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Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Graham Armfield
 

I too am experiencing this. Coincidentally have just raised another thread on it - so apologies for duplication.


Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Graham Armfield
 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: free youtube down loader

 

If you mean youtube dl it doesn't I have it and the youtube dl-g and it works.

For youtube to mp3 or other dvdvideosoft software thats full of opencandy and other malware.

On 14/07/2017 6:02 a.m., Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.




Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

 

I would have to disagree, sophos killed several files immediately and I can't seem to find how to get them back all false positives stuff I had allready excluded in msse.

I sent a message to nvda list.

I may retry again as soon as I can get the system to work right again.

I have just restored the system again and luckily only lost one update to windows.

On 14/07/2017 4:35 a.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello,

I recommend Sophos here. It runs great on all machines I run it on, and it
is accessible. It allows me to manage up to ten machines I believe, and
just runs great. Highly recommend, and reviews are very favorable, although
I have also seen some tech experts recommend that most users stick with MSE
these days... still, call me old-school, I can't recommend that an
individual run an anti-virus program by an OS vendor... let Microsoft do
what they do well. Anyway, that is an opinion, and the ratings for MSE have
gotten better lately.

In short, yes, I recommend Sophos.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gene:

You have a good point. In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
statistics. Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate
should
be one's attitude or approach.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?


Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best. That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment.

It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
time
to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
but

to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
times"

is just ridiculous scare-mongering.


Antony.

On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
them at all times.
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Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Hi all,

 

I have bought a new Lenovo laptop model Ideapad 510s 80UV003MIH which came with Windows 10 Home pre loaded. I have upgraded the same to creators update and I am running NVDA 2017.2.

 

I am facing a major speech delay with NVDA. I have updated all drivers and have removed all non essential utilities from the machine. When I install NVDA the installation hangs till I Alt+Tab to another window and then it completes. The sound of the progress bar during installation is also weird.

 

The average speech delay is 1.5 seconds per keystroke and it adds up if I am typing a long sentence. I have tried using eSpeak and SAPPI and various voices but the problem persists.

 

I think it is a driver clash but I cannot figure it out. I will be very grateful to anyone who can help me with this.

 

Cheers

Mohit


sophos help

 

Hi.

Well Decided to give sophos home a try.

My initial review is as follows.

1. interface bar the fact there are no progress bars the program seems to work.

2. all the interface is mostly on the web and acceptions seem easy ish to add.

The notifier is just that a simple cut down interface but thats where it stops.

The following issues had me immediately running system restore and going back to msse.

1. On installing sophos found at least 8 programs that were malware.

Sadly they were scroling battles universe, gma dice, classic pipe by blindsoftware and ed sharp nir cmd as well as the same program in filedir and a few other things.

Fine, I just have to add them.

Wrong, almost immediately the generic malware and unwanted files were killed.

And then windows wanted to restart to turn on user account control.

Ok, I can turn it off again, no problem.

Lets see what to do about this issue with sophos.

As far as I can tell and from research on the net once the file is deleted it seems gone.

There isn't anyway in history of getting the files restored from it and no way to use history to add acceptions there is no way to make the thing not process alerts immediately allowing me to add the acceptions.

There is no way to recover the files afterwards and from sophos forums they suggest restoring from a backup of the file.

There have been horror stories also where entire file folders and other things of photos and sd cards of important data were killed.

So am I a idiot, am I doing something wrong.

Or am I just plain dumb.

But from what I read I come to the conclusions.

Sophos is good in killing things as long as you don'

't need them back.

2. Sophos may allow you to add acceptions but who knows.

3. sophos seems to want to know what is best.

So did norton thats why I have msse.

This is not a good start for a supposedly glowing antivirus program.

I need control, msse still has an easier interface to control.

I really don't care to go to a website to control everything I'd really like to control the thing from a client interface.

Lets face it I am a desktop guy.


Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Arn'or,

I would do a total uninstall and then upgrade to the latest version of Thunderbird at mozilla.com/thunderbird.  I have no such issues using the latest NVDA 2017.2. 

On 7/13/2017 10:52 AM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps. My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Gene
 

I don't know if you can turn off features you don't want or do so accessibly.  You can remove features you don't want.  I don't know if the browser has features you want but if you don't know about the uninstallation option, you may want to ask more about it here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

I use Avast! free antivirus on Windows 7, 64bit, but to make it
NVDA-accessible, I am obliged to have self-defense turned off. It is
also packaged with a browser called Avast Safe Zone Browser. It happens
that I sometimes run into web pages Avast antivirus considers possibly
dangerous, and it blocks me out of them so that I may not have access to
them, even if I try it.


