Date   

Weather Plus 4.4 15.07.2017 update available

Adriano Barbieri
 


Hi to every one,
Changes in this version
• Added SSL support; is used only if there is a SSL error certificate verify failed.
Weather Plus it can auto-update, but you can also download it from:
Direct download::
http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus4.4.nvda-addon?download=1
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html
Derek, or who for you, it is not necessary to update the link to this page.
Thanks.
Cheers
Adriano


New to NVDA!!!

Arun Gaalla
 

                Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can it be done. Thanks….

 

Arun


Re: Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi



What i think i will do also is add if a person has this problem to the trouble shooting section on the nvda audio tutorials page for reference for others.


Gene nz



On 7/14/2017 5:35 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:
Thanks guys I have been able to fix it. Tyler's suggestion to disable enhancements worked and now NVDA is extremely snappy and well responding.

Here is what I did:
In control Panel go to sounds and then the Playback devices tab
Open Properties of Playback devices and go to the Enhancements tab.
Under Enhancements Check the box Disable all sound effects
Press Ok and Ok again on the Properties Tab
You will see the effect immediately.

Thanks a lot for suggesting the solution.

Cheers
Mohit



Mohit Singla
M: +91 9811211507

On 14-Jul-2017, at 4:22 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Yes, it seems this today update turned the PC a little faster...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: David Moore
Data: 13 de julho de 2017 23:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



Hi,

I am using latest Creators build of win10 and the latest NVDA snapshot, and my computers are more snappy then ever. I just wanted you to know.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable





That is strange!

I am using the last iteration of Windows Creator, last updated one hour ago,

last Next version of NVDA and a low power PC and I haven't that delay...



Have you deleted your NVDA configurations folder to start from scratch?



Rui



-----Mensagem Original----- 
De: Mohit Singla

Data: 13 de julho de 2017 22:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Assunto: Re: [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable



I have tried using narrator and it works fine and is very responsive. I have

also uninstalled NVDA and run it from a portable copy but the problem

remains.







Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 2:23 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:


For curiosity's sake, does this happen with Narrator?



Here's a possible fix:

1. Search for sound in the start menu and launch the Sound control panel.

2. In the list, find your default playback device and press space.

3. Find the Enhancements tab, and check Disable all enhancements.

4. Press OK to close the properties dialog, and OK to close the Sound

control panel.



On 7/13/2017 1:37 PM, Mohit Singla wrote:





Hi,

I am having the same problem and I have detailed it in another thread. I

am using Microsoft SAPPI 5 and have tried it on espeak and vocalizer as

well. I have tried removing all Addons and also got rid of the windows

app essentials.

My problem starts right from installation.



Thanks in advance and let me know if I should follow this tread or the

one I created.



Mohit Singla

M: +91 9811211507



On 14-Jul-2017, at 1:34 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...

<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>> wrote:



Hi,



Do you have any add-ons installed? If so, restart NVDA in safe mode

i.e. add-ons disabled.



Cheers,



Joseph







*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Graham Armfield

*Sent:* Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:36 PM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:* [nvda] Win 10 Creators update makes NVDA almost unusable







Dear All,



A couple of weeks ago my laptop updated to Win 10 Creators update.

Since then I've noticed that NVDA 2017.2 seems to have become very

slow to respond to all keystrokes - approx 1 second delay each time. I

tried reinstalling NVDA but that didn't seem to help.



Additionally after another Windows update this week, it's become very

stuttery and the delay has got much worse. It's now almost impossible

to use.



Has anyone else experienced this? And/or does anyone have any ideas

about where to start to try to rectify the situation? Drivers,

conflicting software, etc? I know that one approach would be to

attempt to roll back to before Creators but that feels like the

nuclear option.



Thanks

Graham Armfield































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Re: Unlock Screen Event?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi



I was lazy and just went into the power settings and set my stuff to never.


I do not have the problem as of it locking windows now unless i force it.


Gene nz



On 7/14/2017 11:19 PM, claude.beazley@... wrote:
I want to write a  plugin for NVDA which is called when the user unlocks his screen and gets back to his desktop.  Is there an event for this and if so what is it called.

Also is there a complete list of events which can be handled be a global plugin.?

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Re: CTF-loader???? what is that?

Antony Stone
 

CTF Loader is a Microsoft application for managing alternative languages in MS
Office.

However, in order to answer your question, we'd need to know what the message/
notice is - what does it say?


Antony.

On Friday 14 July 2017 at 22:24:41, Alexander Masic wrote:

Hi!

After e few days ago, I always get an message/notice about something
call ctf-loader. and it is very anoying iritating, Have some one faced
this? and have solotion how i can avoid this?

