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Re: Problem with reading pdf

 

hi.
if you want to only read pdf files that adobe can read them, please
read them with balabolka!
it at least no crashes for me.
but i tested many versions of adobe reader and it crashed in my pdf
documents even with 123 pages!
so, i completely uninstalled it and said goodbye to you for always!

On 4/9/16, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Yes, I do use Omnipage or Fine reader as well.
But I though it is strange that why the text can be read on ipad but not
on my windows.
If the text is to be extracted through OCR, it is definitely that may
have little mistake when compareing with the original copy. Ihope if the
text can be read on my windows, then I can copy them directly.



Clare Page 於 8/4/2016 17:33 寫道:
Hi!
I've been sent plenty of .pdf files where NVDA says the file is either
blank or needs OCR. This isn't a fault of the .pdf reader, such a message
is usually caused by the fact that the contents of the .pdf are an image
rather than text. Interesting that such a file showed up as text readable
by Voiceover on an iPad: I can't explain that!
However, as regards a solution to the problem of such blank-looking .pdf
files on Windows, I use Omnipage, the OCR program I have here, to make the
text in such files accessible, even though this usually means having two
copies of the file, because the text version is in another format, usually
Word in my case.
I'm not familiar with other OCR programs on Windows, but I would guess
that at least some of them have a similar function, where image files in
.pdf containing text can be converted to formats like .rtf or .doc which
are more accessible.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William [mailto:cwwong.pro@...]
Sent: vendredi 8 avril 2016 09:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with reading pdf

I have try both pdf reader dc and Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro both failed


Aravind R 於 8/4/2016 15:19 寫道:
I TOO HAD SAME PROBLEM WITH ADOBE READER DC SO I DOWNGRADED IT.
SO FRIENDS GUIDE US HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM

On 4/8/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
if you are shure that your pdf books is not Ocr and its usual
document which is changed to document, you can also try balabolka.
its free and can read many document formats.
you can download it from its original website.

www. cross-plus-a.com

thanks for asking and god bless you.

On 4/8/16, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hi,
I got a pdf file, when I open with Adobe pdf reader DC on my windows
7, it said it is blank or require OCR.
However, when I send the pdf to my Ipad via dropbox and ope the pdf
with dropbox, the screen reader there can read all those text
content, as if it is totally accessible.
I am not sure how to fix this issue. Cause I need to extract some of
the information from the pdf.....
Do I open it with alternative pdf reader? any recommendations? or
any other advice?
thanks
William
n





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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins
them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good
things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from
them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for]
those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the
light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the
successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org










--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Problem with reading pdf

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Yes, I do use Omnipage or Fine reader as well.
But I though it is strange that why the text can be read on ipad but not on my windows.
If the text is to be extracted through OCR, it is definitely that may have little mistake when compareing with the original copy. Ihope if the text can be read on my windows, then I can copy them directly.



Clare Page 於 8/4/2016 17:33 寫道:

Hi!
I've been sent plenty of .pdf files where NVDA says the file is either blank or needs OCR. This isn't a fault of the .pdf reader, such a message is usually caused by the fact that the contents of the .pdf are an image rather than text. Interesting that such a file showed up as text readable by Voiceover on an iPad: I can't explain that!
However, as regards a solution to the problem of such blank-looking .pdf files on Windows, I use Omnipage, the OCR program I have here, to make the text in such files accessible, even though this usually means having two copies of the file, because the text version is in another format, usually Word in my case.
I'm not familiar with other OCR programs on Windows, but I would guess that at least some of them have a similar function, where image files in .pdf containing text can be converted to formats like .rtf or .doc which are more accessible.
I hope this helps!
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William [mailto:cwwong.pro@...]
Sent: vendredi 8 avril 2016 09:58
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with reading pdf

I have try both pdf reader dc and Adobe Acrobat 9 Pro both failed


Aravind R 於 8/4/2016 15:19 寫道:
I TOO HAD SAME PROBLEM WITH ADOBE READER DC SO I DOWNGRADED IT.
SO FRIENDS GUIDE US HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM

On 4/8/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
if you are shure that your pdf books is not Ocr and its usual
document which is changed to document, you can also try balabolka.
its free and can read many document formats.
you can download it from its original website.

www. cross-plus-a.com

thanks for asking and god bless you.

