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Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Gene
 

I don't know if you've gotten to the part of the thread where turning off enhancements was recommended.  Considering the spotty record of the disability service, that they cause new problems for many people they help whether they solve the original problem or not and they recommend and do things that are not going to solve the problem and may cause completely unnecessary problems such as uninstalling Office, which should not be done because it breaks accessibility working properly in NVDA, it is a much better idea, unless not possible, to ask about a problem here first.  The list should not be the last resort.  You often get better help on good lists than from places like the disability service or computer shops. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad  510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to not be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point. Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my setup that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me it didn't make any difference.


Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Graham Armfield
 

For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad  510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to not be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point. Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my setup that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me it didn't make any difference.


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Brian's Mail list account
 

Um, get a better machine?

Having said that, the current master and next snaps seem to actually work fast on my xp machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable


i am very glad that your problem is resolved.
and whats the solution for windows xp users?
i appreciate any help.

On 7/14/17, Mohit Singla <bookscoffeeme@...> wrote:
Thanks guys I have been able to fix it. Tyler's suggestion to disable
enhancements worked and now NVDA is extremely snappy and well responding.

Here is what I did:
In control Panel go to sounds and then the Playback devices tab
Open Properties of Playback devices and go to the Enhancements tab.
Under Enhancements Check the box Disable all sound effects
Press Ok and Ok again on the Properties Tab
You will see the effect immediately.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the solution.

Cheers
Mohit



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 4:22 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot,
and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour
ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I
have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?
Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control
panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound
control panel.
On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread.
I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.
Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.
Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507
On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable
Dear All,
A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.
Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.
Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.
Thanks
Graham Armfield




















--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Brian's Mail list account
 

That is a bit naughty, to turn on some new gizmo without telling anybody.
The question has to be, what exactly is this feature there for and how can it be of use when it is so resource hungry.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mohit Singla" <bookscoffeeme@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable


Thanks guys I have been able to fix it. Tyler's suggestion to disable enhancements worked and now NVDA is extremely snappy and well responding.

Here is what I did:
In control Panel go to sounds and then the Playback devices tab
Open Properties of Playback devices and go to the Enhancements tab.
Under Enhancements Check the box Disable all sound effects
Press Ok and Ok again on the Properties Tab
You will see the effect immediately.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the solution.

Cheers
Mohit



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 4:22 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot, and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?
Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound
control panel.
On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.
Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.
Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507
On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable
Dear All,
A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.
Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.
Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.
Thanks
Graham Armfield


















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Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I had a query from someone today asking if they do a live broadcast on YouTube, can they read and reply or block or delete etc to comments viewers make on the broadcast while they are still broadcasting?

Has anyone does this and able to give some pointers please?

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Brian's Mail list account
 

What does Narrator work like delay wise?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Armfield" <graham.armfield@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable


Dear All,

A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update. Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible to use.

Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers, conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the nuclear option.

Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: free youtube down loader

Brian's Mail list account
 

Opencandy can be controlled though, its only an issue if you do not spot it at install time.
I don't think its meant to be a pain but tends to be to us as some of the installers don't work correctly with screenreaders.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] free youtube down loader


If you mean youtube dl it doesn't I have it and the youtube dl-g and it works.

For youtube to mp3 or other dvdvideosoft software thats full of opencandy and other malware.




On 14/07/2017 6:02 a.m., Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.





Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Brian's Mail list account
 

All I can suggest for now is check what the processor idle speed and all that power saving stuff is set to. It does seem that Windows is not good at realising that the nvda screenreader needs resources when you do things. It was particularly noticable when using windows explorer, often resulting in the wrong file being highlighted.

If its not that then I really do not know what else there is. What does Narrator perform like?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mohit Singla" <bookscoffeeme@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:35 PM
Subject: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


Hi all,



I have bought a new Lenovo laptop model Ideapad 510s 80UV003MIH which came
with Windows 10 Home pre loaded. I have upgraded the same to creators
update and I am running NVDA 2017.2.



I am facing a major speech delay with NVDA. I have updated all drivers and
have removed all non essential utilities from the machine. When I install
NVDA the installation hangs till I Alt+Tab to another window and then it
completes. The sound of the progress bar during installation is also weird.



The average speech delay is 1.5 seconds per keystroke and it adds up if I
am typing a long sentence. I have tried using eSpeak and SAPPI and various
voices but the problem persists.



