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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Chris Mullins
 

Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Have you considered a talking windows PE?  p e stands for preinstallation environment.  The ones I use can be found here:
There are environments for windows 7 and 10; 32 and 64 bit versions.
The installers create an image that can be burned onto a dvd or they create a bootable image on USB device such as a flash drive and therein lies the possible difficulty.  You may or may not need sighted assistance to get your computer to boot from a dvd or usb device.
Many computers have a key you can press repeatedly right after powerup that puts you into a boot menu.  Use the up and down arrows to highlight the boot device you want and press enter.  The boot menu does not talk, of course. If you don’t have sighted help, you will have to try each item in turn until you find the one you need.
The computers with boot menus that I’ve used have all booted to windows if I choose a boot option that is not available or does not contain a bootable image.
 
I freely admit that the number of computers I’ve worked on is a miniscule subset of all the computers in the world so proceed at your own risk.
 
If your computer doesn’t have a boot menu, you will have to change the boot order in the bios or UeFI.  You will almost certainly need assistance to do that.
 
When you boot into the preinstallation environment, you will be in a stripped-down version of windows.  If you use the PEs that I do, NVDA will load and speak with the default Espeak voice.  There are lots of useful tools on that windows desktop including two partition managers that will allow you to select a drive and partition and format that partition. 
 
But it’s even easier than that.  Everything you need for speech is on a ramdrive.  You can insert a windows installation disk and start the new install with speech.
 
I will not post further on this thread as it is off topic for this list.  Feel free to write me off list and I’ll do my best to answer your questions.  Better yet, subscribe to the techtalk list on groups.io techtalk+subscribe@groups.io for all the help you’ll need.  The list owner created these PEs and can answer all your questions.
 
Hth,
George


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Amen! I, too, can't believe thatin this day and age on the internet people can be so sloppy about security. It'slike leaving both your front and back door open for thugs to enter and do as they please.

Jacques

On 08/07/2017 17:33, Travis Siegel wrote:
Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer. Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system. Bad, bad, bad. Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so. Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.


On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...










Re: Way Off Topic!!!

 

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 08:34 am, Travis Siegel wrote:
It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.
Amen, amen, amen!!

However, only when in that precise combination.  With UAC not turned off I am far less worried about running using an account with admin privileges because you still get prompted before anything will actually run with them.  The pop-up is not significantly different than if you have a standard account, but you can either allow or block without having to enter an admin username and password.

I have been running under an admin account on every Windows machine I use for decades now because I have need to install/uninstall software and do other tweaks far too frequently to be bothered with getting the full "enter username and password" prompt for admin tasks under a standard account.

If you routinely follow even half of the recommendations of quietman7 in his treatise, Best practices for safe computing, and you keep UAC on at default levels the likelihood of getting an infection is very, very, very low.

The above being said, if you are not a user who makes frequent changes to your system it is best practice to have one account with admin privileges used only when you need them and a standard account for your day-to-day computing.  There are just some folks for whom this might not be a good fit - I'm one of them.
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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

David Goldfield
 

I'd like to second Travis's recommendations. For my day-to-day computer tasks, such as reading and answering emails, Web surfing, document composition, etc., I use a standard account with the user account control at its highest setting. When I want to perform computer maintenance, I log onto my admin account. This doesn't guarantee I won't get hit with anything but I try to do all that I can do to minimize the risk.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 7/8/2017 11:33 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer.  Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system.  Bad, bad, bad.  Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so.  Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.


On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

    I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

    It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

    I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

    Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

      How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

      I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

      For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

      Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


-- 
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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer. Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system. Bad, bad, bad. Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so. Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.

On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...







Re: My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

And besides, I have to completely disagree that jaws doesn't require add-ons.  Everytime you use a script in jaws (which nearly every program does) you're using the equivalent of an NVDA add-on.

So, saying you won't use add-ons isn't doing you (or us) any favors, since you're going to keep asking here to accomplish things, then disregard said information because it will sometimes requie an add-on. 


On 7/8/2017 9:44 AM, Gene wrote:
Add ons, except for features found in the Windows 10 add on, will almost never be added to NVDA as included features.  You are creating problems and inconveniences for yourself that are entirely of your own making.  You refuse to even try add ons and insist on not using them and you have stated that you don't use add ons many times.
 
I won't write about this again, but I'm writing specifically in response to your message to try to get you to consider at least trying add ons.  Are the probably thousands of people who use NVDA add ons and who report no problems all wrong?  Doesn't that make you at least wonder if your refusal is logical and makes sense?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

i wish that i had these useful addons in nvda installation file by default.
like jaws which does not require any addon.
for me, knowing the version of programs, knowing about copy, peist cut
and also some feature that i can copy all of my desire parts of file
and peist them together i need.
when i copy some part of file, i should peist and again select second
part to copy and peist.

