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Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Hi all,

 

I have bought a new Lenovo laptop model Ideapad 510s 80UV003MIH which came with Windows 10 Home pre loaded. I have upgraded the same to creators update and I am running NVDA 2017.2.

 

I am facing a major speech delay with NVDA. I have updated all drivers and have removed all non essential utilities from the machine. When I install NVDA the installation hangs till I Alt+Tab to another window and then it completes. The sound of the progress bar during installation is also weird.

 

The average speech delay is 1.5 seconds per keystroke and it adds up if I am typing a long sentence. I have tried using eSpeak and SAPPI and various voices but the problem persists.

 

I think it is a driver clash but I cannot figure it out. I will be very grateful to anyone who can help me with this.

 

Cheers

Mohit


sophos help

 

Hi.

Well Decided to give sophos home a try.

My initial review is as follows.

1. interface bar the fact there are no progress bars the program seems to work.

2. all the interface is mostly on the web and acceptions seem easy ish to add.

The notifier is just that a simple cut down interface but thats where it stops.

The following issues had me immediately running system restore and going back to msse.

1. On installing sophos found at least 8 programs that were malware.

Sadly they were scroling battles universe, gma dice, classic pipe by blindsoftware and ed sharp nir cmd as well as the same program in filedir and a few other things.

Fine, I just have to add them.

Wrong, almost immediately the generic malware and unwanted files were killed.

And then windows wanted to restart to turn on user account control.

Ok, I can turn it off again, no problem.

Lets see what to do about this issue with sophos.

As far as I can tell and from research on the net once the file is deleted it seems gone.

There isn't anyway in history of getting the files restored from it and no way to use history to add acceptions there is no way to make the thing not process alerts immediately allowing me to add the acceptions.

There is no way to recover the files afterwards and from sophos forums they suggest restoring from a backup of the file.

There have been horror stories also where entire file folders and other things of photos and sd cards of important data were killed.

So am I a idiot, am I doing something wrong.

Or am I just plain dumb.

But from what I read I come to the conclusions.

Sophos is good in killing things as long as you don'

't need them back.

2. Sophos may allow you to add acceptions but who knows.

3. sophos seems to want to know what is best.

So did norton thats why I have msse.

This is not a good start for a supposedly glowing antivirus program.

I need control, msse still has an easier interface to control.

I really don't care to go to a website to control everything I'd really like to control the thing from a client interface.

Lets face it I am a desktop guy.


Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Arn'or,

I would do a total uninstall and then upgrade to the latest version of Thunderbird at mozilla.com/thunderbird.  I have no such issues using the latest NVDA 2017.2. 

On 7/13/2017 10:52 AM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps. My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Gene
 

I don't know if you can turn off features you don't want or do so accessibly.  You can remove features you don't want.  I don't know if the browser has features you want but if you don't know about the uninstallation option, you may want to ask more about it here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

I use Avast! free antivirus on Windows 7, 64bit, but to make it
NVDA-accessible, I am obliged to have self-defense turned off. It is
also packaged with a browser called Avast Safe Zone Browser. It happens
that I sometimes run into web pages Avast antivirus considers possibly
dangerous, and it blocks me out of them so that I may not have access to
them, even if I try it.


On 7/12/2017 8:12 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
> Dear all,
> I use a Windows 8.1 machine, and usually evade all dodgy websites,
> particularly ones involving social engineering. Thus, I am in need of
> a simple, powerful and accessible anti-virus tool to compliment the
> built-in Windows Defender (which I deem insufficient).
> To thoroughly limit the scope of this question, because I am aware
> that accessible anti-virus pertaining discussions have taken place
> endlessly in the past, which of the following four would a general
> consensus in the NVDA community recommend - Avast, Avira, AVG or
> Sophos? Please note that my personal focus would lie only with the
> free versions of the aforesaid programs.
> I would truly appreciate any assistance.
> Thanks.
>





forgot to tell what youtube down loader i was talking about

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

The down loader I was talking about was the one that was demoed on the nvda audio page.


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Dejan Ristic
 

I use Avast! free antivirus on Windows 7, 64bit, but to make it NVDA-accessible, I am obliged to have self-defense turned off. It is also packaged with a browser called Avast Safe Zone Browser. It happens that I sometimes run into web pages Avast antivirus considers possibly dangerous, and it blocks me out of them so that I may not have access to them, even if I try it.

