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NVDA and Remote Desktop

Kevin Huber
 

Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber


Re: F Keys

Don H
 

On all the HP laptops I have owned the only way to get the function keys to work normally is to get into the BIOS and change the setting. HP maps all the function keys for their software. After changing the BIOS you then need to use the fn key to get to the HP mapped keys.

On 6/29/2017 10:02 AM, Gene wrote:
Many laptop computers now require the fn key to be held down for normal operation. That may well be what's happening in your case. Some systems allow you to change this behavior in Windows; I'm not sure where, maybe in the ease of access center. other systems require the change to be made in the BIOS. What I've suggested recently is that people try taping the fn key until they resolve the problem. Before shutting down or rebootting, sinnce I don't know how this might affect shut downs or boot ups, remove the tape. It's amateurish but it might work until you get the adjustment made.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Chris Shook <mailto:chris0309@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:57 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [NVDA] F Keys
Hi,
I have an issue with screen readers and the F 1 through 12 keys. I have
a new HP computer and I can't use NVDA plus F12 to tell the time. It
just doesn't say anything when I try.
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Chris


Re: F Keys

Gene
 

Many laptop computers now require the fn key to be held down for normal operation.  That may well be what's happening in your case.  Some systems allow you to change this behavior in Windows; I'm not sure where, maybe in the ease of access center.  other systems require the change to be made in the BIOS.  What I've suggested recently is that people try taping the fn key until they resolve the problem.  Before shutting down or rebootting, sinnce I don't know how this might affect shut downs or boot ups, remove the tape.  It's amateurish but it might work until you get the adjustment made.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 9:57 AM
Subject: [NVDA] F Keys

Hi,
I have an issue with screen readers and the F 1 through 12 keys. I have
a new HP computer and I can't use NVDA plus F12 to tell the time. It
just doesn't say anything when I try.
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Chris



F Keys

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
I have an issue with screen readers and the F 1 through 12 keys. I have a new HP computer and I can't use NVDA plus F12 to tell the time. It just doesn't say anything when I try.
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Chris


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Michael
 

Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.

Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



_____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.





--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you again.

Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



_____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750


Using matlab

Sile O'Modhrain <sileo@...>
 

Hello

Is anyone using Matlab with NVDA?

At the moment, nothing is being echoed from the command window when you execute a command.

I do have the -nodesktop flag set on the command line.

Yours,

--Sile


Re: query

anthony borg
 

Thanks gene

 

Regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 June 2017 23:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

There are lots of tutorials for NVDA.  Here is a link to a lot of them and other resources are on the same page.  One of the links is to recorded NVDA tutorials. 

This tutorial is probably linked to in the recorded tutorial section. I'm not recommending it over others, I haven't heard any of them to any extent.  Here is a link to this tutorial, which is very popular among NVDA users. 

 

You can download individual sections or, at the end of the sections, is a link to download the entire tutorial as a zip file.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 2:39 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi folks

 

I already have a youtube downloader installed, and I wish to obtain a written instructions for NVDA of how use it, because it is very hard to follow the recorded tutorial.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 June 2017 20:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

I didn't understand why people wanted this feature and I'm not saying it shouldn't be there.  I'd have to see the reasons it was implemented.  But having said that, it seems cumbersome and I question the value of having a line of text read alpha numerically.  NVDA already can read the current word alpha numerically.  I would think those who need such would be far better served by moving to the word they want clarified and using read current word.

 

As far as your problem is concerned, it will take a little getting used to, but you can work around the problem and after you get used to it. I would think it would become easy once you get used to it.  Press Read current line twice to hear it spelled.  Then, if you want to hear it spelled again and it hasn't finished being spelled, press control to stop speech and again issue read current line twice quickly.  Pressing control resets the command so pressing twice will always cause the line to be spelled.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 12:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] about one of new features in nvda 2017.2

 

i experienced this new feature both in persian (farsi) and english.
i wish that how many times i press nvda+up arrow, nvda only spells the
line not with character discription!

