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Re: odd backspace issue when using windows 10 mail app

Ashley Wayne
 

Lol that’s amusing.  It’s ok though, it just makes me be a more proficient typist lol.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] odd backspace issue when using windows 10 mail app

 

Ashly,

 

Yes this is a bug.  Not sure why, but NVDA is the only screen reader that has this problem. HTH.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Wayne
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] odd backspace issue when using windows 10 mail app

 

Hello again all,

I am just curious if anyone else has experienced this; it is not a detrimental issue, just a bit inconvenient.  When I am typing an email in the mail app, pressing backspace NVDA doesn’t announce the character being deleted.  I don’t have this problem in other apps with edit fields, like firefox or notepad, backspace works fine there.  Anyway, thanks for any suggestions or thoughts.  I hope everyone has a good day/night.

Ashley

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


problem solved

Don H
 

So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email provider was saying Emails from the list were spam and blocking them. Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to manage with a screen reader so I had to get some sighted help from my son.

Thanks to all for the help.


Seeking Tips on Installing OneCore Voices for Use With NVDA Snapshots

David Goldfield
 

I'm using Windows 10 Pro and I know that I have some of the OneCore voices already installed. However, I'm trying to install some of the British voices. While I see them in the list of voices under speech settings in Windows I can't seem to get them to work and I'd love to know what needs to be done in order to activate them.


--
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Windows 10 Maps Question

Laughing Thunder
 

Hi,


In the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on help, it says "When using street side view and if "use keyboard" option is enabled, NVDA will announce street addresses as you use arrow keys to navigate the map." Where is the use keyboard option? I don't see it in the maps app or the Windows 10 App Essentials preferences. I can get into street side view, but no addresses are announced, so I can only conclude that this feature doesn't work as described.

Thoughts/ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Windows 10 version info:

Edition: Windows 10 Pro

Version: 1607

OS Build: 14393.1358


test

Don H
 

test


Vocalizer Expressive Query

Andrea Sherry
 

Noticed when downloading some of the English speaking voices that all Premium High packages were quite large except Alison US voice. This voice is only about 93 megs large.

When this addon is installed it does not appear in the voice of voices.

Have others found this problem? If so I will contact the makers and attempt to have to problem resolved.

Cheers

Andrea


Re: odd backspace issue when using windows 10 mail app

matthew dyer
 

Ashly,

 

Yes this is a bug.  Not sure why, but NVDA is the only screen reader that has this problem. HTH.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Wayne
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 12:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] odd backspace issue when using windows 10 mail app

 

Hello again all,

I am just curious if anyone else has experienced this; it is not a detrimental issue, just a bit inconvenient.  When I am typing an email in the mail app, pressing backspace NVDA doesn’t announce the character being deleted.  I don’t have this problem in other apps with edit fields, like firefox or notepad, backspace works fine there.  Anyway, thanks for any suggestions or thoughts.  I hope everyone has a good day/night.

Ashley

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: changed Email address

 

Yours have been making it.  This one has a date-time stamp of 4:56 PM EDT.  The immediately previous message from yours came in at 1:51 PM EDT.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


changed Email address

Don H
 

Went to the web page for the list and changed my Email address and haven't seen any posts to the list since.


Windows 7 shuts down when starting NVDA

Joe Lakey
 

Just installed NVDA this morning on my laptop running Windows 7 Pro SP1. After installation, my laptop shut down without warning. It started back up fine, but when I started NVDA, the laptop shut down again without any error or warning. When installing, I unchecked the 'start NVDA on Windows startup' setting. Also possibly related, this is a company laptop running Sophos security/auth software.

I didn't see a way to attach files, so the contents of the log files are below.

nvda.log
---------------------
INFO - __main__ (12:07:46):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (12:07:49):
Config dir: C:\Users\jhlakey\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (12:07:49):
Loading config: C:\Users\jhlakey\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
NVDA version 2017.2
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (12:07:52):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:07:54):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (12:07:54):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - braille.initialize (12:07:54):
Using liblouis version 3.0.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (12:07:54):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (12:07:54):
Braille input initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (12:07:54):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
INFO - core.main (12:07:56):
NVDA initialized
INFO - updateCheck.AutoUpdateChecker._started (12:07:56):
Performing automatic update check
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (12:08:12):
Base configuration saved
INFO - core.onEndSession (12:08:13):
Windows session ending
---------------------

nvda-old.log
---------------------
INFO - __main__ (10:29:19):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:29:21):
Config dir: C:\TEMP\nsx4065.tmp\app\userConfig
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:29:21):
Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
NVDA version 2017.2
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (10:29:22):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:29:22):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - braille.initialize (10:29:22):
Using liblouis version 3.0.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:29:22):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:29:22):
Braille input initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:29:23):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
INFO - core.main (10:29:25):
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (10:31:58):
Exiting
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (10:31:58):
Base configuration saved
INFO - __main__ (10:32:00):
NVDA exit
---------------------
 


Version 17.08 of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials released #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of the following add-on versions:

 

SPL 17.08 includes a host of changes, including ability to announce minutes and seconds left to the top of the hour, request notifications and other enhancements. WinTenApps 17.08 brings localization updates and allows you to hear results from Calculator right away, especially when performing unit and currency conversions.

 

Note: SPL add-on 17.08 is the last major version of the add-on. Future releases will include both major and minor changes.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


test from new Email

Don H
 

Changed Email address so making sure new one works. Don't want to miss all the great info that is posted on this list.


Re: changeing Email

Gene
 

Do you have a groups.io account so you can manage the account online?  I'd have to look at whether you can change the e-mail address of a group online but the first question is whether you have an account.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] changeing Email

Is there a way to change my Email address for this users list or do I
have to create a new account?



changeing Email

Don H
 

Is there a way to change my Email address for this users list or do I have to create a new account?


