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Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure your
computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can be in an
active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all logged in locally,
then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local
network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the
remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on
was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

 

Hi,
I'll do something about this next week at the earliest.
For folks interested in technical discussions: please take a look at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3564

Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my
local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a
NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via
remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote
desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing
control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local
and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the
accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the
other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys


Sorry some how it focused on the wrong email in the reply.


gene nz



On 6/30/2017 11:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 
On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.





--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750





--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 

On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.






--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750






--
Image NVDA
        certified expert
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 

On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.






--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750






--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene
 

The message doesn't say this, but this problem evidently occurs when replying to or composing a message.  I don't know if the setting you are referring to has any bearing on working in the edit field.  also, did this problem begin after a Thunderbird Update? 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Hi


what is your message body set to?? The message body can be found under the view menu then message body. is it set to the first option? I think it is called original html.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2017 10:23 PM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


what is your message body set to?? The message body can be found under the view menu then message body. is it set to the first option? I think it is called original html.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2017 10:23 PM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene
 

Try turning off browse mode when in the message body, NVDA key space. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Justine
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine


Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Justine <griff.js@...>
 

Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer. Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf

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I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
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Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber



Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

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I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
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Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber


Re: [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

anthony borg
 

Hi sakina

 

Many thanks for your help and support, infact that problem has been resolved by pressing the NVDA quickl and then the f12 twice as you said.

 

All the best

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sakina
Sent: 29 June 2017 20:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Anthony Hello,

Have you tried pressing nvda key and f12 key very quickly twice inorder to hear the day and date.

Keep your finger down on nvda key  while you quickly dab it twice.

Hope it works.

 

Sakina

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi,

Time-out problem, I think. Tyler or other gurus, any thoughts?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi joseph

I disabled and enabled the add-ons as you explained to me, but the problem remained there even with the sticky keys turned off.

To remind you again what is the problem, when I press the insert plus f12 to check the time it works, but when I press it twice to read me out the date it doesn’t work.

And that happens withother commands where I have to press them more than once.

Thanks in advance

Anthony   

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 27 June 2017 21:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi,

And sticky keys option in Ease of Access isn’t helping, and did restarting NVDA (both with add-ons enabled and disabled) improve the situation?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Hi joseph

 

I am a single handedperson so to be able to use my laptop keyboard I need to use the sticky keys.  

 

My problem is that I am noticing that the sticky keys are interfering with the capslock, 

 

And the other problem is when I come for example to press the insert plus f12 twice to check the date it doesn’t work.

 

And that happens also with the other commands that we have to press them once, twice and more to do do certain things.

 

In my opinion the sticky keys are not working as they should with NVDA.

 

Can you please do something about it to be resolved?

 

I hope you will be able to understand what I mean.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony  

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 27 June 2017 20:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [attention to joseph lee, sticky keys with NVDA

 

Dear NVDA community:

 

For those on NVDA users and add-ons lists: a few days ago I announced Project Hidden Singer/Big Bang, a project to restructure code in Windows 10 App Essentials and say goodbye to old workarounds. This is partly motivated by the fact that, with NVDA 2017.3, features from this add-on will make their debut as part of the screen reader itself, so the add-on is no longer required for some major tasks. The below announcement is just a first step in this project, with the complete picture emerging by September 2017.

 

Announcement text:

 

As part of NVDA 2017.3, NV Access, together with Joseph Lee, a Windows Insider and a noted NVDA expert in United States, have developed a set of features designed to improve user experience for Windows 10 users using NVDA. Prior to the upcoming release, an add-on called Windows 10 app Essentials have included features such as sounds to indicate appearance of search suggestions, announcing top search suggestion in braille and various workarounds for Windows 10 and various universal apps. Joseph, the author of the Windows 10 App Essentials, is delighted to announce that these features will be part of upcoming NVDA 2017.3, scheduled to hit the air sometime in August 2017.

