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Re: knfb and NVDA

 

Standard is fine there are a few enterprise features I had to kill however.

On 16/07/2017 6:43 a.m., Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:
I use ABBYY FineReader 12 Pro at work, and I can confirm that it can be used effectively with a screen reader. It also recognizes the structure of a document, including headings, lists and footnotes.

The latest version is FineReader 14. If anyone has had experience with it under NVDA or another screen reader, I would be interested in a report of your findings. So far as I am aware, the main alternative is OmniPage, now owned by Nuance. I don't know how accessible it is, so I can't comment here except to note it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA

I have the iOS version also. My comments about it would be exactly the same as what I said about the Windows app. Character recognition is good and fast, but it is not usable for material where layout is important.
For a quick and dirty it is fine or if layout is not important. I would not recommend it for scanning books that you want to keep. I use Abbyy FineReader on my desktop for that.

I think the app is way over-priced at its full price of around $100. I only bought it at its much reduced price and knowing what I know now, I certainly would not pay more than that. If you have $100 to spend, get FineReader; it does a far superior job for the same money and is perfectly accessible.

On the Smartphone KNFB is probably the best option, but I think it, too, is over-priced given its limitations.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/07/14 5:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
How does it match to the same software on a smart phone. I have lots
of friends that tell me its wonderful.
Maybe its a problem when using a scanner instead of a camera?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christo de Klerk"
<christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA


Hello

I have KNFB which I use with a flatbed HP scanner.

Character recognition is good and fast, but one thing about the app
that really disappointed me, is that it does not retain the layout of
the text you scan; It simply dumps everything in one continuous
paragraph. So, if you want it to scan books that you would like to
keep, or if the layout is important, then I think you will waste your
money. I can only hope that this is an area that will receive some
attention in a future release. In its present form it is really only
good for a quick and dirty.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/12 12:14 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi

I would buy knfb, but what is a good document camera to use with
knfb reader? scanners are big and bulky and a camera would be faster
for scanning books and stuff. I also have knfb on my android phone.

and does it work good with NVDA?









Re: With very very very deep sadness!

Joshua Hendrickson
 

Was this the Pat Ferguson who had the Ferguson Technology company?

On 7/15/17, Robin Frost <robini71@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Thank you for letting us know. She was always very kind whenever I had
occasion to chat with her; and she was indeed “loving.”
I wish her family and those who loved her comfort and strength; and I shall
always remember her fondly knowing I’ll see her again.
Robin


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] With very very very deep sadness!

Folks,

This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.

Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this
message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you
who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know
exactly who I am talking about.

Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I
report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind
community who was on this list for a short time.

Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of
Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.

A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.

Basically, here's what I know.

Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.

She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad
abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing
normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being
agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the
hospital in South Dakota.

I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have
the spelling wrong on that.)

Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first
figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.

Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that,
her kidnies were both failing.

Honestly, we're not totally sure why.

They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help
with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.

At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work,
about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had
cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had
liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.

In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and
didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was
traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless
his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated
beyond human belief!

Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen,
called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not
surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but
apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily
Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd
put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed
at about 11PM last night central time.

She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the
blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't
love her to death, and vice versa.

She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!

I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is
not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In
everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that
she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.

May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!

Chris.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson


Re: With very very very deep sadness!

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
Thank you for letting us know. She was always very kind whenever I had occasion to chat with her; and she was indeed “loving.”
I wish her family and those who loved her comfort and strength; and I shall always remember her fondly knowing I’ll see her again.
Robin
 
 

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] With very very very deep sadness!
 
Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


Re: With very very very deep sadness!

 

Hi,

My deepest condolence to the passing of mrs pat furgeson,

I pray that her moving on will be a smooth journey

She will be missed dearly
Amen,

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On Jul 16, 2017, at 2:41 AM, Lawrence Stoler <lstoler99@...> wrote:

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Hi Chris,


This is very sad.  I hope when she passed, it was a peaceful death.


As you said, she will be missed.


Larry in CT.



On 7/15/2017 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


Re: With very very very deep sadness!

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Yeah, me too, Lawrence. Anyway, I don't wanna turn this into a long drawn out thread that takes away from the list topic, but I definitely thought you all should know.
 