On 7/12/2017 8:12 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I use a Windows 8.1 machine, and usually evade all dodgy websites,
particularly ones involving social engineering. Thus, I am in need of
a simple, powerful and accessible anti-virus tool to compliment the
built-in Windows Defender (which I deem insufficient).
To thoroughly limit the scope of this question, because I am aware
that accessible anti-virus pertaining discussions have taken place
endlessly in the past, which of the following four would a general
consensus in the NVDA community recommend - Avast, Avira, AVG or
Sophos? Please note that my personal focus would lie only with the
free versions of the aforesaid programs.
I would truly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


free youtube down loader

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I recommend Sophos here. It runs great on all machines I run it on, and it is accessible. It allows me to manage up to ten machines I believe, and just runs great. Highly recommend, and reviews are very favorable, although I have also seen some tech experts recommend that most users stick with MSE these days... still, call me old-school, I can't recommend that an individual run an anti-virus program by an OS vendor... let Microsoft do what they do well. Anyway, that is an opinion, and the ratings for MSE have gotten better lately.

In short, yes, I recommend Sophos.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@...> wrote:
Hi Gene:

You have a good point.  In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
> assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
> statistics.  Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
> online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate should
> be one's attitude or approach.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kevin Huber
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?
>
>
> Hi Antony:
>
> I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
> for the best.  That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
> Kevin Huber
>
> On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
>> This is a ridiculous comment.
>>
>> It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
>> time
>> to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
>> but
>>
>> to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
>> times"
>>
>> is just ridiculous scare-mongering.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>>
>>> Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
>>> them at all times.
>>
>> --
>> We all get the same amount of time - twenty-four hours per day.
>> How you use it is up to you.
>>
>>                                                    Please reply to the
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>> CC
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

Gene
 

It may work in many cases but unless it has been demonstrated or convincingly technically explained in such a way as to give confidence that it works in my version of Windows and with my version of office, I wouldn't do it unless I had a full system backup or image so I could revert.  With todays large hard drives, the amount of room used by programs Is meaningless in terms of storage capacity on the disk.  And if you run low, then an external drive can be used. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers

Well what I did when I found this was found a program on the Microsoft site
called fixit which uninstalled Office correctly. In the case of the maths
add in, I think all you can do there is to reinstall it, as I never had that
one installed.

One thing to watch tythough are some of the more draconian registry cleaners
or browsers with unusual names whicich install code with all the
accessibility taken out.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


> brian.
> may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
> and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
> thanks.
>
> On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> <bglists@...> wrote:
>> Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it.
>> I
>>
>> think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after  a modified
>> one
>> was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
>> restore it. Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers
>>
>>
>>> hi.
>>> i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
>>> completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved
>>> for
>>>
>>> me.
>>> in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
>>> problem happened for me.
>>>
>>> On 7/12/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>> Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
>>>> machines,
>>>>
>>>> especially any office products?
>>>>  Brian
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark" <mark@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi a friend
>>>> Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
>>>> Its a new PC just brought
>>>> And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
>>>> unknown
>>>> Can anyone shed any light on it
>>>> Mark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>




Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

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Is this part of the same problem as the keys. If html in mozilla is screwed up Tbird will be also.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with Thunderbird 45


in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

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Well it often depends on the version of office and even if its been updated during its life. The registry can be a scary place if it gets corrupted. I think that backing up the registry can be a very handy thing to do!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


i think that the best solution for me is not installing office program
in the first time!
i uninstalled with geek uninstaller free version and scanned and
deleted files remained in the registry and nvda works correctly.

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The solution is not to uninstall it. Programs don't take much room and if
you are so low on disk space that having office installed is causing
problems due to lack of space, it's past time to get an external USB hard
drive.

I also believe I saw a message on this subject yesterday that said that
registering the dlls solved the problem after Office was uninstalled. Don't
count on it and don't uninstall office believing that you can solve the
problem that way. My recollection is that I've seen messages from others
saying that the registration procedure didn't solve the problem. There are
some things that should just be left alone.

I'll add that I don't know if a different uninstallation program might
uninstall Office and not cause problems so there may be a solution But I
wouldn't do it until I saw many reports from people running the version of
office I had with the version of Windows I had with the uninstaller that
reported no bad effects.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


brian.
may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
thanks.

On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it.
I

think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after a modified
one
was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
restore it. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


hi.
i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved
for

me.
in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
problem happened for me.

On 7/12/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
machines,

especially any office products?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <mark@tafn.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


Hi a friend
Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
Its a new PC just brought
And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
unknown
Can anyone shed any light on it
Mark.