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
> Yes to a point this is so, but its not exactly fast to do.
>  I'm not using it at the moment but if you want a player that, out of the
> box will play almost everything without oodles of codecs it is very good.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>
>
> Hi Nasrin!
> You do not need the add on. I believe you can find the repeat and shuffle
> features in the play back menu of VLC!
> Take care!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 2:39 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>
> and one question more and i appreciate you/
> how can i use vlc player without addon?
> i need the repeate and shuffle feature.
> thanks so much and God bless you.
>
> On 7/8/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
>> hi david.
>> thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
>> could you please email me the list privately?
>> i am afraid that i lose it and cant find them again.
>> i send for people who say nvda is not useful and only jaws is the best
>> screen reader which we can do everything we want and provide our need
>> and jaws only has our desired features.
>>
>> On 7/8/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
>>> Strange you are not using the Systray addon that replicate the
>>> Insert+F11
>>> of
>>>
>>> Jaws...
>>>
>>> Rui
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Mensagem Original-----
>>> De: David Moore
>>> Data: 7 de julho de 2017 23:30
>>> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Assunto: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I use NVDA 30 percent more, because of these add ons.
>>>
>>> Here are my favorite add ons, and I explain why!
>>>
>>> Here is the list!
>>>
>>> NVDA add ons I love the most and why.
>>>
>>> I want to share with all of you, which add ons really impress me the
>>> most,
>>> and the ones I am getting the most use out of by using them.
>>>
>>> Number One:
>>>
>>> Clip Contents Designer; Status: running; Version: 3.5; Author: Noelia
>>> Ruiz
>>> Martínez <nrm1977@...>
>>>
>>> I very often want to copy some material, and append more material to the
>>> clipboard. I do this a lot to edit and create tutorials.
>>>
>>> I love this add on, and it helps me a lot. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number two:
>>>
>>> Clipspeak; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Damien Sykes-Lindley
>>> <damien@...>  2 of 17
>>>
>>> It gives me such peace of mind to hear what I have on the clip board,
>>> before
>>>
>>> I paste it somewhere. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number three:
>>>
>>> Enhanced Aria; Status: running; Version: 1.3-dev; Author: Jose Manuel
>>> Delicado <jmdaweb@...>
>>>
>>> I can now use two great TV web sites to stream movies and TV shows,
>>> because
>>>
>>> this add on lets me access the ARIA That I need to enjoy these streaming
>>> web
>>>
>>> sites. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number four:
>>>
>>> Golden Cursor moves the mouse with the keyboard; Status: running;
>>> Version:
>>> 1.0-dev; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@...>, Wafeeq Taher  5 of
>>> 17
>>>
>>> I want all to know how much I use this add on. Here is an example.
>>>
>>> My wife will move the mouse pointer to a place that I cannot find. I can
>>> then press a command to hear what pixel position the mouse pointer is
>>> on.
>>> I
>>>
>>> can save that pixel position, and my wife never has to put the mouse
>>> pointer
>>>
>>> there again. I just press a command, and it brings up all saved mouse
>>> pointer positions that I have saved. I label my saved pixel positions,
>>> like
>>>
>>> fast forward in Groove, for example. I can open the list of saved pixel
>>> positions, and arrow to that Groove button, and press enter, and the
>>> actual
>>>
>>> mouse pointer goes right there.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, you cannot get the mouse pointer to route to where the review
>>> cursor is located, and with one time of sighted assistance, you can save
>>> the
>>>
>>> pixel position where the sighted person put the mouse pointer, and you
>>> can
>>> go back there yourself from then on. Thank you very much, and I pray you
>>> keep developing and supporting this add on!
>>>
>>> Number five:
>>>
>>> Lambda math editor addon; Status: running; Version: 1.1.8-dev; Author:
>>> Alberto Zanella <lapostadialberto@...>  6 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on, has allowed me to tutor highr math concepts on my on line
>>> math
>>>
>>> tutoring business to sighted people.
>>>
>>> I am getting access to more hier math topics, and I can use this add on
>>> to
>>> read the other person's work when they send it back to me. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number six:
>>>
>>> Place markers; Status: running; Version: 8.1-dev; Author: Noelia
>>> <nrm1977@...>, Chris <llajta2012@...>  7 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on has saved me so much time every day. Many times a day, I put
>>> a
>>> place marker somewhere that I will return to later. This is the place
>>> marker
>>>
>>> feature in JAWS. Thank you! This saves me a lot of time.
>>>
>>> Number Seven
>>>
>>> I absolutely love this add on. Many times, I am in a program when I want
>>> to
>>>
>>> here the version of the application. I really missed doing thiswith
>>> JAWS.
>>> Now, I can use this feature with NVDA. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Eight:
>>>
>>> Speak Passwords; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Tyler Spivey
>>> <tspivey@...>  10 of 17
>>>
>>> This is priceless. I love being to hear the characters I type in instead
>>> of
>>>
>>> hearing * for every character. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Nine:
>>>
>>> Speech history review and copying; Status: running; Version: 2017.05.13;
>>> Author: [u'Tyler Spivey', u'James Scholes']  11 of 17
>>>
>>> I love this add on. I am using it as I type this article. I down arrow
>>> through my add ons, and I just press F12 to paste what NVDA said to the
>>> clip
>>>
>>> board. Again, this is the speach history in JAWS. These add ons are
>>> allowing
>>>
>>> us to use NVDA and get these JAWS features. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Ten:
>>>
>>> Insert Symbols; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Erion
>>> <rob.mail@...>  12 of 17
>>>
>>> I can insert hundreds of symbols in a document, Facebook post, or email,
>>> that I never had to choose from with JAWS. There are so many symbols
>>> that
>>> you can choose from, I have not heard of many of them. I absolutely love
>>> this add on! Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Eleven:
>>>
>>> Virtual Review; Status: running; Version: 2.2; Author: Rui Batista
>>> <ruiandrebatista@...> and NVDA Addon Team  13 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on, speeds up tasks that I often do. It is not object
>>> navigation,
>>> but I can get access to text and more on the screen so quickly with this
>>> add
>>>
>>> on! Thank you!
>>>
>>> VLC Media Player; Status: running; Version: 1.2; Author: Javi Dominguez
>>> <fjavids@...>  14 of 17
>>>
>>> I love using VLC Media Player. This add on, allows me to tab and hear
>>> many
>>> of the controls on the screen, and I have access to the repeat and
>>> shuffle
>>> toggles. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Weather Plus; Status: running; Version: 4.4 15.06.2017; Author: Adriano
>>> Barbieri <adrianobarb@...>.  15 of 17
>>>
>>> I really love this weather add on. I use it constantly. My wife asks me
>>> about the weather. and I simply press NVDA+Shift+W and get the forcast.
>>> What
>>>
>>> I like most, is that it is copied to the clipboard, and I can paste the
>>> entire forecast into a text document like Note Pad.
>>>
>>> I love this add on, because I have many cities that I can find out the
>>> weather in. Thank you so much!
>>>
>>> Number Twelve
>>>
>>> Windows 10 App Essentials; Status: running; Version: 20170705-dev;
>>> Author:
>>> Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>, Derek Riemer
>>> <driemer.riemer@...> and others
>>>
>>> Thank you Joseph! I have used this add on to get much more accessibility
>>> in
>>>
>>> universal apps, the start area, settings app, and other places. This add
>>> on
>>>
>>> has allowed me to use many of the win10 universal apps for a long time!
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Thirteen:
>>>
>>> Windows 10 Calculator; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Joseph Lee
>>> <joseph.lee22590@...>  17 of 17
>>>
>>> I use the Windows 10 calculator all of the time. I do scientific
>>> calculations with it many times a day. This add on has really helped me
>>> a
>>> lot. Thank You!
>>>
>>> This is it!
>>>
>>> The summary, is that many features of JAWS are in these add ons. NVDA is
>>> much more powerful with these add ons, and I appreciate all of your time
>>> and
>>>
>>> work to make these add ons, and do all that you do for the NVDA
>>> community.
>>> I
>>>
>>> now use NVDA 90 percent of the time, because of these add ons. They have
>>> really made a difference, and I want you all to know!
>>>
>>> David Moore
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Gene
 