On 6/23/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> What language is this and what's the expected behavior please/
> Cheers,
> Joseph
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
> khaksar
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:57 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] about one of new features in nvda 2017.2
>
> hello every one.
> there is one new thing added to the new version of nvda which is realy
> annoying for me.
> when i press nvdaup three times,
> • Performing the read current line command three times quickly spells the
> line with character descriptions.
> it bother me realy.
> how can i deactivate it and restore previous behaviour?
> its very important for me if i want to use newer versions of nvda.
> i appreciate any help and God bless you all.
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Sakina
 

Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you again.

Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

 

Hi guys
                                                                                             
I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to do an interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related articles and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website where people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as the word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.
 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-becomes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


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Re: query

anthony borg
 

Hi gene

 

Thank you very much for the instructions you have sent me about Mozilla.

 

Kind regards

 

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 26 June 2017 23:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi

 

Try the following

 

While mozilla fire fox is open go to the menus by pressing the alt key. then go to tools where you have to arrow to the right to get to it.

Then arrow down to options then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up it should land you on the general tab hopefully.

 

Under the general tab


next tab a few times until you hear nvda say downloads. Just under it it will give you to options. one will be to save your files to save files to downloads which is the first option. The second  option is to save it to a specified place and is called  always ask you where to save them.. This is the option you might have at present.

Change it back to the first option where it says save files to downloads. They are both radio buttons so you should be able to use the up arrow key to change it to it.

then you should be able to close it after that with the alt + f4 key.

it looks as though as well if under the tools then download tab when you go into it that way it will give you the files you have downloaded, a search thingy where mine is set to downloads and a tree view. you might be able to change the tree view there from what ever yours is set to and point it towards the download folder that way 2. Just locate it then press the enter key on it to save that location i think it should work that way as well.


try the first option first to save it to your downloads folder through the general tab section as mentioned above.

hope the above helps.

Gene nz

   

On 6/27/2017 2:06 AM, anthony borg wrote:

Hi all

 

I’m having a problem with Mozilla because evrytime I try to download a program from the internet it goes straight to the Mozilla library instead to the download folder,

 

So, can you tell me if there is a written tutorial of how make Mozilla to downloading them in to the download folder?

 

And if so, from where I can get it please?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 26 June 2017 02:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

hi

 

I do have a tutorial on using google chrome with nvda i think it is written and there is a audio version at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you go to that page jump down by headings until you get to the one on using google chrome with nvda.

 

it is not the one which was done by David but some one might post a link to his one as well.

 

gene nz

 

 

On 6/26/2017 12:07 PM, Hermann-Josef Kurzen wrote:

Hi, 
 
I am interested in the link for the tutorial about Chrome, too. 
Who ist able to provide the link?
 
 
Grettings - Hermann
 
 
 
■■■
 
 
Gesendet: Montag, 26. Juni 2017 um 01:04 Uhr
Von: Arlene <nedster66@...>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Send me the link. I'll listen to the thing.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: June-25-17 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Chrome works fine with Win10.  Dave Moore made a nice tutorial to get you started.
If you cannot find it, let me know I will send you a link as it is a large file to email.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Wow, thanks for this list.
 
While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.
 
 
 
 
On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,
 
Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no 
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used 
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more 
like Windows 7.
 
Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/
 
Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing 
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow, 
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get 
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide 
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and 
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the 
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next 
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate 
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and 
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to 
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You 
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip
 
UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes 
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab 
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date 
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have 
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
 
Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer, 
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip 
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of 
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a 
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon 
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log 
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran 
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon 
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back 
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip
 
Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or 
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.
 
Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: query

anthony borg
 

Hi gene

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 26 June 2017 23:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] query

 

Hi

 

Try the following

 

While mozilla fire fox is open go to the menus by pressing the alt key. then go to tools where you have to arrow to the right to get to it.

Then arrow down to options then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up it should land you on the general tab hopefully.

 

Under the general tab


next tab a few times until you hear nvda say downloads. Just under it it will give you to options. one will be to save your files to save files to downloads which is the first option. The second  option is to save it to a specified place and is called  always ask you where to save them.. This is the option you might have at present.