I would be very thankfull for advice.


alexander
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CTF-loader???? what is that?

Alexander Masic
 

Hi!

After e few days ago, I always get an message/notice about something call ctf-loader. and it is very anoying iritating, Have some one faced this? and have solotion how i can avoid this?

I would be very thankfull for advice.


alexander


Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of bizarre.
 
I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0 Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
 
I tried in Chrome to go to:
 
 
I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
 
Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
 
First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it actually opened the link for downloads.
 
When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
 
I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and normally the experience is incredible!
 
The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
 
Any ideas?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 


Re: knfb and NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I fully agree. KNFBReader is the best and fastest on a smartphone, at least for me on my iPhone. I'm also using finereader on my PC, but I'm using an older version and it works fine with Win10, but is only 30$ on Amazon. No need to pay 100 bucks for the most recent version.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Freitag, 14. Juli 2017 19:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA

I have the iOS version also. My comments about it would be exactly the same as what I said about the Windows app. Character recognition is good and fast, but it is not usable for material where layout is important.
For a quick and dirty it is fine or if layout is not important. I would not recommend it for scanning books that you want to keep. I use Abbyy FineReader on my desktop for that.

I think the app is way over-priced at its full price of around $100. I only bought it at its much reduced price and knowing what I know now, I certainly would not pay more than that. If you have $100 to spend, get FineReader; it does a far superior job for the same money and is perfectly accessible.

On the Smartphone KNFB is probably the best option, but I think it, too, is over-priced given its limitations.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/07/14 5:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
How does it match to the same software on a smart phone. I have lots
of friends that tell me its wonderful.
Maybe its a problem when using a scanner instead of a camera?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA


Hello

I have KNFB which I use with a flatbed HP scanner.

Character recognition is good and fast, but one thing about the app
that really disappointed me, is that it does not retain the layout of
the text you scan; It simply dumps everything in one continuous
paragraph. So, if you want it to scan books that you would like to
keep, or if the layout is important, then I think you will waste your
money. I can only hope that this is an area that will receive some
attention in a future release. In its present form it is really only
good for a quick and dirty.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/12 12:14 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi

I would buy knfb, but what is a good document camera to use with
knfb reader? scanners are big and bulky and a camera would be faster
for scanning books and stuff. I also have knfb on my android phone.

and does it work good with NVDA?






Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Sakina
 

Dear Gene,

Words can not thank you enough for all you do for us.

I appreciate these tutorials  as they are so simply step by step  and professionally explained.

Thank you gene so much again.

With best wishes always

Sakina

 

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

Recently updated to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/:

New notification from autoplay USB drive, “select what happens with removable drives” message; and
NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places (on the NVDA Audio tutorials page). Please find the link as follows
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

Gene NZ

On 6/23/2017 6:13 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi guys

 

 

RECENTLY UPDATED to Accessibilitycentral.net

 

 

Adding a Windows OneCore TTS voice to your PC in Windows 10 http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

 

New: Added new page called How to use the free YouTube Downloader program with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page) http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 6/2/2017 7:50 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi guys

RECENTLY UPDATED to accessibilitycentral.net

Added information on the NVDA expert exam (link to the list of certified experts, and to where you can sit the exam) to all NVDA related pages.


Added link to Switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA tutorial (by Gene Asner) to the Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader page.

Gene NZ

 

On 31/05/2017 2:53 AM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hello all

 

Thank you for compiling these and especially for highlighting the transition from another screen reader tutorials. 

 

As one of those longtime window-eyes users having to switch, I definitely have more than jitters and appreciate the inclusion of window-eyes references in some of these tutorials. 

 

Are there any other window-eyes related posts or threads I should know about?

 

Thank you again for this!

Sally 

 

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website). It is a blindness related website where I also post both
written and audio tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other
blindness related material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net Facebook page.

Recently updated:  How to show or hide columns in your Mozilla
Thunderbird email header (changes made)
http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html


New: Added new page called Migrating to NVDA from another screen reader
for both a desktop and laptop user (new link added to all NVDA related
pages
http://accessibilitycentral.net/Migrating%20from%20other%20screen%20readers%20to%20the%20NVDA%20screen%20reader.html).


I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ

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Re: NVDA and Win 10 Creators version

 

Hi,

Is Tablet Mode turned on? To find out, press Windows+A to open Action Center, tab to quick actions list, and see if Tablet Mode is toggled on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win 10 Creators version

 

Hi,

 

I am running NVDA 2017.2 and I believe Win 10 Creators version.  Yep, it installed without asking me if I wanted it or not. ;-))

 

Now when I am using many different software packages it always jumps back to the start menu if I do things like closing an email, or making some choices in other programs.  It will do this if I delete a file sometimes too.