I'm not sure what it is called but you should be able to use a pre installation environment, though I don't think that is the name.  You can boot into Windows, not the Windows running on your machine, but into a stripped down version of Windows on the pre installation medium and install windows using the stripped down version.  Windows offers to format the drive as part of installation.  Or, with sighted help, you can install Windows directly and it will offer to format.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

As far as I know there is no way to reformat a disc that you are currently using as the boot disc from which you are running Windows.   Way back when you used to be able to open Command Prompt and do a "format C:" and it would work, for some value of work, because it demolished Windows in the process.  There's probably a way to override the protection that does not allow this to be done now, but I wouldn't.

As someone else has already suggested, the only way I know of to achieve your goal is to hook up the disc drive that you'd like to format to another computer as a secondary/external drive and do the format from there.

For myself, a straight install of Windows (whether 10 or earlier) using install media is going to replace anything that needs replacing and is starting afresh, for all practical intents and purposes.   It will not remove things like the recovery partition that's probably on your drive and that was placed there by the computer manufacturer.  If you want to blow all of that away you will definitely need to reformat and repartition the drive.  And if you're doing this on an old drive that had employed MBR and you're installing Windows 8 or Windows 10 you might want to consider using GPT instead.

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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

 

As far as I know there is no way to reformat a disc that you are currently using as the boot disc from which you are running Windows.   Way back when you used to be able to open Command Prompt and do a "format C:" and it would work, for some value of work, because it demolished Windows in the process.  There's probably a way to override the protection that does not allow this to be done now, but I wouldn't.

As someone else has already suggested, the only way I know of to achieve your goal is to hook up the disc drive that you'd like to format to another computer as a secondary/external drive and do the format from there.

For myself, a straight install of Windows (whether 10 or earlier) using install media is going to replace anything that needs replacing and is starting afresh, for all practical intents and purposes.   It will not remove things like the recovery partition that's probably on your drive and that was placed there by the computer manufacturer.  If you want to blow all of that away you will definitely need to reformat and repartition the drive.  And if you're doing this on an old drive that had employed MBR and you're installing Windows 8 or Windows 10 you might want to consider using GPT instead.

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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

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Re: My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

Gene
 

Add ons, except for features found in the Windows 10 add on, will almost never be added to NVDA as included features.  You are creating problems and inconveniences for yourself that are entirely of your own making.  You refuse to even try add ons and insist on not using them and you have stated that you don't use add ons many times.
 