Change it back to the first option where it says save files to downloads. They are both radio buttons so you should be able to use the up arrow key to change it to it.

then you should be able to close it after that with the alt + f4 key.

it looks as though as well if under the tools then download tab when you go into it that way it will give you the files you have downloaded, a search thingy where mine is set to downloads and a tree view. you might be able to change the tree view there from what ever yours is set to and point it towards the download folder that way 2. Just locate it then press the enter key on it to save that location i think it should work that way as well.


try the first option first to save it to your downloads folder through the general tab section as mentioned above.

hope the above helps.

Gene nz

   

On 6/27/2017 2:06 AM, anthony borg wrote:

Hi all

 

I’m having a problem with Mozilla because evrytime I try to download a program from the internet it goes straight to the Mozilla library instead to the download folder,

 

So, can you tell me if there is a written tutorial of how make Mozilla to downloading them in to the download folder?

 

And if so, from where I can get it please?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony   

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 26 June 2017 02:32
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: query

 

hi

 

I do have a tutorial on using google chrome with nvda i think it is written and there is a audio version at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

When you go to that page jump down by headings until you get to the one on using google chrome with nvda.

 

it is not the one which was done by David but some one might post a link to his one as well.

 

gene nz

 

 

On 6/26/2017 12:07 PM, Hermann-Josef Kurzen wrote:

Hi, 
 
I am interested in the link for the tutorial about Chrome, too. 
Who ist able to provide the link?
 
 
Grettings - Hermann
 
 
 
■■■
 
 
Gesendet: Montag, 26. Juni 2017 um 01:04 Uhr
Von: Arlene <nedster66@...>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Send me the link. I'll listen to the thing.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: June-25-17 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Chrome works fine with Win10.  Dave Moore made a nice tutorial to get you started.
If you cannot find it, let me know I will send you a link as it is a large file to email.
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Same here! My new computer will be ten. That's why I'm going to get these things. Does crome work good with win 7? Or does it work better with ten? I know the latest version of NVDA works with it!
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-25-17 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List of Utilities that Make Windows 10 More Like Windows 7
 
Wow, thanks for this list.
 
While I am not going to use these on systems I do admin on, its nice to know that even though I have to use a lot of extra third party hacks, my workstation will behave normally.
 
 
 
 
On 26/06/2017 1:55 a.m., Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Folks,
 
Let me start this off by saying that Windows 10 is great. I have no 
problems with it. However, some parts of it just aren't what they used 
to be. Here is a list of programs that make Windows 10 behave more 
like Windows 7.
 
Classic Shell:
Classic Shell gives you the old classic start menu, among other things.
http://www.classicshell.net/
 
Old Task Manager:
When I first updated from Windows 7 to Windows 10, the first thing 
that really irritated me was the new task manager. It was slow, 
cumbersome and annoying. So, I found a quick, easy and safe way to get 
it back. Just download the file, unzip it, run setup, and let it guide 
you through the steps. You should choose full installation, and 
uncheck the desktop icon check boxes when they come up. Also, once the 
task manager is installed, open it by pressing CTRL+Shift+escape. Next 
press alt and locate the "options" menu item. Press enter, and locate 
the "Hide When Minimized" option and uncheck it by pressing enter.
Next, press alt again, and find the "View" subMenu. Press enter, and 
locate the "Update Speed" subMenu and press enter on it. Set this to 
normal by locating the menu item and pressing enter. That's it. You 
now have the classic task manager from Windows 7 in Windows 10.
http://www.noahcarver.com/files/tm_cfg_win8-win10.zip
 
UBitMenu (Not Tested Myself but have heard it works) UBitMenu makes 
itself a new tab in your MS Office ribbon menu. Just activate this tab 
and you have the classic menus from MS Office 2003 in your up-to-date 
copy of MS Office.
Note: Although I have not tested this myself, other users have 
reported this works with NVDA.
http://www.ubit.ch/software/ubitmenu-languages/
 
