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Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Make sure you have thunderbird set to show simple html, this will prevent several issues with spammers, but will also allow NVDA to read things a bit better.

With the full blown html, there are things that NVDA doesn't handle well, though it's rarely NVDA's fault, it's the html code that folks haven't a clue how to writ themselves, so they use programs to generate it for them, and some programs don't do a very good job of generating html code that is standards compliant.
This may not solve your problem entirely, but it probably will help.

On 6/30/2017 6:23 AM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine


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Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Rosemarie,


Oh dear. Let's see if we can figure things out and get them back to
being peachy. What operating system are you using? I have to know this
before I devise a plan of attack. I have windows 10 running on both my
systems just to be fair. Kind of like that game you show me yours, I'll
show you mine



Tony

On 6/30/2017 1:54 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I lost the sound in outlook so I'm using the gmail site to write this
message. I don't know how to get the mail notification sound back. I
think what happened was when I set up message rules, the sound went
away so now I have everything going to the inbox.

Rosemarie



On 6/29/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,


Ok, That's great. They know their stuff. I use them to help me in sticky
situations.


Tony

On 6/29/2017 11:11 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I'm using outlook but the microsoft disability line person helped me set it
up.

Thanks.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


Hi Rosemarie,



Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong
advice here.



Tony
On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

How do I download message from the imap server?

Thanks.

Rosemarie






Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Jonathan Milam
 

Yes that's correct.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I've read somewhere that W10 Home machines cannot be on the remote end of a
Remote Desktop connection, only W10 Pro, is this the case?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Milam
Sent: 30 June 2017 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure your
computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can be in an
active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all logged in locally,
then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local
network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the
remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add
on was designed.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch

Bhavya shah
 

Hi David,
Not sure about the Sounds Applet in Windows, but customization of NVDA
sounds is certainly possible, although in a slightly hacky and
unofficial (but not unethical or illegal) way. Check out the third
trick which deals with this very task of my recent blog post 'Top 5
NVDA Tips and Tricks You Need To Know' located at
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/top-5-nvda-tips-and-tricks-you-need-to-know/
Thanks.

On 6/30/17, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed
to this list and have been off of it for quite some time.

I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent
version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the
sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I
wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced.

I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing
users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as
you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen
reader.


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Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch

David Goldfield
 

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed to this list and have been off of it for quite some time.

I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced.

I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen reader.


--
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Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

 

I'll say it again, it's best to set up message filtering for IMAP on your IMAP server side, regardless of the provider.  It's a part of the protocol and it's on the server side so that the filtering you do and the folders you create are automatically propagated across all devices you might ever use to access your e-mail.  It saves you having to do this work again when you get a new computer, for instance, because it's all done on the server side.

For Gmail I wrote the following instructions a while back:  Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail
--
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Important announcement: say goodbye to NVDA Add-ons list on Freelists

 

Dear NVDA community:

 

In June 2017, citing bouncing and other problems, the add-ons community announced migration of NVDA Add-ons list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Apart from porting the archive from the old to the new facility, list migration is complete.

 

Background: In 2012, NV Access unveiled NVDA 2012.2, bringing with it a completely new way of extending NVDA: add-ons. The response was phenomenal: it spurred innovations in the NVDA community through add-ons, with add-on authors forming a community in May 2013 to coordinate add-on reviews, release announcements, and share tips and tricks. This community was initially hosted at Freelists until June 2017 when bouncing issues and other problems caused the community to consider migrating to Groups.IO, a new mailing list provider that offers tons of features such as group wiki, databases, hashtags in messages, subgroups and so on.

 

To subscribe to Groups.IO NVDA Add-ons list, send an email to nvda-addons+subscribe@groups.io. When asked to confirm, please do confirm.

 

With the list migration complete, the following will take place:

 

Freelists version:

  1. -I (Joseph Lee), the director (owner) of the NVDA Add-ons Freelists list, hereby declare Freelists list closed, effective immediately.
  2. I advise everyone on the Freelists list to unsubscribe immediately. To do so, send an email to nvda-addons-request@... with the subject line of “unsubscribe” (without quotes) and confirm if requested.
  3. Anyone left by July 15, 2017 will be unsubscribed automatically unless you are having difficulty signing up for Groups.IO list.
  4. Archives of Freelists will be preserved as a historical artifact. I do have the offline copy of the list archive and am working on moving that to Groups.IO version.
  5. References to Freelists add-ons list will be modified to point to the new list.

