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Re: subject line

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes and sometimes changing them just makes things more confusing or does not work as expected. Could one of the admins here tell us if it is possible to start a new thread so to speak but keep some of the parts of another one without basically cutting and pasting all over the place.

Often subjects stray gradually.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 1:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] subject line


It sure would be great if the subject lines of messages were changed to meet the subject of the message when they stray away from the original posted message.



Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

i remembered from its copyright that i downloaded one version in three
years ago and it was not accessible for me.
i dont know about the newer versions and also paid version.
i tried free version which was less than 60 mb in that year.
hope that it became accessible until now and someone explaned about
its usage and accessibility.

On 7/9/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Please reply if it works.

I may concidder it later on if it is.

Jarte works well but if I need to switch to another office app, I don't
mind paying 80 dollars for full office.




On 9/07/2017 11:54 p.m., nasrin khaksar wrote:
i remember that one time i tried one office program which was
completely inaccessible.
i am not sure about its name whether wps office suite or other program.
but if it was wps, it was free version of it.
i dont know there website.
could you please send me to check?

On 7/9/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
ms office aint that bad I am going to shift my aunt who was in business
into using it as she has worked with it at work.

I'd dearly like her to use free office and software but she is spending
on a laptop, and will get office.

Has anyone tried wps office at all?

Its free and bar a watermark on printed files is fine.

Now its 30 a year and maybe cheaper per month I forget but you can
subscribe a pc and some mobile devices to it.

Or if on pc is all you will use it on its 80 dollars for a lifetime pc
licence.

As long as that pc is fine then you don't have an issue.

I think unless you get a key and just install it on another pc
afterward.

Thats cheaper than office but has anyone used this.

She has an ios and an android device and since she is cloud based,
linking her cloud to her computer with ms apps is not a bad thing I
guess since she has a 3 device chain.

The only people that don't are those on single devices like myself.




On 9/07/2017 8:47 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That does not sound good. I know originally Libra Office and Open
Office and the Symphony office suite were all written in Java, but
much of them now have embeded accessibility, but did wonder if Java
was installed if that might help some parts not accessible out of the
box.
I'd really like another choice than Microsoft Office as they are
pushing people toward toe online product where you have to keep
paying to to get it up todate.
Has read all been sorted in Libra Office yet, ie can nvda see that
there is more text to read after a larrge break outside of a page you
are in?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar"
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody
answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open
office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm
thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market
model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of
going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to
have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save
ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
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level on
request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

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But
the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound
truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




.





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: using outlook how do you get to find out how many messages are in a folder using NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Interesting! I’ve never used that command before! It tells me that I have 60 unread and 40 in normal view. What does that mean?

 

My usual way to do it is to press the End key alone. This brings me to the last message in the message box. To hear how many there are, I have to listen to the details of the message and its sender , etc., until I finally hear “60 column1”.

 

When I count the messages, I find that there are indeed 60 messages but only 45 are unread not 60 as reported by NVDA+End! Perhaps I should log this in GitHub?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] using outlook how do you get to find out how many messages are in a folder using NVDA

 

Use read status line.  The desktop keyboard layout command is NVDA key end.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Casey

Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 11:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] using outlook how do you get to find out how many messages are in a folder using NVDA

 

HI I am using NVDA AND OUTLOOK 2016.

What is the correct keys to find out how many messages are in A folder using NVDA when you are in your folders lists?

 

 

 


Good News!!!

Carlos
 

Hello All!

Thanks to our very good and knowledgeable friend Gene NZ! I was able to get rid of the family of windows.old directories which had taken over my hard drive!

We all on this list owe a great deal of gratitude to Gene NZ for all the knowledge he is always sharing here on the list!

Thank You! All for all of your great suggestions and advice!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


subject line

Don H
 

It sure would be great if the subject lines of messages were changed to meet the subject of the message when they stray away from the original posted message.