I won't write about this again, but I'm writing specifically in response to your message to try to get you to consider at least trying add ons.  Are the probably thousands of people who use NVDA add ons and who report no problems all wrong?  Doesn't that make you at least wonder if your refusal is logical and makes sense?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

i wish that i had these useful addons in nvda installation file by default.
like jaws which does not require any addon.
for me, knowing the version of programs, knowing about copy, peist cut
and also some feature that i can copy all of my desire parts of file
and peist them together i need.
when i copy some part of file, i should peist and again select second
part to copy and peist.

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
> Yes to a point this is so, but its not exactly fast to do.
>  I'm not using it at the moment but if you want a player that, out of the
> box will play almost everything without oodles of codecs it is very good.
>  Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>
>
> Hi Nasrin!
> You do not need the add on. I believe you can find the repeat and shuffle
> features in the play back menu of VLC!
> Take care!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 2:39 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>
> and one question more and i appreciate you/
> how can i use vlc player without addon?
> i need the repeate and shuffle feature.
> thanks so much and God bless you.
>
> On 7/8/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
>> hi david.
>> thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
>> could you please email me the list privately?
>> i am afraid that i lose it and cant find them again.
>> i send for people who say nvda is not useful and only jaws is the best
>> screen reader which we can do everything we want and provide our need
>> and jaws only has our desired features.
>>
>> On 7/8/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
>>> Strange you are not using the Systray addon that replicate the
>>> Insert+F11
>>> of
>>>
>>> Jaws...
>>>
>>> Rui
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Mensagem Original-----
>>> De: David Moore
>>> Data: 7 de julho de 2017 23:30
>>> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Assunto: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I use NVDA 30 percent more, because of these add ons.
>>>
>>> Here are my favorite add ons, and I explain why!
>>>
>>> Here is the list!
>>>
>>> NVDA add ons I love the most and why.
>>>
>>> I want to share with all of you, which add ons really impress me the
>>> most,
>>> and the ones I am getting the most use out of by using them.
>>>
>>> Number One:
>>>
>>> Clip Contents Designer; Status: running; Version: 3.5; Author: Noelia
>>> Ruiz
>>> Martínez <nrm1977@...>
>>>
>>> I very often want to copy some material, and append more material to the
>>> clipboard. I do this a lot to edit and create tutorials.
>>>
>>> I love this add on, and it helps me a lot. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number two:
>>>
>>> Clipspeak; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Damien Sykes-Lindley
>>> <damien@...>  2 of 17
>>>
>>> It gives me such peace of mind to hear what I have on the clip board,
>>> before
>>>
>>> I paste it somewhere. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number three:
>>>
>>> Enhanced Aria; Status: running; Version: 1.3-dev; Author: Jose Manuel
>>> Delicado <jmdaweb@...>
>>>
>>> I can now use two great TV web sites to stream movies and TV shows,
>>> because
>>>
>>> this add on lets me access the ARIA That I need to enjoy these streaming
>>> web
>>>
>>> sites. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number four:
>>>
>>> Golden Cursor moves the mouse with the keyboard; Status: running;
>>> Version:
>>> 1.0-dev; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@...>, Wafeeq Taher  5 of
>>> 17
>>>
>>> I want all to know how much I use this add on. Here is an example.
>>>
>>> My wife will move the mouse pointer to a place that I cannot find. I can
>>> then press a command to hear what pixel position the mouse pointer is
>>> on.
>>> I
>>>
>>> can save that pixel position, and my wife never has to put the mouse
>>> pointer
>>>
>>> there again. I just press a command, and it brings up all saved mouse
>>> pointer positions that I have saved. I label my saved pixel positions,
>>> like
>>>
>>> fast forward in Groove, for example. I can open the list of saved pixel
>>> positions, and arrow to that Groove button, and press enter, and the
>>> actual
>>>
>>> mouse pointer goes right there.
>>>
>>> Sometimes, you cannot get the mouse pointer to route to where the review
>>> cursor is located, and with one time of sighted assistance, you can save
>>> the
>>>
>>> pixel position where the sighted person put the mouse pointer, and you
>>> can
>>> go back there yourself from then on. Thank you very much, and I pray you
>>> keep developing and supporting this add on!
>>>
>>> Number five:
>>>
>>> Lambda math editor addon; Status: running; Version: 1.1.8-dev; Author:
>>> Alberto Zanella <lapostadialberto@...>  6 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on, has allowed me to tutor highr math concepts on my on line
>>> math
>>>
>>> tutoring business to sighted people.
>>>
>>> I am getting access to more hier math topics, and I can use this add on
>>> to
>>> read the other person's work when they send it back to me. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number six:
>>>
>>> Place markers; Status: running; Version: 8.1-dev; Author: Noelia
>>> <nrm1977@...>, Chris <llajta2012@...>  7 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on has saved me so much time every day. Many times a day, I put
>>> a
>>> place marker somewhere that I will return to later. This is the place
>>> marker
>>>
>>> feature in JAWS. Thank you! This saves me a lot of time.
>>>
>>> Number Seven
>>>
>>> I absolutely love this add on. Many times, I am in a program when I want
>>> to
>>>
>>> here the version of the application. I really missed doing thiswith
>>> JAWS.
>>> Now, I can use this feature with NVDA. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Eight:
>>>
>>> Speak Passwords; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Tyler Spivey
>>> <tspivey@...>  10 of 17
>>>
>>> This is priceless. I love being to hear the characters I type in instead
>>> of
>>>
>>> hearing * for every character. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Nine:
>>>
>>> Speech history review and copying; Status: running; Version: 2017.05.13;
>>> Author: [u'Tyler Spivey', u'James Scholes']  11 of 17
>>>
>>> I love this add on. I am using it as I type this article. I down arrow
>>> through my add ons, and I just press F12 to paste what NVDA said to the
>>> clip
>>>
>>> board. Again, this is the speach history in JAWS. These add ons are
>>> allowing
>>>
>>> us to use NVDA and get these JAWS features. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Ten:
>>>
>>> Insert Symbols; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Erion
>>> <rob.mail@...>  12 of 17
>>>
>>> I can insert hundreds of symbols in a document, Facebook post, or email,
>>> that I never had to choose from with JAWS. There are so many symbols
>>> that
>>> you can choose from, I have not heard of many of them. I absolutely love
>>> this add on! Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Eleven:
>>>
>>> Virtual Review; Status: running; Version: 2.2; Author: Rui Batista
>>> <ruiandrebatista@...> and NVDA Addon Team  13 of 17
>>>
>>> This add on, speeds up tasks that I often do. It is not object
>>> navigation,
>>> but I can get access to text and more on the screen so quickly with this
>>> add
>>>
>>> on! Thank you!
>>>
>>> VLC Media Player; Status: running; Version: 1.2; Author: Javi Dominguez
>>> <fjavids@...>  14 of 17
>>>
>>> I love using VLC Media Player. This add on, allows me to tab and hear
>>> many
>>> of the controls on the screen, and I have access to the repeat and
>>> shuffle
>>> toggles. Thank you!
>>>
>>> Weather Plus; Status: running; Version: 4.4 15.06.2017; Author: Adriano
>>> Barbieri <adrianobarb@...>.  15 of 17
>>>
>>> I really love this weather add on. I use it constantly. My wife asks me
>>> about the weather. and I simply press NVDA+Shift+W and get the forcast.
>>> What
>>>
>>> I like most, is that it is copied to the clipboard, and I can paste the
>>> entire forecast into a text document like Note Pad.
>>>
>>> I love this add on, because I have many cities that I can find out the
>>> weather in. Thank you so much!
>>>
>>> Number Twelve
>>>
>>> Windows 10 App Essentials; Status: running; Version: 20170705-dev;
>>> Author:
>>> Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>, Derek Riemer
>>> <driemer.riemer@...> and others
>>>
>>> Thank you Joseph! I have used this add on to get much more accessibility
>>> in
>>>
>>> universal apps, the start area, settings app, and other places. This add
>>> on
>>>
>>> has allowed me to use many of the win10 universal apps for a long time!
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Number Thirteen:
>>>
>>> Windows 10 Calculator; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Joseph Lee
>>> <joseph.lee22590@...>  17 of 17
>>>
>>> I use the Windows 10 calculator all of the time. I do scientific
>>> calculations with it many times a day. This add on has really helped me
>>> a
>>> lot. Thank You!
>>>
>>> This is it!
>>>
>>> The summary, is that many features of JAWS are in these add ons. NVDA is
>>> much more powerful with these add ons, and I appreciate all of your time
>>> and
>>>
>>> work to make these add ons, and do all that you do for the NVDA
>>> community.
>>> I
>>>
>>> now use NVDA 90 percent of the time, because of these add ons. They have
>>> really made a difference, and I want you all to know!
>>>
>>> David Moore
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