Ribbon Disabler
Ribbon Disabler removes the ribbon tab from Windows Explorer, 
replacing it with the classic menu bar. Download the file, and unzip 
it. Next, look at the folder. If you are running a 64-bit copy of 
Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3 x64". If running a 
32-bit copy of Windows 10, run the file called "Ribbon disabler3".
Once the program opens, click the button labeled "Disable Ribbon 
Explorer ". The program should ask you to log off. Do so, Next, log 
back on... and boom. To uninstall, just run the program you ran 
earlier. You will be presented with a button that says "Enable Ribbon 
Explorer". Click it. Again, you should be prompted to log off and back 
on. Your Windows Explorer should look normal again.
http://grossgang.com/utilities/RibbonDisabler.zip
 
Hope these utilities help you. If you have any questions, comments or 
suggestions on more programs to add to this list, please reply.
 
Noah T. Carver
http://noahcarver.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Nv Access Checkout Page

Brian Moore
 

I tried with chrome as well and had the same issue when purchasing my expert certificate. IN fact, I have a wrong province since I couldn't operate the second drop down box.


Since I payed via paypal, it doesn't matter too much but I did try with cchrome ie and firefox all with no success.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 29/06/2017 7:38 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I forgot to mention that this issue occurs with Firefox latest version and Internet Explorer 11. I haven't tried it with Chrome.




On 6/29/2017 7:36 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


I can confirm this issue with the combo boxes on the products check out page for NV Access. It simply does not act like a combo box should that is configured for screen reader usage. It is as described by others: alt + up/down arrows do not work and switching back and forth from browse to edit mode pushes you all the way to the top of the page again.


I recommend a redesign of this page to make is accessible for screen readers ASAP so as not to embarrass the company.


This is with a Windows 8.1 64 bit 8 core 24 GB system running NVDA 2017.2.




On 6/29/2017 3:12 AM, Rob wrote:
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Do you have a page address people can try?
Yeah, stupid of me. I forgot to put that in.
Go to
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-excel-training-for-nvda-ebook/
Add to cart and go to check out.
In there you will find the two combo boxes I was talking about.




Re: Nv Access Checkout Page

Ron Canazzi
 

I forgot to mention that this issue occurs with Firefox latest version and Internet Explorer 11. I haven't tried it with Chrome.

On 6/29/2017 7:36 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,


I can confirm this issue with the combo boxes on the products check out page for NV Access. It simply does not act like a combo box should that is configured for screen reader usage. It is as described by others: alt + up/down arrows do not work and switching back and forth from browse to edit mode pushes you all the way to the top of the page again.


I recommend a redesign of this page to make is accessible for screen readers ASAP so as not to embarrass the company.


This is with a Windows 8.1 64 bit 8 core 24 GB system running NVDA 2017.2.




On 6/29/2017 3:12 AM, Rob wrote:
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Do you have a page address people can try?
Yeah, stupid of me. I forgot to put that in.
Go to
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-excel-training-for-nvda-ebook/
Add to cart and go to check out.
In there you will find the two combo boxes I was talking about.



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Nv Access Checkout Page

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I can confirm this issue with the combo boxes on the products check out page for NV Access. It simply does not act like a combo box should that is configured for screen reader usage. It is as described by others: alt + up/down arrows do not work and switching back and forth from browse to edit mode pushes you all the way to the top of the page again.


I recommend a redesign of this page to make is accessible for screen readers ASAP so as not to embarrass the company.


This is with a Windows 8.1 64 bit 8 core 24 GB system running NVDA 2017.2.

On 6/29/2017 3:12 AM, Rob wrote:
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Do you have a page address people can try?
Yeah, stupid of me. I forgot to put that in.
Go to
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-excel-training-for-nvda-ebook/
Add to cart and go to check out.
In there you will find the two combo boxes I was talking about.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong advice here.  


Tony

On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
 
How do I download message from the imap server?
 
Thanks.
 