Video streaming services and NVDA

Don H
 

Are there any of the free or pay for Vidio streaming services that work well with NVDA?

Thanks


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Gene
 

As I said, there are utilities that may allow you to delete the files.  Some people boot into Linux to delete files in such cases.  That may be an option as well but you may not want to fool around with it yourself. 
 
I don't know if there are other options. 
Gene

From: Carlos
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

    When I try to delete them with file explorer.  Or, for that matter, any other file management software.  When trying to use the wipe/shred/destroy function I get a file not accessible/file does not exist/file not available error messages!

    So, I guess I'm stuck with having all those windows.old files on my machine.

    Today I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 and the windows.old family has now grown to seven directories!

    I have been using PCs since the days of DOS 4.0 to the present and this one is very hard to understand why it's happening?

    Thank You! For all your help!


On 7/8/2017 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.  You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you tried deleting them using Windows Explorer?  If that doesn't work, there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they aren't. 
 
Others may have more information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

     The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

     Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. 
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

     I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

     Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

     Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>
> Hello:
>
>       I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!
>
>       It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!
>
>       I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.
>
>       Thank You! For your response!
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Carlos
>> Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>>        How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?
>>
>>        I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.
>>
>>        For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!
>>
>>        Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...




-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Jeff’s NVDA add on repository

Don H
 

So I am asking the NVDA experts here, Is this Jeff’s NVDA add on repository a safe place to download add ons?

Thanks


Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

Please reply if it works.

I may concidder it later on if it is.

Jarte works well but if I need to switch to another office app, I don't mind paying 80 dollars for full office.

On 9/07/2017 11:54 p.m., nasrin khaksar wrote:
i remember that one time i tried one office program which was
completely inaccessible.
i am not sure about its name whether wps office suite or other program.
but if it was wps, it was free version of it.
i dont know there website.
could you please send me to check?

On 7/9/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
ms office aint that bad I am going to shift my aunt who was in business
into using it as she has worked with it at work.

I'd dearly like her to use free office and software but she is spending
on a laptop, and will get office.

Has anyone tried wps office at all?

Its free and bar a watermark on printed files is fine.

Now its 30 a year and maybe cheaper per month I forget but you can
subscribe a pc and some mobile devices to it.

Or if on pc is all you will use it on its 80 dollars for a lifetime pc
licence.

As long as that pc is fine then you don't have an issue.

I think unless you get a key and just install it on another pc afterward.

Thats cheaper than office but has anyone used this.

She has an ios and an android device and since she is cloud based,
linking her cloud to her computer with ms apps is not a bad thing I
guess since she has a 3 device chain.

The only people that don't are those on single devices like myself.




On 9/07/2017 8:47 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That does not sound good. I know originally Libra Office and Open
Office and the Symphony office suite were all written in Java, but
much of them now have embeded accessibility, but did wonder if Java
was installed if that might help some parts not accessible out of the
box.
I'd really like another choice than Microsoft Office as they are
pushing people toward toe online product where you have to keep
paying to to get it up todate.
Has read all been sorted in Libra Office yet, ie can nvda see that
there is more text to read after a larrge break outside of a page you
are in?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar"
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody
answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open
office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm
thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market
model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of
going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot
level on
request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

* * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But
the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound
truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




.



Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

www.wps.com

I havn't tried this it does a bit more than standard office, document and pdf conversion and a few things.

It seems that from forums a lot of people that switched from ms office line didn't like the direction of libre or open office families and switched to this.

In one case online the software has been reportedly installed all over the place and is not good, however, it was only 1.

I do know from security sites I read thats its been round since 1997 and that it is chinese.

So it is almost as old as modern office office 95 and earlier excluded.

On 9/07/2017 11:54 p.m., nasrin khaksar wrote:
i remember that one time i tried one office program which was
completely inaccessible.
i am not sure about its name whether wps office suite or other program.
but if it was wps, it was free version of it.
i dont know there website.
could you please send me to check?