Any of you all are absolutely welcome to write me at:
 
 
or call me at the below number. I'll be here if anyone needs to talk.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575X401

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] With very very very deep sadness!

Hi Chris,


This is very sad.  I hope when she passed, it was a peaceful death.


As you said, she will be missed.


Larry in CT.



On 7/15/2017 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


Re: knfb and NVDA

Jason White
 

I use ABBYY FineReader 12 Pro at work, and I can confirm that it can be used effectively with a screen reader. It also recognizes the structure of a document, including headings, lists and footnotes.

The latest version is FineReader 14. If anyone has had experience with it under NVDA or another screen reader, I would be interested in a report of your findings. So far as I am aware, the main alternative is OmniPage, now owned by Nuance. I don't know how accessible it is, so I can't comment here except to note it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA

I have the iOS version also. My comments about it would be exactly the same as what I said about the Windows app. Character recognition is good and fast, but it is not usable for material where layout is important.
For a quick and dirty it is fine or if layout is not important. I would not recommend it for scanning books that you want to keep. I use Abbyy FineReader on my desktop for that.

I think the app is way over-priced at its full price of around $100. I only bought it at its much reduced price and knowing what I know now, I certainly would not pay more than that. If you have $100 to spend, get FineReader; it does a far superior job for the same money and is perfectly accessible.

On the Smartphone KNFB is probably the best option, but I think it, too, is over-priced given its limitations.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/07/14 5:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
How does it match to the same software on a smart phone. I have lots
of friends that tell me its wonderful.
Maybe its a problem when using a scanner instead of a camera?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christo de Klerk"
<christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] knfb and NVDA


Hello

I have KNFB which I use with a flatbed HP scanner.

Character recognition is good and fast, but one thing about the app
that really disappointed me, is that it does not retain the layout of
the text you scan; It simply dumps everything in one continuous
paragraph. So, if you want it to scan books that you would like to
keep, or if the layout is important, then I think you will waste your
money. I can only hope that this is an area that will receive some
attention in a future release. In its present form it is really only
good for a quick and dirty.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/07/12 12:14 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
hi

I would buy knfb, but what is a good document camera to use with
knfb reader? scanners are big and bulky and a camera would be faster
for scanning books and stuff. I also have knfb on my android phone.

and does it work good with NVDA?






Re: With very very very deep sadness!

Lawrence Stoler
 

Hi Chris,


This is very sad.  I hope when she passed, it was a peaceful death.


As you said, she will be missed.


Larry in CT.



On 7/15/2017 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


Re: With very very very deep sadness!

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Chris,


This is certainly sad news.  I had helped pat out of lots of different computer situations over the years and conversed with her on on messenger many times. I shall miss her deeply, but our sister is home now, mission accomplished, no longer suffering, and may she rest in peace. R I P Pat.


Tony


On 7/15/2017 2:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


With very very very deep sadness!

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Folks,
 
This is one of the most difficult e-mails I've had to write to the list.
 
Before I say anything, no, you're not dreaming that you're reading this message. It's actually real, and true, and 100% verified. For those of you who, on the phone, go up on the Conversation Station, you will probably know exactly who I am talking about.
 
Folks, it is with a heavy heart, and with very very deep sadness that I report the death of another one of our dearly beloved friends in the blind community who was on this list for a short time.
 
Mrs. Pat Ferguson. Yes, you heard correctly. The lady who is the wife of Vernon Ferguson, the maker of the Scanacan barcode reader.
 
A lot of you probably do not know about this, as it happened so quick.
 
Basically, here's what I know.
 
Pat had gone in for a colonoscopy, and did just fine.
 
She then, about a week or two later started complaining of really bad abdominal pain. She thought she could work it off, so stayed at home doing normal things. Well, eventually it got worse, to the point of being agonizingly escrutiating. Finally, Vernon, her husband, took her in to the hospital in South Dakota.
 
I want to say Seux Falls. They're initially from Dismette, (Sorry if I have the spelling wrong on that.)
 
Anyway, she kept getting worse and worse, and the doctors couldn't at first figure out what was wrong. She was bleeding terribly, etc.
 