On 7/12/2017 8:12 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
> Dear all,
> I use a Windows 8.1 machine, and usually evade all dodgy websites,
> particularly ones involving social engineering. Thus, I am in need of
> a simple, powerful and accessible anti-virus tool to compliment the
> built-in Windows Defender (which I deem insufficient).
> To thoroughly limit the scope of this question, because I am aware
> that accessible anti-virus pertaining discussions have taken place
> endlessly in the past, which of the following four would a general
> consensus in the NVDA community recommend - Avast, Avira, AVG or
> Sophos? Please note that my personal focus would lie only with the
> free versions of the aforesaid programs.
> I would truly appreciate any assistance.
> Thanks.
>





forgot to tell what youtube down loader i was talking about

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

The down loader I was talking about was the one that was demoed on the nvda audio page.


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Dejan Ristic
 

I use Avast! free antivirus on Windows 7, 64bit, but to make it NVDA-accessible, I am obliged to have self-defense turned off. It is also packaged with a browser called Avast Safe Zone Browser. It happens that I sometimes run into web pages Avast antivirus considers possibly dangerous, and it blocks me out of them so that I may not have access to them, even if I try it.

On 7/12/2017 8:12 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I use a Windows 8.1 machine, and usually evade all dodgy websites,
particularly ones involving social engineering. Thus, I am in need of
a simple, powerful and accessible anti-virus tool to compliment the
built-in Windows Defender (which I deem insufficient).
To thoroughly limit the scope of this question, because I am aware
that accessible anti-virus pertaining discussions have taken place
endlessly in the past, which of the following four would a general
consensus in the NVDA community recommend - Avast, Avira, AVG or
Sophos? Please note that my personal focus would lie only with the
free versions of the aforesaid programs.
I would truly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


free youtube down loader

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I recommend Sophos here. It runs great on all machines I run it on, and it is accessible. It allows me to manage up to ten machines I believe, and just runs great. Highly recommend, and reviews are very favorable, although I have also seen some tech experts recommend that most users stick with MSE these days... still, call me old-school, I can't recommend that an individual run an anti-virus program by an OS vendor... let Microsoft do what they do well. Anyway, that is an opinion, and the ratings for MSE have gotten better lately.

In short, yes, I recommend Sophos.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@...> wrote:
Hi Gene:

You have a good point.  In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
> assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
> statistics.  Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
> online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate should
> be one's attitude or approach.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Kevin Huber
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?
>
>
> Hi Antony:
>
> I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
> for the best.  That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
> Kevin Huber
>
> On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
>> This is a ridiculous comment.
>>
>> It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
>> time
>> to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
>> but
>>
>> to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
>> times"
>>
>> is just ridiculous scare-mongering.
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>>
>>> Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
>>> them at all times.
>>
>> --
>> We all get the same amount of time - twenty-four hours per day.
>> How you use it is up to you.
>>
>>                                                    Please reply to the
>> list;
>>                                                          please *don't*
>> CC
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

Gene
 

It may work in many cases but unless it has been demonstrated or convincingly technically explained in such a way as to give confidence that it works in my version of Windows and with my version of office, I wouldn't do it unless I had a full system backup or image so I could revert.  With todays large hard drives, the amount of room used by programs Is meaningless in terms of storage capacity on the disk.  And if you run low, then an external drive can be used. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers

Well what I did when I found this was found a program on the Microsoft site
called fixit which uninstalled Office correctly. In the case of the maths
add in, I think all you can do there is to reinstall it, as I never had that
one installed.

One thing to watch tythough are some of the more draconian registry cleaners
or browsers with unusual names whicich install code with all the
accessibility taken out.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


> brian.
> may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
> and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
> thanks.
>
> On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> <bglists@...> wrote:
>> Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it.
>> I
>>
>> think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after  a modified
>> one
>> was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
>> restore it. Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers
>>
>>
>>> hi.
>>> i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
>>> completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved
>>> for
>>>
>>> me.
>>> in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
>>> problem happened for me.
>>>
>>> On 7/12/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>>> <bglists@...> wrote:
>>>> Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
>>>> machines,
>>>>
>>>> especially any office products?
>>>>  Brian
>>>>
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mark" <mark@...>
>>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
>>>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi a friend
>>>> Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
>>>> Its a new PC just brought
>>>> And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
>>>> unknown
>>>> Can anyone shed any light on it
>>>> Mark.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>




Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

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Is this part of the same problem as the keys. If html in mozilla is screwed up Tbird will be also.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with Thunderbird 45


in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

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Well it often depends on the version of office and even if its been updated during its life. The registry can be a scary place if it gets corrupted. I think that backing up the registry can be a very handy thing to do!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


i think that the best solution for me is not installing office program
in the first time!
i uninstalled with geek uninstaller free version and scanned and
deleted files remained in the registry and nvda works correctly.