On 7/9/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
ms office aint that bad I am going to shift my aunt who was in business
into using it as she has worked with it at work.

I'd dearly like her to use free office and software but she is spending
on a laptop, and will get office.

Has anyone tried wps office at all?

Its free and bar a watermark on printed files is fine.

Now its 30 a year and maybe cheaper per month I forget but you can
subscribe a pc and some mobile devices to it.

Or if on pc is all you will use it on its 80 dollars for a lifetime pc
licence.

As long as that pc is fine then you don't have an issue.

I think unless you get a key and just install it on another pc afterward.

Thats cheaper than office but has anyone used this.

She has an ios and an android device and since she is cloud based,
linking her cloud to her computer with ms apps is not a bad thing I
guess since she has a 3 device chain.

The only people that don't are those on single devices like myself.




On 9/07/2017 8:47 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That does not sound good. I know originally Libra Office and Open
Office and the Symphony office suite were all written in Java, but
much of them now have embeded accessibility, but did wonder if Java
was installed if that might help some parts not accessible out of the
box.
I'd really like another choice than Microsoft Office as they are
pushing people toward toe online product where you have to keep
paying to to get it up todate.
Has read all been sorted in Libra Office yet, ie can nvda see that
there is more text to read after a larrge break outside of a page you
are in?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar"
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody
answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open
office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm
thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market
model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of
going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot
level on
request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

* * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But
the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound
truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




.



Re: Amazon Echo and the app with nvda

Joshua Hendrickson
 

Why not just wear a pair of headphones when configuring the Alexa app
on your computer. That way the Alexa Echo wouldn't hear her name
being spoken by NVDA.

On 7/9/17, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Brian,
for that reason I changed the code-word to "Computer" from within the Alexa
app.

Regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sonntag, 9. Juli 2017 11:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Amazon Echo and the app with nvda

Hi there I got an Amazon Echo the other day to make things easier for
finding radio stations and other stuff, but I did have issues with the App
as the synth every time it read the A word triggered the echo and the
change in state was actively updating the app contents as I was trying to
use it!
I have now decided to do the following
I'm going to replace the name that shall not be spoken with the string,
The A word in the dictionary so hopefully I can finally get some skills
sorted without complete chaos.

I'd advise this for anyone with a device like this.
Brian

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Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

i remember that one time i tried one office program which was
completely inaccessible.
i am not sure about its name whether wps office suite or other program.
but if it was wps, it was free version of it.
i dont know there website.
could you please send me to check?

On 7/9/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
ms office aint that bad I am going to shift my aunt who was in business
into using it as she has worked with it at work.

I'd dearly like her to use free office and software but she is spending
on a laptop, and will get office.

Has anyone tried wps office at all?

Its free and bar a watermark on printed files is fine.

Now its 30 a year and maybe cheaper per month I forget but you can
subscribe a pc and some mobile devices to it.

Or if on pc is all you will use it on its 80 dollars for a lifetime pc
licence.

As long as that pc is fine then you don't have an issue.

I think unless you get a key and just install it on another pc afterward.

Thats cheaper than office but has anyone used this.

She has an ios and an android device and since she is cloud based,
linking her cloud to her computer with ms apps is not a bad thing I
guess since she has a 3 device chain.

The only people that don't are those on single devices like myself.




On 9/07/2017 8:47 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That does not sound good. I know originally Libra Office and Open
Office and the Symphony office suite were all written in Java, but
much of them now have embeded accessibility, but did wonder if Java
was installed if that might help some parts not accessible out of the
box.
I'd really like another choice than Microsoft Office as they are
pushing people toward toe online product where you have to keep
paying to to get it up todate.
Has read all been sorted in Libra Office yet, ie can nvda see that
there is more text to read after a larrge break outside of a page you
are in?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar"
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

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I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody
answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open
office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm
thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market
model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of
going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
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.



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al-islam.org


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

 

It still would be good in situations where stuff didn't kill.