 

As part of this work, I (Joseph Lee) would like to announce three important things:

 

  1. A fall release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on will require NVDA 2017.3. This will be in place no later than October 2017.
  2. For those using NVDA snapshots (master and/or next), a new “pilot development” channel will be introduced. You may occasionally hear references to “try builds”, “fast ring snapshots” and what not, but in context of this add-on, it all refers to the pilot channel. This channel will not show up in update channel list, as this channel is designed to receive continuous feedback i.e. this channel requires NVDA snapshots. Anyone using development channel of this add-on along with NVDA master or next snapshots will be moved to this channel, as code in this channel parts ways with compatibility layer code, as changes made to NVDA snapshots will be reflected in these builds. If you are using Windows 10 App Essentials development snapshots under NVDA stable (2017.2, for example), you’ll stay in development channel (sometimes called “slow ring”) in order to preserve compatibility layer routines.
  3. Speaking of snapshot combinations: starting from June 28th WinTenApps snapshot, those on pilot development channel will get a build that is equivalent to NVDA next snapshots. This snapshot removes compatibility layer in place for search suggestion announcement, as this is no longer required if you are on latest master and/or next snapshots as NVDA itself will handle this for you.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Re: NVDA and combo boxes

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There appear to be two kinds. Some that activate when you stop scrolling, and some that need to be activated when you find what you want.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and combo boxes


I am having some problems with expanding combo boxes using the latest Version of NVDA on a Win 10 system. With Window Eyes when on a combo box you pressed enter then expanded it with alt downarrow.
Thanks


Re: Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Brian's Mail list account
 

No but f5 on its own refreshes the pages. something often needed with current web sites eminatiing from multiple servers and messages appearing in these pages like server not reachable or whole lumps of content missing. However also nveda seems to struggle at times where it won't actually read the new data unless you bring up a menu then cancel it or switch away and back again.
Not sure if this is an nvda or a firefox buhg. to see if you have the latest Firefox, simply use help and about and have a look near the top and it normally says update to Firefox is available.
Not much to do after that, you may need to wait till the next session to actually see any changes though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@...>
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Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Refresh Firefox with NVDA


Just to clarify - Control F5 refreshes the content of the current window or
tab - it has nothing to do with refreshing Firefox itself.

The question "will that refresh the current version or any version of
Firefox?" makes me wonder whether someone thinks this is going to upgrade
Firefox itself to a new version.

It won't.


Antony.

On Thursday 29 June 2017 at 22:59:04, Steve Nutt wrote:

Just press Control-F5 to force a refresh, no need to press enter.

All the best

Steve

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Russell Sent: 29 June 2017 19:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refresh Firefox with NVDA

Hello Group,

If one goes into Mozilla Firefox and presses control key with f5 and then
the enter key, will that refresh the current version or any version of
Firefox?

Or, is there a keyboard tutorial somewhere online that provides step by
step instruction to refresh FireFox without mouse clicks? Thanks.

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Re: Pay Pal Amazon Gift Card Service

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I have noticed on paypal recently it keeps on trying to run my non existant Flash Firefox add in. I've not noticed this causing any problems to the normal paypal screens, but wonder if this particualr bit is flash based.
How does one actually get to this part to test it?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pay Pal Amazon Gift Card Service


How have you tried reading the edit boxes? If you haven't done so, try all these ways:
In browse mode, try tabbing through them. Also in browse mode, down arrow through them.
In forms mode, tab through them.

See if any of those methods present the title of the edit fields.

Gene
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From: Rich De Steno
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Pay Pal Amazon Gift Card Service


Pay Pal recently added a feature to enable purchasing Amazon Gift Cards
through Pay Pal. I find this process inaccessible with NVDA. In
particular, there are four consecutive edit boxes that NVDA does not
identify. This renders it impossible to take advantage of this feature
with NVDA.

--
Rich De Steno


Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Tony,

I lost the sound in outlook so I'm using the gmail site to write this
message. I don't know how to get the mail notification sound back. I
think what happened was when I set up message rules, the sound went
away so now I have everything going to the inbox.

Rosemarie

On 6/29/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,


Ok, That's great. They know their stuff. I use them to help me in sticky
situations.


Tony

On 6/29/2017 11:11 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I'm using outlook but the microsoft disability line person helped me set it
up.

Thanks.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


Hi Rosemarie,



Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong
advice here.



Tony
On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

How do I download message from the imap server?

Thanks.

Rosemarie






Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Ok, That's great. They know their stuff. I use them to help me in sticky situations.


Tony 


On 6/29/2017 11:11 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Tony,

 

I'm using outlook but the microsoft disability line person helped me set it up.

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong advice here.  

 

Tony

On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

How do I download message from the imap server?

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 



Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Tony,

 

I'm using outlook but the microsoft disability line person helped me set it up.

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong advice here.  

 

Tony

On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

 

How do I download message from the imap server?

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 


Re: Incorrect Information in Excel

Rob
 

Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Turn on reporting cell coordinates in the Document formatting dialog.

Yes that was indeed the answer.
Almost Always something simple.