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Re: Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

David Griffith
 

Replicator is working fine here on Windows 10 Creator’s Update.  I had not problem either with the install or execution and it seems to work just in the same way as it always has. It is a little odd that it is not working on your Windows 8. Could it be that your install version is possibly corrupted?

 

It might be worth re-downloading.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robin Frost
Sent: 29 July 2017 21:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

 

Hi,

Awww I'm sorry I thought perhaps that might fix it. Perhaps it's dead after

all though I'd read of others using it but perhaps I misunderstood. Good

luck finding a replacement.

Robin

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Matt Turner

Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:47 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

 

Hi, just tried that.

 

I keep getting this.

 

Could Not Load Settings

Error: 76 (Path not found)

 

 

On 7/29/2017 2:33 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

> Hi,

> Did you run as an administrator? Sometimes it makes things comply better.

> Just a thought.

> Robin

> -----Original Message----- From: Matt Turner

> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:13 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

> Hi folks.

> Subject says it all.

> It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8

> anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
Awww I'm sorry I thought perhaps that might fix it. Perhaps it's dead after all though I'd read of others using it but perhaps I misunderstood. Good luck finding a replacement.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Hi, just tried that.

I keep getting this.

Could Not Load Settings
Error: 76 (Path not found)


On 7/29/2017 2:33 PM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi,
Did you run as an administrator? Sometimes it makes things comply better. Just a thought.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8
anymore.







Re: Turning on NVDA when Signing in as a Different User

Chris Mullins
 

To get NVDA to speak on the log-in screen, you need to have a user account
with administrator priviliges then open the the NVDA menu with NVDA+n, press
p for preferences, then g for General. Tab down to 'Use NVDA on log-in
screen'. And check it. Each user has it's own profile, ensure
'automatically start NVDA when I long-on to Windows' is also checked for
each user account you use. This will ensure NVDA will always be available.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lee
Jones
Sent: 29 July 2017 19:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Turning on NVDA when Signing in as a Different User

Dear List, this is probably a stupid question. If I have NVDA installed on
a machine and set to start after login with that user. If i then sign out
and sign in as a different user how do I get NVDA going within that user.
Does the control alt n hot key work.

Many Thanks, Lee


Re: Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Matt Turner
 

Hi, just tried that.

I keep getting this.

Could Not Load Settings
Error: 76 (Path not found)

On 7/29/2017 2:33 PM, Robin Frost wrote:
Hi,
Did you run as an administrator? Sometimes it makes things comply better. Just a thought.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8
anymore.






Re: Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Robin Frost
 

Hi,
Did you run as an administrator? Sometimes it makes things comply better. Just a thought.
Robin

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Turner
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8
anymore.


Turning on NVDA when Signing in as a Different User

Lee Jones
 

Dear List, this is probably a stupid question. If I have NVDA installed on a machine and set to start after login with that user. If i then sign out and sign in as a different user how do I get NVDA going within that user. Does the control alt n hot key work.

Many Thanks, Lee


Something like Karen's Replicator for windows 8?

Matt Turner
 

Hi folks.

Subject says it all.

It was a really good program, but it doesn't seem to work in windows 8 anymore.


Re: problem solved

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's true. I check the spam folder at least once a month.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem solved

Unfortunately it's not a one time thing, in other words one has to continue doing that periodically. I recommend at least once a month.

Laz

On 7/29/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I had to do that recently. Some messages for the music list I'm on
were going to the spam folder so I went to the gmail site and checked
the messages that it said were spam. Then I hit the "not spm" button
and the messages got moved to the correct folder.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Laz
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem solved

This happens a lot more than most people realize and leads to all
sorts of unnecessary test messages. One needs to take a look at their
spam folder at least once a month to see what one has missed because
of the stupid spam filters in use these days and mark those messages as not spam.

Laz

On 7/28/17, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email
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Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to
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Re: problem solved

Laz
 

Unfortunately it's not a one time thing, in other words one has to
continue doing that periodically. I recommend at least once a month.

Laz

On 7/29/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I had to do that recently. Some messages for the music list I'm on were
going to the spam folder so I went to the gmail site and checked the
messages that it said were spam. Then I hit the "not spm" button and the
messages got moved to the correct folder.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem solved

This happens a lot more than most people realize and leads to all sorts of
unnecessary test messages. One needs to take a look at their spam folder at
least once a month to see what one has missed because of the stupid spam
filters in use these days and mark those messages as not spam.

Laz

On 7/28/17, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email
provider was saying Emails from the list were spam and blocking them.
Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to
manage with a screen reader so I had to get some sighted help from my
son.

