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Re: Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch

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I don't like the next snaps sounds myself but I am only one person. See my previous reply.
See what you think of these tweaked ones.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkkz61mwjxjsqbk/waves.zip?dl=1

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch


Hi, Bhavya.

Thanks for the link to your blog, which is quite good, by the way. Yes, I'm familiar with substituting the default wav files for ones which might be preferable. I may do that but was just wondering what people felt about the existing earcons being used in the test branch.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info<http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info>
On 6/30/2017 1:09 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:

Hi David,
Not sure about the Sounds Applet in Windows, but customization of NVDA
sounds is certainly possible, although in a slightly hacky and
unofficial (but not unethical or illegal) way. Check out the third
trick which deals with this very task of my recent blog post 'Top 5
NVDA Tips and Tricks You Need To Know' located at
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/top-5-nvda-tips-and-tricks-you-need-to-know/
Thanks.

On 6/30/17, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com><mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:


Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed
to this list and have been off of it for quite some time.

I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent
version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the
sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I
wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced.

I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing
users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as
you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen
reader.


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Re: Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird

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Yes I had this issue in another email platform with mail newsletters generated by my local thetre and Londoncouncils, both I think used mail Chimp or something. This made all the graphics links have no text or instead have a several line long pointless unhelpful tag.
If you complain at these people you get the sort of reply. I have no idea how this stuff works we just port it over from a pdf file.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue reading HTML email in Thunderbird


Make sure you have thunderbird set to show simple html, this will
prevent several issues with spammers, but will also allow NVDA to read
things a bit better.

With the full blown html, there are things that NVDA doesn't handle
well, though it's rarely NVDA's fault, it's the html code that folks
haven't a clue how to writ themselves, so they use programs to generate
it for them, and some programs don't do a very good job of generating
html code that is standards compliant.
This may not solve your problem entirely, but it probably will help.

On 6/30/2017 6:23 AM, Justine wrote:
Hi
I can no longer get NVDA to read my HTML emails in Thunderbird one
line at a time. This means it is impossible for me to edit parts of
the email. It will only read the email from start to finish. It is a
HTML table with several rows. It won't even read one character at a
time, only the whole table.
May be a very simple answer but I am not a tech genius and cannot find
an answer in the user guide. As I am running a business from home this
issue is causing great frustration. Worked perfectly fine in the past
and fine in plain text emails.
Not sure if issues started with latest update of NVDA as have auto
update on, same with Thunderbird, so all current versions installed.
Using desktop with Windows 10.
Or it may have changed as every so often NVDA crashes and resets to
factory defaults. And will not re install my saved profile as well for
some reason and as so many preferences I cannot remember them all! So
perhaps just needs the right option ticked in settings. But which one?
Please help, thanks
Justine



Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

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Oh gawd, whyever not. What a silly restriction.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@wfu.edu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Yes that's correct.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I've read somewhere that W10 Home machines cannot be on the remote end of a
Remote Desktop connection, only W10 Pro, is this the case?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan
Milam
Sent: 30 June 2017 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure your
computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can be in an
active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all logged in locally,
then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my local
network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs
a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote
system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the
remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred
between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
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Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add
on was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when
I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber

















Re: Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch

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Yes I raised this as well. also a person who was hard of hearing said there was not enough lf in the sound for focus mode and it was quiet. also the start and end sounds need to be a little longer as it is hard to decide if they are rising and falling with such a short sound.

I did put up some alternatives derived from the new sounds but nobody in authority commented or has changed them. Perhaps you could make a new issue about it and I'll add my thoughts as well?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch


Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed to this list and have been off of it for quite some time.

I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced.

I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen reader.


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Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

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Google is a bit of an odd ball though. I've not the foggiest how, for example one might do the same on bt or virgi webmail to get imap to work how you want it to. I can recall that simply copying stuff to the spam folder on google would in effect make sure all stuff like that went to spam.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


I'll say it again, it's best to set up message filtering for IMAP on your IMAP server side, regardless of the provider. It's a part of the protocol and it's on the server side so that the filtering you do and the folders you create are automatically propagated across all devices you might ever use to access your e-mail. It saves you having to do this work again when you get a new computer, for instance, because it's all done on the server side.