On 4/8/16, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hi,
I got a pdf file, when I open with Adobe pdf reader DC on my windows
7, it said it is blank or require OCR.
However, when I send the pdf to my Ipad via dropbox and ope the pdf
with dropbox, the screen reader there can read all those text
content, as if it is totally accessible.
I am not sure how to fix this issue. Cause I need to extract some of
the information from the pdf.....
Do I open it with alternative pdf reader? any recommendations? or
any other advice?
thanks
William
n





--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins
them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good
things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from
them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for]
those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the
light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Pete <emac00@...>
 

Hi
In options, display, advanced there is a check box to check Close message window/tab on move or delete and open messages in a new message window is also selected. You can open messages in an existing window as well, but I don't know how it will effect what you want to do try and see what happens.
Pete

On 4/8/2016 12:06 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Is there a way to get thunderbird to go back to the inbox after replying to a message instead of going back to the message document?



On 4/8/2016 7:50 AM, Pete wrote:

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.
On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger












Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Pete <emac00@...>
 

me neither, may be the publisher has a sale link. Are there more than 167 pages to this book? It looks like you can navigate page by page by putting page numbers in the edit box.

On 4/8/2016 11:43 AM, Stephen wrote:
But I can't find the link to buy the book.
At 12:08 AM 4/9/2016, you wrote:

It's a link to a preview of the book, it's only an image and being a preview I would say yes you have to buy the book.
Pete
On 4/7/2016 11:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or
can I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH
Thanks.






Re: question about turning pages in ADOBE READER DC using NVDA as my screen reader

Jacob Kruger
 

ctrl+pageUp and pageDown work, but, you will generally then need to use ctrl+home to jump back to top of next/previous page if you were at the end of the prior page, before then initiating reading again.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-08 7:41 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
It's been a long time since I used that product, but in the olden days,
it used to be control page down for next page and control page up for
previous page. I believe the edit menu also contained a go to page
option that you could use if there were a table of contents reverencing
chapter and page numbers to tell you where to go.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io
<lauriemehta@...
<mailto:lauriemehta@...>> wrote:

Hi,
I just saved a pdf from a website and want to read it but the keyboard
commands for turning pages do not work for me. I am working with
Windows 7 and reading the pdf with ADOBE READER DC. NVDA is my only
screen reader choice.

The text on the page reads but for some strange reason I cannot turn
pages or scroll to do continuous reading using only the keyboard. If
someone uses the mouse on my pc NVDA can read onward through pages,
but having somebody mouse through this lengthy document for me is not
a solution.
Is there something I'm missing in terms of using the keyboard and NVDA
to read through this pdf document? the arrow keys do not work as the
view menu says they should.

Thanks,
LM



Re: mixing application

Roger Stewart
 

Station Playlist is an excellent broadcaster program but the other person is really looking for a disco type D J program. I don't know anything about these types of programs.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 2:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
I know acquaintenances who uses Station Playlist Studio to broadcast their own radio station and they say it's accessible particularly with NVDA.
On 7 Apr 2016, at 20:06, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@...> wrote:

Hi guys

I like music and think of becoming a DJ.

My problem is that the well known application used by sighted guys is
screen reader inaccessible.

I am particularly talking about virtual DJ.

Does anyone know of this application and has ever used it with a screen reader?

I find it difficult to use with nvda and jaws.

Do you know of any application I can use that is doing nearly the same
thing as virtual DJ?

Come to my rescue.