Thanks to all for the help.






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Re: problem solved

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I had to do that recently. Some messages for the music list I'm on were going to the spam folder so I went to the gmail site and checked the messages that it said were spam. Then I hit the "not spm" button and the messages got moved to the correct folder.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem solved

This happens a lot more than most people realize and leads to all sorts of unnecessary test messages. One needs to take a look at their spam folder at least once a month to see what one has missed because of the stupid spam filters in use these days and mark those messages as not spam.

Laz

On 7/28/17, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email
provider was saying Emails from the list were spam and blocking them.
Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to
manage with a screen reader so I had to get some sighted help from my son.

Thanks to all for the help.






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Re: Document Scanner

 

What are your exact needs and what hardware are you using to scan with?

A great many multi-function machines with document feeders come with their own scanning software that interfaces with NVDA quite well.

More detail is necessary.
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Re: Document Scanner

Albert Ruel
 

DocuScan by Serotek 

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2017, at 4:12 AM, Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> wrote:

Need program that works well with NVDA - not freeware.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea


Re: Problem with Edge

Chris
 

You need to create a user account with admin priviliges

Not the actual built in administrator account

 

They should be another account already created when windows was first installed anyway with admin priviliges

Try that account first

 

Otherwise create a new account with admin priviliges and log into that one

 

 

 

From: Lee Jones
Sent: 29 July 2017 13:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with Edge

 

Dear List, I want to use NVDA with edge on windows ten home but it just keeps telling me that it can’t open the app. I have read online that you can’t access edge from a built in administrator account. It won’t let me create another account to sign in with.  I think the only way to do it is to edit the registry. This is a daunting prospect.  Could some kind soul explain how you edit the registery with NVDA so that edge will open.

 

Many Thanks, Lee     

 

 


Re: problem solved

Laz
 

This happens a lot more than most people realize and leads to all
sorts of unnecessary test messages. One needs to take a look at their
spam folder at least once a month to see what one has missed because
of the stupid spam filters in use these days and mark those messages
as not spam.

Laz

On 7/28/17, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
So with some help from list members I figured out that my new Email
provider was saying Emails from the list were spam and blocking them.
Of course the web page to resolve the issue is real difficult to manage
with a screen reader so I had to get some sighted help from my son.

Thanks to all for the help.





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Re: Problem with Edge

John Hedges
 

This is not an MVDA problem. The Administrator

Account is limited on 10. Just create a Microsoft Account  set it to administrator, or a local account with admin priviledges.


Problem with Edge

Lee Jones
 

Dear List, I want to use NVDA with edge on windows ten home but it just keeps telling me that it can’t open the app. I have read online that you can’t access edge from a built in administrator account. It won’t let me create another account to sign in with. I think the only way to do it is to edit the registry. This is a daunting prospect. Could some kind soul explain how you edit the registery with NVDA so that edge will open.

Many Thanks, Lee


Document Scanner

Andrea Sherry
 

Need program that works well with NVDA - not freeware.

Any suggestions please.

Andrea


Re: Footnotes in Word Documents

Quentin Christensen
 

Which version of Word are you using?  In recent versions of Word, it's alt+s then H, and you can arrow through or press control+down arrow to jump from one footnote to the next.  You can get back by pressing the applications key and then G for 'Go to footnotes".