 

Is anyone else having this experience?  Is it something to do with Win 10 Creators or is it something to do with NVDA?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver


NVDA and Win 10 Creators version

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I am running NVDA 2017.2 and I believe Win 10 Creators version.  Yep, it installed without asking me if I wanted it or not. ;-))


Now when I am using many different software packages it always jumps back to the start menu if I do things like closing an email, or making some choices in other programs.  It will do this if I delete a file sometimes too.


Is anyone else having this experience?  Is it something to do with Win 10 Creators or is it something to do with NVDA?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


NVDA and Windows 10

davisjustin002@...
 

Hello,
I am using NVDA 2017.2 with Firefox. It worked fine, but after a Windows update it woill only say "web page title. Firefox row 1 column 2." I've been doing some research on how to resolve the issue, but nothing has worked. I've tried reinstalling NVDA, and uninstalling the Windows updates that I thought caused the issue. How can I fix this?
Thanks,
Justin.


Re: Windows Aps

Sakina
 

David, Yes please thank you very much. I am greedy and would like to learn as much as I can.

Every little helps me always and will look out for them.

Thank you again and with all good wishes to all

Sakina

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows Aps

 

Yes,

I am using the win10 mail app great with NVDA. I use it all the time, along with the calendar and people apps. Also, the Skype app works great with NVDA. The news app works 90 percent with NVDA, also, the One Note app works pretty well with NVDA. I use the Weather app with NVDA a lot, and Store of course. The win10 Store works very well with NVDA. I will do tutorials on some of these apps if you all want.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows Aps

 

All this talk about NVDA Aps.  Are there any Windows 10 Aps that work

well with NVDA?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 


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Re: knfb and NVDA

Christo de Klerk
 

I have the iOS version also. My comments about it would be exactly the same as what I said about the Windows app. Character recognition is good and fast, but it is not usable for material where layout is important. For a quick and dirty it is fine or if layout is not important. I would not recommend it for scanning books that you want to keep. I use Abbyy FineReader on my desktop for that.

I think the app is way over-priced at its full price of around $100. I only bought it at its much reduced price and knowing what I know now, I certainly would not pay more than that. If you have $100 to spend, get FineReader; it does a far superior job for the same money and is perfectly accessible.

On the Smartphone KNFB is probably the best option, but I think it, too, is over-priced given its limitations.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/14 5:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
How does it match to the same software on a smart phone. I have lots of friends that tell me its wonderful.
Maybe its a problem when using a scanner instead of a camera?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA


Hello

I have KNFB which I use with a flatbed HP scanner.

Character recognition is good and fast, but one thing about the app that really disappointed me, is that it does not retain the layout of the text you scan; It simply dumps everything in one continuous paragraph. So, if you want it to scan books that you would like to keep, or if the layout is important, then I think you will waste your money. I can only hope that this is an area that will receive some attention in a future release. In its present form it is really only good for a quick and dirty.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/12 12:14 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi

I would buy knfb, but what is a good document camera to use with knfb reader? scanners are big and bulky and a camera would be faster for scanning books and stuff. I also have knfb on my android phone.

and does it work good with NVDA?





Re: Microsoft Store not accessible for KNFB purchase

Giles Turnbull
 

thanks Gene,

I am familiar with object navigation and that was how I was trying to access the list, using NVDA + num pad 4 and 6 to move up and down it.

I gave up and called in sighted assistance this afternoon, and finally figured out why I was having trouble with the month a and year lists .... there were no items in those lists.

What I hadn't realised was that in the address fields it thought that my Microsoft region was Turkmenistan! Presumably they don't use credit cards in Turkmenistan! When I changed my region in my Windows settings and re-visited the store page, I did not have to enter any details other than choosing the buy now button. I assumed it was pulling in the card info I entered into my Microsoft account yesterday, but no — it automatically used my PayPal info which I'd used to purchase MS Office 2016.

So thanks Gene and all other respondents on this question — I now have KNFB Reader installed and am playing around with OCRing of some PDF documents :)

Giles


Re: knfb and NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

How does it match to the same software on a smart phone. I have lots of friends that tell me its wonderful.
Maybe its a problem when using a scanner instead of a camera?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA


Hello

I have KNFB which I use with a flatbed HP scanner.

Character recognition is good and fast, but one thing about the app that really disappointed me, is that it does not retain the layout of the text you scan; It simply dumps everything in one continuous paragraph. So, if you want it to scan books that you would like to keep, or if the layout is important, then I think you will waste your money. I can only hope that this is an area that will receive some attention in a future release. In its present form it is really only good for a quick and dirty.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/12 12:14 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi

I would buy knfb, but what is a good document camera to use with knfb reader? scanners are big and bulky and a camera would be faster for scanning books and stuff. I also have knfb on my android phone.

and does it work good with NVDA?



Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I would always suggest a small Beringer(spelled wrong I know( sound box that has phono connections. Then when its plugged into the usb it just uses the new sound system, not the patched heap of megabass stuff in the machine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


Well laptop manufacturers put in enhancements to make the sound better than it actually is.

Lets face it, if you want to have a laptop to an ultrabook, compromises need to be made.

Laptop sound is entire crap!

But then would you want to carry round a pair of desktop speakers with your or in your computer?

Back in win 98 and up to xp and earlier there was a time where laptops were large bulky heavy things and yes they actually had good speakers full sized ones and yes they sounded good but even then.

My next system will be since I spend a lot of my time on a desk and not all day traveling the wild roads a gaming unit so a laptop but half way towards a pc.

So these can afford bigger and heavier hardware like speakers.

To combat these laptop manufacturers try to put enhancements on top of well their sound to make it cool.

This serves to take away the worst bits like the speaker peaks and so on and try to make them cool sounding.

And for 99.9% of users it kind of works ok.

Speech though is not music or video, lets face it your average speech synth, ie espeak is full of peaks.

The reason we are getting a hard time is enhancements are designed for sound, and music, not speech especially not screen reader or synthetic speech.

To be honest its almost impossible to have effects at all.

On my soundblaster play creative usb device even without effects speech can be a bit short at times and choppy.

With effects the speech becomes quite crappy and disturbing yet plug in a good set of speakers and put on your favourite music or concert dvd and its all gone.

Microphone effects though if you have them especially echo cancilation, noise reduction and other filters are actually good as they get rid of background noise and actually sound good.

Laptop manufacturers can use depending on what it is some really good microphones.

eg this old toshiba while using a bog standard realtech hd audio unit, has andriea electronics mics in it.

These are used by military and are if not the best one of the good units for speech recognition.

And while not speech recognition material as such they work for skype, and some voice work I do they are clean etc.

Then again I can turn off effects which makes them totally evil and nasty at close range but quite good for far ranged recording as long as you have speakers in the laptop speaker port.





On 14/07/2017 8:40 p.m., Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi all.
One of my friends had this problem a few months ago on a lenovo laptop.
The problem with the enhancements tab is the fact that on some laptops it
doesn't appear.
This was the case with my friend's laptop so eventually I think he had to
go back to the previous update if I understood right.
I don't know if there is another way to disable enhancements from the
command prompt or with another method.
But I agree when the option is there it works.
Nikos

On 14 July 2017 at 11:18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I don't know if you've gotten to the part of the thread where turning off
enhancements was recommended. Considering the spotty record of the
disability service, that they cause new problems for many people they help
whether they solve the original problem or not and they recommend and do
things that are not going to solve the problem and may cause completely
unnecessary problems such as uninstalling Office, which should not be done
because it breaks accessibility working properly in NVDA, it is a much
better idea, unless not possible, to ask about a problem here first. The
list should not be the last resort. You often get better help on good
lists than from places like the disability service or computer shops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Graham Armfield <graham.armfield@coolfields.co.uk>
*Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 3:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried
Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad 510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician
recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to not
be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point.
Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my setup
that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me it
didn't make any difference.




Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

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Having said that however, a friend got a really annoying issue on a screenreader solved by a remote session from PC World. It was not nvda though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


I don't know if you've gotten to the part of the thread where turning off enhancements was recommended. Considering the spotty record of the disability service, that they cause new problems for many people they help whether they solve the original problem or not and they recommend and do things that are not going to solve the problem and may cause completely unnecessary problems such as uninstalling Office, which should not be done because it breaks accessibility working properly in NVDA, it is a much better idea, unless not possible, to ask about a problem here first. The list should not be the last resort. You often get better help on good lists than from places like the disability service or computer shops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Graham Armfield
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad 510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to not be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point. Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my setup that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me it didn't make any difference.


Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

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I assume you ran up the enhanced audio turn off suggestions mentioned earlier. Its hard for those of us who have not had this issue with machines to say exactly why some have.
I don't have my own windows 10 machine now and nobody I know has had the issue, so something odd has to be going on.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Armfield" <graham.armfield@coolfields.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad 510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to not be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point. Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my setup that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me it didn't make any difference.


Unlock Screen Event?

claude.beazley@...
 

I want to write a  plugin for NVDA which is called when the user unlocks his screen and gets back to his desktop.  Is there an event for this and if so what is it called.

Also is there a complete list of events which can be handled be a global plugin.?