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imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org






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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
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imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org


Re: Trying NVDA Version: master-14175,caeb1923

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I'm not having problems in any version of Firefox with next or master snaps on windows 7 here, other than those already known about by Sourceforge of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying NVDA Version: master-14175,caeb1923


please test and help me even off list.
i wish that know about new features, but my browser gives error and
could not test.
i specially wish that know about using nvda 17.3 in firefox.
because firefox is the only program that i use all the times!
i waite for your help and guide about nvda 17.3

On 7/13/17, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am trying out NVDA snap shot Version: master-14175,caeb1923 This came out
on July 11, so I will let you know how this works compared to NVDA version
2017.2
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


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Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:

You have a good point. In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
statistics. Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate should
be one's attitude or approach.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?


Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best. That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment.

It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
time
to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
but

to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
times"

is just ridiculous scare-mongering.


Antony.

On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
them at all times.
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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well what I did when I found this was found a program on the Microsoft site called fixit which uninstalled Office correctly. In the case of the maths add in, I think all you can do there is to reinstall it, as I never had that one installed.

One thing to watch tythough are some of the more draconian registry cleaners or browsers with unusual names whicich install code with all the accessibility taken out.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


brian.
may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
thanks.

On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it. I

think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after a modified one
was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
restore it. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


hi.
i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved for

me.
in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
problem happened for me.

On 7/12/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
machines,

especially any office products?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <mark@tafn.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


Hi a friend
Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
Its a new PC just brought
And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
unknown
Can anyone shed any light on it
Mark.





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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

Gerardo Corripio
 

Weird! I've been using Thunderbird without problems since I first installed Thunderbird (I used to have Thunderbird portable 3.31) several months ago, with Thunderbird 45.7 I think it was. I'm now on Thunderbird latest, 52 something, continuing to work great!

El 13/07/2017 a las 10:14 a.m., nasrin khaksar escribió:
in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

 

in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


--
Arnþór Helgason, vináttusendiherra, Formaður Kínversk-íslenska
menningarfélagsins,
Tjarnarbóli 14,
170 Seltjarnarnesi.
8973766
arnthor.helgason@simnet.is arnthor.helgason@gmail.com kim@kim.is
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is

Arnthor Helgason,
Friendship Ambassador,
Chairman of The Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society,
Tjarnarbol 14,
170 Seltjarnarnes, Iceland.
(00354) 8973766
http://hljod.blog.is
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Problems with Thunderbird 45

Arnþór Helgason
 

I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps. My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


--
Arnþór Helgason, vináttusendiherra, Formaður Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins,
Tjarnarbóli 14,
170 Seltjarnarnesi.
8973766
arnthor.helgason@... arnthor.helgason@... kim@...
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is

Arnthor Helgason,
Friendship Ambassador,
Chairman of The Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society,
Tjarnarbol 14,
170 Seltjarnarnes, Iceland.
(00354) 8973766
http://hljod.blog.is
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Gene
 

It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or statistics.  Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate should be one's attitude or approach.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best.  That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
> This is a ridiculous comment.
>
> It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
> time
> to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too), but
>
> to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all times"
>
> is just ridiculous scare-mongering.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>
>> Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
>> them at all times.
>
> --
> We all get the same amount of time - twenty-four hours per day.
> How you use it is up to you.
>
>                                                    Please reply to the
> list;
>                                                          please *don't* CC
> me.
>
>
>
>



Re: vlc nvda add on commands

Kevin Huber
 

Hi:

I think that the add-ons are also tested for malware before they are approved.
Kevin Huber

On 7/12/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,


Don't be Leary of using the add ons. They enhance the functionality of
NVDA and believe me, make loads of things a lot easier to work with and
manage.

Tony
On 7/11/2017 4:00 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
thanks gene for understanding me and your clarification about your
previous comments about addons in this post and even previous ones!
God bless you!

On 7/11/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I know you didn't say that others shouldn't use add ons. I'm simply
telling
you that you are causing yourself a lot of inconvenience and
accessibility
problems by your refusal to use add ons.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc nvda add on commands


thanks hareth for your link.
i copied and saved it to study and learn.
gene,
i dont say to people dont use addon or not.
i only said my view point and idea to like only use nvda installer
file, nothing else.