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 4:25 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin and all.
could you please how do you navigate between footnotes in microsoft word?
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 7/28/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> I just had a look at the footnotes issue, and I found with the document in
> Web view or draft, where the footnotes are displayed in a separate pane at
> the bottom of the window, this sluggishness is evident.  If the view mode
> is changed to Print (alt+w, then p), the sluggishness seems to go away.
>
> There is an open issue for this, (thanks Derek) and I just added a bit more
> info to it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6902  Feel free to
> subscribe if you are interested.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Ralph Boersema <ralph@...> wrote:
>
>> Dear James and Antony,
>>
>>
>>
>> You can contact me at ralph.boersema@..., so that I can send the
>> file to you off the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
>> *James
>> AUSTIN
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:02 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Footnotes in Word Documents
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Ralph
>>
>> Thank you for this. I shall have a look tomorrow. Hope this is okay. I
>> have an early start tomorrow, but will look at it on my return. I am not
>> a
>> dev or an expert, but am very intrigued. Hopefully we can work this out
>> together.27/07/2017 21:19, Ralph Boersema wrote:
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> James
>>
>> > Dear James, > > I have attached a document. The problem seems to relate
>> to the length > of a document and the location of the footnote within
>> longer > documents. > > Thank you! Ralph > > -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> <nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of James AUSTIN Sent: > Thursday, July
>> 27, 2017 10:39 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: > [nvda] Footnotes
>> in Word Documents > > Hi Ralph > > I have just performed a very quick
>> test.
>> NVDA seems to read the two > footnotes I have created without a delay.
>> They
>> were not long, nor did > they spread across pages. I could create
>> something, but would you be > willing to share a copy of your document
>> with
>> me please? Perhaps we > can work out together what is going on? > >
>> Thanks
>> > > James > > > On 27/07/2017 15:32, Ralph Boersema wrote: >> Is this
>> > > only
>> my problem or do others have it too? I ask because no >> one has
>> commented.
>> >> >> Ralph >> >> -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>
>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of Ralph
>> Boersema Sent: >> Wednesday, July 26, 2017 8:35 AM To:
>> nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: >> [nvda] Footnotes in Word Documents >> >> Dear Friends, >> >>
>> NVDA navigates footnotes in MSWord documents with distressingly >> long
>> delays. Is there any cure for this? >> >> Warmly, Ralph >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> > > > > > >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Windows 7 shuts down when starting NVDA

Brian's Mail list account
 

It could be that it restarts to remove files, but I've yet to find an inti virus that is so anti user that it does not tell the user what its doing and why.

Many computers for companies simply do not allow any installation except by the admins through an agreed system, but as I said, normally big warnings come up about his if you try, not a restart of the machine after all if it was a malware program its too late by then!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 7 shuts down when starting NVDA


Hmmm well firstly is nvda being thought as a virus.

Failing that are you sure you have access ie has nvda been allowed the right permitions, if its doing this on your own laptop, I'd think something was screwing about.

I had this on a couple desktops.

In one case the graphis card was mangled and needed replacing.

On the other, there was a faulty fan.

In both cases the shop we took it to did a reformat after replacing the various hardware cards and such which fixed the problem.

Something is clearly conflicting.

However since this a company unit and not your own, while a reformat will fix it and make it work its not your problem.

Its your it guy's issue thats what they are payed for ask your admin and see what they say it may be they need to do something themselves.




On 29/07/2017 5:44 a.m., Joe Lakey wrote:
Just installed NVDA this morning on my laptop running Windows 7 Pro SP1. After installation, my laptop shut down without warning. It started back up fine, but when I started NVDA, the laptop shut down again without any error or warning. When installing, I unchecked the 'start NVDA on Windows startup' setting. Also possibly related, this is a company laptop running Sophos security/auth software.

I didn't see a way to attach files, so the contents of the log files are below.

nvda.log
---------------------
INFO - __main__ (12:07:46):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (12:07:49):
Config dir: C:\Users\jhlakey\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (12:07:49):
Loading config: C:\Users\jhlakey\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
NVDA version 2017.2
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (12:07:50):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (12:07:52):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (12:07:54):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (12:07:54):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - braille.initialize (12:07:54):
Using liblouis version 3.0.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (12:07:54):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (12:07:54):
Braille input initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (12:07:54):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
INFO - core.main (12:07:56):
NVDA initialized
INFO - updateCheck.AutoUpdateChecker._started (12:07:56):
Performing automatic update check
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (12:08:12):
Base configuration saved
INFO - core.onEndSession (12:08:13):
Windows session ending
---------------------

nvda-old.log
---------------------
INFO - __main__ (10:29:19):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:29:21):
Config dir: C:\TEMP\nsx4065.tmp\app\userConfig
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:29:21):
Loading config: .\userConfig\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
NVDA version 2017.2
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using Windows version 6.1.7601 service pack 1 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016, 20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (10:29:22):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:29:22):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (10:29:22):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - braille.initialize (10:29:22):
Using liblouis version 3.0.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:29:22):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:29:22):
Braille input initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:29:23):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation
INFO - core.main (10:29:25):
NVDA initialized
INFO - core.main (10:31:58):
Exiting
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (10:31:58):
Base configuration saved
INFO - __main__ (10:32:00):
NVDA exit
---------------------


Re: Reading Code in Web Pages

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To be honest my annoyance with ads is that they seem not to abide by the accessibility rules site writers do, negating their work.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages


Actually noscript does help in firefox you can get round some sites but yeah adds are here to stay.

I don't mind adds, I mean when I watch tv, youtube streams, even listen to events on radio there are adds.

In windows you can turn a lot of that off, but windows and a lot of ms stuff are services so adds and extra news and apps are the norm.