I think it is a driver clash but I cannot figure it out. I will be very
grateful to anyone who can help me with this.



Cheers

Mohit


Re: How can I tell if my computer has the Creaters update?

 

you can find informations about your system i think in this pc property.
for me who use xp, i press alt+enter on my computer and see these
informations using screen review.

On 7/14/17, John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
That might have something to do with the quick navigation keys not working.
Or it could be because a Microsoft update
turned on an accessibility feature that is interfering with NVDA.

Thanks,
John

--
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Email: john.boyer@...
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM
services
that are available at no cost





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

i am very glad that your problem is resolved.
and whats the solution for windows xp users?
i appreciate any help.

On 7/14/17, Mohit Singla <bookscoffeeme@...> wrote:
Thanks guys I have been able to fix it. Tyler's suggestion to disable
enhancements worked and now NVDA is extremely snappy and well responding.

Here is what I did:
In control Panel go to sounds and then the Playback devices tab
Open Properties of Playback devices and go to the Enhancements tab.
Under Enhancements Check the box Disable all sound effects
Press Ok and Ok again on the Properties Tab
You will see the effect immediately.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the solution.

Cheers
Mohit



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 4:22 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot,
and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour
ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I
have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?
Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control
panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound
control panel.
On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread.
I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.
Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.
Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507
On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable
Dear All,
A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.
Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.
Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.
Thanks
Graham Armfield



















--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Mohit Singla
 

Thanks guys I have been able to fix it. Tyler's suggestion to disable enhancements worked and now NVDA is extremely snappy and well responding.

Here is what I did:
In control Panel go to sounds and then the Playback devices tab
Open Properties of Playback devices and go to the Enhancements tab.
Under Enhancements Check the box Disable all sound effects
Press Ok and Ok again on the Properties Tab
You will see the effect immediately.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the solution.

Cheers
Mohit



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 4:22 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot, and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?
Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound
control panel.
On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.
Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.
Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507
On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable
Dear All,
A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.
Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.
Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.
Thanks
Graham Armfield


















How can I tell if my computer has the Creaters update?

John J. Boyer
 

That might have something to do with the quick navigation keys not working. Or it could be because a Microsoft update
turned on an accessibility feature that is interfering with NVDA.

Thanks,
John

--
John J. Boyer
Email: john.boyer@...
website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org
Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live.
Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services
that are available at no cost


Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Yes it happens everywhere. Narrator works fine. So it is a NVDA related issue.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 14 July 2017 04:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

 

Does it happen everywhere?  ie, if you open notepad and type, or if you are navigating around the NVDA menu?

 

Also, being a new machine, could it be downloading Windows updates?  Windows 10 is not particularly friendly about sharing resources when it sees an update it wants to download and that can cause slow downs.

 

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Graham Armfield <graham.armfield@...> wrote:

I too am experiencing this. Coincidentally have just raised another thread on it - so apologies for duplication.



 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 

 


Speech Delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Hi all,

 

I have bought a new Lenovo laptop model Ideapad 510s 80UV003MIH which came with Windows 10 Home pre loaded. I have upgraded the same to creators update and I am running NVDA 2017.2.

 

I am facing a major speech delay with NVDA. I have updated all drivers and have removed all non essential utilities from the machine. When I install NVDA the installation hangs till I Alt+Tab to another window and then it completes. The sound of the progress bar during installation is also weird.

 

The average speech delay is 1.5 seconds per keystroke and it adds up if I am typing a long sentence. I have tried using eSpeak and SAPPI and various voices but the problem persists.

 

I think it is a driver clash but I cannot figure it out. I will be very grateful to anyone who can help me with this.

 

Cheers

Mohit

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Avast, Avira, AVG or Sophos?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Just for reference, and against comentary to the contrary, I run both avast and sophos home. Never had any problems, though avast does have a habbit of flagging any programs I write that have timing routines in them, so I have to jump through hoops in my code to make them appear not to be actually timing execution length. <sigh>

On 7/12/2017 2:12 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
I use a Windows 8.1 machine, and usually evade all dodgy websites,
particularly ones involving social engineering. Thus, I am in need of
a simple, powerful and accessible anti-virus tool to compliment the
built-in Windows Defender (which I deem insufficient).
To thoroughly limit the scope of this question, because I am aware
that accessible anti-virus pertaining discussions have taken place
endlessly in the past, which of the following four would a general
consensus in the NVDA community recommend - Avast, Avira, AVG or
Sophos? Please note that my personal focus would lie only with the
free versions of the aforesaid programs.
I would truly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Quentin Christensen
 

Does it happen everywhere?  ie, if you open notepad and type, or if you are navigating around the NVDA menu?