excel and say all command

J.G
 

Hi,

is it intentional that say all command in excel does not work neither in focus mode nor in browse mode?
I would like to know this before I file a ticket.

thx.

regards, Jožef

p.s. tested with NVDA (nextsnap) and excel 2016 (64-bit)


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Carlos
 

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!

On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
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--
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Re: Tutorial for using the MS edge browser with NVDA

Sakina
 

Hello David,

Thank you so much for giving all these step by step tutorials on the list which are so useful to someone like me who is just exploring and at times is scared to try out new things due to lack of knowledge.

I understand them well and gradually improve myself. Thank you again.

With best wishes always

sakina

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial for using the MS edge browser with NVDA

 

Hi Rosemarie!

I will certainly do that, and have it to you by next week. I will put it on the list as well.

Thanks a lot, Rosemarie for suggesting that.

Have a great one!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial for using the MS edge browser with NVDA

 

Hi, David,

 

I think an audio tutorial on edge would be great too just like you did with google chrome.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Tutorial for using the MS edge browser with NVDA

 

Hi all!

I am excited to paste this tutorial on using the MS Edge browser with NVDA right here in the message. I strongly welcome all feed back.

I tell you everything I heard as I used the Alt+X command, which gave me a menu a lot like the Chrome menu. I did some simple Object navigation to get to the important Hub button, which opens up a five tab dialog to work with favorites and all.

I used NVDA 2017.2, latest stable update.