Wally






NVDA And TripleTalk Synthesizer

gstoodley
 

I am a very beginning NVDA user with a TripleTalk USB speech synthesizer and the most recent version of NVDA.  NVDA keeps saying “bar” or “L” before each item in a list as I arrow through the list.  Is there a setting to stop these repetitions of characters that don’t seem to be present?
 


Re: mixing application

christopher hallsworth <challsworth2@...>
 

I know acquaintenances who uses Station Playlist Studio to broadcast their own radio station and they say it's accessible particularly with NVDA.

On 7 Apr 2016, at 20:06, Marisane Moruthanyana <marisanem@...> wrote:

Hi guys

I like music and think of becoming a DJ.

My problem is that the well known application used by sighted guys is
screen reader inaccessible.

I am particularly talking about virtual DJ.

Does anyone know of this application and has ever used it with a screen reader?

I find it difficult to use with nvda and jaws.

Do you know of any application I can use that is doing nearly the same
thing as virtual DJ?

Come to my rescue.

Wally





Re: MS Office 365

Dan Kerstetter
 

I have found it to be very useable. I generally only use Outlook 2016 and Word 2016. I've had some problems scrolling through my message list in Outlook; but other than that, it seems to work just fine. As far as I can see, any problems I've had are program related and not screen reader specific, as I have the same problems with other screen readers.

HTH
Da
N

-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos [mailto:gmjc341961@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:30 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Office 365

Hello All:
I asked the question to a fellow list member in private about how accessible MS Office 365 was/is with NVDA?
After having received a one line not very helpful answer to my question. I am now going to ask all members of the NVDA mailing list the same question of how accessible is Office 365 with NVDA?
I have decided to subscribe to Office 365 since at times the various Open Office variants seem not to always work correctly and crash far too many times for my liking!
I hope that other list members will be more generous with their comments/suggestions!
This list has always been known for having kind and very helpful members! One bad apple can at times spoil it for everyone else!
Thank You! In advance for all your good/kind suggestions!!!

--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

I have it set to delete any message more than 30 days old and that's where I want it. The option to delete on closing messages is not checked so that isn't it. Who knows, it may have been a one in a million fluke or hickup in the computer somewhere, but I'm not worrying about it anymore.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 12:18 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Roger in particular, check your local folders item under account settings. Move down the tree to disk storage. Tab until you get a group of radio buttons referring to deletion of messages. Use the up/down arrow keys to make sure that the 'don't delete any messages' item is selected then tab to the OK button and press enter to save the settings. This _might_ be incorrectly configured to something else--in which cases, message may be deleted upon close or upon some other factor.


On 4/8/2016 12:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'm not having problems with thunderbird either. It's working great for me.



On 4/8/2016 8:12 AM, n8mnx@... wrote:
I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger













Re: question about turning pages in ADOBE READER DC using NVDA as my screen reader

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

It's been a long time since I used that product, but in the olden days, it used to be control page down for next page and control page up for previous page.  I believe the edit menu also contained a go to page option that you could use if there were a table of contents reverencing chapter and page numbers to tell you where to go.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf


On Apr 8, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.io <lauriemehta@...> wrote:

Hi,
I just saved a pdf from a website and want to read it but the keyboard commands for turning pages do not work for me. I am working with Windows 7 and reading the pdf with ADOBE READER DC. NVDA is my only screen reader choice.

The text on the page reads but for some strange reason I cannot turn pages or scroll to do continuous reading using only the keyboard. If someone uses the mouse on my pc NVDA can read onward through pages, but having somebody mouse through this lengthy document for me is not a solution.
Is there something I'm missing in terms of using the keyboard and NVDA to read through this pdf document? the arrow keys do not work as the view menu says they should.

Thanks,
LM





Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Roger in particular, check your local folders item under account settings. Move down the tree to disk storage. Tab until you get a group of radio buttons referring to deletion of messages. Use the up/down arrow keys to make sure that the 'don't delete any messages' item is selected then tab to the OK button and press enter to save the settings. This _might_ be incorrectly configured to something else--in which cases, message may be deleted upon close or upon some other factor.