Rosemarie
 
 


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

Thanks to everyone for all your kind words! While I was very happy to pass the exam, (as I'm sure all the other NVDA experts world wide were) I am always happy to see any positive publicity for NVDA. Both Mick and James saw the initial big picture when they first started...I'm just happy to be able to do what I can in terms of promoting the NVDA screen reader from here in New Zealand! It benefits a variety of people and they can only benefit from it if they know about it!

Really, it's an international team effort (users, developers, bug finders/testers, translators, donors etcetera) that all make NVDA what it is - a community driven screen reader! I'm just glad to be able to help people out in whichever way I can!

Thanks again everyone.

Gene NZ


On 6/28/2017 6:00 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Good article and thanks for sharing!
You are always a very helpful person on this list and very modest. Please know that you are appreciated by many in the community. (smile)
-Laurie

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 6/26/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

 Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Date: Monday, June 26, 2017, 10:43 PM
 
 
 

 
 
 Hi guys
 
                                                                                              
 
 
 I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who
 came out to do an interview out of the blue.
 
 It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA
 expert certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty
 happy with the article itself!
 
 
 
 The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA
 related articles and a little bit pointing towards the
 Accessibility Central website where people can find more
 information on NVDA and other blindness related topics.
 
 
 
 So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way
 as well as the word getting out more about NVDA!
 
 
 
 
 Here is a link to the article below.
 
  
 
 https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-becomes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme
 
 
 
 
 
 Gene NZ
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and
 other blindness related material at
 http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near
 one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen
 reader on one of their computers.
  To find out which locations (or location) is near to you
 please visit 
 http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
 (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA
 certified expert near you, please visit the following link
 https://certification.nvaccess.org/.
 The certification page contains the official list of NVDA
 certified individuals from around the world, who have sat
 and successfully passed the NVDA
  expert exam. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: can't read messages in the mail ap

Chris
 

The more likely reason for this is that you have the use carat to navigate the reading pane turned off

This setting can be found in the mail app under settings > reading

 

 


Re: who knows this problem with skype?

P. Otter
 

hi possibly that is the reason there is no problem with skype in that case.

i've 64 bit and skype is 32 bit i've always used skype on my 64 bit machine perhaps this is now ther problem?

i realy don't know.

cheers

paul otter



Op 28-6-2017 om 17:42 schreef Rui Fontes:

Windows 10 Home 32-bit, last version.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original----- De: P. Otter
Data: 28 de junho de 2017 16:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] who knows this problem with skype?

ok, very strange!

is that also when someone calls you?

and do you use windows 10 the last version?

and do you use the home edition of windows 10 or the pro version?

i'm using 64 bit home version.

and i've had this problem.

after i install a little older version the problem was over.

i'm curious about that.

cheers

paul otter



Op 28-6-2017 om 17:26 schreef Rui Fontes:
Hello!

I am using Skype™‎ Versão 7.36.0.101 and I don't have that problem...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: P. Otter
Data: 28 de junho de 2017 16:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] who knows this problem with skype?

hello, yes of course!


that was the first thing i did.
but now i know the reason for my problem.
the versions of skype be low 7.30 are good, the newer versions are buggy.
now i've installed the version 7.26 of skype and my problem is away.
so for every one who want to install skype, don't use the newest
versions above 7.3x.
lower versions you can install if you want but don't update!
that was the solution.
thanks for all who have tried to help me.
cheers
paul otter

Op 28-6-2017 om 16:34 schreef Chris Mullins:
Have you tried re-installing Skype?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 28 June 2017 14:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows this problem with skype?

hello, when i accept a call, i press alt page-up, after that i can talk with the other person, but while i'm talking, skype is ringing. after i've spoken i close the call by pressing alt and pagedown.

i hear also the signal that the call is ended.

but skype keeps ringing, if i close skype by pressing alt f4 i'm back on my desktop.

but... skype continues ringing, until i reboot my computer.

that is very, very annoying!

do you see a solution?

cheers

paul otter




Op 28-6-2017 om 14:25 schreef Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io:
This is going to possibly be a silly question, but if its invisible
how do you know if its closed or open?
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kostadin Kolev"
<k.kolev1985@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows this problem with skype?