Re: OCR a pdf with NVDA's OCR AddOn?

 

Can one read any text that appear as images? On social media for instance?

On 7/28/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
If you have to do this a page at a time using NVDA's OCR facility then it
would be much easier to use Tracker Software's PDF-XChange Viewer (
https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads/discontinued ) software
to do it.  Once you've downloaded and installed it these are the
step-by-step instructions for performing OCR on the file (in English by
default, other languages are available, and also free):

*Dealing with PDF Files*

If you receive an image PDF file, here’s how you can do optical character
recognition (OCR) processing on it to get the text that JAWS or ZoomText can
read:

1.    Open the file using PDF eXchange Viewer.   PDF eXchange Viewer has the
same Open and Save commands under the File Menu that you’re used to in
MS-Word.  Use ALT+F, O to open a file, and ALT+F, S to save it.

2.    Once the file has been opened, hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to perform the OCR
process.  Once you do this a dialog will pop up that requires no input from
you other than hitting the OK key (which you can do by hitting ENTER, since
OK is the default response).

3.    A progress box will now appear showing the processing for the OCR.  If
the file is short, say under 10 pages, this will usually be done in a matter
of seconds.   If it’s large it will take longer.  If you’re using ZoomText
at the time slide over until you see the Cancel  button and there will be a
percentage indicator above it.  When the OCR finishes the progress box will
automatically close.

4.    Make sure to save the document so that the OCR text remains with it
permanently.

5.    You’re finished.

--
Brian  - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on
request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

*     * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* *  But
the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound truth.*

*           ~ * *Niels Bohr*


Re: Reading Code in Web Pages

Gene
 

If you are using no script you won't see the code.  If you are using an ad blocker, I doubt you will see the code.  If you have JAVA script support disabled, you won't see the code.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages

Fwiw, I can’t duplicate the reported behavior.  I’m running firefox 54.0.1 on windows 7 pro 64 bit.
 
George
 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages
 

Here’s and example: http://www.howdyhonda.com/blog/2017-honda-fit-vs-2017-honda-civic-hatchback/

 

I start reading from the top and after the link to a blog, I start hearing code.

 

Ralph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages

 

Ralph, can you give an example - a webpage (and where on it) I can reproduce this please?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Ralph Boersema <ralph@...> wrote:

I use Mozilla Firefox as my web browser. Fairly often I find that NVDA reads sections of unintelligible (to me) language, which sounds like html or other computer code to me. Is there any configuration I can use to avoid this?

Warmly,
Ralph





 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Reading Code in Web Pages

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Fwiw, I can’t duplicate the reported behavior.  I’m running firefox 54.0.1 on windows 7 pro 64 bit.
 
George
 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages
 

Here’s and example: http://www.howdyhonda.com/blog/2017-honda-fit-vs-2017-honda-civic-hatchback/

 

I start reading from the top and after the link to a blog, I start hearing code.

 

Ralph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages

 

Ralph, can you give an example - a webpage (and where on it) I can reproduce this please?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Ralph Boersema <ralph@...> wrote:

I use Mozilla Firefox as my web browser. Fairly often I find that NVDA reads sections of unintelligible (to me) language, which sounds like html or other computer code to me. Is there any configuration I can use to avoid this?

Warmly,
Ralph





 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Is there a way

 

Not only is it set to do this automatically, but you can't stop updates (unless you go to extreme lengths and use third-party tools).

All of the configuration related to Windows Update can be accessed via Settings, Update & Security, Windows Update Pane (which is the one opened to by default when you open the Update & Security Settings).  The two things you'll most likely want to tweak to suit your desires are accessed via the "Change active hours" and "Restart Options" links.  You may wish to look at the "Advanced Options" dialog as well.
--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: OCR a pdf with NVDA's OCR AddOn?

 

If you have to do this a page at a time using NVDA's OCR facility then it would be much easier to use Tracker Software's PDF-XChange Viewer software to do it.  Once you've downloaded and installed it these are the step-by-step instructions for performing OCR on the file (in English by default, other languages are available, and also free):

Dealing with PDF Files

If you receive an image PDF file, here’s how you can do optical character recognition (OCR) processing on it to get the text that JAWS or ZoomText can read:

1.     Open the file using PDF eXchange Viewer.   PDF eXchange Viewer has the same Open and Save commands under the File Menu that you’re used to in MS-Word.  Use ALT+F, O to open a file, and ALT+F, S to save it.

2.     Once the file has been opened, hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to perform the OCR process.  Once you do this a dialog will pop up that requires no input from you other than hitting the OK key (which you can do by hitting ENTER, since OK is the default response).

3.     A progress box will now appear showing the processing for the OCR.  If the file is short, say under 10 pages, this will usually be done in a matter of seconds.   If it’s large it will take longer.  If you’re using ZoomText at the time slide over until you see the Cancel  button and there will be a percentage indicator above it.  When the OCR finishes the progress box will automatically close.

4.     Make sure to save the document so that the OCR text remains with it permanently.

5.     You’re finished.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Re: Is there a way

Alexander Masic
 

By default windows 10 is set to update automatickly. So if you haven't turn that off, it should atumaticly update your computer.

press windows key, then type windows update and press enter. and you vill find how it is configurate   set there.

However in general you should not nead to think about it.

Den 2017-07-28 kl. 14:42, skrev Sakina:

Hello All,

I use N V D A and window ten.

Please can anyone give me step by step instructions as to how I can  check if my computer is set to automatically do the updates.

And if after checking,  if it is not on automatic updates,

How can I do it step by step. To automatic setting

 

I thank you all inadvance.

With many regards always

Sakina




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