Usually with windows.old folders on upgrades thats 10 days for a major update within win10 and a month for an os to os upgrade.

Even with disk cleanup these folders don'

't die but leave them be and they die by themselves.

As for files that can not bee accessed a chkdsk will fix that.

If you still have the issue, I suggest you backup your data as you may be having a hard drive failier or other failier.

When I got these it started as a few corrupted sectors to the drives not working, in fact it left my drive a lot of it corrupted and I had to restore from another fortunately that drive was able to be restored but it was also going bad.

I lost 3 drives in this way and almost lost all my files.

On 9/07/2017 9:10 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
There used to be a program that could delete anything you liked. The way it worked was it presented you with locked or files protected in various ways. You selected them and then it rebooted the computer via some low level, ie non Microsoft system and deleted what you had told it by accessing a text file you had saved vai the program. Unfortunately and this is the really annoying part I cannot remember what it was called but it did give dire warnings about using it to remove files that might be used by windows and then the machine would not reboot.
It used to work well in XP and the dire Vista, but not bothered with it since as now drives are so huge that a little bit of wasted space is not really an issue any more.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!


Hello:

When I try to delete them with file explorer. Or, for that matter,
any other file management software. When trying to use the
wipe/shred/destroy function I get a file not accessible/file does not
exist/file not available error messages!

So, I guess I'm stuck with having all those windows.old files on my
machine.

Today I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 and the windows.old family
has now grown to seven directories!

I have been using PCs since the days of DOS 4.0 to the present and
this one is very hard to understand why it's happening?

Thank You! For all your help!


On 7/8/2017 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.
You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you
tried deleting them using Windows Explorer? If that doesn't work,
there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept
from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they
aren't.
Others may have more information.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Carlos <mailto:gmjc341961@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting.
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the
context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter
what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be >
removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access
control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old
system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without
sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly
formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of
windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter
if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When
you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see
that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


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<mailto:gmjc341961@gmail.com>






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<mailto:gmjc341961@gmail.com>






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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

 

Yes there is a recovery partition which is needed for restoring laptops often use this.

There are ways of backing it up on dvds and or flash media.

I guess you could kill it from disk manager and just restore but once you restore you get the stuff back.

On 9/07/2017 8:50 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I do know that if you install an OEM disc of windows it does store some stuff in an unreachable part of the disc, which may or may not have a visible folder but cannot be deleted, often called some very long and weird name.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!


Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
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.


Re: Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA

 

ms office aint that bad I am going to shift my aunt who was in business into using it as she has worked with it at work.

I'd dearly like her to use free office and software but she is spending on a laptop, and will get office.

Has anyone tried wps office at all?

Its free and bar a watermark on printed files is fine.

Now its 30 a year and maybe cheaper per month I forget but you can subscribe a pc and some mobile devices to it.

Or if on pc is all you will use it on its 80 dollars for a lifetime pc licence.

As long as that pc is fine then you don't have an issue.

I think unless you get a key and just install it on another pc afterward.

Thats cheaper than office but has anyone used this.

She has an ios and an android device and since she is cloud based, linking her cloud to her computer with ms apps is not a bad thing I guess since she has a 3 device chain.

The only people that don't are those on single devices like myself.

On 9/07/2017 8:47 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That does not sound good. I know originally Libra Office and Open Office and the Symphony office suite were all written in Java, but much of them now have embeded accessibility, but did wonder if Java was installed if that might help some parts not accessible out of the box.
I'd really like another choice than Microsoft Office as they are pushing people toward toe online product where you have to keep paying to to get it up todate.
Has read all been sorted in Libra Office yet, ie can nvda see that there is more text to read after a larrge break outside of a page you are in?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


i heard that footnotes are completely inaccessible.
but i sent one version of libreoffice for someone to test.
he uses jaws and told me that jaws and libreoffice are not compatible
with each other and installing libreoffice for me that i use jaws,
caused hang for my entire system!

On 7/8/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think maybe what needs to happen here though is that somebody answers the

original question as to whether the footnotes in the Libra and Open office
can be made accessible or not. Anyone know if Jaws does it? I'm thinking
that since Microsoft seem to be drifting toward the rental market model for

Office I'd like to make a statement that I do not like this way of going
forward, so on the next upgrade I'd ditch Word altogether.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading footnotes in LibreOffice with NVDA


hello again.
previous versions of microsoft office need odt 1.0-1.1
if you need to support recent versions of odt format, you need to have
microsoft office 2013.

On 7/8/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Sylvie,

If I may ask, what version of MS Office are you using? Since at
least Office 2010 MS-Word is able to open and save in ODT format. If
you've
got a recent version of Office you should be able to edit and save ODT
files
in their native ODT format without using Libre Office at all.
--
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request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

* * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But
the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*

--
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




.


Re: Way Off Topic!!!

 

Well windows 10 will usually kill those folders after a bit.

Usually they should go away, however, you can reset easily.

If you do reformat I think windows 10 installer can talk now if you have a usb headset I think or if your soundcard is fine you can probably try plugging things in.

I am not sure if that spreads to pe but even still.

If you are happy with linux and get a simple desktop you could log into that on a live cd mount your hard drive and kill the folders, as long as they are not critical windows will start fine.

On 9/07/2017 8:42 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think it can be done in two ways.first using a script or slipstream method where all the required questions are answered as a text input file, and secondly, using narrator but at some point, obviously you are using non windows software right at the start. I've never done it myself, but know of a couple of people who have managed it with windows 10.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!


I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Carlos
 

Hello!

    As usual, you always find a way to do things that no one else has thought about!  You should consider becoming a computer Guru!

    I will try out your suggestion later on today once I copy/paste your instructions onto a text file.

    I have a great deal of fondness for all the great info you share with us on your website!

    Thank You So Very Much for All Your Help!!!



On 7/9/2017 3:54 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


I just tried it on my windows 10 machine and it removed the old windows.old directory.


Use the windows key + letter #

this will bring up where your drives are for example C: drive d: drive and so on.

locate the C: drive then use the applications key on your computer.

go to properties then press the enter key.

Tab to the disk clean up button then press the enter key. it will come up with a selection of stuff to remove. I went through and checked all of the boxes and you need to look for one that say just after the list you have check called Clean up system files button, then press either the space bar or enter key.

another list will come up i went through and checked all of the boxs one of them was for the windows.old directory  I can not remember what it said like windows S or some thing, but any how all of the boxs were check.

  .

I then tabbed to the ok button then pressed the enter key. it asked me if i really wanted to delete every thing that was checked and the amount of space etc.

i said yes it did it trick and after it finished i checked to see if it was gone.


there is no window.old directory now.

the option to get rid of the old directory will only come up if it is there on your c drive. I just can not remember what it called the old directory.


I can have a look on my other computer where i have not removed it yet i think it is still there and then either record the steps on how to do it but this was pretty much the process i did.


hope it helps.


gene nz

On 7/9/2017 8:09 PM, Carlos wrote:

Hello:

    When I try to delete them with file explorer.  Or, for that matter, any other file management software.  When trying to use the wipe/shred/destroy function I get a file not accessible/file does not exist/file not available error messages!

    So, I guess I'm stuck with having all those windows.old files on my machine.

    Today I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 and the windows.old family has now grown to seven directories!

    I have been using PCs since the days of DOS 4.0 to the present and this one is very hard to understand why it's happening?

    Thank You! For all your help!


On 7/8/2017 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.  You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you tried deleting them using Windows Explorer?  If that doesn't work, there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they aren't. 
 
Others may have more information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

     The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

     Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. 
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

     I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

     Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

     Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>
> Hello:
>
>       I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!
>
>       It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!
>
>       I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.
>
>       Thank You! For your response!
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Carlos
>> Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>>        How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?
>>
>>        I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.
>>
>>        For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!
>>
>>        Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Way Off Topic!!!