I used the creators update of Win10 the latest public build.

I used the latest update of Joseph’s Win10 assentials add on.

I could access about 90 percent of what I can in crome.

This tutorial is very short, but comprehensive.

Here it is right below.

Tutorial for Microsoft Edge

I will write this tutorial using NVDA only. I found NVDA to work much better with Edge than with Narrator.

I am using the Latest stable version of NVDA 2017.2.

I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.

If you are using anything different than that, you might get different results.

Step Number One:

Opening the Edge Browser:

Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type Edge and enter when NVDA announces it.

Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.

Step Number Two:

I pressed CTRL+L and entered:

www.freedomscientific.com

That is the site for Freedom Scientific.

The web site came up very quickly.

I can use all navigation keys for other browsers, and they all work.

Now, I will now press ALT+X to open a menu of choices. One of these choices is settings.

I will now assign a home page to open everytime I launch the Edge browser.

I will make my home page:

www.google.com

Press enter on Settings.

Next, start tabbing, and you will hear:

change my default button, Choose a theme, Next, there is a combo box where you can choose open Edge with a certain page or pages.

This is the choice I will choose in this combo box. I just entered on that choice, and the combo box closed.

Next, there is an edit box where I typed:

www.google.com

My home page is now set.

Tab again, and you can delete that home page, add button where you can enter other home pages, Open new tabs with :

This is another combo box where I choose blank page.

Tab again, and you hear import from another browser. You can import all book marks from all other browsers you use.

Show the favorites bar, mine is not checked. I do not want my favorites to show on the screen for all to see LOL!

Next, choose what to clear button. Pressing enter on this, allows you to choose where you want to clear such as browsing history, and that. You can also choose whether this should be cleared every time you close the Edge browser.

Tab, and I hear my MS email, and it is a link.

Tab, and you hear sinc your favorites and book lists. You can sink all of these across all of your devices.

I am just tabbing through the settings dialog. That is it.

Tab, and you hear sync device settings. Next, you hear advanced settings.

Go ahead and enter on the advanced settings. There is a lot you can customise here.

First, block popups, you can check or uncheck.

Next, I hear Use adobe flash player, and it is checked.

Next, open sites in apps, and it is checked.

Next, choose what sites open in apps. I am not sure what this is all about. It sounds powerfful.

Next, I hear change button, not sure what that is.

Ask me what to do with each download, and that is check for me.

Open proxy settings.

Manage button.

Learn more link.

Offer to save ppasswords, and mine is checked.

Manage passwords button.

Save form entries, and mine is checked.

Do not track requests, and mine is unchecked.

Have cortana assist me in MS Edge, and mine is checked.

Change search  engin button. I entered on that, and a combo box came up, and I chose Google, and I pressed enter. Now, Google is my default search engin instead of bing.

Show site and search suggestions as I type, and mine is unchecked. If you want suggestions as you type, checked this.

Clear bing search history link.

This allows you to do just that.

Optamise web search results using the taskbar for screen readers. Mine is checked.

Cookies combo box, mine is set to do not block.

Let sites save protective media licenses on my device, and mine is checked.

Use page prediction to speed up browsing, and mine is checked.

Help me to protect myself from malicious web sites and downloads using Windows Defender, and mine is checked.

Pin this pain button.

Next, back button.

If you change any of these advanced settings, you can tab to the back button to go back to where you were.

I entered on the back button, and I am back to the settings dialog where I was, when I pressed enter on advanced settings.

We are done with settings, and the advanced settings. You see, just by pressing enter on settings, we were able to simply tab through all of these settings, and press enter on the advanced settings, and customise Edge to your liking, just like you can in other browsers.

Settings was in the menu that comes up by pressing ALT+X. This menu of choices is a lot like the Chrome menu that you get by pressing the Alt key.

There are many choices in that ALT+X menu, that I encourage you to just arrow through, just like the Chrome menu. Important, I have to press Escape twice to get out of the settings or this menu to get back to my Freedom Scientific page that I have opened.

Now, I will use object navigation to show you how to get to the Hub.

The hub button, opens up five tabs. You can just press CTRL+Tab to tab through the choices of each of these five tabs. It is just like a multi page dialog.

Now, I will press CTRL+Home to get to the top of the Freedom Scientific web site that I have opened.

Next, I will press NVDA+Numpad 8, to go up to my parent objects.

I first hear the page I am on. Now, Pressing Numpad 6, takes me to the navigation bar. That is the only object to the right.

So, Now, hold NVDA, and press numpad 4 to go left through the objects.

You hear the page you are on, then, Next, pressing numpad 4, you hear settings and more. That is the exact menu that you get by pressing ALT+X. Pressing NVDA+Enter will open the same menu we were just in.

Important, I have to press NVDA+Enter to activate these buttons, because I am using object navigation to access these controls.

Press numpad 4 again,

I hear Share, then Make a web note, and Now, the important hub.

I will now press NVDA+Enter on this hub button, and I will get this five tab dialog I told you about.

I hear:

Favorites tab, 1 of 5. So here we are in our favorites.

If I tab twice, I can arrow up and down through my favorites. In a web site, just press CTRL+D to save a favorite.