Hello,


Look at this bug report that I've filed with Microsoft about a
similar (if not the same) issue:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/skype/forum/skype_windesk-skype_m
essms/problems-caused-by-an-invisible-window-of-skype/30f2b194-0287-4
018-a391-9fbc65b82a17?tm=1498289989517


Are you by any chance closing this invisible window of Skype? If so -
stop doing it and Skype should behave as expected.

Hope this helps.


______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 28.6.2017 г. в 13:27, P. Otter написа:

hello all,

i'm using windows 10, the last version and also the newest version
of nvda.

i have checked my computer for virus or other shit but there is'nt any.

i'm using the last version of skype but now ther i have a problem.

when someone calls me, skype geves a signal, as usal, but when i
accept the call, skype don't stops the ring in sound.

so while the call skype keeps ringing.

when i have ended the call, skype keeps ringing and don't stops.

when i want to let skype stop ringing, i have to reboot my computer.

after reboot it is silent again.

until there is a incoming call!

what can i do, and are there other people who knows this problem?

what i have done is uninstall skype and reinstall it again with the
same results.

who can help me?

cheers

paul otter










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Re: Nv Access Checkout Page

Gene
 

It appears that the first combo box does an odd thing.  With Chrome, I can open the combo box, write the name of a country in the edit field and press enter.  Then, the combo box says the name of the country I've written.  I'm not sure what happens in Firefox, I didn't try just that procedure when I was testing Firefox.  I didn't play with the second combo box enough to say anything about it.  But the first combo box is seen by Chrome as a combo edit box and for whatever reason, it is completely nonstandard and I assume the second one is as well.  You are placed in an edit field that isn't in the combo box when you open the combo box.  then you type a country, press enter, and you have to find the combo box again because you are nowhere near it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rob
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nv Access Checkout Page

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
> Do you have a page address people can try?

Yeah, stupid of me. I forgot to put that in.
Go to
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-excel-training-for-nvda-ebook/
Add to cart and go to check out.
In there you will find the two combo boxes I was talking about.




Re: can't read messages in the mail ap

Brian's Mail list account
 

I've not seen it on Microsoft but I thing its still around on other sites. Make sure you get the full installer. Microsoft near the end started just to send out a stub loader and since they took it down this version won't install.

I may have a copy somewhere but I stopped using it for reasons of inconvenience with multiple accounts and a tendency to lose folders without any warning.
Not sure why its so complicated for Microsoft to make a good robust accessible email and news program any more.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap


Hi, Gene,

I think I will use windows live again. Is there a link where I can get it?

Thanks.

Rosemarie



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap

If you want to use the mail app specifically, I'm not sure. As I understand matters, Windows Live Mail works well on your machine. There may be other reasons but the only reason I am aware of that you stopped using it is because, when composing in the edit field, you had to press alt twice before you could read what you had written. This caused you to leave and return to the edit field. If that is the only problem, why not use that program?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap

Hi, Gene,

Yes, I do have the latest add-on by Joseph Lee. Outlook started crashing a few days ago. I called the Microsoft disability line and thought the problem was solved but the crashing happened again. That’s when I decided to try the mail app again. I don’t know what else to do now.

Rosemarie



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap

Ben, Rosemary and all
I expect that NVDA is being used. Is the latest Add On being used for Windows 10 provided by Joseph Lee? Did this problem occur with the latest add on version and not with the previous add on version?

When you say that Outlook crashed, do you mean just once? If so, once in how long a time? Any program may crash on occasion.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben J. Bloomgren
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap

Jaws crapped out in the Mail app, but NVDA is still cruising.

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 17:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap

Hi, everyone,

I was using outlook but it crashed so I thought I’d use the mail app again. Now when I hit enter on a message, all I hear is “message document”. Is there a setting I might need to change?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Rosemarie
I do have the add-on installed.




Sent from Mail for Windows 10