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Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

David Moore
 

Wow, Gene!

I will be looking forward to that. Sounds exciting.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

hi David

I will be adding into the tutorial where to look for the text review commands or is it the other way around and also for object navigation for people who have not use them only where to look in the user manual. That will be done in the next day or so.

In the audio one there are 2 ways of searching one can come up in a list and the other is by the results when tabbing etc.
hopefully they are easy to under stand.

Gene nz

On 7/13/2017 9:24 PM, David Moore wrote:

Thanks a lot, Gene!

I have them. I can’t wait to listen to them to see if there is something that you say that I have not known.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

New Added new page called  How to use the Windows 10 store with the NVDA screen reader (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page). http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There is both a written and audio tutorial.

 

Regards
Gene NZ

 

 

 

On 7/10/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Recently updated to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/:

New notification from autoplay USB drive, “select what happens with removable drives” message; and
NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places (on the NVDA Audio tutorials page). Please find the link as follows
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Gene NZ

On 6/23/2017 6:13 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi guys

 

 

RECENTLY UPDATED to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

 

Adding a Windows OneCore TTS voice to your PC in Windows 10 http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

 

New: Added new page called How to use the free YouTube Downloader program with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page) http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 6/2/2017 7:50 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi guys

RECENTLY UPDATED to accessibilitycentral.net

Added information on the NVDA expert exam (link to the list of certified experts, and to where you can sit the exam) to all NVDA related pages.


Added link to Switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA tutorial (by Gene Asner) to the Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader page.

Gene NZ

 

On 31/05/2017 2:53 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -



 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Rui Fontes
 

That is strange!
I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago, last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...

Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohit Singla
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem remains.



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?

Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound control panel.

On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:


Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.

Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield



Re: Problems with Thunderbird 45

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Arnthor


I am guessing you have a extra tab up when you go into thunder bird. It happens when thunder bird updates and you get a whats new to read.


The easiest way is to reopen Mozilla thunder bird and you will only need to tab once or may be two times.

When you tab once listen to hear if it says like 1 of 2 tabs or 2 of 2 tabs. If this is the case you are on the second tab where the whats new section is. Use the left arrow key to get back to the first tab, then tab until you hear tree view. You should be right after that.


Depending how you have your thunder bird set up you might have to tab 2 times but it may only be the once and you are listening to see which tab it is on i am guessing the second one.


By the way do you have your thunder bird oopen in tabs or a new window?


I can send directions of how to do it for a new windows if you like.


hope the above helps.


Gene nz



On 7/14/2017 2:52 AM, Arnþór Helgason wrote:
I may have missed this subject.
Since thunderbird 45 came around I have had constant problems. I only get some information about what is new in Thunderbird and I can hear that some emails arrive but I am unable to open them, send email and work with maps. My only solution has been the Gmail software on the web.
What is the problem and can it be solved?

Best regards,
Arnthor Helgason


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http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi David

I will be adding into the tutorial where to look for the text review commands or is it the other way around and also for object navigation for people who have not use them only where to look in the user manual. That will be done in the next day or so.

In the audio one there are 2 ways of searching one can come up in a list and the other is by the results when tabbing etc.
hopefully they are easy to under stand.

Gene nz

On 7/13/2017 9:24 PM, David Moore wrote:

Thanks a lot, Gene!

I have them. I can’t wait to listen to them to see if there is something that you say that I have not known.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

New Added new page called  How to use the Windows 10 store with the NVDA screen reader (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page). http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There is both a written and audio tutorial.

 

Regards
Gene NZ

 

 

 

On 7/10/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Recently updated to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/:

New notification from autoplay USB drive, “select what happens with removable drives” message; and
NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places (on the NVDA Audio tutorials page). Please find the link as follows
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Gene NZ

On 6/23/2017 6:13 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi guys

 

 

RECENTLY UPDATED to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

 

Adding a Windows OneCore TTS voice to your PC in Windows 10 http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

 

New: Added new page called How to use the free YouTube Downloader program with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page) http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 6/2/2017 7:50 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi guys

RECENTLY UPDATED to accessibilitycentral.net

Added information on the NVDA expert exam (link to the list of certified experts, and to where you can sit the exam) to all NVDA related pages.


Added link to Switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA tutorial (by Gene Asner) to the Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader page.

Gene NZ

 

On 31/05/2017 2:53 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Mohit Singla
 

I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem remains.



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?

Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound control panel.

On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:


Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.

Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield



Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

I should add that not all enhancements are bad.

Micropyhone enhancements are really good for recording.

But audio ones to make things sound really cool just doesn't work.

This excludes if you have the speakers/ amps and other eq things like I do here.

You can make things sound really cool if you know how.

But with software that just doesn't work that well.

Unless you have a card that does this in its hardware and doesn

't need the software.

On 14/07/2017 8:52 a.m., Don H wrote:
Check if there is a enhancements mode on your sound card. If so disable it.