 

Groups.IO version:

  1. The community will start accepting review requests. When doing so, please use #AddonReview hashtag. See the hashtags list below for details.
  2. An internal database will be used by the community to record add-on information such as name, author, version and notes from the community.
  3. The RSS feeds from the add-ons website (https://addons.nvda-project.org) will be sent to add-ons list as an integration. This is useful for add-on authors to announce release of an add-on.

 

NVDA Add-ons forum organization:

  • Owner/director: Joseph Lee
  • Owner/NV Access rep: James “Jamie” Teh
  • Moderators/add-on review directors: Noelia Martinez, Derek Riemer, James Scholes
  • Anyone can serve as reviewers. Noelia, Derek and James S will serve as chief reviewers and will coordinate reviews and reviewers.

 

Hashtags list (Groups.IO):

  • #AdminNotice: important announcements from admins and moderators.
  • #AddonRelease: reserved for add-on release announcements.
  • #AddonTesting: information on add-on development and snapshots.
  • #AddonReview: reserved for add-on review requests and responses.

 

And with that, let us say goodbye to the old list and say hello to the new list.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

Joseph S. Lee

Student (communication), California State University, Los Angeles

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Certified NVDA Expert, 2017


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Chris Mullins
 

I've read somewhere that W10 Home machines cannot be on the remote end of a Remote Desktop connection, only W10 Pro, is this the case?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: 30 June 2017 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure your computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can be in an active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all logged in locally, then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the
remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add
on was designed.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure your
computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can be in an
active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all logged in locally,
then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local
network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the
remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on
was designed.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

 

Hi,
I'll do something about this next week at the earliest.
For folks interested in technical discussions: please take a look at:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3564

Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my
local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a
NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via
remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote
desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing
control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local
and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the
accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the
other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys


Sorry some how it focused on the wrong email in the reply.


gene nz



On 6/30/2017 11:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 
On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

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(Aotearoa
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Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 

On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.






--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
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        certified expert
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

no matter which one it is set to wheather it is original html, simple or text view when composing a email when you go to insert a table it does that part ok and nvda will let you know how many rows etc.

but then it will keep on reading down the table and will not stop. you can not interact with it either.

I have not tried it with a reply email but am guessing you will get the same result.

if it is in the email you got from some one i guess it will read correctly and i am sure you can then see what is in those cells. I will have a play. Looks like a ticket that will have to be done.

Gene nz
 

On 6/30/2017 2:27 AM, Michael wrote:
Dear Gene Stratford man,
May I add my congratulations. Sakina and Bhavya have expressed it very well.
Continue doing what you're doing.

 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 8:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz

Hi Gene,
Congratulations on the press coverage of your official NVDA
accreditation, and am glad to see local mainstream media talking about
assistive technology. Thank you for all the material you compile and
compose for the NVDA community!
Thanks.

On 6/29/17, Sakina <sakina.gable@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,

Read your article and was truly pleased.

Your article sums it all about the help you give us all. Thank you
again.
Well done and my heartiest congratulations.

Always with best wishes

Sakina



  _____

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
New
Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Stratford man becomes New Zealand's expert on
international
screen-reading programme | Stuff.co.nz



Hi guys


I had a phone call this morning from a local newspaper who came out to
do
an
interview out of the blue.
It is about the first person in New Zealand getting the NVDA expert
certification. I was a bit surprised, but pretty happy with the article
itself!

The article is about the certificate and some other NVDA related
articles
and a little bit pointing towards the Accessibility Central website
where
people can find more information on NVDA and other blindness related
topics.

So, hopefully NVaccess has some more hits coming their way as well as
the
word getting out more about NVDA!

Here is a link to the article below.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/94132707/stratford-man-
beco
mes-new-zealands-expert-on-international-screenreading-programme


Gene NZ

--
Image NVDA
certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in
New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the
NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.






--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750






--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene
 

The message doesn't say this, but this problem evidently occurs when replying to or composing a message.  I don't know if the setting you are referring to has any bearing on working in the edit field.  also, did this problem begin after a Thunderbird Update? 
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Hi


what is your message body set to?? The message body can be found under the view menu then message body. is it set to the first option? I think it is called original html.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2017 10:23 PM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


what is your message body set to?? The message body can be found under the view menu then message body. is it set to the first option? I think it is called original html.

Gene nz

On 6/30/2017 10:23 PM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Gene
 

Try turning off browse mode when in the message body, NVDA key space. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Justine
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine


Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

Justine <griff.js@...>
 

Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of the email. It will only read the email from start to finish.  It is a HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed. Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings.  But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer. Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

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From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber



Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber