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Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

My Thunderbird has always done this. You need to press F 8 to turn off the preview pane. This always gets in the way. Then when you close the message, you'll just be in the list of messages in the inbox.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 11:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Is there a way to get thunderbird to go back to the inbox after replying to a message instead of going back to the message document?



On 4/8/2016 7:50 AM, Pete wrote:

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.
On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger












Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Is there a way to get thunderbird to go back to the inbox after replying to a message instead of going back to the message document?

On 4/8/2016 7:50 AM, Pete wrote:

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.
On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger









Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm not having problems with thunderbird either. It's working great for me.

On 4/8/2016 8:12 AM, n8mnx@att.net wrote:
I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger









Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Stephen
 

But I can't find the link to buy the book.

At 12:08 AM 4/9/2016, you wrote:

It's a link to a preview of the book, it's only an image and being a preview I would say yes you have to buy the book.
Pete
On 4/7/2016 11:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or
can I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH
Thanks.




Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

n8mnx@att.net
 

I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger







Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Pete <emac00@...>
 

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger







Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger





Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Pete <emac00@...>
 

It's a link to a preview of the book, it's only an image and being a preview I would say yes you have to buy the book.
Pete

On 4/7/2016 11:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or can I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH
Thanks.




Re: nvda on vista

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Thanks!

On 4/7/2016 11:34 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
KB2763674.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete [mailto:emac00@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on vista


Hi Joseph
Do you know what the specific update is called?
Thanks!
Pete

On 4/7/2016 2:25 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Probably not (don't turn off User Account Control, although I must stress that users should also be careful when it comes to running programs, visiting sites and so on). The user interface for UAC on Vista is slightly different than that of later versions.
Vista will be supported until next April, and you need to have Service Pack 2 and a specific update in order to install NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss [mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:22 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda on vista

Hi.
Ok uac needs to be turned off if using vista because it will block speech entirely.
I know that much.











firefox and google

Chad Brown <CBrown@...>
 

Hello,

When trying to open up a pdf sent to me on google docs it works fine on one machine. On the other after doing the insert space it will only say showing viewer when I arrow down. What setting do I have wrong on that machine.

Thanks.

 

 

Chad Brown

Assistive Technology Consultant

 


Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Carlos
 

Hello:
Why don't you try to find this book on one of the accessible books website such as Book Share or any other web site that sells books for those of us who have disabilities issues and need publications in accessible formats?
Hope you can find your book in an accessible form!

On 4/8/2016 6:18 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hey guys,

What format is the book you're trying to buy/read?

because most Google books are in pdf images only, and can't be read by a screen reader without being run through an ocr programme first.

I don't now whether that's the case, but this is what happened to me, and I had to ask for refund.

hth, ciao,
Ollie




Il 08/04/2016 06:15, Stephen ha scritto:
Hi Sean.
Are you able to tell me how to find the link to buy the book? After I log in to my google account, which link do I click on? I find the web site very confusing.
Thanks.
At 02:01 PM 4/8/2016, you wrote:
Well you need to buy the book then you should download adobe digital addition and download the adx file.
after that you run this file in digital additions, go to the documents folder and find the resulting epub file.
Then use codex from jamesscholes.net to convert it to something readable and or remove the drm.
You will also need an updated calibre engin to handle the conversion.
Over that thats all you need.



On 8/04/2016 3:57 p.m., Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or can
I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH

Thanks.






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Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hey again guys,

No... If you use Codex, you don't need to have Calibre installed. Codex is basically a re-packaged Calibre.
Ciao,
Ollie

Il 08/04/2016 06:01, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well you need to buy the book then you should download adobe digital addition and download the adx file.
after that you run this file in digital additions, go to the documents folder and find the resulting epub file.
Then use codex from jamesscholes.net to convert it to something readable and or remove the drm.
You will also need an updated calibre engin to handle the conversion.
Over that thats all you need.



On 8/04/2016 3:57 p.m., Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or can
I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH

Thanks.






Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hey guys,

What format is the book you're trying to buy/read?

because most Google books are in pdf images only, and can't be read by a screen reader without being run through an ocr programme first.

I don't now whether that's the case, but this is what happened to me, and I had to ask for refund.

hth, ciao,
Ollie

Il 08/04/2016 06:15, Stephen ha scritto:
Hi Sean.
Are you able to tell me how to find the link to buy the book? After I log in to my google account, which link do I click on? I find the web site very confusing.
Thanks.
At 02:01 PM 4/8/2016, you wrote:
Well you need to buy the book then you should download adobe digital addition and download the adx file.
after that you run this file in digital additions, go to the documents folder and find the resulting epub file.
Then use codex from jamesscholes.net to convert it to something readable and or remove the drm.
You will also need an updated calibre engin to handle the conversion.
Over that thats all you need.



On 8/04/2016 3:57 p.m., Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or can
I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH

Thanks.





Re: MS Office 365

Carlos
 

Hello:
Thank for your helpful response!
It's not hard at all to be helpful to other NVDA users, after all that's what we are all here for. to lend a kind helping hand!
Thank you!

On 4/8/2016 5:06 AM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
Hello,
Office 365 is accessible with NVDA since all it is basically is regular Microsoft Office applications (well, they run just like regular applications, but are installed through Office 365 online.) Even the installation process is accessible. A lot of places are using this now. It shouldn’t give you any problems. :)
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:30 AM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All:
I asked the question to a fellow list member in private about how accessible MS Office 365 was/is with NVDA?
After having received a one line not very helpful answer to my question. I am now going to ask all members of the NVDA mailing list the same question of how accessible is Office 365 with NVDA?
I have decided to subscribe to Office 365 since at times the various Open Office variants seem not to always work correctly and crash far too many times for my liking!
I hope that other list members will be more generous with their comments/suggestions!
This list has always been known for having kind and very helpful members! One bad apple can at times spoil it for everyone else!
Thank You! In advance for all your good/kind suggestions!!!

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com



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Re: Problem with reading pdf

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

It depends on the document you are reading. some pdf files may be too long and NVDA fails to read them or crashes. When I have to deal with pdf documents or books, I mostly convert them to microsoft word format by using AABBYY fine reader and it solves my issues hopefully. However, there are some pdf image files which may have a low quality resolution, and things get worse and worse.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Clare Page <clare.page@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

Hi!
I've been sent plenty of .pdf files where NVDA says the file is either blank or needs OCR. This isn't a fault of the .pdf reader, such a message is usually caused by the fact that the contents of the .pdf are an image rather than text. Interesting that such a file showed up as text readable by Voiceover on an iPad: I can't explain that!
However, as regards a solution to the problem of such blank-looking .pdf files on Windows, I use Omnipage, the OCR program I have here, to make the text in such files accessible, even though this usually means having two copies of the file, because the text version is in another format, usually Word in my case.
I'm not familiar with other OCR programs on Windows, but I would guess that at least some of them have a similar function, where image files in .pdf containing text can be converted to formats like .rtf or .doc which are more accessible.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William [mailto:cwwong.pro@gmail.com]
Sent: vendredi 8 avril 2016 09:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with reading pdf

I have try both pdf reader dc and Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro both failed


Aravind R 於 8/4/2016 15:19 寫道:
I TOO HAD SAME PROBLEM WITH ADOBE READER DC SO I DOWNGRADED IT.
SO FRIENDS GUIDE US HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM

On 4/8/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi.
if you are shure that your pdf books is not Ocr and its usual
document which is changed to document, you can also try balabolka.
its free and can read many document formats.
you can download it from its original website.

www. cross-plus-a.com

thanks for asking and god bless you.

On 4/8/16, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I got a pdf file, when I open with Adobe pdf reader DC on my windows
7, it said it is blank or require OCR.
However, when I send the pdf to my Ipad via dropbox and ope the pdf
with dropbox, the screen reader there can read all those text
content, as if it is totally accessible.
I am not sure how to fix this issue. Cause I need to extract some of
the information from the pdf.....
Do I open it with alternative pdf reader? any recommendations? or
any other advice?
thanks
William
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Re: Problem with reading pdf

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

I too had problems with reading PDF documents with NVDA and adobe reader. NVDA used to crash and I installed Q read, which is a paid application, but it is a good program to handle pdf document. However, I rely on jaws as my primary screen Reader.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
I got a pdf file, when I open with Adobe pdf reader DC on my windows 7, it said it is blank or require OCR.
However, when I send the pdf to my Ipad via dropbox and ope the pdf with dropbox, the screen reader there can read all those text content, as if it is totally accessible.
I am not sure how to fix this issue. Cause I need to extract some of the information from the pdf.....
Do I open it with alternative pdf reader? any recommendations? or any other advice?
thanks
William
n





Re: MS Office 365

Jeffrey Shockley
 

Hello,
Office 365 is accessible with NVDA since all it is basically is regular Microsoft Office applications (well, they run just like regular applications, but are installed through Office 365 online.) Even the installation process is accessible. A lot of places are using this now. It shouldn’t give you any problems. :)
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey

On Apr 8, 2016, at 7:30 AM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All:
I asked the question to a fellow list member in private about how accessible MS Office 365 was/is with NVDA?
After having received a one line not very helpful answer to my question. I am now going to ask all members of the NVDA mailing list the same question of how accessible is Office 365 with NVDA?
I have decided to subscribe to Office 365 since at times the various Open Office variants seem not to always work correctly and crash far too many times for my liking!
I hope that other list members will be more generous with their comments/suggestions!
This list has always been known for having kind and very helpful members! One bad apple can at times spoil it for everyone else!
Thank You! In advance for all your good/kind suggestions!!!

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com




truVoice multilingual

Josh K <joshknnd1982@...>
 

yes it works fine on windows10 it is sapi4.

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truVoice

Josh K <joshknnd1982@...>
 

yes truVoice works great in windows 10!

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MS Office 365

Carlos
 

Hello All:
I asked the question to a fellow list member in private about how accessible MS Office 365 was/is with NVDA?
After having received a one line not very helpful answer to my question. I am now going to ask all members of the NVDA mailing list the same question of how accessible is Office 365 with NVDA?
I have decided to subscribe to Office 365 since at times the various Open Office variants seem not to always work correctly and crash far too many times for my liking!
I hope that other list members will be more generous with their comments/suggestions!
This list has always been known for having kind and very helpful members! One bad apple can at times spoil it for everyone else!
Thank You! In advance for all your good/kind suggestions!!!

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com