Finally, they found out she had lesions on her liver, and on top of that, her kidnies were both failing.
 
Honestly, we're not totally sure why.
 
They tried to treat things by putting her in a pyperberic chamber to help with giving her oxygen to draw out the supposed infection.
 
At the time they didn't realize the underlying issue. Once this didn't work, about 3 days ago, they did more tests and determined she actually had cancer, which honestly a lot of us figured all along. Turns out, she had liver cancer, which then had also spread to her pelvis.
 
In the last day or so, she totally clambed up when this news was given, and didn't talk since. We don't totally know if she was unconcious, or just was traumatized from the news. Vernon isn't really talking much right now, bless his heart, so it's kind of hard to say. The poor guy's gotta! be devistated beyond human belief!
 
Anyway, my friend Ronald Glaser who also lives in South Dakota, in Aberdeen, called this morning to check up on Pat. He actually got Vernon, not surprisingly. Vernon almost couldn't talk he was so shaken up, but apparently he along with another one of Pat's close friends, Cecily Ballenger, wanted to figure out how Pat was doing, and what Hospice they'd put her in. That's when Vernon says there was no need. Apparently she passed at about 11PM last night central time.
 
She will be forever more missed! She was such a huge huge contributer to the blind community, and honestly I cannot think of a single person that didn't love her to death, and vice versa.
 
She thought all of you were so, in her words, loving!
 
I know one thing! I don't doubt where she is right now, and I know she is not sufferring any longer. Folks, she loved Christ with all of her heart! In everything she said, and did, it was very very evident! I have no doubt that she's now up in heaven rejoycing with the angels.
 
May her memory live on forever and ever and ever and ever more. Amen!
 
Chris.


Re: Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

Mohit Singla
 

Hi all,

As I had shared in the other thread I have been able to fix the
problem. It was solved by turning enhancements off in sound settings.

Here is how:
Go to sounds in control panel
Under the Playback tab scroll down to the default speaker and hit
spacebar or go into its properties
Under the Enhancements tab check the box Disable all sound effects
Hit Ok in properties menu and Ok again in the Sound Menu.

This should resolve the problem.

Thanks to all the people who helped with the problem.

Cheers
Mohit

On 7/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
If its just an applet could it be possible to grab it on one machine and
shove it onto another one?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io"
<nikosdemetriou=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2


Hi all.
One of my friends had this problem a few months ago on a lenovo laptop.
The problem with the enhancements tab is the fact that on some laptops it
doesn't appear.
This was the case with my friend's laptop so eventually I think he had to
go back to the previous update if I understood right.
I don't know if there is another way to disable enhancements from the
command prompt or with another method.
But I agree when the option is there it works.
Nikos

On 14 July 2017 at 11:18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I don't know if you've gotten to the part of the thread where turning
off
enhancements was recommended. Considering the spotty record of the
disability service, that they cause new problems for many people they
help
whether they solve the original problem or not and they recommend and do
things that are not going to solve the problem and may cause completely
unnecessary problems such as uninstalling Office, which should not be
done
because it breaks accessibility working properly in NVDA, it is a much
better idea, unless not possible, to ask about a problem here first.
The
list should not be the last resort. You often get better help on good
lists than from places like the disability service or computer shops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Graham Armfield <graham.armfield@coolfields.co.uk>
*Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2017 3:10 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Speech delay in NVDA 2017.2

For me it just seems to be NVDA when used with anything. I've not tried
Narrator, but JAWS is fine.

And coincidentally I am also running it on a Lenovo Ideapad 510.

Last evening I had a Microsoft support session and the technician
recommended returning to Win 10 Anniversary edition. That turned out to
not
be as easy as it could have been as I didn't have a restore point.
Contemplating a full on reload of Win10, but concerned how much of my
setup
that will trash.

You could try running the compatibility troubleshooter on NVDA. For me
it
didn't make any difference.






Re: New to NVDA!!!

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't mind hearing tick and bang either. I'd rather hear tick and bang than words with four syllables for more efficient reading. That's just my own personal preference.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Bowers
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

Personally, I'd rather hear tick and bang than listen to four syllables when apostrophe or exclamation are spoken.
We're all different, and I'm not saying I'm right.