For Gmail I wrote the following instructions a while back: Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail ( https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B98uELZbPFnOc0lacHNEa1NkaEk )
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Re: Important announcement: say goodbye to NVDA Add-ons list on Freelists

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Yes well all list servers seem to be struggling at the moment. Whether this isdue to isps using more stringent black listing or not I am not sure but its very hit and miss.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Important announcement: say goodbye to NVDA Add-ons list on Freelists


Dear NVDA community:



In June 2017, citing bouncing and other problems, the add-ons community
announced migration of NVDA Add-ons list from Freelists to Groups.IO. Apart
from porting the archive from the old to the new facility, list migration is
complete.



Background: In 2012, NV Access unveiled NVDA 2012.2, bringing with it a
completely new way of extending NVDA: add-ons. The response was phenomenal:
it spurred innovations in the NVDA community through add-ons, with add-on
authors forming a community in May 2013 to coordinate add-on reviews,
release announcements, and share tips and tricks. This community was
initially hosted at Freelists until June 2017 when bouncing issues and other
problems caused the community to consider migrating to Groups.IO, a new
mailing list provider that offers tons of features such as group wiki,
databases, hashtags in messages, subgroups and so on.



To subscribe to Groups.IO NVDA Add-ons list, send an email to
nvda-addons+subscribe@groups.io <mailto:nvda-addons+subscribe@groups.io> .
When asked to confirm, please do confirm.



With the list migration complete, the following will take place:



Freelists version:

1. -I (Joseph Lee), the director (owner) of the NVDA Add-ons Freelists
list, hereby declare Freelists list closed, effective immediately.
2. I advise everyone on the Freelists list to unsubscribe immediately.
To do so, send an email to nvda-addons-request@freelists.org
<mailto:nvda-addons-request@freelists.org> with the subject line of
"unsubscribe" (without quotes) and confirm if requested.
3. Anyone left by July 15, 2017 will be unsubscribed automatically
unless you are having difficulty signing up for Groups.IO list.
4. Archives of Freelists will be preserved as a historical artifact. I
do have the offline copy of the list archive and am working on moving that
to Groups.IO version.
5. References to Freelists add-ons list will be modified to point to
the new list.



Groups.IO version:

1. The community will start accepting review requests. When doing so,
please use #AddonReview hashtag. See the hashtags list below for details.
2. An internal database will be used by the community to record add-on
information such as name, author, version and notes from the community.
3. The RSS feeds from the add-ons website
(https://addons.nvda-project.org) will be sent to add-ons list as an
integration. This is useful for add-on authors to announce release of an
add-on.



NVDA Add-ons forum organization:

* Owner/director: Joseph Lee
* Owner/NV Access rep: James "Jamie" Teh
* Moderators/add-on review directors: Noelia Martinez, Derek Riemer,
James Scholes
* Anyone can serve as reviewers. Noelia, Derek and James S will serve
as chief reviewers and will coordinate reviews and reviewers.



Hashtags list (Groups.IO):

* #AdminNotice: important announcements from admins and moderators.
* #AddonRelease: reserved for add-on release announcements.
* #AddonTesting: information on add-on development and snapshots.
* #AddonReview: reserved for add-on review requests and responses.



And with that, let us say goodbye to the old list and say hello to the new
list.

Cheers,

Joseph



Joseph S. Lee

Student (communication), California State University, Los Angeles

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen
reader project

Certified NVDA Expert, 2017


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

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No neither did I withith windows 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mehler" <dave.mehler@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my
local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a
NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via
remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote
desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing
control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local
and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
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Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the
accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the
other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber










Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

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Well is this in all flavours of windows in use at the moment or just 10. Last time I tried it it failed on 7, but somebody else said it was very laggy.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just needs a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the remote system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can manage the remote computer. Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being transferred between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
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Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add on was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop, the
copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but when I
press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I press
insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer, the the
NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am in
Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my home
computer responds by reading the title of the window where my home
computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber



Re: Incorrect Keystroke in Excel Training

Debbie April Yuille
 

Who put this training out? That's not very good if the mistake wasn't found
by the trainer.

Debbie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Incorrect Keystroke in Excel Training

In section 3.7
"Adding Headers"
an incorrect keystroke is given.
The text states:

To set the column containing row headers, move to the first cell that
contains a row heading. Next, press NVDA+control+r. In the plant example,
column A contains the name of the plant in each row. Setting this as the row
headers means NVDA reads the name of each plant while navigating down the
rows.

This keystroke is incorrect. the paragraph should read:

To set the column containing row headers, move to the first cell that
contains a row heading. Next, press NVDA+shift+r. In the plant example,
column A contains the name of the plant in each row. Setting this as the row
headers means NVDA reads the name of each plant while navigating down the
rows.