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I just tried it on my windows 10 machine and it removed the old windows.old directory.


Use the windows key + letter #

this will bring up where your drives are for example C: drive d: drive and so on.

locate the C: drive then use the applications key on your computer.

go to properties then press the enter key.

Tab to the disk clean up button then press the enter key. it will come up with a selection of stuff to remove. I went through and checked all of the boxes and you need to look for one that say just after the list you have check called Clean up system files button, then press either the space bar or enter key.

another list will come up i went through and checked all of the boxs one of them was for the windows.old directory  I can not remember what it said like windows S or some thing, but any how all of the boxs were check.

  .

I then tabbed to the ok button then pressed the enter key. it asked me if i really wanted to delete every thing that was checked and the amount of space etc.

i said yes it did it trick and after it finished i checked to see if it was gone.


there is no window.old directory now.

the option to get rid of the old directory will only come up if it is there on your c drive. I just can not remember what it called the old directory.


I can have a look on my other computer where i have not removed it yet i think it is still there and then either record the steps on how to do it but this was pretty much the process i did.


hope it helps.


gene nz

On 7/9/2017 8:09 PM, Carlos wrote:

Hello:

    When I try to delete them with file explorer.  Or, for that matter, any other file management software.  When trying to use the wipe/shred/destroy function I get a file not accessible/file does not exist/file not available error messages!

    So, I guess I'm stuck with having all those windows.old files on my machine.

    Today I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 and the windows.old family has now grown to seven directories!

    I have been using PCs since the days of DOS 4.0 to the present and this one is very hard to understand why it's happening?

    Thank You! For all your help!


On 7/8/2017 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.  You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you tried deleting them using Windows Explorer?  If that doesn't work, there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they aren't. 
 
Others may have more information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

     The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

     Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. 
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

     I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

     Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

     Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>
> Hello:
>
>       I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!
>
>       It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!
>
>       I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.
>
>       Thank You! For your response!
>
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> On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.
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>> Cheers
>> Chris
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>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Carlos
>> Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
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>> Hello All:
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>>        How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?
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>>        I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.
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>>        For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!
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>>        Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Amazon Echo and the app with nvda

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Brian,
for that reason I changed the code-word to "Computer" from within the Alexa
app.

Regards,
Ralf

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Sonntag, 9. Juli 2017 11:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Amazon Echo and the app with nvda

Hi there I got an Amazon Echo the other day to make things easier for
finding radio stations and other stuff, but I did have issues with the App
as the synth every time it read the A word triggered the echo and the
change in state was actively updating the app contents as I was trying to
use it!
I have now decided to do the following
I'm going to replace the name that shall not be spoken with the string,
The A word in the dictionary so hopefully I can finally get some skills
sorted without complete chaos.

I'd advise this for anyone with a device like this.
Brian

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Re: My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

 

i dont know about addon.
but without it, for me vlc is not accessible and cant use it or find
loop or random.
gene, thanks for there shortcuts which you presented.
but when i press r or l, nvda says r or l nothing more!
maybe changing some setting makes it accessible, but i dont know which
setting i should change.
brian, i understand the developer team, but i only ment some features
that all people need like announcing copy and peist, version of
product etc.

On 7/9/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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The only caveat I'd say is that it is not officially tested. By that I mean,

the add ons that are there if not also on the official site you take at face

value. I'm sure every attempt is made to screen out dodgy code, but just be

careful in case something has been missed. This goes for any other web sites

where add ons are stored away from the one you have a link to in th e ad ons

dialogue. Yes sometimes an older version of an add on can be needed for xp
for example.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!


Hi guys!
I found the URL that has the say name of product and version NVDA add on.
This site is great, because there are a few older add ons on here that still

work great with win10 and latest NVDA. Here is the URL:
http://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.htm
It is called Jeff’s NVDA add on repository or something close to that. The
page starts out something like this:
Welcome to my NVDA Add-on Repository.
This page aims to bring together all of the optional components available
for the free, open source screen reader known as NVDA.
Before you can install any of the below add-ons, you must first install
NVDA.
There are many add ons on there! It is kept up to date, because it says on
the site that it was updated in April of this year. Joseph Lee’s Windows 10

app assentials is on there, so it is an up to date web site.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 11:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

how can i find repeate and shuffle mode in vlc playback without using
addon?
i need these features, but could not find them in the playback menu.

On 7/9/17, Melissa Jean <Melissa.J.Hammitt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, thanks so much for putting this list together. I was able to
grab a few addons I didn't know about.
There was one addon that I wasn't able to find. do you have a link to
the addon Say Product Name and Version ? For some reason I wasn't able
to find it myself.
My allergies are making my brain stupid....

thanks,
Melissa
On 7/7/17, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Pascal and all!
NVDA add on Number 7 is:
Say Product Name and Version; Status: running; Version: 1.0.2012060901;
Author: Patrick ZAJDA <patrick@zajda.fr> 8 of 17
For some reason, the name of that add on did not get pasted under Number
Seven.
Pascal, you are so welcome. I personally use all of these add ons all of
the
time with NVDA. I encourage you to find these add ons and try them all
out.
They greatly enhance the NVDA experience, and they allow you to do so
much
more. Let me know if you can find them, and how they work for you!
I wanted to give these awesome NVDA add on developers some input
concerning
why I like using these add ons so much. I put the same email on the NVDA
add
ons group.
Have a great one, Pascal!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

Hi David,
Thank you for providing the list of addons. I would have never taken
the
time to look for them. Computer is not my priority as I only use it for
what I need.
Blessings
Pascal


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David
Moore
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] My Favorite NVDA add ons and Why!