Just Gary's opinion!

Peter wrote, in part:
I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

You should use the default dictionary because if you use the voice dictionary, if you should switch voices, it will go back to the way it was. I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!


I think it's done in the speech dictionary.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arun Gaalla
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can it be done. Thanks….



Arun


Re: New to NVDA!!!

Joshua Hendrickson
 

The bang and tick never bothered me at all. I really do enjoy using NVDA.

On 7/15/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
You shouldn’t use any dictionary. The Punctuation and Symbol Pronunciation
dialog is where you make the change.



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter
Beasley
Sent: 15 July 2017 11:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



You should use the default dictionary because if you use the voice
dictionary, if you should switch voices, it will go back to the way it was.
I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.



From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:45 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



I think it's done in the speech dictionary.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arun
Gaalla
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and
also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can
it be done. Thanks….



Arun



--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson


Re: New to NVDA!!!

Chris Mullins
 

You shouldn’t use any dictionary. The Punctuation and Symbol Pronunciation dialog is where you make the change.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: 15 July 2017 11:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

 

You should use the default dictionary because if you use the voice dictionary, if you should switch voices, it will go back to the way it was. I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

 

Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

 

I think it's done in the speech dictionary.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arun Gaalla
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

 

                Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can it be done. Thanks….

 

Arun


Re: New to NVDA!!!

Monte Single
 

I agree with Gary in the 2 instances he mentioned.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Bowers
Sent: July-15-17 6:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

Personally, I'd rather hear tick and bang than listen to four syllables when apostrophe or exclamation are spoken.
We're all different, and I'm not saying I'm right.

Just Gary's opinion!

Peter wrote, in part:
I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

You should use the default dictionary because if you use the voice dictionary, if you should switch voices, it will go back to the way it was. I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!


I think it's done in the speech dictionary.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arun Gaalla
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can it be done. Thanks….



Arun


Re: New to NVDA!!!

Gary Bowers
 

Personally, I'd rather hear tick and bang than listen to four syllables when apostrophe or exclamation are spoken.
We're all different, and I'm not saying I'm right.

Just Gary's opinion!

Peter wrote, in part:
I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 5:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!

You should use the default dictionary because if you use the voice dictionary, if you should switch voices, it will go back to the way it was. I don’t know why they say tick and bang either.

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!


I think it's done in the speech dictionary.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arun Gaalla
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New to NVDA!!!



Hey guys NVDA announces the exclamation point as bang and also it announces an apostrophe as a tick. Can this be changed and how can it be done. Thanks….



Arun


Re: Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Gene, et al:
 
Thank you for the clarification of the domain. I've editted it in my chrome bookmarks. I'm sorry for the confusion.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Were developers, and users both aware of this?

If you go to the com address and look at the address in the address bar, it is the org address.  This is another name NVDA has reserved that goes to the same site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Were developers, and users both aware of this?

is this a new website for nvda?
i just use www.nvaccess.org
but not
www.nvaccess.com

On 7/15/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Interesting,
>
> I must admit, I hadn't tried that, but you are right, it doesn't work very
> well does it!  I can tell you for now that it seems to work quite well in
> Firefox.  We are working on a new website, so I can't guarantee we'll fix
> the old site, but the new site should be much better.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
> clgilland07@...> wrote:
>
>> So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type
>> device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of
>> bizarre.
>>
>> I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0
>> Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
>>
>> I tried in Chrome to go to:
>>
>> http://www.nvaccess.com
>>
>> I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was
>> trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
>>
>> Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
>>
>> First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it
>> actually opened the link for downloads.
>>
>> When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing
>> happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
>>
>> I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website
>> which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV
>> Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know
>> it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and
>> normally the experience is incredible!
>>
>> The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>
>> http://www.gshministry.org
>> (980) 500-9575
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Gene
 

If you go to the com address and look at the address in the address bar, it is the org address.  This is another name NVDA has reserved that goes to the same site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Were developers, and users both aware of this?

is this a new website for nvda?
i just use www.nvaccess.org
but not
www.nvaccess.com