On 7/10/17, Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com> wrote:
This web page has a lot of VLC shortcut keys, it might help:
https://shortcutworld.com/en/VLC-Media-Player/win/all

TC

On 7/10/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't use VLC Player. I have it on my machine and I looked at
information
and played with the add on to get information but I haven't recorded
with
the player. Again, if you weren't so adamant about not using add ons,
despite the probably thousands of NVDA users who do without problems,
you
could tab around, hear information read, and you might well be able to
figure it out that way. And you might well get audio feedback when
you
take
actions such as start recording that you likely don't get without the
add
on.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 10:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc nvda add on commands


hi gene.
i realy needed shufle mode for my player and cant use player without
this feature!
i sincerely appreciate you because you thought me r for shufle and l
for loop playback.
can you also please explane me how to use audio capture in vlc?
this is the last feature in player which i need and use.
i wanted to sincerely appreciate you and divine infinite mercy i pray
for
you.

On 7/10/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Gene,


Lol! You got that right buddy! Some stuff will just have to be dug
for.


Tony

On 7/10/2017 10:15 AM, Gene wrote:
But many commands aren't in the menus. That's why I discussed how to
find
lists of short cut keys yesterday.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Ballou<mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc nvda add on commands


Hi,


I did a similar search yesterday typing in the phrase VLC media
player
help
and they do have a wiki with all of their documentation there
including
a
table listing all of the available hot keys. Since it is an open
source
project, some of the writing is dated, I believe that one of the
files
was
last updated as far back as 2011 with no updates since then though.
The
program itself, uses the classic windows graphic user interface and
as
you
arrow through the menus, the corresponding keyboard shortcuts are
presented
to you so if push comes to shove, you can with a degree of patience
create
your own custom sheet tailored to your needs.


Tony




On 7/10/2017 8:28 AM, Gene wrote:

I didn't look for a tutorial. Do a Google search for VLC Media
Player
tutorial. You'll see whatever I would see. I haven't ever looked
for
one.
There is, evidently, a lot of help documentation on the web site but
I
haven't checked. But if you open help in the player, you are
referred
to
the web site. In the case of popular programs, there is often a good
deal
of material that has nothing to do with the web site. So don't do
searches
that specify the web site. Just search for something like VLC
tutorial.
You might also want to search for things like VLC help or VLC manual.
You
may get better results by using the phrase VLC Media Player before
what
you
are looking for.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar<mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 4:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc nvda add on commands

hi gene.
could you please send me the link documentation for using vlc?
i searched and loked for tutorial in there website, but unfortunately
could not find anything.

On 7/10/17, Tony Ballou
<cyberpro224@outlook.com<mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hey Gene,


Absolutely bro! Your talking gospel! It sure would make sense. It
felt
like I was having to be my own language translator when I first
started
using the program back in the day. I may have a list of the keyboard
shortcuts for the VLC media player around here somewhere. If so
I'll
put
them up.


tony

On 7/9/2017 3:50 PM, Gene wrote:
There are no commands specifically for the ad on. the add on
announces
things that occurred before but without speech so you didn't know
that
anything was happening or if you did, you had to memorize or guess
what.
After the add on is installed open VLC player and tab. You will tab
through
lots of items. To change the state of an item, press enter on it.
The
space bar doesn't do anything. Letters that are short cut commands
take
actions which are announced. I don't think the commands you can
control
by
short cut commands are in addition to those you can perform by
tabbing.
I
think they are some of the same commands. I don't know how many are
provided. If you get a list of short cuts for VLC Player, you can
try
various letter shortcuts. One of them, for example, is shuffle on
and
off.
The letter r controls this command. In the list of short cuts, this
is
described as random. Wouldn't it be nice if VLC player
documentation
used
the English language as we know it? The generally accepted name for
the
command is not random, but shuffle.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Andre Fisher<mailto:andrefisher729@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 2:34 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io%3Cmailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: [nvda] vlc nvda add on commands

Where have you looked?

On 7/9/17, Tony Ballou
<cyberpro224@outlook.com<mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com<mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com%3Cmailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>>>
wrote:
howdy,,


There's a tutorial on using the VLC Media player add on at the
following
website

www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%3Chttp://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda>>

Hope this helps.


Tony


On 7/9/2017 1:53 PM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello where in the vlc add on do you go to find the list of
commands
and how to use the add on? when looking I can't seem to find any
info
on how to use the add on

Hank







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best. That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment.

It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
time
to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too), but

to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all times"

is just ridiculous scare-mongering.


Antony.

On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
them at all times.
--
We all get the same amount of time - twenty-four hours per day.
How you use it is up to you.

Please reply to the
list;
please *don't* CC
me.