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The solution is not to uninstall it. Programs don't take much room and if
you are so low on disk space that having office installed is causing
problems due to lack of space, it's past time to get an external USB hard
drive.

I also believe I saw a message on this subject yesterday that said that
registering the dlls solved the problem after Office was uninstalled. Don't
count on it and don't uninstall office believing that you can solve the
problem that way. My recollection is that I've seen messages from others
saying that the registration procedure didn't solve the problem. There are
some things that should just be left alone.

I'll add that I don't know if a different uninstallation program might
uninstall Office and not cause problems so there may be a solution But I
wouldn't do it until I saw many reports from people running the version of
office I had with the version of Windows I had with the uninstaller that
reported no bad effects.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


brian.
may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
thanks.

On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it.
I

think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after a modified
one
was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
restore it. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


hi.
i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved
for

me.
in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
problem happened for me.

On 7/12/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
machines,

especially any office products?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <mark@tafn.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


Hi a friend
Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
Its a new PC just brought
And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
unknown
Can anyone shed any light on it
Mark.





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al-islam.org






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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



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Re: Trying NVDA Version: master-14175,caeb1923

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I'm not having problems in any version of Firefox with next or master snaps on windows 7 here, other than those already known about by Sourceforge of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying NVDA Version: master-14175,caeb1923


please test and help me even off list.
i wish that know about new features, but my browser gives error and
could not test.
i specially wish that know about using nvda 17.3 in firefox.
because firefox is the only program that i use all the times!
i waite for your help and guide about nvda 17.3

On 7/13/17, David Moore <jesusloves1966@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am trying out NVDA snap shot Version: master-14175,caeb1923 This came out
on July 11, so I will let you know how this works compared to NVDA version
2017.2
David Moore
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Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Kevin Huber
 

Hi Gene:

You have a good point. In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
statistics. Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate should
be one's attitude or approach.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?


Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best. That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment.

It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
time
to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
but

to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
times"

is just ridiculous scare-mongering.


Antony.

On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
them at all times.
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How you use it is up to you.

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Re: NVDA problem with Browsers

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well what I did when I found this was found a program on the Microsoft site called fixit which uninstalled Office correctly. In the case of the maths add in, I think all you can do there is to reinstall it, as I never had that one installed.

One thing to watch tythough are some of the more draconian registry cleaners or browsers with unusual names whicich install code with all the accessibility taken out.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


brian.
may i ask whats the solution when we want to uninstall office program
and we dont want interfeer with using nvda?
thanks.

On 7/13/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes it could be any number of things changing the registry that cause it. I

think its inadequacies on the restoring of old files after a modified one
was in use, and then they forget to re register the old one when they
restore it. Brian

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From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


hi.
i had this problem using nvda 2016.3
completely uninstalled and reinstalled nvda and the problem is solved for

me.
in that time, i uninstalled openoffice and maybe because of this, the
problem happened for me.

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Has he uninstalled any of the grottyware that comes with many new
machines,

especially any office products?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark" <mark@tafn.org.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA problem with Browsers


Hi a friend
Has NVDA latest version with windows 10 64bit
Its a new PC just brought
And if he goes to any Browser ie firefox it just said on all pages
unknown
Can anyone shed any light on it
Mark.





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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org


Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

Gerardo Corripio
 

Weird! I've been using Thunderbird without problems since I first installed Thunderbird (I used to have Thunderbird portable 3.31) several months ago, with Thunderbird 45.7 I think it was. I'm now on Thunderbird latest, 52 something, continuing to work great!

El 13/07/2017 a las 10:14 a.m., nasrin khaksar escribió:
in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

 

in which version of thunderbird, you did not have accessibility issues?

On 7/13/17, Arnþór Helgason <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get
some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some
emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps.
My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


--
Arnþór Helgason, vináttusendiherra, Formaður Kínversk-íslenska
menningarfélagsins,
Tjarnarbóli 14,
170 Seltjarnarnesi.
8973766
arnthor.helgason@simnet.is arnthor.helgason@gmail.com kim@kim.is
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is

Arnthor Helgason,
Friendship Ambassador,
Chairman of The Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society,
Tjarnarbol 14,
170 Seltjarnarnes, Iceland.
(00354) 8973766
http://hljod.blog.is
http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org