Now, I will press CTRL+TAB to get to the next dialog.

Next, I hear reading list tab. I have nothing here. This is probably for books that you download with Edge from the store.

CTRL+TAB again:

I hear Get Books, sign in, and shop for books in the store! This is exciting.

The 4th tab, is my history. I can delete my history, and look at my history here.

The 5th and last tab, is my downloads tab. Here is where you come to view your downloads, and check on the status of a download in progress.

So, that is it for the HUB button.

I pressed Escape to get out of Hub. We are still in these parent objects. Press NVDA+Numpad 4 again from Hub, I hear Add to favorites or reading list. Very interesting about the reading list.

Next, I hear my Web Address in the Address bar.

Refresh button, back button, Show tab previews button, Still pressing NVDA+Numpad 4.

Now, New tab button, My Freedom Scientific button, and then, Set tabs aside. Lastly, show tabs you have set aside. and that is it.

So, all that I just told you about, I accessed by just pressing CTRL+Home to get to the top of my web page, Pressed NVDA+Numpad 8, then, I kept pressing Numpad 4 with NVDA key held down. The Hub, was just a five tab dialog.

All navigation commands work in Edge, just like in other Browsers. I was able to listen to the FS pod casts by pressing shift+enter on the one below the one I wanted to listen to. To listen to the first, I had to press shift+enter on the second one. That was interesting.

I always press shift+enter to have a link open in a new window, instead of a new tab. The FS casts from Freedom Scientific, played with my Adobe Flash player.

As you can see, you can do quite a bit with Edge, by using the Latest NVDA public version, and just Doing a little bit of object navigation, and the menu that opens by pressing Alt+X.

Please give me your feed back, and how much you hear what I hear when tabbing and the like.

That is all for this tutorial.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


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off topic - windows talking installer

Richard Kuzma
 

If you are interested in installing windows with a talking installer,

You may want to check this site out.

I have used it many many times to install windows.

If you need any help please feel free to contact me off list.

My email is.

rmkuzma@...

 

here is the link for the info.

https://blog.bryansmart.com/

 

 

Good luck.

Rich

 

 


Tips for more effectively using MP3Gain with NVDA?

Gerardo Corripio
 

I've wanting some time to see if an AddOn could be developped for the better and more efficient use of the Mp3Gain program (it's for changing audio files' volume on the fly); the problem I'm having is when I press Control+t to get the volume levels of the files in question, and I want to look at the results list, I'm having trouble getting the focus on the results area. Any tips/tricks to more effectively get to this area with NVDA? Has anyone developped an AddOn for working better with Mp3Gain with NVDA?

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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Chris Mullins
 

When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Carlos,


If you have an external drive holder, I believe you could place the drive you want to format in it and format it that way and then put the drive back into a computer and with a specially adaptive Windows Disc, you could run the Windows install and designate the newly formatted drive as he install drive.

On 7/8/2017 5:57 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

It is possible to install windows by first using NVDA to start the process. And, once all is ready after a few hours you can activate narrator and complete the installation.

What I need is to totally reformat the hard drive so I can do a "true" clean install of windows!

So, it is all one query and not two separate queries.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 2:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
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Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
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Re: My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

 

i wish that i had these useful addons in nvda installation file by default.
like jaws which does not require any addon.
for me, knowing the version of programs, knowing about copy, peist cut
and also some feature that i can copy all of my desire parts of file
and peist them together i need.
when i copy some part of file, i should peist and again select second
part to copy and peist.

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
Yes to a point this is so, but its not exactly fast to do.
I'm not using it at the moment but if you want a player that, out of the
box will play almost everything without oodles of codecs it is very good.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!


Hi Nasrin!
You do not need the add on. I believe you can find the repeat and shuffle
features in the play back menu of VLC!
Take care!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

and one question more and i appreciate you/
how can i use vlc player without addon?
i need the repeate and shuffle feature.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 7/8/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi david.
thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
could you please email me the list privately?
i am afraid that i lose it and cant find them again.
i send for people who say nvda is not useful and only jaws is the best
screen reader which we can do everything we want and provide our need
and jaws only has our desired features.

On 7/8/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Strange you are not using the Systray addon that replicate the
Insert+F11
of

Jaws...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: David Moore
Data: 7 de julho de 2017 23:30
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!



Hi all,

I use NVDA 30 percent more, because of these add ons.

Here are my favorite add ons, and I explain why!

Here is the list!

NVDA add ons I love the most and why.

I want to share with all of you, which add ons really impress me the
most,
and the ones I am getting the most use out of by using them.

Number One:

Clip Contents Designer; Status: running; Version: 3.5; Author: Noelia
Ruiz
Martínez <nrm1977@...>

I very often want to copy some material, and append more material to the
clipboard. I do this a lot to edit and create tutorials.

I love this add on, and it helps me a lot. Thank you!

Number two:

Clipspeak; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Damien Sykes-Lindley
<damien@...> 2 of 17

It gives me such peace of mind to hear what I have on the clip board,
before

I paste it somewhere. Thank you!