On 7/15/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Interesting,
>
> I must admit, I hadn't tried that, but you are right, it doesn't work very
> well does it!  I can tell you for now that it seems to work quite well in
> Firefox.  We are working on a new website, so I can't guarantee we'll fix
> the old site, but the new site should be much better.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
> clgilland07@...> wrote:
>
>> So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type
>> device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of
>> bizarre.
>>
>> I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0
>> Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
>>
>> I tried in Chrome to go to:
>>
>> http://www.nvaccess.com
>>
>> I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was
>> trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
>>
>> Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
>>
>> First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it
>> actually opened the link for downloads.
>>
>> When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing
>> happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
>>
>> I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website
>> which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV
>> Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know
>> it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and
>> normally the experience is incredible!
>>
>> The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>
>> http://www.gshministry.org
>> (980) 500-9575
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Quentin Christensen
 

www.nvaccess.org is the usual website, but we also own www.nvaccess.com and it points to the .org site.  There is a new website in the works, but nothing is up yet.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 9:33 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
is this a new website for nvda?
i just use www.nvaccess.org
but not
www.nvaccess.com

On 7/15/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Interesting,
>
> I must admit, I hadn't tried that, but you are right, it doesn't work very
> well does it!  I can tell you for now that it seems to work quite well in
> Firefox.  We are working on a new website, so I can't guarantee we'll fix
> the old site, but the new site should be much better.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
> clgilland07@...> wrote:
>
>> So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type
>> device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of
>> bizarre.
>>
>> I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0
>> Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
>>
>> I tried in Chrome to go to:
>>
>> http://www.nvaccess.com
>>
>> I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was
>> trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
>>
>> Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
>>
>> First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it
>> actually opened the link for downloads.
>>
>> When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing
>> happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
>>
>> I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website
>> which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV
>> Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know
>> it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and
>> normally the experience is incredible!
>>
>> The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>>
>> http://www.gshministry.org
>> (980) 500-9575
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Huh! Yeah. Interesting. I wonder what on earth in the html code busted it. LOL!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Interesting,

I must admit, I hadn't tried that, but you are right, it doesn't work very well does it!  I can tell you for now that it seems to work quite well in Firefox.  We are working on a new website, so I can't guarantee we'll fix the old site, but the new site should be much better.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of bizarre.
 
I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0 Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
 
I tried in Chrome to go to:
 
 
I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
 
Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
 
First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it actually opened the link for downloads.
 
When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
 
I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and normally the experience is incredible!
 
The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
 
Any ideas?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Were developers, and users both aware of this?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


No, I had the URL incorrect. But, it apparently does redirect in the long run.
 
Still though, my initial concern proves valid even though.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Were developers, and users both aware of this?

is this a new website for nvda?
i just use www.nvaccess.org
but not
www.nvaccess.com

On 7/15/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Interesting,
>
> I must admit, I hadn't tried that, but you are right, it doesn't work very
> well does it!  I can tell you for now that it seems to work quite well in
> Firefox.  We are working on a new website, so I can't guarantee we'll fix
> the old site, but the new site should be much better.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
> clgilland07@...> wrote:
>
>> So... normally, I'd not really have a need to go here with this type
>> device, but I still think it's worth mentioning, as this is kind of
>> bizarre.
>>
>> I'm using Talkback 5.2 non beta build on a Galaxy S8 Plus, Android 7.0
>> Nougat. I know this isn't an Android list. Here me out on this.
>>
>> I tried in Chrome to go to:
>>
>> http://www.nvaccess.com
>>
>> I was basically using this, as it's a familiar enough website, and was
>> trying to show my friend how well web browsing works with Talkback.
>>
>> Well, this was an epic failiar if ever their be one!
>>
>> First, when I double tapped on the link that says About: collapsed, it
>> actually opened the link for downloads.
>>
>> When I tried double tapping the link for services, absolutely nothing
>> happened. Yes, I tried both with touch exploration, and also by flicking.
>>
>> I wonder if there is something wrong with the html coding on the website
>> which isn't allowing Talkback to access those links correctly on the NV
>> Access page. Normally, web browsing isn't near this unreliable, so I know
>> it's not Talkback, as I browse all the freaking time from my phone, and
>> normally the experience is incredible!
>>
>> The website works fine, by the way with Safari on iOS.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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