Also, being a new machine, could it be downloading Windows updates?  Windows 10 is not particularly friendly about sharing resources when it sees an update it wants to download and that can cause slow downs.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Graham Armfield <graham.armfield@...> wrote:
I too am experiencing this. Coincidentally have just raised another thread on it - so apologies for duplication.




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Re: free youtube down loader

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Yes that's the one.  I just want to thank you very much for doing the audio totorial.


On 7/13/2017 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


if it is the one from off the accessibility central website it is clean i think it is on the nvda tutorials for other programs page. it works well I got the space 1999 shows with it and other stuff.


Gene nz



On 7/14/2017 6:02 AM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I listened to the pod cast on the free youtube down loader. I was wondering if the program installs any malware or add ware. Pleese let me know before I install it.





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Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot, and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original-----

De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?
Here's a possible fix:
1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.
2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.
3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.
4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound
control panel.
On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Hi,
I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I
am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as
well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows
app essentials.
My problem starts right from installation.
Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the
one I created.
Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507
On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:
Hi,
Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode
i.e. add-ons disabled.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield
*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable
Dear All,
A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.
Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very
slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I
tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.
Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very
stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible
to use.
Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas
about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,
conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to
attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the
nuclear option.
Thanks
Graham Armfield


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

David Moore
 

Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot, and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...

 

Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?

 

Rui

 

-----Mensagem Original-----

De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

 

I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.

 

 

 

Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507

 

> On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

> For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?

> Here's a possible fix:

> 1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.

> 2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.

> 3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.

> 4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound

> control panel.

>> On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:

>> 

>> 

>> Hi,

>> I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I

>> am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as

>> well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows

>> app essentials.

>> My problem starts right from installation.

>> 

>> Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the

>> one I created.

>> 

>> Mohit Singla

>> M: +91 9811211507

>> 

>> On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...

>> <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:

>> 

>>> Hi,

>>> 

>>> Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode

>>> i.e. add-ons disabled.

>>> 

>>> Cheers,

>>> 

>>> Joseph

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield

>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM

>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> *Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Dear All,

>>> 

>>> A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.

>>> Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very

>>> slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I

>>> tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.

>>> 

>>> Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very

>>> stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible

>>> to use.

>>> 

>>> Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas

>>> about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,

>>> conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to

>>> attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the

>>> nuclear option.

>>> 

>>> Thanks

>>> Graham Armfield

>>> 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

David Moore
 

Wow, Gene!

I will be looking forward to that. Sounds exciting.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

hi David

I will be adding into the tutorial where to look for the text review commands or is it the other way around and also for object navigation for people who have not use them only where to look in the user manual. That will be done in the next day or so.

In the audio one there are 2 ways of searching one can come up in a list and the other is by the results when tabbing etc.
hopefully they are easy to under stand.

Gene nz

On 7/13/2017 9:24 PM, David Moore wrote:

Thanks a lot, Gene!

I have them. I can’t wait to listen to them to see if there is something that you say that I have not known.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

New Added new page called  How to use the Windows 10 store with the NVDA screen reader (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page). http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

There is both a written and audio tutorial.

 

Regards
Gene NZ

 

 

 

On 7/10/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Recently updated to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/:

New notification from autoplay USB drive, “select what happens with removable drives” message; and
NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places (on the NVDA Audio tutorials page). Please find the link as follows
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Gene NZ

On 6/23/2017 6:13 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi guys

 

 

RECENTLY UPDATED to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

 

Adding a Windows OneCore TTS voice to your PC in Windows 10 http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

 

New: Added new page called How to use the free YouTube Downloader program with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page) http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 6/2/2017 7:50 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi guys

RECENTLY UPDATED to accessibilitycentral.net

Added information on the NVDA expert exam (link to the list of certified experts, and to where you can sit the exam) to all NVDA related pages.


Added link to Switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA tutorial (by Gene Asner) to the Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader page.

Gene NZ

 

On 31/05/2017 2:53 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.