Number three:

Enhanced Aria; Status: running; Version: 1.3-dev; Author: Jose Manuel
Delicado <jmdaweb@...>

I can now use two great TV web sites to stream movies and TV shows,
because

this add on lets me access the ARIA That I need to enjoy these streaming
web

sites. Thank you!

Number four:

Golden Cursor moves the mouse with the keyboard; Status: running;
Version:
1.0-dev; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@...>, Wafeeq Taher 5 of
17

I want all to know how much I use this add on. Here is an example.

My wife will move the mouse pointer to a place that I cannot find. I can
then press a command to hear what pixel position the mouse pointer is
on.
I

can save that pixel position, and my wife never has to put the mouse
pointer

there again. I just press a command, and it brings up all saved mouse
pointer positions that I have saved. I label my saved pixel positions,
like

fast forward in Groove, for example. I can open the list of saved pixel
positions, and arrow to that Groove button, and press enter, and the
actual

mouse pointer goes right there.

Sometimes, you cannot get the mouse pointer to route to where the review
cursor is located, and with one time of sighted assistance, you can save
the

pixel position where the sighted person put the mouse pointer, and you
can
go back there yourself from then on. Thank you very much, and I pray you
keep developing and supporting this add on!

Number five:

Lambda math editor addon; Status: running; Version: 1.1.8-dev; Author:
Alberto Zanella <lapostadialberto@...> 6 of 17

This add on, has allowed me to tutor highr math concepts on my on line
math

tutoring business to sighted people.

I am getting access to more hier math topics, and I can use this add on
to
read the other person's work when they send it back to me. Thank you!

Number six:

Place markers; Status: running; Version: 8.1-dev; Author: Noelia
<nrm1977@...>, Chris <llajta2012@...> 7 of 17

This add on has saved me so much time every day. Many times a day, I put
a
place marker somewhere that I will return to later. This is the place
marker

feature in JAWS. Thank you! This saves me a lot of time.

Number Seven

I absolutely love this add on. Many times, I am in a program when I want
to

here the version of the application. I really missed doing thiswith
JAWS.
Now, I can use this feature with NVDA. Thank you!

Number Eight:

Speak Passwords; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Tyler Spivey
<tspivey@...> 10 of 17

This is priceless. I love being to hear the characters I type in instead
of

hearing * for every character. Thank you!

Number Nine:

Speech history review and copying; Status: running; Version: 2017.05.13;
Author: [u'Tyler Spivey', u'James Scholes'] 11 of 17

I love this add on. I am using it as I type this article. I down arrow
through my add ons, and I just press F12 to paste what NVDA said to the
clip

board. Again, this is the speach history in JAWS. These add ons are
allowing

us to use NVDA and get these JAWS features. Thank you!

Number Ten:

Insert Symbols; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Erion
<rob.mail@...> 12 of 17

I can insert hundreds of symbols in a document, Facebook post, or email,
that I never had to choose from with JAWS. There are so many symbols
that
you can choose from, I have not heard of many of them. I absolutely love
this add on! Thank you!

Number Eleven:

Virtual Review; Status: running; Version: 2.2; Author: Rui Batista
<ruiandrebatista@...> and NVDA Addon Team 13 of 17

This add on, speeds up tasks that I often do. It is not object
navigation,
but I can get access to text and more on the screen so quickly with this
add

on! Thank you!

VLC Media Player; Status: running; Version: 1.2; Author: Javi Dominguez
<fjavids@...> 14 of 17

I love using VLC Media Player. This add on, allows me to tab and hear
many
of the controls on the screen, and I have access to the repeat and
shuffle
toggles. Thank you!

Weather Plus; Status: running; Version: 4.4 15.06.2017; Author: Adriano
Barbieri <adrianobarb@...>. 15 of 17

I really love this weather add on. I use it constantly. My wife asks me
about the weather. and I simply press NVDA+Shift+W and get the forcast.
What

I like most, is that it is copied to the clipboard, and I can paste the
entire forecast into a text document like Note Pad.

I love this add on, because I have many cities that I can find out the
weather in. Thank you so much!

Number Twelve

Windows 10 App Essentials; Status: running; Version: 20170705-dev;
Author:
Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>, Derek Riemer
<driemer.riemer@...> and others

Thank you Joseph! I have used this add on to get much more accessibility
in

universal apps, the start area, settings app, and other places. This add
on

has allowed me to use many of the win10 universal apps for a long time!
Thank you!

Number Thirteen:

Windows 10 Calculator; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@...> 17 of 17

I use the Windows 10 calculator all of the time. I do scientific
calculations with it many times a day. This add on has really helped me
a
lot. Thank You!

This is it!

The summary, is that many features of JAWS are in these add ons. NVDA is
much more powerful with these add ons, and I appreciate all of your time
and

work to make these add ons, and do all that you do for the NVDA
community.
I

now use NVDA 90 percent of the time, because of these add ons. They have
really made a difference, and I want you all to know!

David Moore

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--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org









--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Carlos
 

Hello:

It is possible to install windows by first using NVDA to start the process. And, once all is ready after a few hours you can activate narrator and complete the installation.

What I need is to totally reformat the hard drive so I can do a "true" clean install of windows!

So, it is all one query and not two separate queries.

Thank You! For your response!

On 7/8/2017 2:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
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