So adds don't worry me.

The issue is that net adds do not have the same laws as standard postals, ie you don't usually get adds to buy a girl or the next bigger penis on your postal mail and you never get ransom notes and or scams without it getting caught.

If you get malware and spyware in adds well heck 99.9% of the time at least when this stuff went on in 1995-2005 that wasn't a problem tghe problem is that anyone can be anyone and then there is the fact that computer and net adds are notorious for ransomware, malware and viruses, I don't even run on the joke lists anymore as I sued to for fear of them.

Back in 1996 I pulled some music off what was then mp3.com, and got subscribed to their news and lots of popups in which I had to rate their stuff at the end of it, I got a popup thanking me and asking for my address so I could get a cd of my interests in music, Shortly after that all popups went away.

The stuff on my system went away and so did the site, never the less I got a cd not full of what I ordered but a bunch of weird music but I did get one, still have it.

If I ever got into that sort of thing now I'd run a mile or if I was to late I would have to take the computer to get fixed.

Sadly a lot of the lagit adds died out with free internet revolution back in 2000

On that note has anyone tried the barebones kaspersky free, its nothing on the end of payed but aparently is for home users, has web protection, email, download protection, and a few basics for the home user.

Its not the business thing but if you don't handle messages as such it may be ok.



On 28/07/2017 7:12 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
If it is ads, then adblockers work very well, but some sites won't let you in if they spot you have on. The stupid bit is that a site well designed and accessible without ads, becomes almost impossible with them, mainly due to the problem that the ad makers seem not to take accessibility seriously and shove out rogh and ready graphic rich garbage that we cannot read. I always say that our money shoul be as good as anyone elses, and if they really want to sell through advertising then the least they could do is make them benign as far as screenreaders are concerned.
OK I'll get off my soapbox now. Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages


Facebook will do this to, a lot of sites are doing this for cash its a battleground from what we type to what we read now has adds.

Thats not always a bad thing.

I use noscript and disable the google analitics site which is how google tracks users and disable any add related sites but I never get all of them.




On 28/07/2017 6:16 p.m., nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
i read somewhere that google wants to add advertisement material to
the website and we should pay to be comfortable from them or accept
them.
did someone hear this message or did you read it in websites?
but i recommend you to disable javascript.

On 7/28/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I'll add that there is a good deal of code on the page at that place and a
good deal of it isn't a link or links. But why a screen-reader sees it is
something those who know a lot more about web page design may wish to
comment on. It looks to me as though its JAVA script.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 9:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages


I discussed your question first and I gave related information.

I don't know what browser you are using and it may be that different
browsers display the code differently. If links have no text and no alt
text, then code is often read because it's the only available thing to read.
You may not be able to tell what the code means. But using logic and
inference, we know that these are links to advertising.
Here is the item immediately above the first code link and the code link
immediately below the item.
Menu
https://www.google.com/ads/conversion/979298651/?random=1738029041&cv=8&fst=*&num=1&fmt=2&label=IHUU
The first part of the link says google.com, which is the source of the
material and after that is the word ad. In links that show code, there are
no spaces. You have probably heard for a long time about Google ads. Here
are some.
You can try, if you want to look at the code and try to figure out what the
ads are for but since they are ads, I would imagine you would want to skip
them.


Sometimes, links on a site that read as code are actually part of the site.
But there is a lot of repetition on web sites and most of the time, when I
see such links, there are links farther down the page that lead to the same
place and that have text. If you want to make sure and you can't figure out
where a link goes, you can follow the link and then come back to the page
you were on. If you do that you will know were the link leads and you will
often find, farther down the page, that a link with understandable text says
visited because it leads to the same place.

If I see code links and I'm not sure where they lead, if I don't see
something I expect to be a link on the page or if I think I may be missing
material, I may follow such links. Very often, just looking through the
page tells me that I can see everything I want and if I see no reason to
follow such links, I don't bother.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Ralph Boersema
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages


Here’s and example:
http://www.howdyhonda.com/blog/2017-honda-fit-vs-2017-honda-civic-hatchback/



I start reading from the top and after the link to a blog, I start hearing
code.



Ralph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Code in Web Pages



Ralph, can you give an example - a webpage (and where on it) I can reproduce
this please?



Regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Ralph Boersema <ralph@...> wrote:

I use Mozilla Firefox as my web browser. Fairly often I find that NVDA
reads sections of unintelligible (to me) language, which sounds like html or
other computer code to me. Is there any configuration I can use to avoid
this?

Warmly,
Ralph











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