On 7/13/2017 2:36 PM, Graham Armfield wrote:
Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: free youtube down loader

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


if it is the one from off the accessibility central website it is clean i think it is on the nvda tutorials for other programs page. it works well I got the space 1999 shows with it and other stuff.


Gene nz



On 7/14/2017 6:02 AM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.





--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Tyler Spivey
 

For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?

Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound control panel.

On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:


Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.

Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Don H
 

Check if there is a enhancements mode on your sound card.  If so disable it.


On 7/13/2017 2:36 PM, Graham Armfield wrote:
Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I certainly do not see this issue here with latest insider build and latest NVDA next snapshot.

Thanks.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 3:43 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

A request for resident Windows Insiders: can you see if this was resolved somewhat in latest Insider builds please?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohit Singla
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

 

Hi, 

I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows app essentials.

My problem starts right from installation.

 

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the one I created. 

 

Mohit Singla


On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Graham Armfield
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield

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Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Hi,

A request for resident Windows Insiders: can you see if this was resolved somewhat in latest Insider builds please?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mohit Singla
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

 

Hi, 

I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows app essentials.

My problem starts right from installation.

 

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the one I created. 

 

Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507


On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Graham Armfield
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Mohit Singla
 



Hi, 
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.

Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the one I created. 

Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Graham Armfield
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Hi,

Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode i.e. add-ons disabled.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Graham Armfield
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Jacob Kruger
 

What TTS engine/synth are you working with/using?


And, just in case, do you have the windows 10 app essentials add-on installed?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-07-13 21:36, Graham Armfield wrote:

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: free youtube down loader

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

sounds very good.

On 7/13/2017 3:42 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
If you mean youtube dl it doesn't I have it and the youtube dl-g and it works.

For youtube to mp3 or other dvdvideosoft software thats full of opencandy and other malware.




On 14/07/2017 6:02 a.m., Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.







Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Graham Armfield
 

I too am experiencing this. Coincidentally have just raised another thread on it - so apologies for duplication.


Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Graham Armfield
 

Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: free youtube down loader

 

If you mean youtube dl it doesn't I have it and the youtube dl-g and it works.

For youtube to mp3 or other dvdvideosoft software thats full of opencandy and other malware.

On 14/07/2017 6:02 a.m., Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.




Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

 

I would have to disagree, sophos killed several files immediately and I can't seem to find how to get them back all false positives stuff I had allready excluded in msse.

I sent a message to nvda list.

I may retry again as soon as I can get the system to work right again.

I have just restored the system again and luckily only lost one update to windows.

On 14/07/2017 4:35 a.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello,

I recommend Sophos here. It runs great on all machines I run it on, and it
is accessible. It allows me to manage up to ten machines I believe, and
just runs great. Highly recommend, and reviews are very favorable, although
I have also seen some tech experts recommend that most users stick with MSE
these days... still, call me old-school, I can't recommend that an
individual run an anti-virus program by an OS vendor... let Microsoft do
what they do well. Anyway, that is an opinion, and the ratings for MSE have
gotten better lately.

In short, yes, I recommend Sophos.

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Gene:

You have a good point. In fact, I rthink that you are quite right I
never thought of the fact that one might become afraid to venture into
something new.

thanks for pointing that out.
Kevin

On 7/13/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It is better to base opinions on facts as much as possible rather than
assuming or hoping based on a generalization unsupported by facts or
statistics. Assuming the worst can lead to not taking advantage of many
online opportunities because of fear not based on what facts indicate
should
be one's attitude or approach.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kevin Huber
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?


Hi Antony:

I think you are right, but it is better to assume the worst and hope
for the best. That way, you are less likely to be taken by surprise.
Kevin Huber

On 7/13/17, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
This is a ridiculous comment.

It's true that some people's computers do get infected with viruses from
time
to time (and, of course, some organisations' networks get infected too),
but

to suggest that "all systems have or will have viruses on them at all
times"

is just ridiculous scare-mongering.


Antony.

On Thursday 13 July 2017 at 09:53:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Its a given that the systems all systems have or will have viruses on
them at all times.
--
We all get the same amount of time - twenty-four hours per day.
How you use it is up to you.

Please reply to the
list;
please *don't*
CC
me.




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My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(218-606-0475) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
you, and have a great day!


Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Hi all,

 

I have bought a new Lenovo laptop model Ideapad 510s 80UV003MIH which came with Windows 10 Home pre loaded. I have upgraded the same to creators update and I am running NVDA 2017.2.

 

I am facing a major speech delay with NVDA. I have updated all drivers and have removed all non essential utilities from the machine. When I install NVDA the installation hangs till I Alt+Tab to another window and then it completes. The sound of the progress bar during installation is also weird.

 

The average speech delay is 1.5 seconds per keystroke and it adds up if I am typing a long sentence. I have tried using eSpeak and SAPPI and various voices but the problem persists.

 

I think it is a driver clash but I cannot figure it out. I will be very grateful to anyone who can help me with this.

 

Cheers

Mohit