On 4/8/2016 12:04 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'm not having problems with thunderbird either. It's working great for me.



On 4/8/2016 8:12 AM, n8mnx@... wrote:
I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger











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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


question about turning pages in ADOBE READER DC using NVDA as my screen reader

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi,
I just saved a pdf from a website and want to read it but the keyboard commands for turning pages do not work for me. I am working with Windows 7 and reading the pdf with ADOBE READER DC. NVDA is my only screen reader choice.

The text on the page reads but for some strange reason I cannot turn pages or scroll to do continuous reading using only the keyboard. If someone uses the mouse on my pc NVDA can read onward through pages, but having somebody mouse through this lengthy document for me is not a solution.
Is there something I'm missing in terms of using the keyboard and NVDA to read through this pdf document? the arrow keys do not work as the view menu says they should.

Thanks,
LM


Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

My Thunderbird has always done this. You need to press F 8 to turn off the preview pane. This always gets in the way. Then when you close the message, you'll just be in the list of messages in the inbox.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 11:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Is there a way to get thunderbird to go back to the inbox after replying to a message instead of going back to the message document?



On 4/8/2016 7:50 AM, Pete wrote:

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.
On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger












Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Is there a way to get thunderbird to go back to the inbox after replying to a message instead of going back to the message document?

On 4/8/2016 7:50 AM, Pete wrote:

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.
On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger









Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm not having problems with thunderbird either. It's working great for me.

On 4/8/2016 8:12 AM, n8mnx@... wrote:
I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger









Re: trying to read a google book with NVDA and firefox but am not having much luck

Stephen
 

But I can't find the link to buy the book.

At 12:08 AM 4/9/2016, you wrote:

It's a link to a preview of the book, it's only an image and being a preview I would say yes you have to buy the book.
Pete
On 4/7/2016 11:57 PM, Stephen wrote:
Hello.
I am trying to read a google book, but am not having much luck.
Do I have to buy the book from google play before I can read it, or
can I read it for free?
Here is the link in case anyone else wants to give it a try.
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=hoPbDSDNLTQC&pg=PA167&lpg=PA167&dq=PROTECTION+SYSTEM+BY+MIKE+BROWN&source=bl&ots=Kem8k23AyL&sig=q6-LKfPb2uUwTQ9cXfbBQ7rKqBI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjkhaSW8PvLAhXJFpQKHfdND_0Q6AEIMTAH
Thanks.




Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

n8mnx@att.net
 

I also don't have the problem of thunderbird deleting messages either and I never have I have been using nvda and thunderbird for several years now.
Brian Sackrider

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger







Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Pete <emac00@...>
 

In Thunderbird I think there is a check box for delete message on move or close window.

On 4/8/2016 10:15 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger








On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger







Re: Serious bug found in Thunderbird

Roger Stewart
 

You are lucky! I've turned off the feature to get messages every so many minutes so the problem will never happen again. What happened is I hit the escape key to silence speech and I expected it would just close the message but what really happened is another message was automatically opened and when I closed that one, I found the message I had been reading was just gone. I consider this problem solved for now as I've shut off the cause of it. Guess it will be up to the Thunderbird folks to really sort it out.

Roger

On 4/8/2016 12:20 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Roger,

Using the latest Thunderbird, I do not have this experience. I have my Thunderbird set to receive messages every 5 minutes, and while I do get the pause in reading or cessation or reading when Thunderbird checks for new messages, nothing gets deleted.


On 4/7/2016 5:03 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I was just reading a long email message in Thunderbird when it received a new message. It had to announce this to me and disrupted the reading of the message I was reading. This is just annoying, but the real bug is that Thunderbird auto-deleted the message I was reading! It just went poof, and is permanently gone off my computer. Guess anyone using Thunderbird should immediately disable the auto checking for new messages while the program is running.

Roger




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