Hi all,
I use NVDA 30 percent more, because of these add ons.
Here are my favorite add ons, and I explain why!
Here is the list!
NVDA add ons I love the most and why.
I want to share with all of you, which add ons really impress me the
most,
and the ones I am getting the most use out of by using them.
Number One:
Clip Contents Designer; Status: running; Version: 3.5; Author: Noelia
Ruiz
Martínez <nrm1977@gmail.com>
I very often want to copy some material, and append more material to the
clipboard. I do this a lot to edit and create tutorials.
I love this add on, and it helps me a lot. Thank you!
Number two:
Clipspeak; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Damien Sykes-Lindley
<damien@dcpendleton.plus.com> 2 of 17
It gives me such peace of mind to hear what I have on the clip board,
before
I paste it somewhere. Thank you!
Number three:
Enhanced Aria; Status: running; Version: 1.3-dev; Author: Jose Manuel
Delicado <jmdaweb@hotmail.com>
I can now use two great TV web sites to stream movies and TV shows,
because
this add on lets me access the ARIA That I need to enjoy these streaming
web
sites. Thank you!
Number four:
Golden Cursor moves the mouse with the keyboard; Status: running;
Version:
1.0-dev; Author: Salah Atair <atair1978@gmail.com>, Wafeeq Taher 5 of
17
I want all to know how much I use this add on. Here is an example.
My wife will move the mouse pointer to a place that I cannot find. I can
then press a command to hear what pixel position the mouse pointer is
on.
I
can save that pixel position, and my wife never has to put the mouse
pointer
there again. I just press a command, and it brings up all saved mouse
pointer positions that I have saved. I label my saved pixel positions,
like
fast forward in Groove, for example. I can open the list of saved pixel
positions, and arrow to that Groove button, and press enter, and the
actual
mouse pointer goes right there.
Sometimes, you cannot get the mouse pointer to route to where the review
cursor is located, and with one time of sighted assistance, you can save
the
pixel position where the sighted person put the mouse pointer, and you
can
go back there yourself from then on. Thank you very much, and I pray you
keep developing and supporting this add on!
Number five:
Lambda math editor addon; Status: running; Version: 1.1.8-dev; Author:
Alberto Zanella <lapostadialberto@gmail.com> 6 of 17
This add on, has allowed me to tutor highr math concepts on my on line
math
tutoring business to sighted people.
I am getting access to more hier math topics, and I can use this add on
to
read the other person's work when they send it back to me. Thank you!
Number six:
Place markers; Status: running; Version: 8.1-dev; Author: Noelia
<nrm1977@gmail.com>, Chris <llajta2012@gmail.com> 7 of 17
This add on has saved me so much time every day. Many times a day, I put
a
place marker somewhere that I will return to later. This is the place
marker
feature in JAWS. Thank you! This saves me a lot of time.
Number Seven
I absolutely love this add on. Many times, I am in a program when I want
to
here the version of the application. I really missed doing thiswith
JAWS.
Now, I can use this feature with NVDA. Thank you!
Number Eight:
Speak Passwords; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Tyler Spivey
<tspivey@pcdesk.net> 10 of 17
This is priceless. I love being to hear the characters I type in instead
of
hearing * for every character. Thank you!
Number Nine:
Speech history review and copying; Status: running; Version: 2017.05.13;
Author: [u'Tyler Spivey', u'James Scholes'] 11 of 17
I love this add on. I am using it as I type this article. I down arrow
through my add ons, and I just press F12 to paste what NVDA said to the
clip
board. Again, this is the speach history in JAWS. These add ons are
allowing
us to use NVDA and get these JAWS features. Thank you!
Number Ten:
Insert Symbols; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Erion
<rob.mail@freemail.hu> 12 of 17
I can insert hundreds of symbols in a document, Facebook post, or email,
that I never had to choose from with JAWS. There are so many symbols
that
you can choose from, I have not heard of many of them. I absolutely love
this add on! Thank you!
Number Eleven:
Virtual Review; Status: running; Version: 2.2; Author: Rui Batista
<ruiandrebatista@gmail.com> and NVDA Addon Team 13 of 17
This add on, speeds up tasks that I often do. It is not object
navigation,
but I can get access to text and more on the screen so quickly with this
add
on! Thank you!
VLC Media Player; Status: running; Version: 1.2; Author: Javi Dominguez
<fjavids@gmail.com> 14 of 17
I love using VLC Media Player. This add on, allows me to tab and hear
many
of the controls on the screen, and I have access to the repeat and
shuffle
toggles. Thank you!
Weather Plus; Status: running; Version: 4.4 15.06.2017; Author: Adriano
Barbieri <adrianobarb@yahoo.it>. 15 of 17
I really love this weather add on. I use it constantly. My wife asks me
about the weather. and I simply press NVDA+Shift+W and get the forcast.
What
I like most, is that it is copied to the clipboard, and I can paste the
entire forecast into a text document like Note Pad.
I love this add on, because I have many cities that I can find out the
weather in. Thank you so much!
Number Twelve
Windows 10 App Essentials; Status: running; Version: 20170705-dev;
Author:
Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>, Derek Riemer
<driemer.riemer@gmail.com> and others
Thank you Joseph! I have used this add on to get much more accessibility
in
universal apps, the start area, settings app, and other places. This add
on
has allowed me to use many of the win10 universal apps for a long time!
Thank you!
Number Thirteen:
Windows 10 Calculator; Status: running; Version: 1.0; Author: Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> 17 of 17
I use the Windows 10 calculator all of the time. I do scientific
calculations with it many times a day. This add on has really helped me
a
lot. Thank You!
This is it!
The summary, is that many features of JAWS are in these add ons. NVDA is
much more powerful with these add ons, and I appreciate all of your time
and
work to make these add ons, and do all that you do for the NVDA
community.
I
now use NVDA 90 percent of the time, because of these add ons. They have
really made a difference, and I want you all to know!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10






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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org