The text should be corrected, or should have an erata page at leats, with
this information.


Incorrect Keystroke in Excel Training

Rob
 

In section 3.7
"Adding Headers"
an incorrect keystroke is given.
The text states:

To set the column containing row headers, move to the first cell that contains a row heading. Next, press NVDA+control+r. In the plant example, column A contains the name of the plant in each row. Setting this as the row headers means NVDA reads the name of each plant while navigating down the rows.

This keystroke is incorrect. the paragraph should read:

To set the column containing row headers, move to the first cell that contains a row heading. Next, press NVDA+shift+r. In the plant example, column A contains the name of the plant in each row. Setting this as the row headers means NVDA reads the name of each plant while navigating down the rows.

The text should be corrected, or should have an erata page at leats, with this information.


Queueing of notification announcements

Jacob Kruger
 

This is a minor thought, but, for example, if while doing a read all on the contents of a mail that have opened up in thunderbird, it may still be downloading mails in the background, and will then interrupt speech to announce that I have received new mails.


As in, it would be nice if that announcement could be queued for speaking out when current bit of reading has completed, or is interrupted?


And, yes, at times this might not be suitable, if you wanted an announcement to take priority, but, not sure how that could be controlled/handled.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I got it.




On 6/30/2017 9:17 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I'll say it again, it's best to set up message filtering for IMAP on your IMAP server side, regardless of the provider.  It's a part of the protocol and it's on the server side so that the filtering you do and the folders you create are automatically propagated across all devices you might ever use to access your e-mail.  It saves you having to do this work again when you get a new computer, for instance, because it's all done on the server side.

For Gmail I wrote the following instructions a while back:  Creating IMAP Labels (Folders) and Filters for Gmail
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displaying braille problem #addonrelease

Haipeng Hu <hhpcomposer@...>
 

Hello,
  I just found a problem with NVDA and the braille tables. I use FreedomScientific Pac Mate display, and a friend of me uses a display from Taiwan. We all have problems with reading .brf files, where all codes from A to Z are capital letters, and are displayed with dot 7. We tried the 6-dot tables, but in vain. All such things still display as 8-dot. Jaws also has this problem with Louis, but it has an option to turn 8-dot braille off. Could someone please tell me whether I can toggle 8 and 6 dots in NVDA? Or must I manually replace all capital letters to lowercased ones?

Regards
Haipeng


Re: having trouble reading messages in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,


I got the problem solved. Yes, cursor navigation does work. I'll try what you suggested next time that happens.


Thanks.


Rosemarie




On 6/30/2017 4:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Rosemarie.

If this happens, try pressing the alt key to move to the menus and then press the alt key a second time to move away from the menu bar back to the message. Does cursor navigation work?

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 6/30/2017 5:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyonwe,


I don't know what's going on in thunderbird but when I hit enter on a message, all I get is "message document". What could be going on?


Thanks for your help in aadvance.


Rosemarie









Re: having trouble reading messages in thunderbird

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Rosemarie.

If this happens, try pressing the alt key to move to the menus and then press the alt key a second time to move away from the menu bar back to the message. Does cursor navigation work?

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 6/30/2017 5:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyonwe,


I don't know what's going on in thunderbird but when I hit enter on a message, all I get is "message document". What could be going on?


Thanks for your help in aadvance.


Rosemarie








Re: having trouble reading messages in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Andre,


I think I figured out what the problemis. I forgot to select the documentbefore reading it.


Rosemarie

On 6/30/2017 2:43 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:
What happens when you press the arrow keys?

On 6/30/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, everyonwe,


I don't know what's going on in thunderbird but when I hit enter on a
message, all I get is "message document". What could be going on?


Thanks for your help in aadvance.


Rosemarie







Re: having trouble reading messages in thunderbird

Andre Fisher
 

What happens when you press the arrow keys?

On 6/30/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, everyonwe,


I don't know what's going on in thunderbird but when I hit enter on a
message, all I get is "message document". What could be going on?


Thanks for your help in aadvance.


Rosemarie







having trouble reading messages in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyonwe,


I don't know what's going on in thunderbird but when I hit enter on a message, all I get is "message document". What could be going on?


Thanks for your help in aadvance.


Rosemarie


Re: NVDA and Remote Desktop

Chris Mullins
 

I get as far as entering the ip address of a computer within my workgroup, pressing enter on the connect button and it opens a window which NVDA announces as 'Input capture window' then NVDA shuts up, I can't get any interaction with the window, so don't know what to do with it. Any ideas?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: 30 June 2017 19:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello Jonathan,

Thank you for your suggestion. The one about logging in locally that's all i've got, I unfortunately do not have a Microsoft Domain, wish I did. The machines are all win10 pro.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu> wrote:
Yes that's correct.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I've read somewhere that W10 Home machines cannot be on the remote end
of a Remote Desktop connection, only W10 Pro, is this the case?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Milam
Sent: 30 June 2017 16:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hi David,

The key to making this work successfully is that you have to be sure
your computers are all logged in locally. That is, none of them can
be in an active Microsoft remote desktop session. If they are all
logged in locally, then it should work for you. Does that help?

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Mehler
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

Hello,

Can someone do a tutorial/podcast on Nvda and windows remote desktop?
I'm trying to get that going on machines that are connected to my
local network and not having any success.

Thanks.
Dave.


On 6/30/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Hi Brian,
Windows Remote Desktop connection works great with NVDA. It just
needs a NVDA copy installed on the remote computer. I log into the
remote system via remote desktop, hit control-alt-n and then I can
manage the remote computer.
Windows remote desktop sends the sound back to me, since windows
remote desktop deals with sound redirection as well.
You can switch between the remote desktop and your own desktop by
pressing control-alt-pause and also the clipboard is being
transferred between local and remote computer.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Freitag, 30. Juni 2017 10:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop

I'm not really sure what you are trying to achieve. I was under the
impression that remote desktop cannot be used with screenreaders as
the accessibility informatio is not sent down the line, just the
graphics of the other computers screen, which is why nvda remote add
on was designed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Huber" <kevin.huber1@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 4:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Remote Desktop


Hi:

I have a copy of NVDA here on my home computer and a copy of NVDA on
my office computer.

If I access my office computer from my PC through Remote Desktop,
the copy of NVDA on my Office computer reads as I expect it to, but
when I press insert-t to here the title of the windo, or when I
press insert-q to shut down the copy of NVDA on my office computer,
the the NVDA on my home compyuter responds, for instance, when I am
in Microsoft Word on my office computer, and I press insert-t, my
home computer responds by reading the title of the window where my
home computer has focus.
What can I do to stop this behaviour and make the NVDA on myy home
computer relinquish control of my keyboard?
Kevin Huber



















Re: how do I download messages from the imap server?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Tony,

Outlook just isn't working for me. I tried what you suggested and it didn't work. I'm using windows live mail to write this message. I think I'm gonna ditch outlook and stay with windows live as long as I can. Can you recommend another program if windows live doesn't work anymore?

Thanks.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?

Hi Rosemarie,


It helps Absolutely! I've been doing some checking, and I believe this
will work. Go to the system tray and from there arrow over to the
speakers button. Once there press the context menu button and arrow
down to the sounds option and press enter on that.


If you've ever been in the sound schemes tree view, you will recognize
it. From here, you can tab over to the list of sound events to see if
the mil notification sound is active or not. if it's not, you can assign
the windows default sound to play, or browse for the sound of your
choice. If the default sound is there, you can test it to see if it
works, and if so, apply it. If it doesn't function properly, try to
reassign it. If that doesn't work, test out a sound of your choice. If
you have a sound library of custom sounds, use one of those. Hopefully
this helps. I'm going to be on the road for the holiday, but I will
check in later to see how things are going.


Tony





On 6/30/2017 3:48 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I'm running the windows 10 creators update and the latest version of
NVDA. Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message----- From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?

Hi Rosemarie,


Oh dear. Let's see if we can figure things out and get them back to
being peachy. What operating system are you using? I have to know this
before I devise a plan of attack. I have windows 10 running on both my
systems just to be fair. Kind of like that game you show me yours, I'll
show you mine



Tony

On 6/30/2017 1:54 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I lost the sound in outlook so I'm using the gmail site to write this
message. I don't know how to get the mail notification sound back. I
think what happened was when I set up message rules, the sound went
away so now I have everything going to the inbox.

Rosemarie



On 6/29/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,


Ok, That's great. They know their stuff. I use them to help me in
sticky
situations.


Tony

On 6/29/2017 11:11 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Tony,

I'm using outlook but the microsoft disability line person helped me
set it
up.

Thanks.

Rosemarie



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 2:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I download messages from the imap server?


Hi Rosemarie,



Which email client are you working in. Don't want to give you the wrong
advice here.



Tony
On 6/29/2017 12:08 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,

How do I download message from the imap server?

Thanks.

Rosemarie