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Re: Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Just press Control-F5 to force a refresh, no need to press enter.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: 29 June 2017 19:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Hello Group,

If one goes into Mozilla Firefox and presses control key with f5 and then the enter key, will that refresh the current version or any version of Firefox?

Or, is there a keyboard tutorial somewhere online that provides step by step instruction to refresh FireFox without mouse clicks?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: Anyone know?

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Yes, I did try that.  I always press Windows Up Arrow to maximise when I go into it.

 

Thanks though, good thought.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: 29 June 2017 04:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anyone know?

 

Hi Steve,

 

Did you try maximizing the outlook window? I ask because I have been experiencing this problem and maximizing the window does work. At other times, I navigate to a different e-mail folder and then return to the original folder and  the message list starts reading again.

 

Pranav


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Antony Stone
 

Please can we focus on whether this topic is regarding using NVDA over Windows
Remote Desktop, or whether we're talking about the NVDA Remote Access add-on?

The two are completely different things, and discussing both in the same thread
will only confuse people who come back to the archives and find these
conversations in future.

The current subject states "NVDA and Remote Desktop", so please keep all
future replies on topic for that.

If people wish to discuss the NVDA Remote Access add-on, please start a new
thread.


Thanks,


Antony.

On Thursday 29 June 2017 at 22:41:49, Sam Bushman wrote:

I would be interested as well. Also, what technology does the remote addon
use? Can we get the server to run on our own networks? Thanks,
Sam


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Do you have a step by step procedure for getting Nvda going via remote
desktop? I've got a main machine that I work on, but several machines also
on the same network.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/29/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
My apologies guys, I mistakenly thought you were talking about NVDA's
remote add-on.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: 29 June 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi Moty:

I do not have a braille display so I can't check that for you.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Moty Azrad <motiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do
anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the
conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without
shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA
on my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop,
the copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but
when I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I
press insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer,
the the NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am
in Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my
home computer responds by reading the title of the window where my
home computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber
--
"Remember: the S in IoT stands for Security."

- Jan-Piet Mens

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Sam Bushman
 

I would be interested as well. Also, what technology does the remote addon use? Can we get the server to run on our own networks?
Thanks,
Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Do you have a step by step procedure for getting Nvda going via remote desktop? I've got a main machine that I work on, but several machines also on the same network.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/29/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
My apologies guys, I mistakenly thought you were talking about NVDA's
remote add-on.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: 29 June 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi Moty:

I do not have a braille display so I can't check that for you.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Moty Azrad <motiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do
anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the
conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without
shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA
on my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop,
the copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but
when I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I
press insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer,
the the NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am
in Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my
home computer responds by reading the title of the window where my
home computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber

















Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Gene
 

Do you want an IMAP account now?  I can't help with setting it up if you do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?

I had a pop account in the past.
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?
 
Some programs, Thunderbird and Outlook, will apply message rules to IMAP accounts.  others, Windows Live Mail, and the old Outlook Express, won't. 
 
Did you use IMAP or POP3 before?  I much prefer POP3 if synchronization isn't desired among devices. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?
 
Depends on the email client. Most work automatically though. You set up the
account as told to, then when you go to the account it should ask if you
want to download folders, then when you open a folder it normally downloads
headers and the whole file when you go into that message. Some clients can
be set up so they download it all when you go there or you can ask it to
download all messages in all folders. You can also often hide folders you
are not interested in.
Some clients retain messages while others seem to keep them only for that
session.
Also of cours you cannot normally use message rules on Imap servers as the
sorting is done at the source. You can often make other folders and use them
manually to stare messages on the server but this depends on where the email
server is Google seem to do their own thing in this regard while others  are
more traditional.
At least, normally you can get access to the spam folder on Imap which you
do not get on a pop3 server.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 5:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


Hi, everyone,

How do I download message from the imap server?

Thanks.

Rosemarie





Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Do you have a step by step procedure for getting Nvda going via remote
desktop? I've got a main machine that I work on, but several machines
also on the same network.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/29/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
My apologies guys, I mistakenly thought you were talking about NVDA's remote
add-on.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Huber
Sent: 29 June 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi Moty:

I do not have a braille display so I can't check that for you.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Moty Azrad <motiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do
anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the
conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without
shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop,
the copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but
when I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I
press insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer,
the the NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am
in Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my
home computer responds by reading the title of the window where my
home computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber

















Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I had a pop account in the past.
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?
 
Some programs, Thunderbird and Outlook, will apply message rules to IMAP accounts.  others, Windows Live Mail, and the old Outlook Express, won't. 
 
Did you use IMAP or POP3 before?  I much prefer POP3 if synchronization isn't desired among devices. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?
 
Depends on the email client. Most work automatically though. You set up the
account as told to, then when you go to the account it should ask if you
want to download folders, then when you open a folder it normally downloads
headers and the whole file when you go into that message. Some clients can
be set up so they download it all when you go there or you can ask it to
download all messages in all folders. You can also often hide folders you
are not interested in.
Some clients retain messages while others seem to keep them only for that
session.
Also of cours you cannot normally use message rules on Imap servers as the
sorting is done at the source. You can often make other folders and use them
manually to stare messages on the server but this depends on where the email
server is Google seem to do their own thing in this regard while others  are
more traditional.
At least, normally you can get access to the spam folder on Imap which you
do not get on a pop3 server.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 5:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


Hi, everyone,

How do I download message from the imap server?

Thanks.

Rosemarie





Re: Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

I think Firefox works the same as Chrome, f5 reloads the currently displayed page from cache, Control+f5 reloads it from the source server.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: 29 June 2017 19:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Hello Group,

If one goes into Mozilla Firefox and presses control key with f5 and then the enter key, will that refresh the current version or any version of Firefox?

Or, is there a keyboard tutorial somewhere online that provides step by step instruction to refresh FireFox without mouse clicks?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Chris Mullins
 

My apologies guys, I mistakenly thought you were talking about NVDA's remote add-on.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: 29 June 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi Moty:

I do not have a braille display so I can't check that for you.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Moty Azrad <motiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the
conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without
shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop,
the copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but
when I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I
press insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer,
the the NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am
in Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my
home computer responds by reading the title of the window where my
home computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber












Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Moti
Yes, if you install version 2, it will produce Braille on the controlling machine when linked to another machine in a remote session.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Moty Azrad
Sent: 29 June 2017 18:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber






Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Isn't it control-alt-pause?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. Juni 2017 19:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber






Re: [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

Sakina
 

Anthony Hello,

Have you tried pressing nvda key and f12 key very quickly twice inorder to hear the day and date.

Keep your finger down on nvda key  while you quickly dab it twice.

Hope it works.

 

Sakina

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi,

Time-out problem, I think. Tyler or other gurus, any thoughts?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi joseph

I disabled and enabled the add-ons as you explained to me, but the problem remained there even with the sticky keys turned off.

To remind you again what is the problem, when I press the insert plus f12 to check the time it works, but when I press it twice to read me out the date it doesn’t work.

And that happens withother commands where I have to press them more than once.

Thanks in advance

Anthony   

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 27 June 2017 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi,

And sticky keys option in Ease of Access isn’t helping, and did restarting NVDA (both with add-ons enabled and disabled) improve the situation?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi joseph

 

I am a single handedperson so to be able to use my laptop keyboard I need to use the sticky keys.  

 

My problem is that I am noticing that the sticky keys are interfering with the capslock, 

 

And the other problem is when I come for example to press the insert plus f12 twice to check the date it doesn’t work.

 

And that happens also with the other commands that we have to press them once, twice and more to do do certain things.

 

In my opinion the sticky keys are not working as they should with NVDA.

 

Can you please do something about it to be resolved?

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony  

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 27 June 2017 20:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Dear NVDA community:

 

For those on NVDA users and add-ons lists: a few days ago I announced Project Hidden Singer/Big Bang, a project to restructure code in Windows 10 App Essentials and say goodbye to old workarounds. This is partly motivated by the fact that, with NVDA 2017.3, features from this add-on will make their debut as part of the screen reader itself, so the add-on is no longer required for some major tasks. The below announcement is just a first step in this project, with the complete picture emerging by September 2017.

 

Announcement text:

 

As part of NVDA 2017.3, NV Access, together with Joseph Lee, a Windows Insider and a noted NVDA expert in United States, have developed a set of features designed to improve user experience for Windows 10 users using NVDA. Prior to the upcoming release, an add-on called Windows 10 app Essentials have included features such as sounds to indicate appearance of search suggestions, announcing top search suggestion in braille and various workarounds for Windows 10 and various universal apps. Joseph, the author of the Windows 10 App Essentials, is delighted to announce that these features will be part of upcoming NVDA 2017.3, scheduled to hit the air sometime in August 2017.

 

As part of this work, I (Joseph Lee) would like to announce three important things:

 

1.       A fall release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on will require NVDA 2017.3. This will be in place no later than October 2017.

2.       For those using NVDA snapshots (master and/or next), a new “pilot development” channel will be introduced. You may occasionally hear references to “try builds”, “fast ring snapshots” and what not, but in context of this add-on, it all refers to the pilot channel. This channel will not show up in update channel list, as this channel is designed to receive continuous feedback i.e. this channel requires NVDA snapshots. Anyone using development channel of this add-on along with NVDA master or next snapshots will be moved to this channel, as code in this channel parts ways with compatibility layer code, as changes made to NVDA snapshots will be reflected in these builds. If you are using Windows 10 App Essentials development snapshots under NVDA stable (2017.2, for example), you’ll stay in development channel (sometimes called “slow ring”) in order to preserve compatibility layer routines.

3.       Speaking of snapshot combinations: starting from June 28th WinTenApps snapshot, those on pilot development channel will get a build that is equivalent to NVDA next snapshots. This snapshot removes compatibility layer in place for search suggestion announcement, as this is no longer required if you are on latest master and/or next snapshots as NVDA itself will handle this for you.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Refresh Firefox with NVDA

James AUSTIN
 

Hi David

F5 refreshes Firefox for me and I think NVDA key + F5 refreshes NVDA.

Best

James

On 29/06/2017 19:19, David Russell wrote:
Hello Group,

If one goes into Mozilla Firefox and presses control key with f5
and then the enter key, will that refresh the current version or any
version of Firefox?

Or, is there a keyboard tutorial somewhere online that provides step
by step instruction to refresh FireFox without mouse clicks?
Thanks.


Refresh Firefox with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hello Group,

If one goes into Mozilla Firefox and presses control key with f5
and then the enter key, will that refresh the current version or any
version of Firefox?

Or, is there a keyboard tutorial somewhere online that provides step
by step instruction to refresh FireFox without mouse clicks?
Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Moty:

I do not have a braille display so I can't check that for you.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Moty Azrad <motiaz@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the conflicts, but
I wonder if there is a better way to do it without shutting NVDA down when I
want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber












Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Moti Azrad
 

Hello,

I didn't try NVDA rmote desktop yet. I ask:
May I have braille while I control another pc:
Any other tips and output, is greatly appreciated.

Moti

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber






Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Kevin Huber
 

By the way, I just tried the f11 key and that doesn't seem to do anything.

I did find a solution, however. I changed the NVDA key on my PC to
capslock. I think that that takes care of a majority of the
conflicts, but I wonder if there is a better way to do it without
shutting NVDA down when I want to go to my remote desktop.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber



On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber






Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Kevin Huber
 

Yes they are.

By the way, I never thought of the f11 key.
I think I will try it.
Kevin Huber

On 6/29/17, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber




Re: can't read messages in the mail ap

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Already tried that.
 
 
 

From: Chris
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read messages in the mail ap
 

The more likely reason for this is that you have the use carat to navigate the reading pane turned off

This setting can be found in the mail app under settings > reading

 

 


Re: F Keys

 

I also have an HP since 5 years and I got used to pressing the
function key next to the left control to have the keys at the top act
as function keys. If you want the time you'll need to press
NVDA+FN+f12.

On 6/29/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Chris
Is it a HP laptop and do any of your f keys work as f keys? Try using
nvdakey+fn+f12 to speak the time. If it works then the laptop is
configured
for the action keys to have precedence over the f keys, so you have to use
the fn key to make an f key function as an f key. The action keys perform
functions like volume up/down, mute wireless on/off etc. You can switch
this behaviour around but you have to change a bios setting to do it, so
you
may require sighted assistance. My HP laptop is around 5 years old now and
it is what I had to do but some manufacturers have a Windows interface to
the bios but whether HP have done that since I bought mine, I don't know.

Cheers
Chris .
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: 29 June 2017 15:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [NVDA] F Keys

Hi,
I have an issue with screen readers and the F 1 through 12 keys. I have a
new HP computer and I can't use NVDA plus F12 to tell the time. It just
doesn't say anything when I try.
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
Thanks
Chris