and where they came from. If you know your stuff is coming from people you trust, they have security suites on their computers, it's being routed through an e-mail provider or cloud storage provider that virus scans everything, and you have your antivirus set up to scan anything you download before it gets saved on your machine then, really, how big a risk are you taking?
Brian, who believes it's about reasonable precautions, not "Cyber Fortress"

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Kevin Chao

#2106

I don't use Thunderbird.
I only use Inbox on web (NVDA/VoiceOver/ChromeVox), iOS VoiceOver, and Android TalkBack

Show quoted text

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:54 PM Afrim <afrim.maja@...> wrote:

Hello,
Thanks for sharing this application with us.
In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla thunderbird?
Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility
Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
Operating system Screen reader Browser
Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome
Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari
When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
Compose and reply
To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .
Keyboard shortcuts
For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.
Shortcut Action
? Open keyboard shortcuts help
c Compose
t Create a reminder
/ Search
Home Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list
n Navigate to next message in an open thread
p Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter Open focused item
Esc Close
Shift + Esc Focus main window
Shift + m Focus main menu
Shift + b Focus notifications
x Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x Select multiple items
z Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:
Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>

#2105

Hello,

Thanks for sharing this application with us.

In terms of features and reliability, is it better than mozilla thunderbird?

Cheers.

Sent from my iPhone

Show quoted text

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 AM, Kevin Chao <kevinchao89@...> wrote:

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility
Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:
Operating system Screen reader Browser
Chrome OS ChromeVox Chrome
Microsoft Windows NVDA Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite VoiceOver Safari
When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.
Compose and reply
To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .
Keyboard shortcuts
For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.
Shortcut Action
? Open keyboard shortcuts help
c Compose
t Create a reminder
/ Search
Home Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow Navigate to previous item in main list
n Navigate to next message in an open thread
p Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter Open focused item
Esc Close
Shift + Esc Focus main window
Shift + m Focus main menu
Shift + b Focus notifications
x Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x Select multiple items
z Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:
Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian Vogel

#2104

Ari,

It was never a common technique, and you only need concern yourself with it if you are suddenly being presented with a window or pop-up window that's coming up from nowhere and has no connection to anything you were doing. I don't know if there's a connection between the context menu that allows you to exit and the "Red X" exit at the upper right corner of the screen.

Seriously, if you keep your browsing hygiene even reasonably good none of these things will need to matter to you. While it's always good to know what you need to do if "the worst" happens, "the worst" seldom happens unless you're being careless to begin with.

I honestly can't remember the last time the antivirus on any of my computers quarantined anything or any of the other antispyware or antimalware programs found anything, either. I am not nearly as stringent or assiduous as some others are, as I've already noted. I am of the computing attitude, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." The metaphorical ounce of prevention is not difficult to do on a consistent basis.

I've recently posted on how to disable protected view in Microsoft Office programs. There have been times where there have been howls of protest that one simply can't and shouldn't do that. I make a note that you should do this with the proviso that you are watchful about precisely what MS-Office files you're willing to open based on knowing who and where they came from. If you know your stuff is coming from people you trust, they have security suites on their computers, it's being routed through an e-mail provider or cloud storage provider that virus scans everything, and you have your antivirus set up to scan anything you download before it gets saved on your machine then, really, how big a risk are you taking?

Brian, who believes it's about reasonable precautions, not "Cyber Fortress"

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Arianna Sepulveda

#2103

Holy crap! I never knew that! That's insane! Is there actually a difference between the red X and the close icon you can bring up that has minimize, maximize, Etc.? I thought that close icon was an X as well.

Thanks,

Ari

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On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

To extend this to what other "computer geeks" think about good Browsing (or Computing in General) Hygiene, I'm posting a direct link to a thread entitled, Windows Defender, on bleepingcomputer.com. Although it started out as a question about Windows Defender as an antivirus program, several regulars offered some excellent advice about computing hygiene. One of the points I hadn't given much thought is not closing down what appear to be malicious windows using the red X at the upper right corner. This is something a screen reader user wouldn't likely have to consider often, since most I know will use ALT+F4 to close a window, but it is an interesting point that even the normal way of dismissing a window via mouse pointer can be used as the entry point for malicious software.
By the way, the poster named usasma, who is a regular and "geek extraordinaire," also happens to be visually impaired.
Brian

Re: NVDA with iTunes.

Supanut Leepaisomboon

#2102

iTunes worked with NVDA for me no problem. Didn't try the store but I think it is not needed for me as I mostly download apps via the iPhone's app store.

Accessibility in Inbox by Gmail - Inbox by Gmail Help

Kevin Chao

#2101

https://support.google.com/inbox/answer/6083800

Computer accessibility

Inbox is compatible with the following screen readers:

Operating system	Screen reader	Browser
Chrome OS	ChromeVox	Chrome
Microsoft Windows	NVDA	Firefox
Mac OS X Yosemite	VoiceOver	Safari

When you open Inbox for the first time, Inbox provides introductory information about how to use the application. You can navigate through these introductory screens with the left and right arrow keys.

Compose and reply

To reply to an email, start typing in the Reply box below the email. To get to more options, like changing the recipients, editing quoted text, or replying inline, just expand the compose window by selecting Pop out reply .

Keyboard shortcuts

For the best experience, turn on keyboard shortcuts in Inbox. The following table contains some useful shortcuts. To find a complete list while you're using Inbox, hold Shift and press ? on your keyboard. Learn how to turn on keyboard shortcuts.

Shortcut	Action
?	Open keyboard shortcuts help
c	Compose
t	Create a reminder
/	Search
Home	Navigate to first item in main list
j or right arrow	Navigate to next item in main list
k or left arrow	Navigate to previous item in main list
n	Navigate to next message in an open thread
p	Navigate to previous message in an open thread
o or Enter	Open focused item
Esc	Close
Shift + Esc	Focus main window
Shift + m	Focus main menu
Shift + b	Focus notifications
x	Select or deselect an item in the main list
Shift + x	Select multiple items
z	Undo last action

Tip: To improve keyboard navigation, you can make notifications stay on screen for 30 seconds. Then you can press Shift + b to navigate to the notification and take an action. To make notifications stay on the screen longer:

Open Inbox.
In the top left, go to the main menu .
Choose Settings at the bottom.
Choose Other.
Check the box next to "Make notifications stay on the screen longer."
Select Done.

Re: Good Browsing Hygiene, was: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Brian Vogel

#2100

Antony,

How are you receiving e-mail, and by that I mean are you getting each message, the full featured digest, or the plain digest? In reviewing copies of both the full featured digest and plain digest a clickable link is presented. In the full-featured it's in an HTML e-mail and a direct "typical" click-through. In the plain it appears that the click through text is separated out and the URL placed in angle brackets next to it.

Brian